Can you move on while still having some hope w/ an Ex?

[Jimmyjackson]

I believe that you probably don't get over an ex you're still missing 100% until you've met someone else. By meeting someone else you'll be so emotionally invested in this new person you probably would push your ex out of your mind. Think back to when you first got with your ex, it was intense, butterflies, passion, exciting etc...you would gain all of these things with a new person, thus eliminating the old flame from your mind. Just my opinion.

 

As long as you're not fresh out of a relationship and you are generally in a happy place most of the time and can get on with your day to day life I'd say you should be fine.

[Bo34]

I believe that you probably don't get over an ex you're still missing 100% until you've met someone else. By meeting someone else you'll be so emotionally invested in this new person you probably would push your ex out of your mind. Think back to when you first got with your ex, it was intense, butterflies, passion, exciting etc...you would gain all of these things with a new person, thus eliminating the old flame from your mind. Just my opinion.

 

As long as you're not fresh out of a relationship and you are generally in a happy place most of the time and can get on with your day to day life I'd say you should be fine.

 

^^^ EXACTLY!!! You said it perfectly!

[Bo34]

Thats pretty grim, nothing to look forward to. I agree with others that you need to find happiness and not relying on others for it.

 

And I am not saying to sit at home crying, I'm not saying to wait years. But your breakup was less than 2 months ago, right? I'm not sure why you even asked as you have made up your mind. Good luck!

 

Thank you. I think you're misinterpreting a lot of what I have to say. Of course, finding happiness in your own self if a given. I don't think I need to say that, but to clarify things, I'll say it. I am happy with myself. But as with anything, I also have goals in life too, and I don't want to be a bachelor forever. I'm happy, but my goal is to one day find someone I truly love and loves me, get married and settle down with.

[Liono84]

You shouldn't go dating while longing for the ex.is not fair on the new girl if things start to progress and you're not really available

 

I completely disagree. If we wait until we're fully healed before we start dating then it can take forever. It's not the smart way to go about it. Furthermore, the more you wait and tell yourself you're not going to date until you're fully healed, the longer you will still have lingering thoughts of your ex. It's only in dating, and putting yourself in the scene, that we truly move on from our ex's.

 

From my personal experience, I have always had lingering feelings in some way, shape or form when I've been dumped for my ex. Although time diminishes those feelings, they have still been there in the bottom of my heart. Only in dating and finding a new partner that I built new feelings for, have I been finally able to let go.

 

Letting go is a process. Like other people have said, it's not an on and off switch and dating others even while you still have feelings for your recent ex is part of healing.

[guest569]

Thank you. I think you're misinterpreting a lot of what I have to say. Of course, finding happiness in your own self if a given. I don't think I need to say that, but to clarify things, I'll say it. I am happy with myself. But as with anything, I also have goals in life too, and I don't want to be a bachelor forever. I'm happy, but my goal is to one day find someone I truly love and loves me, get married and settle down with.

 

OK fair enough and hope it all goes well. Perhaps I have exaggerated what you said about the 'glimmer' of hope.

 

I completely disagree. If we wait until we're fully healed before we start dating then it can take forever. It's not the smart way to go about it. Furthermore, the more you wait and tell yourself you're not going to date until you're fully healed, the longer you will still have lingering thoughts of your ex. It's only in dating, and putting yourself in the scene, that we truly move on from our ex's.

 

I am not saying that someone should wait until they are 100% healed. I just don't think it is very smart or considerate to date others if you are hopeful that you are going to hear from the ex and drop the new girl at the drop of a hat.

[Jaded15]

To tell you the truth, that is my worst fear right now. I broke up 4 months ago, had a few meetings and sex 3 months ago, with my ex of 6 years. Right now i am dating another woman, and i am taking it really slow.

 

I have a gut feeling that my ex will come back. Also, i am afraid she is BPD. And if she indeed is, she will definitely come back at some point... It sounds strange, but i love her, even though she betrayed me.

 

I don't know what to do. Right now, i don't think i want my ex back. But that is because she is done with me, and NC. I don't know, if and when she comes to take me back, how i will react. And that scares me from going forward.

 

Still, i can't stand still, let time pass, and not enjoy my life. I am open about my feelings with the woman i am dating. I told her everything. Actually, this has made her pull back a little too, but that's ok. I have a clear conscience...

