HokeyReligions Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale sure you can HOKEY. or at least you can rent self-esteem and self-confidence. People do it every frikking day. Let's see.... - boob jobs - other cosmetic surgery - jewelry - a large house - high powered career - nice cars - good looking spouse or SO - wearing nice clothes, etc etc etc see HOKEY, many people get ssome self esteem and confidence from material items or external things. and there is nothing wrong with that at all. and many of these things to boost one's percieved self- worth. there is no denying it especially in our consumer oriented society that bases much self worth on material possessions. That's BS. You said it yourself: PERCEIVED Self-worth. It's not real. I think its shallow and easily spotted and I stayed away from people like that because its all going to crumble at some point and I wouldn't want to be the one to clean up the mess, or deal with the insecurities and low self-esteem that shows up alone in the dark--no matter how much money one has or has spent on themself. There is a might big gape between Ego and Self-Confidence and money is a pretty flimsy bridge. Link to post Share on other sites
SexKitten Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale well SEXKITTEN, if JOEL did not change a thing about himself both you and I know he'd have better luck if he was driveing a nice car vs. a krappy car. this is an asian thing 1. yeah, it might gain a girl's interest. then she'd get to know him. 2. oh. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Really??? I'd like to know where they're all at then......... Just joking....I get compliments and women wanting rides all the time.......usually I'll tell them that seat is reserved unless it's a buddy's gf or wife and they know about it. But I agree with Joel. I get a heckuva lot more attention from good looking women in my kit cars than in any other. It's loads of fun telling even the super model types to get lost when they want a ride. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by Moose But I agree with Joel. I get a heckuva lot more attention from good looking women in my kit cars than in any other. It's loads of fun telling even the super model types to get lost when they want a ride. yaah MOOSE, i had a '99 red vette convertible. man the chicks loved that car! i think they used to get wet just hearing the exhaust! Link to post Share on other sites
L_and_P21 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 yeah ive realized joel doesnt reply after he posts.... do you know why? cause it seems that all of you have just destroyed what he had left of his self esteem (probly). how do you expect him to pick him self up and carry on when you just kick him while hes on the ground? its true, some girls like guys for their car, money or even how they look. ive had my friend tell me i need to get out of tshirts, put on cologne, do my hair and shave everyday. well if i wanted to get a girl that was shallow i would do it. to me i would rather wait 20 or 30 years for the right one then sit back with one thats just using me to get the things she wants. ive thaught about getting a nice car though. joel, if you want an opinion from someone in the same boat... dont worry about it. ive done that alot and it got me nowhere. now i just dont care if a girl doesnt like me for what i drive or how i dress or if i have money. the ones you want are the ones that like you for your personality. hard to come by? maybe... but they are well worth it. or lets put it another way. your single, you can spend all of your money on you. go out and buy a new computer, tv, or stereo for 1000$, expand that model airplane collection, hell just go buy some legos. me im looking at an 8000$ computer when i have a career ill worry about girls, yes i still want one now but its not the #1 priority on my list its about #20. but if you want a girl now just go to a place that fits your personality and be yourself. youre an awesome guy and i believe in you and have faith that you will get the girl you want Link to post Share on other sites
tokyo Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by L_and_P21 yeah ive realized joel doesnt reply after he posts.... do you know why? cause it seems that all of you have just destroyed what he had left of his self esteem (probly). how do you expect him to pick him self up and carry on when you just kick him while hes on the ground? its true, some girls like guys for their car, money or even how they look. ive had my friend tell me i need to get out of tshirts, put on cologne, do my hair and shave everyday. well if i wanted to get a girl that was shallow i would do it. to me i would rather wait 20 or 30 years for the right one then sit back with one thats just using me to get the things she wants. ive thaught about getting a nice car though. People here have been trying to help him. His repeated questions that only revolve around the same things is what makes people wonder if he's asking in order to get advice and help or if it's just asking for asking's sake. I think people tell you to dress a bit better, to smell a bit better, to get a better haircut and shave, because all the girls that you find attractive are wearing nice dresses, smell incredibly good, have this nice soft hair, but only on their head, because they weed and kill out any ugly looking hair on their other body parts in order to have smooth silky soft skin that men like so much. Maybe that's why people tell you to do all these superficial things. You guys, if you have standards, please let the girls have standards as well and stop calling them stuck up superficial b*tches. I kind of doubt that you would date girls who had the same attitude as you had. Link to post Share on other sites
SexKitten Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by Moose Really??? I'd like to know where they're all at then......... Just joking....I get compliments and women wanting rides all the time.......usually I'll tell them that seat is reserved unless it's a buddy's gf or wife and they know about it. But I agree with Joel. I get a heckuva lot more attention from good looking women in my kit cars than in any other. It's loads of fun telling even the super model types to get lost when they want a ride. and girls get over this kind of guy just as quickly as they would get over joel. Link to post Share on other sites
