Got it Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Most of the age discrimination I've seen is people not being taken seriously because they are too young. Although if you're in tech sometimes being 50 plus can be seen as a negative. Which isn't illegal at least in the US. Age is only protected for those over 40 years of age. One can legally discriminate against those younger (choosing not to hire those under 18 for example). Companies are allowed to discriminate as long as it is not a protected characteristic. (One can go to the EEOC website to learn more about what is protected). Link to post Share on other sites
SincereOnlineGuy Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I agree, I am not saying he's a bad person, but this kind of info should be... private information. Only HR should know this kind of stuff. I don't think he should be entitled to know my age. This is absurd. One need likely just Google your name, and winnow down multiple such names by geographic location and your age soon leaps out at the interested and the largely uninterested at the same time. Why bother with the paranoia over it? It may be technically against the law to discriminate against you based on age (just as it is against the law to discriminate in employment based on a prior felony conviction) <cough>... but it is not against the law to discriminate based on your paranoia 1 Link to post Share on other sites
loverboy69 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 My younger sister got kinda' fat a couple of years back. She's lost the weight since. But when she was at her heaviest she refused to step on a scale in front of me because she didn't want me to know how much she weighed. I told her I don't care what the scale says I know what you look like. No point in trying to cover it up or hide it. I think you guys know where I'm going with this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Maggie4 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Hey Edgygirl and Eternal Sunshine, I also look much younger. It has always been a dating problem for me. Younger men approach me because they thought I was much younger. Had one guy who was actually the same age as me, who couldn't hide his disappointment when he found out I wasn't that young. That hurt. I never tried to deceive him. People make their own assumptions, then they get upset. I'd rather announce my age at the beginning. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NewLeaf512 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Without going too much into detail for privacy reasons, a few points below. There's a great chance he is younger than me i.e. as due to several reasons I started my professional life 8-10 years later than usual. But it's not only that. I'll give another example - at the beginning of my career a woman who was doing the project management of a project I was working on as an intermediate professional asked me my age. At the time I was naive about this, and would say it to anyone who asked. Right away she said: how come we are the same age and you are in a lower position??? Well well... because I've had an interesting life, traveled the world, was conscripted to the army in my country of origin for a couple years, did many more interesting things than you before having my first job, biatch? No, I didn't say that, but I understood very quickly people will judge your age related to you position and whatnot. Hence I stopped divulging personal details since. HR will have my data yes, but in such a big company I am not sure my direct boss can ask for this kind of stuff from them. Prob not. See my point? I don't want people to prejudge me due to ageism, sexism, whatever it may be. I learned that saying less is usually the best way to go. Anyone has advice on the original question? If you are working in a Fortune 500 company it is likely you are in NY CA or TX. I understand your desire for privacy, but unfortunately in your situation you will have very little. The only data protection you may have is the nature of your disability (if one exists) (marital status) and (sexual orientation) Please do not use a sticky. You will be sending up a flare gun of curiosity. Then to look at your own passport. They are darn near impossible to read. He would have to really examine it to find it. This is an I-9 check. He's going to look at the photo, look at your face and hand it back most likely. You were hired, they don't care how old you are. If he does know and tells anyone you can bring a case. You just go on with your awesome woman moving up the career ladder and go on with your bad self. Hug NL 2 Link to post Share on other sites
katiegrl Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Hi edgygirl...and congrats on the new job! Since you were questioning why you couldn't just fax or email your I-9 docs to HR ....in the US, on the first day of employment, the law requires that a manager in your office view the *original* documents for authenticity. Then they sign the I-9 *confirming* that they viewed the *original* documents and that they are, in fact, authentic. After that, he/she will fax or email *copies,* of your I-9 with the docs to HR...and return your original docs back to you. Good luck!! Link to post Share on other sites
sweetjasmine Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 To add to what everyone else has said, you have to put your DOB on your I-9. It's absolutely required. Even if someone found a way around not showing ID with DOB on it (which is actually impossible to do while still meeting the acceptable document requirement), you can't complete the form and be verified for employment without a DOB. Link to post Share on other sites
Author edgygirl Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Thanks for the answers guys. Please understand my OP. Of course I had to complete forms with my DOB during the hiring process, I am not questioning that... My question was about being pissed my direct manager had to see it on my first day... in all other companies I worked, usually a random assistant HR person or so checked the original document and that was it. Now that I've been there for a few days, I understood why my direct manager was the one to check it. I work in a huge city, but my office is considered a Regional one, as our HQ are in another city, and we have no HR representative at this office. Which is probably a great thing actually, lol. As for the OP, no big deal after all. My new boss is just a great person. It's a shame he will only be my temporary boss as my real boss left the company. Thanks again everyone. Link to post Share on other sites
Author edgygirl Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Meh... I look about 10+ years younger. It's kind of surreal but over and over, when people (from different backgrounds, races, ages, sex) try to guess my age they say a number about 10-13 years younger than my actual age. It's good but frustrating at the same time. My younger sister got kinda' fat a couple of years back. She's lost the weight since. But when she was at her heaviest she refused to step on a scale in front of me because she didn't want me to know how much she weighed. I told her I don't care what the scale says I know what you look like. No point in trying to cover it up or hide it. I think you guys know where I'm going with this. Link to post Share on other sites
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