 

Hi Christos. What you said hit me deep because I, too, went through a situation exactly like what you're afraid of happening.

 

My previous ex dumped me. Her reasons were all over the place. Although she came from a very good family and upbringing, she was a lost soul. She didn't know where she wanted to end up in life or what she wanted to do. She disguised this by continuing her law school studies. It was her excuse to take things slow and not commit to anything fully such as getting engaged or working a career job. She casually took part-time courses while also working part-time. She wasn't BPD, but she had a few characteristics of it. Long story short, after she dumped me, I was a mess for many months. I finally got better around the 6 month mark. I found myself not even thinking about her and thus, I reasonably concluded that I must have been over her. Things were going good in my career and during this time I also met someone else. Someone better, younger, more compatible and in hindsight more beautiful both physically and internally than my previous ex.

 

So what happened next? Well, of course, my ex contacted me. I was taking things slow with my then current girl and felt that I would never go back to my ex, but sure enough, I did. You see, sometimes even when we think we are over our previous ex's, we really don't know. We won't know until the bridge presents itself and you have to make a choice. So there is really no difference between what the OP said or what others say in that you shouldn't date until you're fully healed, because even if you are fully healed, you will never know how you will react until your ex actually contacts you for reconciliation. Anyways, after she expressed sincere sorrow for her decision and regret, I foolishly decided to go back to her. We got back together and it lasted another few months until she decided to dump me yet again. By the time this happened the 2nd time, I was furious. I ended up reaching back to my other ex, but she never wavered as I had hurt her too much.

 

So why am I telling you this? So you don't make the same mistake I did. I went complete NC with this bitch from the day she broke up with me, but 1 thing I failed to do was to block her number. If you have reason to suspect your ex has BPD, which means she's not a stable person, then she will do this to you again. You may not like what I'm about to say, but NC is not enough. You have to break all contact from her which also means blocking her number.

Edited October 3, 2015 by Jaded15

[Samuel_22]

To learn to be happy alone. Not rely on others for your happiness is something you should be doing at this point and in the future. When you truly can be happy with yourself, that's the best time to find someone to share it with. Until then, learn to be happy alone/with yourself.

It's possible, and theoretically speaking it is what we all have to do, but there are a lot of determining parameters which make the idea of staying single moot. If you have a lot of friends, family members and colleagues that you can hang out with, well you can opt this practice and it will pay off. However, if you have family members who always go on at you and this is the best they can do or if you don't have many friends, and the closest ones you know are merely your acquaintances, then this method is impractical at best. I mean people have to decide based on what is going on in their lives, for me staying alone for too long=Insanity. It does not mean that I am an emotionally attached person. It has got nothing to do with that, It is that being alone equals to being lonely, I am fine with being alone, but being lonely? Nah it sucks... But take it slow as people said, and tell the truth to the new person, but make a promise and that is ,do not commit, unless you are completely over your ex. That is when you have the courage, to even change your phone number. We are all heartbroken, we know how hard it is, so don't break anyone's heart.

[Samuel_22]

Hi Christos. What you said hit me deep because I, too, went through a situation exactly like what you're afraid of happening.

 

My previous ex dumped me. Her reasons were all over the place. Although she came from a very good family and upbringing, she was a lost soul. She didn't know where she wanted to end up in life or what she wanted to do. She disguised this by continuing her law school studies. It was her excuse to take things slow and not commit to anything fully such as getting engaged or working a career job. She casually took part-time courses while also working part-time. She wasn't BPD, but she had a few characteristics of it. Long story short, after she dumped me, I was a mess for many months. I finally got better around the 6 month mark. I found myself not even thinking about her and thus, I reasonably concluded that I must have been over her. Things were going good in my career and during this time I also met someone else. Someone better, younger, more compatible and in hindsight more beautiful both physically and internally than my previous ex.

 

So what happened next? Well, of course, my ex contacted me. I was taking things slow with my then current girl and felt that I would never go back to my ex, but sure enough, I did. You see, sometimes even when we think we are over our previous ex's, we really don't know. We won't know until the bridge presents itself and you have to make a choice. So there is really no difference between what the OP said or what others say in that you shouldn't date until you're fully healed, because even if you are fully healed, you will never know how you will react until your ex actually contacts you for reconciliation. Anyways, after she expressed sincere sorrow for her decision and regret, I foolishly decided to go back to her. We got back together and it lasted another few months until she decided to dump me yet again. By the time this happened the 2nd time, I was furious. I ended up reaching back to my other ex, but she never wavered as I had hurt her too much.

