What sort of female seeks a sugardaddy and other such questions?

[Tony]

I stumbled across a forum on the Internet where females of all ages were seeking sugardaddies, males who would help them financially in return for some form of companionship, in many cases including sex. Many were college students trying to find someone to help them make ends meet. Often they stated they were willing to have such a relationship with a male 30 or 40 years older than them. Others were ladies in relationships they didn't want to give up but who wanted discrete sugardaddie-type situations on the side where the man would provide them with the finer things in life in return for whatever with no other strings attached. It was an interesting half hour reading the posts.

 

Exactly what's in a woman's mind who would seriously seek a guy out simply to give him sex in return for support money with no other strings attached? Isn't that something difficult to do? (I'm a bit naive, I guess) I suppose it's a pretty honest relationship if it's all out in the open but it would seem to me there are many potholes when you take this sort of road.

 

Are sugardaddie relationships common?

 

Just wondering.

[swirlingdaisy]

Your post got me curious so I did a search..not sure if the site I found is the same one you've been to? The one I found is an actual dating site, where men can find a Sugar Mommy or women can find a Sugar Daddy. Oh man, it's so sad. The profiles contain the guy's estimated net worth........some claim to be millionaires. Somehow I find that hard to believe - that a truly wealthy man would be out there on the internet, broadcasting his wealth - looking for a woman.

 

I can't imagine a guy being so desperate to get a women/piece of arse/or whatever....that he'd use his wealth to attract a golddigger. I also can't understand a woman who would be specifically looking for a wealthy dude, to be his trophy girl.......surely she must know that he's likely got chicks all over the globe. It's all pretty amazing.

[Tony]

Daisy, everything you said is true. I'm just wondering why a woman would get involved in such a relationship...oh yes, of course, for the money....but what would be going through her head? Making such a drastic change in one's lifestyle for the sake of a few bucks and a short term association with somebody she doesn't even know and may not be attracted to is something I cannot imaging doing...if I was female.

[swirlingdaisy]

I'm reading some of the profiles for the "sugar babes" (the chicks looking for sugar daddies) and it's amazing. I can't even begin to imagine why they would think so little of themselves, all for money. They might as well just go out and become prostitutes or escorts?

 

I suspect that most of the men on here are married/involved...as most indicate they're looking for something "discreet".........so here these gals know up front the guy is looking for nothing more than fun and no-strings sex.

 

Some of the sugar daddies look bloody scary in their pictures......grainy webcam pics of them looking right demented. Who knows anything about them? Their background? They could be psychotic predators who make up stories about being wealthy just to lure desperate dingbats - they could be rapists and abusers and psychopaths. Any guy can claim he's rich.

 

Ugh. I've yet to check out the profiles for Sugar boys (or whatever the hell they're called) - the guys looking for a Sugar Momma. I think I've almost seen enough LOL

[Beth]

Dang! I wish we could post links -- I sure could use a SugarDaddy!

 

It seems with todays moral standards regarding sex and the freedoms thereof, a lot of people wouldn't be too concerned about performing a service for which they need no real technical training or education. (I wonder how long it will be before we see Prostitution 101 on a college curriculum?)

 

This generation doesn't have the same view of sex that I had growing up. In some ways I can see the appeal -- no interest rates, no finance charges, no bad debt that can show up on a credit report and yet the women who do this can have all the things it takes others years of hard work and intense education to achieve. It seems kind of lazy in a way, but on the other hand it seems rather clever.

 

I know people who are paid companions for elderly or handicapped persons who want to stay in their homes but are not able to do for themselves. The companions clean the house, cook the meals, run the errands and spend time talking with or reading to home-bound individuals. To be paid to dress up and go out to parties, or sit around and watch TV or play cards, or whatever, and spend a few minutes engaging in sex in return for some financial security of their own seems like it would be an easier job! I probably would have finished college a LOT sooner than I did if I didn't have to worry about making ends meet and needing to schedule my education and my life around my inflexible working hours.

 

Originally when I saw your post I thought "Ew, no-way" but the more I think about it, the more Pros I see than Cons. Taking care not to get pregnant or contract a disease would be no different then when dating, and as a short-term 'career' I think it could work. As a long-term career? No, someday they will fall in love or want to date and be afraid to, or not able to find anyone who would be OK with that as their job, or procrastinate on the other parts of their life so that when it ends they have nothing to fall back on.

