Craig Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Does anyone who is against prostitution have a feasible AND viable solution to what they perceive as the problem? Link to post Share on other sites
Author mixwell Posted June 10, 2005 Author Share Posted June 10, 2005 Originally posted by Craig Does anyone who is against prostitution have a feasible AND viable solution to what they perceive as the problem? of course not or they would have alread posted it !! haha Link to post Share on other sites
Ladyjane14 Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Originally posted by mixwell of course not or they would have alread posted it !! haha I wouldn't have thought that it would be strictly necessary to suggest that maybe people could untilize self-control, personal responsibility, or maybe even good citizenship. That seems fairly obvious to me, but.....since you insist..... Keep it in your pants, and utilize some SELF-CONTROL, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, or GOOD CITIZENSHIP. Maybe you'll meet a nice girl someday....and then you'll be glad you did. Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Originally posted by Ladyjane14 Keep it in your pants, and utilize some SELF-CONTROL, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, or GOOD CITIZENSHIP. I guess I should have placed a little emphasis on realistic. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by Ladyjane14 I wouldn't have thought that it would be strictly necessary to suggest that maybe people could untilize self-control, personal responsibility, or maybe even good citizenship. That seems fairly obvious to me, but.....since you insist..... Keep it in your pants, and utilize some SELF-CONTROL, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, or GOOD CITIZENSHIP. Maybe you'll meet a nice girl someday....and then you'll be glad you did. Ladyjane I respect your posts but this makes no sense. I would have thought you would be a little more aware of human nature than this post suggests. Since ancient times, philosophers have been aware of this. "Law and morality may succeed for a time in holding human appetites, ambitions and propensities in check, but when opportunities arise, they will break out again from the depths of the human heart." -- Theophrastus Link to post Share on other sites
dawn duval Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by Craig Does anyone who is against prostitution have a feasible AND viable solution to what they perceive as the problem? masturbation? it's free too Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by dawn duval masturbation? it's free too I think masturbation has been around about as long as prostitution and neither has gone away. Give us a solution that will work. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I'm not supporting his activities. But I accept that there are things that I find abhorent that go on, and that I have no control over it, and my solution would be the decriminalization (if not he legalization) of prostitution. Being that it has existed for so very long, I doubt it will go away. Harm reduction is an important goal. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Spock Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 And I DO agree with you BO-I just don't think he should be applauded for his actions. Link to post Share on other sites
millefiori Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Mr Spock, kudos for standing up against so many people here. Prostitution is part of human history and right now it doesn't look like it will stop very soon in the future. There will always be men who have needs that they can't get met in any other ways than by going to a professional who gets paid to get laid (no pun intended). I pity those guys and I pity the women. There's nothing great about having to pay to have sex with a woman. Mixwell's posted about his experience as if it was gread accomplishement. He even put up a picture with this girl and told everybody how pretty she was. If he had picked her up at a club I would say, great, he didn't though and I find it a bit offensive to put her picture up like a trophy. He paid for a service, he got it and that's it. There's absolutely nothing to be proud about it. Prostitution is a necessary evil, nothing more nothing less, and everybody who defends it so fiercely should ask himself if he wanted his mother, daughter or sister work in this profession. Would anybody seriously consider dating a prostitute? Or pay her the same respect as to any other woman? Is there anybody here who would like to have a brothrel in the neighborhood, next to his home? Prostitution is a dirty business where many women get exploited and are driven into because of hopeless economic conditions and no man should pretend that it's physical pleasure that makes these women open their legs. They do it, because you paid money that they desperately need, they need it so much to give up their dignity and pride to agree to an act that has nothing to do anymore with pleasure or love but is rather repulsive fulfillment of someone else's need. If they had a choice, they would not look at you twice. Link to post Share on other sites
ConfusedInOC Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Prostitution is a necessary evil!? Now I've heard it all. One day I was flipping through channels and there was a special on about these porn stars who got Aids. They don't see prostitution (and that's basically what Porn is) as a necessary evil. They see it as their deaths..... Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by ConfusedInOC Prostitution is a necessary evil!? Come up with a good/realistic/workable/affordable way to get rid of Prostitution... then we'll talk. They don't see prostitution (and that's basically what Porn is) as a necessary evil. They see it as their deaths..... There are other more legit professions that cause death too. Airline pilot, crab fisherman, construction worker, infantryman, etc.... Link to post Share on other sites
millefiori Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 There will be always men who are lonely, socially inept, horny and a lot of other things that drive them to prostitutes. If you can stop their misery and raging hormones you are on your best way to battle this problem, but you can't. There's a market for it, simple as it is, there's supply and demand. It's there and it will stay, but there's nothing to be proud about it. Link to post Share on other sites
ConfusedInOC Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale Come up with a good/realistic/workable/affordable way to get rid of Prostitution... then we'll talk. You act as if there is no alternative. There are many, many good alternatives. There are other more legit professions that cause death too. Airline pilot, crab fisherman, construction worker, infantryman, etc.... It's not about causing death. It's the moral and ethical issues. Being an airline pilot or crab fisherman is not morally or ethically wrong. Being a prostitute is. I guess if a woman doesn't love, value or respect herself she can fall into the myth that it's a necessarily evil. If she can live with herself for doing so, so be it. God is the judge of them, not I. Link to post Share on other sites