 

So why am I telling you this? So you don't make the same mistake I did. I went complete NC with this bitch from the day she broke up with me, but 1 thing I failed to do was to block her number. If you have reason to suspect your ex has BPD, which means she's not a stable person, then she will do this to you again. You may not like what I'm about to say, but NC is not enough. You have to break all contact from her which also means blocking her number.

Uh... That sucks! Jaded15 did you happen to miss the person that you left to be with your ex, in the course of your second attempt in the RS? Did you feel regret? or did it just hit you when your ex left you again? Sorry if this is reminiscent of something, but I think your response can turn into something meaningful in my situation. Thanks

[Jaded15]

Uh... That sucks! Jaded15 did you happen to miss the person that you left to be with your ex, in the course of your second attempt in the RS? Did you feel regret? or did it just hit you when your ex left you again? Sorry if this is reminiscent of something, but I think your response can turn into something meaningful in my situation. Thanks

 

Hi Samuel: Not initially, not at all. Things were great for me in the beginning and I was very happy but towards the middle of our 2nd stint R/S is when I started realizing that she hadn't really changed and I took a calculated stupid risk in going back to her and that's when I started missing her. I then started comparing the two and feared I had made a mistake and sure enough, 2 months later she dumped me again. It's the biggest regret in my life. I foolishly opened my heart in going back to my ex because I had such a long history with her. We were together for 2 years, whereas with my then new current gf, we had only been together for 6 months at the time.

 

I know this is cliche and I hate saying it, but it's so true when they say, "Love is blind." It's hard for you to see the writings on the wall when you're in love. Only with time and looking back can you see everything for what it was. I think a lot of the times, we think we know ourselves, but we really don't. Think about it, we live with our thoughts every single day, but there is so much we don't even know with how our mind works, why it works the way it does. The subconscious is as powerful as the conscious. We may think we know, but we don't. I was adamant that I would never go back with my ex. I had every reason to suspect that was true because at the time, I no longer thought of her. However, you truly will NEVER know how you feel unless the opportunity presents itself. I guarantee you, some of the dumpees who are on this site and profess they're over their ex's or won't ever go back with them, won't know what to do if that bridge came about.

 

I don't know how often 2nd chances really work. I think it's one of those that statistics no one can ever find out, even in our obsessive analytical modern era we live in today because every breakup is different and every peson is different. I think it's not too uncommon for a dumper to contact a dumpee back in hopes for a 2nd chance, but what gets lost is not them starting a 2nd relationship, but if that 2nd relationship will truly last. I suspect it lasting is on the rare side because if things are great between two people, they don't break up to being with. They solve their problems and it never gets to a stage where a couple breaks up.

 

My point in writing this is to caution others. If you have an ex who is not a stable person, than I can almost guarantee you, they will do this to you again. Like I said, I went NC from the very beginning, but one thing I didn't do, was to block her number. I wish I had done that.

[Samuel_22]

Hi Samuel: Not initially, not at all. Things were great for me in the beginning and I was very happy but towards the middle of our 2nd stint R/S is when I started realizing that she hadn't really changed and I took a calculated stupid risk in going back to her and that's when I started missing her. I then started comparing the two and feared I had made a mistake and sure enough, 2 months later she dumped me again. It's the biggest regret in my life. I foolishly opened my heart in going back to my ex because I had such a long history with her. We were together for 2 years, whereas with my then new current gf, we had only been together for 6 months at the time.

 

I know this is cliche and I hate saying it, but it's so true when they say, "Love is blind." It's hard for you to see the writings on the wall when you're in love. Only with time and looking back can you see everything for what it was. I think a lot of the times, we think we know ourselves, but we really don't. Think about it, we live with our thoughts every single day, but there is so much we don't even know with how our mind works, why it works the way it does. The subconscious is as powerful as the conscious. We may think we know, but we don't. I was adamant that I would never go back with my ex. I had every reason to suspect that was true because at the time, I no longer thought of her. However, you truly will NEVER know how you feel unless the opportunity presents itself. I guarantee you, some of the dumpees who are on this site and profess they're over their ex's or won't ever go back with them, won't know what to do if that bridge came about.