[meanon]

I know a few women who do not associate sex with love. They've learnt to detatch the two as a reaction to their life experience. There are probably as many reasons as there are women looking for these types of arrangements but I think it likely that some would seek sex and love in different places. To them, sex is simply not as meaningful as it is to other people.

[moimeme]

For that matter why would a man? What a great life - living with someone who'll let you park your equipment and for that small favour, you spend thousands? You think maybe these poor fellows delude themselves into thinking the women care about them or are they just heartless schmucks who are incapable of real emotion?

 

As for the women - sweet deal. Live however you want, never worry about having to work, and all that for the occasional roll in the hay. What's the difference, really, between prostituting oneself to one's boss 8 hours a day? This way, these gals get to live the life of Riley and 'work' maybe an hour a day if that.

 

Sometimes I almost wish I was someone who could just do that - life'd be a heckuva lot easier. However, I'm not one of the sorts of folks who can divorce sex from love so I'm hooped

 

As a man in that situation, however, I'd worry about being murdered at some point. Who's to say the chickie you take up with hasn't an accomplice willing to help her share in the goodies she gets if the sugar daddy kicks the bucket?

[swirlingdaisy]

Not sure how wealthy some of the men are...............a heckuva lot of their profiles are clear that they will not pay for a woman's airfare for her to initially meet him, that's her financial obligation LOL.

 

I don't get the sense that the majority of men on here are just lonely rich guys who are looking for some fun - seems obvious that most of them are married, just looking for a mistress - and in order to accomplish this, they'll give her some bells and whistles as a guarantee she'll keep the secret.

 

Moi, can you really compare women doing this to a person supposedly prostituting themselves at their job for 8 hrs a day? How many brains or skills does it take to flash your silicone titties, be willing to give a married man a blowjob in exchange for fancy clothes and nice dinners? There isn't even any way a woman stupid enough to do this would be able to verify that the guy is as wealthy as he claims to be. I imagine if he's married, as most obviously are - and he's so adamantly stressing everything being "discreet" that he's not exactly going to divulge too much information so that she could verify anything. He might be like that loser from years ago, Rick Rockwell (California) - who was on "Who Wants to Marry a Multi-Millionaire?" (ended up getting hitched to Darva Conger). He was exposed for being anything BUT a multi-millionaire. He drove a beat-up old toyota pick-up, lived in a run down 2 bedroom bungalow and was found to have peanuts for net worth.

[Craig]

Originally posted by Beth

I wonder how long it will be before we see Prostitution 101 on a college curriculum?

The Prostitute Information Center in Amsterdam offers a six-day course on how to practice the trade in the Netherlands. The course contains a survey of job opportunities, a field trip to a sex bar, a role-playing class with an actor portraying a customer and a class on finances to explain the tax-deductibility of such expenses as condoms, leatherwear and beauty aids.

 

I suppose the short duration of the course either says a lot about prostitutes or not very much about their customers.

[moimeme]

Moi, can you really compare women doing this to a person supposedly prostituting themselves at their job for 8 hrs a day? How many brains or skills does it take to flash your silicone titties, be willing to give a married man a blowjob in exchange for fancy clothes and nice dinners?

 

Precisely. Less effort and skill required and better returns. What's the diff between selling your soul to a corporation 8hrs a day or selling your body to a single guy for a couple hours a night? In neither case is your heart in it. Yes, some folks have careers they love but that's not the majority. And the sorts of women who have the lowest-paying most demeaning jobs would have the most to gain.

[westernxer]

The chicks who get sugar daddies are usually hot and twenty... they don't even have to look. Sugar daddy comes to them.

 

For everyone else, it's already too late. Especially if the whole world knows about it.

[simon_uk]

I know a girl who has done this for the past 4 or 5 years. She has had more than one on the go at the same time. She even tried to get my ex involved just before we met, when we were officially a couple I told her i didn't want her having anything to do with it so she became a Dominatrix instead (marginally more acceptable)

 

The girl with the sugar daddies,has never worked a proper job in her life, she owns her own house (Fully Paid) owns a 20,000 car (fully Paid), dresses in all designer clothes all the time. Goes on countless holidays and weekend breaks, she has just gone on a two week caribean cruise, with her daughter, her niece and the EX, all fully paid on the credit card a certain sugar daddy gave her! No wonder my ex never wants to get a real job and no wonder she decided to dump me!!!!!

 

In my opinion it is lame, cheap and degrading (and yes I did say this about the friend when the ex and I were together)

[tokyo]

I thought such women are called hypocrites and prostitutes?

