katiegrl Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) OK I have to admit that I wouldn't like it very much and under certain circumstances I might question the motives. However given the fact that women of color tend to face more discrimination than other groups, there would be a higher likelihood of my boss being unreasonable. However in this case we don't know if the OP is giving us the whole story. What I do know from experience is that the Korean-Americans guys in Seoul, Korea are a very tight-knit community. They often have family connections like a rich uncle, and also make connections between themselves. They also behave rather badly in public by getting drunk, picking fights with both locals and other expats, etc... all of which would be pretty bad for the company's reputation. Maybe in this case the OP's friend hired him over someone more qualified just because they were buddies and the boss' boss caught on really quick. Or maybe he was new in the country and made a cultural faux pas. Or perhaps he lied on his resume and they found out. Maybe this ... maybe that... maybe his hair is green and THAT turned someone off! LOL A lot of speculation (and perhaps projection?) on your part AsianGirl.. Why don't we stick to the facts, as the OP presented them. For one thing, he has posted he's not Korean-American, nor does he live in Korea... which makes your entire argument pretty much moot. Edited December 8, 2015 by katiegrl Link to post Share on other sites
AnAsianGirl Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Maybe this ... maybe that... maybe his hair is green and THAT turned someone off! LOL A lot of speculation (and perhaps projection?) on your part AsianGirl.. Why don't we stick to the facts, as the OP presented them. For one thing, he has posted he's not Korean-American, nor does he live in Korea... which makes your entire argument pretty much moot. Actually, no. My friends who live in other parts of Asia say that Asian-American guys in their respective countries act in a similar fashion. Think about it: He was fired from a job in a place where he has every possible advantage - being a heterosexual male as well being part of the ethnic/racial majority, AND having linguistic privilege. I'd have FAR more sympathy for him if he were, say African-American and facing discrimination anywhere; or even if he were just an ordinary white guy who got shafted in Asia. Besides if he was really serious about getting a job he could always work at McDonald's or something. Link to post Share on other sites
edgygirl Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Yeah... "work at McDonalds"... with a MBA. Flipping burgers you mean? OP question is super valid and you're making all kinds of assumptions out of nowhere. Talk about projection. Actually, no. My friends who live in other parts of Asia say that Asian-American guys in their respective countries act in a similar fashion. Think about it: He was fired from a job in a place where he has every possible advantage - being a heterosexual male as well being part of the ethnic/racial majority, AND having linguistic privilege. I'd have FAR more sympathy for him if he were, say African-American and facing discrimination anywhere; or even if he were just an ordinary white guy who got shafted in Asia. Besides if he was really serious about getting a job he could always work at McDonald's or something. Link to post Share on other sites
katiegrl Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Yeah... "work at McDonalds"... with a MBA. Flipping burgers you mean? OP question is super valid and you're making all kinds of assumptions out of nowhere. Talk about projection. [/url] Yup. Projection, judgment, with a dash of prejudice thrown in for (not so) good measure. Link to post Share on other sites
Author h57zf Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Actually, no. My friends who live in other parts of Asia say that Asian-American guys in their respective countries act in a similar fashion. Think about it: He was fired from a job in a place where he has every possible advantage - being a heterosexual male as well being part of the ethnic/racial majority, AND having linguistic privilege. I'd have FAR more sympathy for him if he were, say African-American and facing discrimination anywhere; or even if he were just an ordinary white guy who got shafted in Asia. Besides if he was really serious about getting a job he could always work at McDonald's or something. You know, I didn't want to say this, but reverse discrimination certainly exists in my current country. You're required to submit ID when you apply for certain jobs (you blur out all essential information except for your name and DOB). Let's say that a local-looking (Asian-American) guy and a foreign-looking (European-American or African-American) guy apply for the same job with the same credentials. Nine times out of ten, they'll pick the "foreign-looking" guy for the diversity factor/to look more "international". Before working at this job, I worked as a public speaking coach who taught people how to, among other things, express themselves better in English. I'd also coach people on interviews so they could get jobs in foreign companies. I had a very high success rate. Yet despite that, I was told that because I was who I am, my pay cap was set at approx. $16.75 an hour (US). And I still had to pay for my visa out of pocket, and received no benefits. Meanwhile, "foreign-looking" teachers START at $22.00 an hour (US) with benefits, provided that they have a bachelor's degree of any kind "in progress" and regardless of experience. I wouldn't consider it privilege when with all my experience, education, and on-the-job results, the maximum I can make is still less than someone's minimum. Also, I couldn't work at McDonald's because you don't get a work visa for that kind of job. Edited December 9, 2015 by h57zf Link to post Share on other sites
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