 

I don't know how often 2nd chances really work. I think it's one of those that statistics no one can ever find out, even in our obsessive analytical modern era we live in today because every breakup is different and every peson is different. I think it's not too uncommon for a dumper to contact a dumpee back in hopes for a 2nd chance, but what gets lost is not them starting a 2nd relationship, but if that 2nd relationship will truly last. I suspect it lasting is on the rare side because if things are great between two people, they don't break up to being with. They solve their problems and it never gets to a stage where a couple breaks up.

 

My point in writing this is to caution others. If you have an ex who is not a stable person, than I can almost guarantee you, they will do this to you again. Like I said, I went NC from the very beginning, but one thing I didn't do, was to block her number. I wish I had done that.

Well that was very insightful Jaded15, everyday I live on LS, I learn a new thing or two, how precious users' experiences are and how we can learn from each other to avoid touching the stove ourselves to understand it is ''hot''. I hope others also take heed. But the thing that makes me wonder, is that, what would have happened, if the girl,whom you had left for your ex, had accepted your offer for the 2nd chance? Were you about to start a serious RS with her? I was with my ex for 6 months too and she left me for an ex too... I was determined to say no, even if she crawled back. But I am not so sure anymore. Thank you once more

[Jaded15]

Well that was very insightful Jaded15, everyday I live on LS, I learn a new thing or two, how precious users' experiences are and how we can learn from each other to avoid touching the stove ourselves to understand it is ''hot''. I hope others also take heed. But the thing that makes me wonder, is that, what would have happened, if the girl,whom you had left for your ex, had accepted your offer for the 2nd chance? Were you about to start a serious RS with her? I was with my ex for 6 months too and she left me for an ex too... I was determined to say no, even if she crawled back. But I am not so sure anymore. Thank you once more

 

Mike Tyson once famously said; "Everyone's got a plan, until they get punched in the mouth." I think this applies to many aspects in life including breakups. It's one thing to have a plan, but it's a whole other thing executing it. How many people do we know that claim they are going on a diet to lose weight, but never execute it. Same thing with breakups. Yes, there are many who mean what they say, and when contacted by the dumper, don't give them a 2nd chance, but there's also many who do the exact opposite.

 

With my situation I wouldn't have taken the bait had she given me breadcrumbs, but she gave me a sincere apology and went out of her way to appear remorseful in asking me for another try. Like I said, I was adamant in my belief that I was over her and never going back, but I foolishly did. When you see the person you loved for so long face-to-face again and they appear to express sincere regret, cry, and ask you for another try, all your plans are thrown out the window. You will never know how you will react until that situation presents itself no matter how strongly you feel. To answer your question, if she had accepted my offer in giving me a 2nd chance I was very truthful in starting a serious R/S with her. I had a mutual friend tell me that she was crushed about the breakup. I cringed hearing those words and hated myself. I think she still had very strong feelings for me even months after I broke up with her when I tried to go back to her, but she didn't accept my apology in trying reconcile not because she lost feelings, or found someone else, but rather because she knew she could never trust me again. It was too much of a risk for her to be in a R/S with me knowing/fearing that I can one day, once again, go back to my ex, and I can't blame her for thinking that way even though I wouldn't have.

[Bigmiked]

I'm in a similar situation now. I've been no contact for over two months. Exgf whom I believe has BPD dumped me . Last night after many beers I contacted her. It was late but she responded. We talked , I probably opened up more than I should have but hey it happens. She said she really didn't want to talk about our feelings. I said sorry to bother her and good night. She responded with she wants my friendship ,ughhhh, and would still like to text. I didn't respond to that but let her know some of my feelings and we said goodnight.

[xxCourt96xx]

I'm in the same boat as you. My ex left me out of the blue over a month ago after I thought we were so much in love (he literally texted my step-sister and told her he didn't love me anymore and there was nothing left between us..apparently he wasn't happy anymore? He couldn't even tell me himself)...I'm pretty sure he has GIGS because now he seems to be dating his "best friend" who he always told me not to worry about, seeing as she posted pictures of them on her Facebook because he presented her with a dozen roses and a candy bouquet to ask her to a dance.