 

I'm not really surprised about this, women who let men pay for their luxurious life were existent throughout the history of humankind. You had Greek hetaeras, French courtesans and I don't know what other names these women had. I see them as prostitutes with one customer. If you manage to keep the interest of one customer, more power to you.

[Pocky]

As long as both parties understand the arrangement, I don't think there's a problem with it. Some people don't care for the long-term traditional relationship and just want someone to spend time with occasionally and safe sex.

 

Also, prostitution should be legal in the states.

[CurlyIam]

I've been to a wedding this week end and seen such a pair. The girl was really beautiful, long dark hair, pretty red dress. He was slightly taller than her, gray hair on the sides, pink shirt and rather big bellied. His age - around late 30's. Her age - around mid 20's.

 

they were smiling and all, were dancing together and having fun. However, my stomach hurt when he started dancing with her this really old fashined style - I can't explain you exactly how... His eyes were kinda slippery though.

 

 

The feeling I got: sorry. I felt sorry for her. I could never trade the genuine good time I have with men within my range of age for anything else. Sure, some women like more mature men. Personally, I cannot trade their bank account for my personal fun. I'd be ridicule in front of my friends and I'd be ashamed of myself.

 

I know I'm being judgemental. I mean, if he was a nice, tall, thin, gray haired gentleman, who acted respectfully and all... maybe I would have felt envy instead of sorry... Main point: money does have a lotta importance, but it doesn't even begin to make up for the quality of the man you're seeing.

[Israfil]

Originally posted by Pocky

As long as both parties understand the arrangement, I don't think there's a problem with it. Some people don't care for the long-term traditional relationship and just want someone to spend time with occasionally and safe sex.

 

Also, prostitution should be legal in the states.

 

I agree with all of the above.

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with it. Most of you are imposing all of your own standards of morality onto something which, in my opinion, has little to do with morality. It is a business transaction. End of story.

[CurlyIam]

Not really. They're not all business transactions, where one would pay for certain services, unfortunately. Nt everything is black or white. Grey comes in an extraordinary large range of tones .

[sami]

It's prostitution only when it involves a negotiated amount of money in advance for sexual pleasure by either party involved. If it's a consexual adult recreational sex for anything other than a fixed sum then it becomes hard to label it as prostitution.

[d'Arthez]

The only objection you could make from a moral standpoint, is that the woman involved does little to improve herself spiritually / morally. The same is true for the man.

 

But then again, this statement in itself is futile, as we all have to accept that people behave in the ways they do. The wise man, and the fool.

[tokyo]

Originally posted by sami

It's prostitution only when it involves a negotiated amount of money in advance for sexual pleasure by either party involved. If it's a consexual adult recreational sex for anything other than a fixed sum then it becomes hard to label it as prostitution.

Hm?? Meaning if he gives her a 10.000 $ ring for various sexual services it's not prostitution, but if it's 10.000 $ cash it is?

[sami]

That all depends on the circumstances.

[moimeme]

This is all because of the idea that sex is dirty, nasty, and horrible and therefore people who engage in it, unless madly in love, are equally dirty, nasty, and horrible.

 

What's the difference between that and someone who stays in a dead marriage and continues to sleep with her husband because she can't afford to live on her own?

 

It's not as if everybody having sex and not exchanging money is in love, after all. We have a flock of Shackers who argue for the joys of 'unattached' sex all the time. I've even heard it described as no more important than a handshake. So why not get some $ from it?

 

Both people are upfront about such arrangements - that's a damn sight better than marriages in which somebody's having an affair and deceiving the other. I'm all for honesty and if that's what it takes for a couple of humans to actually be honest with each other, well maybe that's the best arrangement.

 

Of course, a lot of people have the illusion that they can have sex without ties and then find themselves attached to their sex partners who may not be attached back. But IF two people can manage such a relationship in a way that nobody gets hurt, why not? But like I said before, I'd worry about getting murdered. Both parties would need thorough background checks, etc. first, I figure.

[CurlyIam]

The question is not if it's right or wrong to receive money in exchange for sex. Not what prostitution is to you. Not if should be legalised or not.

 

The question is what type of females seek exclusively this type of relationship.

[moimeme]

The question is what type of females seek exclusively this type of relationship.

 

And the answer is: "practical ones" LOL

[CurlyIam]

LOL, I don't think so. Good point, though!

 

My take on it is "ruthless ones".