Is online dating turning girls into escorts?

[oregon0011]

Well like someone said before, if a guy is willing to pay for everything only to have a gold digger give him blow jobs everyday, why are you so concerned??

 

Nobody is forcing these men to create these profiles. Yes these girls are disgusting but you know what is even more disgusting?? The fact that these men could have be in healthy relationships with decent women who are not after their money but instead they decide to be with a gold digger just because of SEX.

 

That's even more shocking. Think about that.

 

I think you still don't get my point...I dont find them anymore disgusting than girls who have sex for free with guys...

 

The point is that good looking girls are in high demand.. They are vacating traditional sites and moving to sites where they get paid.. It is quick and easy.. They can pick who they date just like on any traditional site..

 

You are confusing this with escorts back in the day, who had to date anyone who paid because it was their job...

[oregon0011]

No, you missed the point of what I was saying by filling demand. The sites were created because the demand was already there. If there wasn't a lot of that already happening, the sites wouldn't have been created. People were just using different methods before the sites existed.

 

The demand is greater now...

 

Look... Any guy can now sit at his computer, scan 500 women, and make an offer... 20 years ago this was IMPOSSIBLE...

 

Similarly, I think we can all say porn is more rampant now than before the internet, no? Well so is paying for sex.

 

Or are you saying people viewed the exact same amount of porn 20 years ago?

[The Way I Am]

The point is that good looking girls are in high demand.. They are vacating traditional sites and moving to sites where they get paid.. It is quick and easy.. They can pick who they date just like on any traditional site...

 

What is your evidence that this is actually happening? Just your personal observations or is there a study that indicates that significant numbers of attractive women are leaving traditional dating sites for sugar daddy type sites?

 

Because if it's just your personal observations, you're probably trying to analyze a phenomenon that doesn't exist.

[GingerVixen]

I think you still don't get my point...I dont find them anymore disgusting than girls who have sex for free with guys...

 

The point is that good looking girls are in high demand.. They are vacating traditional sites and moving to sites where they get paid.. It is quick and easy.. They can pick who they date just like on any traditional site..

 

You are confusing this with escorts back in the day, who had to date anyone who paid because it was their job...

 

They ARE NOT leaving regular dating websites and moving to these "sugar daddies" meeting points JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE WEBSITES FOR IT. Women are not that dumb. The girls who did that have always been gold diggers. They were in regular dating websites looking for sugar daddies too. Now that there is a gold digger meeting point, they're there. But they didn't think "oh I used to love men for who they really are, but now that there are websites for sugar daddies well I think I want a sugar daddy too!" IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

 

I am considered very attractive by many men. Am I moving from OkCupid to one of these gold digger meeting points? NO!! Why?? Because I am not a gold digger!!!

You're obsessed with this!

 

If I wanted to be a gold digger I wouldn't need a website for that! I would just go to a bar and meet a guy and pamper his ego, tell him what he wants to hear, have sex like a porn star and have him pay for everything. NO WEBSITE NEEDED FOR THAT. WEBSITES DO NOT MAKE WOMEN DO ANYTHING THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[oregon0011]

They ARE NOT leaving regular dating websites and moving to these "sugar daddies" meeting points JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE WEBSITES FOR IT. Women are not that dumb. The girls who did that have always been gold diggers. They were in regular dating websites looking for sugar daddies too. Now that there is a gold digger meeting point, they're there. But they didn't think "oh I used to love men for who they really are, but now that there are websites for sugar daddies well I think I want a sugar daddy too!" IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

 

I am considered very attractive by many men. Am I moving from OkCupid to one of these gold digger meeting points? NO!! Why?? Because I am not a gold digger!!!

You're obsessed with this!

 

If I wanted to be a gold digger I wouldn't need a website for that! I would just go to a bar and meet a guy and pamper his ego, tell him what he wants to hear, have sex like a porn star and have him pay for everything. NO WEBSITE NEEDED FOR THAT. WEBSITES DO NOT MAKE WOMEN DO ANYTHING THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.

 

A. I didn't say every girl..

 

B. I didn't say a certain website, lol.. I said the internet in general.

 

C. Having a guy buy you drinks at a bar is totally different.

 

And actually, they aren't "gold diggers"... or "prostitutes" or "escorts" really..

 

They are regular girls, with regular jobs who find an extra way to make some side cash...They dont even have to have sex...They are paid to just show up, as I pointed out, guys (with money) are tired of begging on traditional sites and this is a quick and easy way to get dates..

[GingerVixen]

A. I didn't say every girl..

 

B. I didn't say a certain website, lol.. I said the internet in general.

 

C. Having a guy buy you drinks at a bar is totally different.

 

And actually, they aren't "gold diggers"... or "prostitutes" or "escorts" really..