 

Seeing that picture plastered all of my Facebook kind of really hurt all over again but also helped me grow a backbone...if he's going to move on and live his life as if I never existed, then I will do the same. I was his longest relationship, treated him the way he deserved to be treated because of his past and I never wanted him to feel like he was alone again. Never mistreated him...but look at me...I'm the one that's feeling alone because he left me in the cruelest way.

 

I'm always going to hold out hope that maybe once he realizes that the grass isn't always greener, he'll realize that "Damn...she loved me and look what I did to her." and he'll come back and give me a proper apology someday. But at the same time, I'm not going to let that stop me from moving on. So, to answer your question, it isn't wrong of you to hold out hope... but please do move on, get into a new relationship, don't be afraid to fall in love again...don't let her stop you from moving on because you could be missing out.

Edited October 8, 2015 by xxCourt96xx

[Speirling]

IMO it's the "hope" thing that concerns me...

 

My perspective is that you should never say never, but I'm not hoping for anything, just acknowledging a possibility that MAY exist in the distant future. I still love my ex, and in fact I believe I always will, but it doesn't change the fact that the relationship didn't work out.

 

This is the beauty of NC for me, it's all about my recovery and getting ready for my next big love. Whoever that is, I need to have let all this go and be very honest about being past it before I have a proper relationship again. Doing really well, but not yet ready for that...

 

All that aside, spending time with the opposite sex has definitely helped even though I don't want to date yet. Flirting, fun and other people can really help you understand that as much as you love that one person, there ARE SO MANY COOL PEOPLE YOU HAVENT MET YET! It also helps you remember what's brilliant about just being you

 

My ex has told me recently, repeatedly that he loves me and misses me, but I know he's not resolved the issues that broke us up. After discussing it he acknowledged he isn't ready to try again although he wishes he was. I myself do not want to try again now either, because I'm not totally over it, I have a lot more work I want to do on myself and any chance we had to be together again would require both of us to have fully grieved and let go of this relationship.

 

Everybody is different, but I think if you are really honest with yourself you will be able to answer the question of whether your "hope" is holding you back from recovering or not.

 

Sxxx

[Samuel_22]

IMO it's the "hope" thing that concerns me...

 

My perspective is that you should never say never, but I'm not hoping for anything, just acknowledging a possibility that MAY exist in the distant future. I still love my ex, and in fact I believe I always will, but it doesn't change the fact that the relationship didn't work out.

 

This is the beauty of NC for me, it's all about my recovery and getting ready for my next big love. Whoever that is, I need to have let all this go and be very honest about being past it before I have a proper relationship again. Doing really well, but not yet ready for that...

 

All that aside, spending time with the opposite sex has definitely helped even though I don't want to date yet. Flirting, fun and other people can really help you understand that as much as you love that one person, there ARE SO MANY COOL PEOPLE YOU HAVENT MET YET! It also helps you remember what's brilliant about just being you

 

My ex has told me recently, repeatedly that he loves me and misses me, but I know he's not resolved the issues that broke us up. After discussing it he acknowledged he isn't ready to try again although he wishes he was. I myself do not want to try again now either, because I'm not totally over it, I have a lot more work I want to do on myself and any chance we had to be together again would require both of us to have fully grieved and let go of this relationship.

 

Everybody is different, but I think if you are really honest with yourself you will be able to answer the question of whether your "hope" is holding you back from recovering or not.

 

Sxxx

The only reason you are still in love with the person is that you have not completely healed I suppose, kill your hopes because that will translate into big progress. I achieved what I could not achieve in the matter of 1 and half months only in 1 week, the only thing that I did was to delete the last lane of communication with my ex. I simply deleted that, only God knows how much I grieved the minute I did it. but the next day I knew it was over forever. Besides that was my revenge on her actions, because I am pretty sure she thought, I would wait for her forever. I did it, it was a demonstration of my power, I have also shifted all my love and concentration on a new person I have met. We have not started any RS. but that helped me a lot to think less and less of my ex.. your ex should have no space in your mind

[Speirling]

It's great that you've found what works for you Samuel, well done

 

I've shifted my love and concentration onto a new person too, except that person is me

 

As long as you're being honest with yourself I think this will be different for everyone.

 

Sxxx

[singme2sleep]

Does anyone ever fear that they will never love again?

[Speirling]

I do singme, on my bad days. I worry I'll never feel what I felt for him for anyone else. Sometimes I worry I'll be too scared to feel something like that again because of how much I was hurt, so I'll run away if something else comes along.