L_and_P21 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 i have standard but its all on personality. i have wants that i would like in a girl but nothing is more important than personality. i take a shower everyday and put on deorderant. for me thats enough. personally i would much rather have a girl that didnt wear perfume. everyone should have standards but i think that some people take it too far. Link to post Share on other sites
tokyo Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I was just trying to point out the double standard that I see so often. Guys like Joel who want to be loved for their personality, but run after the high maintenance gals and when they get turned down complain about the mean women. Sorry, I don't get it.... I can assure you that people here have interest in helping Joel. I also can point out to numerous threads that he started. If he was really intimidated by us he'd probably stopped posting a long while ago. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by SexKitten and girls get over this kind of guy just as quickly as they would get over joel. And guys like me don't allow women to use there, "lil tricks", just to get into my car either. In fact, I get off on turning them down while letting them know whole heartedly why they don't measure up. Link to post Share on other sites
SexKitten Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by Moose And guys like me don't allow women to use there, "lil tricks", just to get into my car either. In fact, I get off on turning them down while letting them know whole heartedly why they don't measure up. ew. Link to post Share on other sites
ses623 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 In my opinion, i think a lot of women like nice cars/trucks. But that doesnt necessiarly mean that they date a guy for the car they drive. If they do then they are worthless to me. But i have to say from personal experience that i get more attention from the ladies when im in my truck pushin in the clutch and revving it a few times, rather than taking an old beat up stationwagon and showin off up at the mall or something. I have had many girls come up to me and ask for a ride. I remember dating one girl in all those instances, we really had some things in common though, country music, party's, all different kind of sports, things like that. I think i dated her for about a month or so. I think it seems to be something with younger people like teenagers like me, rather than people in their late 20's and early 30's. Just my .02. Link to post Share on other sites
L_and_P21 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 yeah i have to agree about the double standard, its really dumb, kinda like i can date other people but you cant sorta thing. yeah puchin in the clutch on my truck (frontier) has got the girls to look at me and then having them floor it running a red light when in actuality it was just the turn arrow that changed. never had anyone come up to me for a ride. i think i would have to give them one just cause of my personality of being nice. now if i let rude self out i would say yes and then when the started opening the door i would take off, or i would probly find something wrong with the girl(s) and make an excuse. niceness always prevails. guys with big trucks are trying to balance out the lack of something and ricers are just exagerating by about a million times. stock is a good way to go yeah alot of teens and early 20 year olds have ricers, but if you notice the older they are the nicer the car is. how many 22 year olds do you see driving the z8's or the lambos or lotus's. late 20's have the s4's, x8s, 350z. 30s and 40s have the s6's, s8's, maximas, m3's and 50s and above have the nice nice cars, you know the ones im talkin about. why do girls like nice cars? what do they get out of it? all i see is just a ride... is it more than that? will a girl please explain Link to post Share on other sites
SexKitten Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by L_and_P21 yeah alot of teens and early 20 year olds have ricers, but if you notice the older they are the nicer the car is. how many 22 year olds do you see driving the z8's or the lambos or lotus's. late 20's have the s4's, x8s, 350z. 30s and 40s have the s6's, s8's, maximas, m3's and 50s and above have the nice nice cars, you know the ones im talkin about. why do girls like nice cars? what do they get out of it? all i see is just a ride... is it more than that? will a girl please explain if i saw you do that in your truck i would laugh at you hysterically. but where i come from, we make fun of those tools, the ones that peel out and rev their engines. what dorks. how you do know what age people have what cars? you're not right about me, i can tell you that. and girls like nice cars for the same reason we like good-looking guys, confident guys, guys who are employed or otherwise self-sufficient. most girls don't say " i will not date that guy because i don't like his car." but if he has a nice one, it might help. who doesn't like nice cars? why does the guy with a nice car pick that car? why does a girl? who effing cares? it's such a stupid question. am i the only one thinking along the lines of "duh"? Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by SexKitten and girls like nice cars for the same reason we like good-looking guys, confident guys, guys who are employed or otherwise self-sufficient. most girls don't say " i will not date that guy because i don't like his car." but if he has a nice one, it might help. who doesn't like nice cars? why does the guy with a nice car pick that car? why does a girl? who effing cares? yes SEXY-KITTEN, i must agree. Women don't like a man to drive a beat up clunker. But I think a dude who has a normal average regular car but is well rounded in all other areas would beat out a dude with a BMW who is not well rounded. Actually, for a man, the most impt thing is knowing how to deal with women, not his ride. BUT, a man knows how to deal with women AND is well-rounded AND has a nice ride then he will be unstoppable!!! Link to post Share on other sites