millefiori Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by ConfusedInOC I guess if a woman doesn't love, value or respect herself she can fall into the myth that it's a necessarily evil. If she can live with herself for doing so, so be it. What kind of nonsense is this again? Men just don't understand this, because no woman who has a little bit of common sense would pay for having sex with a guy. God is the judge of them, not I. Are you hiding behind God or what?? If you want to be judgemental, go ahead, you've betrayed yourself already with this sentence. If you want to degrade them to human beings of second class and call them candidates for hell go ahead and spit it out instead of being a pharisee and pushing God to do the dirty job. Wasn't it Jesus who forgave Magdalena for being a sinner? Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by millefiori Are you hiding behind God or what?? yes MILLEFIORI, if God was so perfect and omnipotent then there would be no prostituiion, pain, suffering, wars, famine, pestilence, disease, substance abuse, mental illness or any of that other crap. The world and humans are extremely imperfect, even disfunctional.... and it was all created by our "God". Well you know what.... God is getting a D minus on my report card. Link to post Share on other sites
sarah12 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale Well you know what.... God is getting a D minus on my report card. lol that's cute, alpha. Link to post Share on other sites
nightwish33150 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by millefiori What kind of nonsense is this again? Men just don't understand this, because no woman who has a little bit of common sense would pay for having sex with a guy. Are you hiding behind God or what?? If you want to be judgemental, go ahead, you've betrayed yourself already with this sentence. If you want to degrade them to human beings of second class and call them candidates for hell go ahead and spit it out instead of being a pharisee and pushing God to do the dirty job. Wasn't it Jesus who forgave Magdalena for being a sinner? yes but she stop doing what she was doing, unlike these women now and yes it's sin to have unmarried sex Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyWheat Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale yes MILLEFIORI, if God was so perfect and omnipotent then there would be no prostituiion, pain, suffering, wars, famine, pestilence, disease, substance abuse, mental illness or any of that other crap. The world and humans are extremely imperfect, even disfunctional.... and it was all created by our "God". Well you know what.... God is getting a D minus on my report card. God . . . . . . Gave . . . . . Us . . . . . FREE WILL ...that is why there is " prostituiion , pain, suffering, wars, famine, pestilence, disease, substance abuse, mental illness and all that other crap" Link to post Share on other sites
Sal Paradise Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 That god also said you shouldn't eat shell fish or wear clothing that is made of certain materials and all other kinds of wacky crap in Leviticus including the homophobic statements. I distrust any book that claims to be about love and teaches bigotry and sexism. Prostitution may be immoral to some of you but your morals are just that YOUR morals. Not everyone see's the world the same way as you. My morals tell me that preventing two people who love each other from marrying is wrong. Not everyone will see the world as you do. The problem is some on the christian right (and even muslims) want to force everyone to live in a world that represents their ideal of morality. Link to post Share on other sites
millefiori Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Originally posted by HoneyWheat ...that is why there is " prostituiion , pain, suffering, wars, famine, pestilence, disease, substance abuse, mental illness and all that other crap" The problem is not that some people choose by their own free will to sin, the problem is that the consequences of their actions are borne by people who are innocent. If people would just sit at home alone and quietly sin in their beds nobody would complain, it's when they go out and inflict pain on other people that makes people doubt God's charity and kindness. Link to post Share on other sites
Author mixwell Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 Now that religion is brought into this I think I am pretty much done with this thread.. Its a ridiculous point. I am proud of what I did to for the record.. I did what I wanted to do and fulfill something I have wanted to do.. I am working on getting a g/f btw.. For those that think its desperate and blah blah blah thats great.. That is YOUR opinions.. I wanted to get laid and I did.. It was a cool experience for me.. I am not going as far as being biased and a bigot.. I am not going trying to force my morals and opinions on other people like some people on this post. Its funny how people tell you something isn't right or morally right or whatever. I don't think one time on this thread have i tried to make anything I said a fact or force someone to think my way. (correct me if I am wrong) Its like if one of you posted how you went out to dinner and ate the best steak of your life and I came on here saying it is wrong because an animal died to please you and feed you. That would be my opinion and someone would say there is nothing wrong with it.. All the arguments on here have been biased.. There have been no facts or anything on here to backup any statements.. The only thing you can say is that prostitution is illegal and that is it so stop trying to bring religion and morals into it because it is all YOUR own opinions. I don't know this post is pointless but its 7:30am and im tired, but wanted to post.. Oh yeah I went to Vegas this weekend.. Is anyone going to say how wrong it was for me to gamble too ?? haha.. That was the first time I have ever been.. It was cool as hell.. Maybe I should start another thread about it.. ok im going to stop now because I am rambling on about stupid crap. PS. Please don't bring in your religious point of views into this thread.. It shows people how weak your arguments are by using god as a reason its wrong or whatever.. Peace Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Originally posted by ConfusedInOC You act as if there is no alternative. There are many, many good alternatives. ConfusedInOC, you're beating a dead horse here. Masturbation, repenting, self flagelation, etc. ad nauseum have been tried and based on results failed miserably. Alpha said, "Come up with a good/realistic/workable/affordable way to get rid of Prostitution... then we'll talk." and so far no one has come up with anything at all. Zero, nada, zip. Link to post Share on other sites
mental_traveller Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Charlie Sheen was once asked why he used prostitutes. His reply? "I don't pay to have sex with women. I pay them to leave in the morning" Link to post Share on other sites
Author mixwell Posted June 15, 2005 Author Share Posted June 15, 2005 Charlie Sheen was once asked why he used prostitutes. His reply? "I don't pay to have sex with women. I pay them to leave in the morning" Thats a good one. Link to post Share on other sites
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