123321 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 You keep insisting this, yet you still haven't shown me how you are coming up with your ideas about the passage I quoted. It says so, in the passage itself. You chose poorly, move on. The point is valid, the scripture you picked is not on point. Link to post Share on other sites
gaius Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Syrian refugees aren't hungry and they don't lack clothing either. So I don't even know what you're talking about Rosebud using those passages. You're either unaware of the actual condition the refugees face or it's just a terrible argument. If there was a genuine famine going on in the camps Christians would probably be one of the first groups to try and pitch in. They were often coming down with Ebola during the crisis because many of them were overseas helping. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Haydn Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Syrian refugees aren't hungry and they don't lack clothing either. So I don't even know what you're talking about Rosebud using those passages. You're either unaware of the actual condition the refugees face or it's just a terrible argument. If there was a genuine famine going on in the camps Christians would probably be one of the first groups to try and pitch in. They were often coming down with Ebola during the crisis because many of them were overseas helping. You know do you? The only reason they have clothes and food is because of the kindness of strangers. I have seen with my own eyes in Europe. Yes Christians have been pitching in. Warm your blood........ 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Rejected Rosebud Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 Syrian refugees aren't hungry and they don't lack clothing either. So I don't even know what you're talking about Rosebud using those passages. You're either unaware of the actual condition the refugees face or it's just a terrible argument. They have food and clothing because of getting help from others. They have NOTHING without that help. This is just so misguided and horrid I can't even ... :( Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 They have food and clothing because of getting help from others. They have NOTHING without that help. This is just so misguided and horrid I can't even ... :( Silly woman...they are traveling with refrigerators and chest-of-drawers strapped to their backs, donchaknow? I'm really disappointed in this thread. I expected that People in the Know (i.e., the self-professed Good Christians) would come in and explain why it is A-OK to ban and deport a certain people from a certain country and/or to cast a disparaging eye on ANYone whose name contains two or more syllables containing two or more consecutive vowels despite Jesus' numerous teachings on the subjects of love, patience, understanding, forgiveness, and acceptance. Instead, we're getting Christian Theologians who are out-of-work editors, who want to point out that the cited passage doesn't say what the OP thinks it says and therefore Good Christians are A-OK acting in a decidedly unChristian-*like* manner. WWJD? Apparently, He'd blue-pencil those He doesn't agree with, to death. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
gaius Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 You know do you? The only reason they have clothes and food is because of the kindness of strangers. I have seen with my own eyes in Europe. Yes Christians have been pitching in. Warm your blood........ Well that's good, they have clothes and food, they're alive (which is more than can be said for the Paris victims) so apparently Christians are being Christian. According to the passages Rosebud quoted. Glad we resolved that. I honestly don't know how you can see so many people get killed due to terrorism and still support the root cause, Muslim immigration, and consider yourself compassionate. Maybe you should spend more time seeing what happens during an attack rather than bumming around refugee camps. =/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Haydn Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Well that's good, they have clothes and food, they're alive (which is more than can be said for the Paris victims) so apparently Christians are being Christian. According to the passages Rosebud quoted. Glad we resolved that. I honestly don't know how you can see so many people get killed due to terrorism and still support the root cause, Muslim immigration, and consider yourself compassionate. Maybe you should spend more time seeing what happens during an attack rather than bumming around refugee camps. =/ Is the sun out? (Sorry) Well, `bumming around` You have first hand experience? Probably. Compassion is a strange thing Gaius. Hits you when you are in the mix of it. Overwhelms..(Most) I remember first hand the attack in London. Lost a good friend on the tube. I know she wouldn`t think `Muslim immigration` is the root cause. Your experience and insight is as inspiring as usual. But i suspect i am OT now. (I have garlic) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BC1980 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 This may or may not answer the OP's question. As far as the US government, I can't see that it has any obligation to admit refugees on a basis of Christian morality. Because, obviously, we are not a country that officially endorses any religion, so the US wouldn't be bound to admit refugees on that basis. Add to that the fact that I don't believe Jesus' teachings were meant to inform how government operates anymore than I feel his teachings were meant to inform science. Jesus operated outside of the political sphere. Anyway. . . . to those who identify as American citizens and Christians, are we supposed to encourage our government to admit refugees on a Christian basis? Would doing so be in line with Jesus' teachings? OP, I know that you meant Christians should support admitting refugees on a personal basis, but it does present an interesting quandary when we realize that we are at the mercy of the government. Do we defy our government if they decide against admitting refugees? I'm a Christian, and I do believe we should come up with a plan to help refugees. But I personally think that churches would be a great place to begin helping. I think churches that are able could come up with a plan to sponsor families. I attend a relatively affluent church that would have no problem monetarily supporting any family from anywhere, but we don't do it. Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Syrian refugees aren't hungry and they don't lack clothing either. It's a parable, not literal. The parable of the good Samaritan is noteworthy for not only the actions described, but the fact the kind man was a Samaritan and the beaten man an Israelite is extremely important to the underlying point. "Which of these was neighbor to ...." Link to post Share on other sites
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