SexKitten Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale yes SEXY-KITTEN, i must agree. Women don't like a man to drive a beat up clunker. But I think a dude who has a normal average regular car but is well rounded in all other areas would beat out a dude with a BMW who is not well rounded. Actually, for a man, the most impt thing is knowing how to deal with women, not his ride. BUT, a man knows how to deal with women AND is well-rounded AND has a nice ride then he will be unstoppable!!! this is true. i've found that some of the biggest tools i've met were younger somewhat successful men who ran out and bought a bmw and don't know how to eloquently display their "wealth." this guy will be ignored completely, or someone will go out of their way to make sure he knows that no one is impressed--probably me. pride is great, necessary even, but there is something to be said for modesty in reference to belongings. it's a huge turn-off to hear someone say "hey baby, wanna go for in a ride in my mercedes, i live in a mansion." it's like, total cheese. and i just want to scream "i can buy and sell you, you massive tool!!!" but i'm not that type to flaunt what i do have, and so i don't. i'm more subtle. but i do think it!!! and only if it's deserved. i just think it's interesting, these cars aren't even that expensive, and if you know what you're doing, almost anyone could own one. and a bmw? please. they look like honda civics to me...well, except that big one, i like the big one...they have computer problems though... but really, it's not that big of a deal. people are stupid. it's like saying that all guys only want girls with big boobs. for the most part it does seem like big boobs might help, but they aren't necessary. i see lots of good-looking guys with less-than-endowed girls. Link to post Share on other sites
melina Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 moose: what kind of a car is this? Reminds me of David Hasselhoff's knight rider "kid" Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I concede that most women would like to be swished around in style and not in some clanking jalopy. Fundamentally, this issue is much more complex on the face of it. Calling girls "shallow" just doesn't cut it. It boils down to the guy's self-esteem, and the confidence to approach a girl. Many guys lack self-esteem, but in buying a spiffy car they unconsciously feel more acceptable and desirable to women, thus they approach women more readily, and thus get the girl more readily. It's not that the girl is after the ride, it's just that the girl is flattered by the guy and often the guy gets lucky. Very simple. When it comes down to it, women are still human and want to be appreciated. A guy with the confidence to approach her and try his luck already has half the battle won. The sad thing is, which is evident from Joel's post, and it's a malady of society, is that guys automatically equate the ownership of the car with their increased desirability to women, and conversely, lack of said car with decreased desirability, which leads to lower self-esteem, and so proceedeth the evil cycle. But that's only what it looks like on the surface. Women are just like men, they also like nice things, and nice cars on high on the list. So if a woman checks you out while you're driving your spiffy convertible, suck that ego down, boy. She might be checking out the chrome and not the grunt behind the wheel. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by SexKitten i see lots of good-looking guys with less-than-endowed girls. I've seen good looking dudes with butt-ugly women. And vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites
SexKitten Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by melina moose: what kind of a car is this? Reminds me of David Hasselhoff's knight rider "kid" i can't speak for moose, but i know it's just some kit car. Link to post Share on other sites
SexKitten Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale I've seen good looking dudes with butt-ugly women. And vice versa. exactly...and even though it's not nice, you think to yourself "what the hell's he doing with her?" but she must be doing something right, you know? stranger things have happened. and are you calling me butt-ugly? Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by SexKitten i can't speak for moose, but i know it's just some kit car. Right SEXKITTEN. David Hasselhoff's car was called "Kitt" And why is David Hasselhoff so big in Germany, anyways??? Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by melina moose: what kind of a car is this? Reminds me of David Hasselhoff's knight rider "kid" Sex Kitten is right on. i can't speak for moose, but i know it's just some kit car. I take those little Pontiac Fieros, strip them down, sometimes I'll drop a V8 in them then put them back together using Fiberglass panels that look a lot like lambo's. It's more of a hobby for me to take something so beat up and build something attractive out of it. I'm working on a lil' 85 four cyclinder right now, (have pics), that I'll probably keep for me this time. Everyone that I built have sold before I was even finished with it. The least amount I sold one for was a tad under 30k. I invest about 10k and 2 years in each one so it's also profitable. They do turn heads, and I get my confidence from people who admire the work, not neccessarily the means of how I obtained it. Most gorgeous women can't, or don't appreciate that. Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale Right SEXKITTEN. David Hasselhoff's car was called "Kitt" Acronym for "Knight Industries Two Thousand", I believe. And why is David Hasselhoff so big in Germany, anyways??? Because he finds German women exciting? Actually, the story is that his crappy song seemed an appropriate theme song for when the Berlin wall came down. Enough geekery - I'm going back to giving ignorant and uninformed advice now. Link to post Share on other sites
RecordProducer Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 We're talking about reality here, not how things should be. Look around and you'll see that the rich and famous, young and handsome guys pick up drop gorgeous models, singers, and actresses. You are less likely to see an average looking guy, with a crappy car and job with a beautiful girl. It's not impossible, but he should have some extra qualities such as be super sexy, charming, funny, intelligent, seductive... and extremely lucky! Link to post Share on other sites
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