Kaiten Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I have a fairly demanding job and I often don't get off work until 1am. I never get to sleep for more than 3 or so hours at a time EVER. My roommate's 2 dogs might literally be mentally retarded because they just bark at each other. Every single morning I wake up to this annoying, high-pitched squeaking sound, that makes me think about killing his dogs, and how satisfying it'd be to see them get ran over by a car or something. Even when I'm not asleep, I can hear the dogs barking through my headphones. Sometimes I can't hear things directly in front of me because of this. My main issue is that I just want to stop being awakened by those dogs it's so f%cking annoying Link to post Share on other sites
lollipopspot Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Every single morning I wake up to this annoying, high-pitched squeaking sound, that makes me think about killing his dogs, and how satisfying it'd be to see them get ran over by a car or something. If you have that level of anger, you need to move and get your own apartment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden2 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Talk to your room-mate. They should be more considerate. I mean, if you live under one roof, it's give and take. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 All associations are voluntary. The dogs are animals. They have hard-wired brains and have no awareness that they're waking you up or otherwise annoying you. If negotiation with the humans is ineffective, and you don't own the property, leave. If you do, kick them out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 The dogs aren't retarded. The need to be properly trained and cared for - sounds like your flatmate is remiss in their dog care. You have three choices: 1. talk with your flatmate about training the dogs. 2. you move out. 3. they move out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Amelie1980 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I'd set a really loud alarm clock for a time when I am at work and he is asleep. Or Id move out. Link to post Share on other sites
Fleur de cactus Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Let your roommate know how you feel. Then, if the problem is not resolved, one of you will have to move out. I hope it is not you. Good luck. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 If that sort of thing really sets you off, you need to live alone out in the country with no animals around. Apartments are always noisy with kids and sometimes pets, there's a dog in every backyard in the suburbs and people more to the suburbs specifically so their dogs and kids can play outside and be noisy. I grew up under an air force base during the sonic boom testing of the 1950s and 1960s. Depending which way the wind was blowing low flying planes and jets would go right over our house, rattling the windows day and night. It would usually make me wake up momentarily but then I'd go right back to sleep and I actually found it somewhat reassuring. There's a study that came out people around commercial airports constantly complaining about the noise (which isn't even as bad as military aircraft noise) and someone noticed that people around the area of the bases (we were not military, just right outside the base) never complained about the noise. But those who moved next to a commercial airport always did. They found that people don't complain about noise they accept as necessary, but complain loudly about noise they think is unnecessary. People in the community around the air force base were largely reliant on the base for employment but also learned respect for the military. People who voluntarily moved to the zone around a commercial airport and then complained about it as if it was anyone's fault but their own were probably mostly mad at themselves and need to shut up or move. Pets need to live somewhere. There's millions of them put down every single week in the US. You're the one keeping late hours. I am not judging you for that because for many years, that was me and I too had a neighbor upstairs who'd put her poor dog out on the balcony to pee in the morning before work instead of taking the poor thing for a real walk and he'd just bark and bark. But I felt sorry for the dog and did complain, but I complained about her not taking her dog for walks, not that he was barking. Other studies have shown that it's a mistake for parents to always "be quiet" so the baby can sleep. Baby's can sleep through literally anything and if you overreact and try to stay quiet, all you are doing is creating an ultrasensitive baby when what you want is the opposite. So always keep your normal volume and everything going around babies for best results. You don't want them growing up angry at every sound. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
anika99 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Other studies have shown that it's a mistake for parents to always "be quiet" so the baby can sleep. Baby's can sleep through literally anything and if you overreact and try to stay quiet, all you are doing is creating an ultrasensitive baby when what you want is the opposite. So always keep your normal volume and everything going around babies for best results. You don't want them growing up angry at every sound. I couldn't agree with this more. My first baby brother was born when I was 13 and I remember my mom always insisting on total quiet whenever she put him down to sleep. She would meet me at the door, shushing me, she put up do not knock or ring doorbell signs on the front door and she wanted to get rid of the dog because if anyone did come to the door he would bark. As a result my baby brother would wake up at every single little