 

But most of the time, I believe that going through all of this is what I need to do so that I'm ready when the right one comes along, and that I've needed this to learn something important I'll need later on.

 

Sxxx

[singme2sleep]

I do singme, on my bad days. I worry I'll never feel what I felt for him for anyone else. Sometimes I worry I'll be too scared to feel something like that again because of how much I was hurt, so I'll run away if something else comes along.

 

But most of the time, I believe that going through all of this is what I need to do so that I'm ready when the right one comes along, and that I've needed this to learn something important I'll need later on.

 

Sxxx

 

I feel so pathetic saying this, but I still haven't convinced myself that he isn't the right one. I know he walked away and sacrificed our relationship because of his depression, but I can't seem to get it through to my heart that it's really over. He was everything to me and I believed with all my heart and soul that he wouldn't leave. How will I ever trust again?!

 

Right now, the idea of ever dating someone else, kissing someone else etc makes me sick to my stomach.

[candie13]

Does anyone ever fear that they will never love again?

 

I've never feared I would never love again.... I did fear I might never find anyone quite as good as him. But I knew I would love again.

 

By sheer luck I've stumbled into someone massively different and in so many ways better. We'll see if it's meant to be

[Speirling]

It's not pathetic singme, I've had a really hard time believing that we're not "fated" to be together too - as away-with-the-fairies as that sounds. For me, I have accepted that it wasn't working, and that if it was somehow fated, maybe it was to help me learn something I needed to know before I met the "real" one. But I've never believed in a feeling so much in my life.

 

There's a quote you see around here that says "if you love someone, let them go. If they come back, they're yours, if they don't, they never were"

 

This is NOT to say that anyone shouldn't move on, let go, and really work on not hoping that they'll come back. For me it's a way of accepting that what I felt was special, just not in the way I understood it to be at the time. I look forward now to finding out why I went through it all (and still am!).

 

When you're ready, you won't feel that way about being with someone else, but it took me an awful lot of work!

 

Sxxx

[singme2sleep]

It's not pathetic singme, I've had a really hard time believing that we're not "fated" to be together too - as away-with-the-fairies as that sounds. For me, I have accepted that it wasn't working, and that if it was somehow fated, maybe it was to help me learn something I needed to know before I met the "real" one. But I've never believed in a feeling so much in my life.

 

There's a quote you see around here that says "if you love someone, let them go. If they come back, they're yours, if they don't, they never were"

 

This is NOT to say that anyone shouldn't move on, let go, and really work on not hoping that they'll come back. For me it's a way of accepting that what I felt was special, just not in the way I understood it to be at the time. I look forward now to finding out why I went through it all (and still am!).

 

When you're ready, you won't feel that way about being with someone else, but it took me an awful lot of work!

 

Sxxx

 

I guess I'm still in shock or something, I can't even wrap my head around this breakup. There was a time when he was over the moon in love with me, now what? Did he just flip the switch on his feelings or did depression steal him from me? Either way I lost my best friend and I'm a wreck without him.

[Speirling]

Impossible to believe when it's so raw, I know, but you will get through this. I felt the same way, and I never would have believed it if you'd told me, but this has actually taught me more than I could have imagined about myself, and I'm moving from feeling so lost to finding myself in a way I never thought possible. Your strength will end up surprising you, just keep holding on to the belief that one day it will start to feel better. Read people's stories on here, they'll help show you it can be done!

 

Big hugs,

 

Sxxx

[singme2sleep]

Impossible to believe when it's so raw, I know, but you will get through this. I felt the same way, and I never would have believed it if you'd told me, but this has actually taught me more than I could have imagined about myself, and I'm moving from feeling so lost to finding myself in a way I never thought possible. Your strength will end up surprising you, just keep holding on to the belief that one day it will start to feel better. Read people's stories on here, they'll help show you it can be done!

 

Big hugs,

 

Sxxx

 

Thank you, you're very kind. How long have you been broken up?

[Speirling]

Nearly 6 months but NC for nearly 4 until this last weekend.

 

I didn't think I'd make it through for the first couple of months of NC. But eventually I had a day that was "ok".

 

I've got a long way to go still, but I can't believe how far I've come already.

 

How long for you singme?

 

Sxxx