noise and my mom was always upset and stressing everyone else out because of it. In contrast my oldest son was born premature and with medical problems, so he had to spend six week in the hospital after his birth. The neo-natal unit was always loud and busy. Lights always on, babies crying, people talking, machines beeping and buzzing. When I finally brought him home he could literally sleep through any and every noise. At no time did I ever have to be quiet to get him to sleep. He would be playing on a blanket with people talking and the stereo or tv on and when he got tired he would just pass out right where he was. When my second son was born I deliberately duplicated that by always been as noisy as I usually was and I often put him down for his nap in the living room while everyone else in the room just went about their business as usual. He was sleeping through noisy situations in no time. On the other hand I really do think people need to be considerate of other people and do their best to keep their pets quiet. Right now I'm in a similar situation with my downstairs neighbor. He recently moved in and has a cute black dog that looks a lot like my dog. However he leaves him alone sometimes and the dog barks. I really don't care about the barking during normal hours but sometimes the dog is barking a 1 and 2 AM which either wakes me up or prevents me from falling asleep in the first place. I have talked to him about it numerous times, made helpful suggestions like getting the dog a citronella spray collar or even leaving the dog with me. So far nothing has changed and I'm at my wits end. I agree that we have to put up with a certain amount of noise since we are sharing a building but I don't think I have to accept a barking at all hours of the night. Even during the day I try to keep my dog quiet and put a stop to his barking. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yes, everyone needs to do what's in their power to minimize annoyances. People with dogs (they all bark) will complain about people with screaming kids and people with screaming kids will complain about people with dogs. Everyone is just very self-centric. Everything can't be totally controlled, but most people can train their kids not to shriek once they're not little babies anymore and if dogs get enough interaction and exercise and aren't left alone with no one or other dog to pack up with, they aren't quite as barky, though protecting the territory is something they feel they must do , whether it's sound of footsteps or a squirrel or another dog or cat. People who just adapt to real life will live a happier life than those letting every little thing stress them out. I have lots of sleep disturbances so I go to bed earlier. What kills me is the same people who are perfectly content having a half-dozen kids and people living in their home, where it's never quiet, will complain about jets or dogs or something external. It can't compare to the loud incessant den of a houseful of kids. Link to post Share on other sites
KittyKat67 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 If you have that level of anger, you need to move and get your own apartment. and your still living there because...... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kaiten Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 We aren't talking about letting a baby sleep soundly 100% of the time. We aren't talking about a baby at all. I am talking about a whiny ass dog that wakes me up every day no matter when it is I am sleeping. I can sleep for 3 hours max, and I'm often woken up right after falling asleep. I rarely complain about really anything before it reaches an extreme. I've talked on here before about another roommate who couldn't have his GF over 3 or 4 times out of the week. She had to be there EVERY DAY ALL DAY. The question I'd like to pose is: Must I be wakened so erratically every single day by this? Clearly, you guys favor animals. I am perfectly okay with pets, but not when they interfere with the lives of residents. Like how people let their dogs s#!t everywhere on the sidewalk (instead of right there in the grass), and piss on the wooden deck til it reeks outside. I agree with you all who say I should live by myself. I am working on that trust me. At the same time, I really do not think that I ask much. I only get mad about something when it reaches the most extreme it can reach. Like a GF there every single day, or me being awakened every single day. Link to post Share on other sites
Standard-Fare Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 The question I'd like to pose is: Must I be wakened so erratically every single day by this? As long as you live there, I'm afraid the answer is probably yes. There just isn't a simple solution to this problem. Your roommate could hire a trainer, or go more intense with training/discipline himself, but there's never going to be a guarantee that the dogs' behavior will improve to your satisfaction. Living with dogs ALWAYS comes with disruptions, annoyances, and compromises. In this case, you have a choice whether to live with these dogs. You clearly don't want to, so the answer is, find another living option. Link to post Share on other sites
angel.eyes Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 It's tough to be chronically sleep-deprived! I'm not sure where you're located, but in the cities I've lived in, most apartment complexes don't allow dogs. Pets, particularly dogs are going to make some noise. That's their nature. At this point, the only reasonable solution may be for one of you to move. When does your lease end? Are you both on the lease? Are you allowed to sublet? If so, find someone to take your spot and leave. Link to post Share on other sites
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