 

They are regular girls, with regular jobs who find an extra way to make some side cash...They dont even have to have sex...They are paid to just show up, as I pointed out, guys (with money) are tired of begging on traditional sites and this is a quick and easy way to get dates..

 

Oh man you are completely clueless about the dating world. Seriously, you don't even know how women manipulate men.

 

I am not talking about having a guy buy you a drink at a bar either. I am talking about meeting a guy at a bar, and quickly make him become your sugar daddy in a matter of days. Men buying you jewelry only because they like your blowjobs. That's what I am talking about. AND ANY REGULAR GIRL, WITH A REGULAR JOB CAN DO THAT. She just have to find the right fool who is willing to pamper her while she rides him.

 

Now please enough of this... You're creating something that doesn't exist. Enough

[oregon0011]

Oh man you are completely clueless about the dating world. Seriously, you don't even know how women manipulate men.

 

I am not talking about having a guy buy you a drink at a bar either. I am talking about meeting a guy at a bar, and quickly make him become your sugar daddy in a matter of days. Men buying you jewelry only because they like your blowjobs. That's what I am talking about. AND ANY REGULAR GIRL, WITH A REGULAR JOB CAN DO THAT. She just have to find the right fool who is willing to pamper her while she rides him.

 

Now please enough of this... You're creating something that doesn't exist. Enough

 

Would we say now there are more girls that make money web camming than before the internet? Obviously...Sure, I guess "there were peep shows before" would be the argument that I am wrong?

 

Once again, this isn't dating a guy from a bar and hopefully a guy buys you jewelry... It is placing an ad or making a profile, and you can pick any guy that responds to go out with.. And the girl gets paid.. yes, more and more young girls are doing this than their were professional escorts 20 years ago.. Why is this so hard to believe?

 

I mean I have eyes and have seen the sites. And yes, still other girls wlk the street.. And other girls use your bar method.. but the internet opened up this field to make it far easier and less time consuming than for a girl to go to several bars until she finds a guy that will buy her jewlery.

[losangelena]

Besides, aren't most of the "girls" on these escort site fake/bots, anyway?

[losangelena]

I mean I have eyes and have seen the sites. And yes, still other girls wlk the street.. And other girls use your bar method.. but the internet opened up this field to make it far easier and less time consuming than for a girl to go to several bars until she finds a guy that will buy her jewlery.

 

OK, but do you actually know a flesh-and-blood woman who's done this?

 

Because, "I'm going to make a profile on an escort site because I just really want some new pricey jewelry" is something that I've heard no woman say ever.

 

I feel like you've got some pretty skewed ideas of women and sex, I'm sorry.

[GingerVixen]

Would we say now there are more girls that make money web camming than before the internet? Obviously...Sure, I guess "there were peep shows before" would be the argument that I am wrong?

 

Once again, this isn't dating a guy from a bar and hopefully a guy buys you jewelry... It is placing an ad or making a profile, and you can pick any guy that responds to go out with.. And the girl gets paid.. yes, more and more young girls are doing this than their were professional escorts 20 years ago.. Why is this so hard to believe?

 

I mean I have eyes and have seen the sites. And yes, still other girls wlk the street.. And other girls use your bar method.. but the internet opened up this field to make it far easier and less time consuming than for a girl to go to several bars until she finds a guy that will buy her jewlery.

 

That is something YOU THINK that is happening. I am tired of this discussion. Have a good night

[oregon0011]

Besides, aren't most of the "girls" on these escort site fake/bots, anyway?

 

Why is it so hard to believe that many attractive girls are open to the idea of getting money for dates? I mean seriously? Attractive Women do not like money and they are all rich? Attractive women all want to pay half on dates?

[Rejected Rosebud]

LOL, I am not playing with words... Instead of going on a POF date, they go on a date where they get paid... Ok, fine, their are more gold diggers now... Young pretty women realize they can get paid to go on a date instead of going for free...

A person selling themselves for companionship or sex is not in the same mindset as one who is looking for a boyfriend - young and pretty or not. Believe me, if you're a young, pretty girl you don't need the Internet to know that there are many men who want to have sex with you and that some of them would pay for it. That's not exactly enticing to many of us!!

[oregon0011]

OK, but do you actually know a flesh-and-blood woman who's done this?

 

Because, "I'm going to make a profile on an escort site because I just really want some new pricey jewelry" is something that I've heard no woman say ever.

 

I feel like you've got some pretty skewed ideas of women and sex, I'm sorry.

 

I never heard that either.. I never heard a woman say "i will blow guys from the bar to get jewelry"

 

Lol... Thats my point.. Yes, and I know tons of guys that use those sites.. I heard all their stories..

[losangelena]

Why is it so hard to believe that many attractive girls are open to the idea of getting money for dates? I mean seriously? Attractive Women do not like money and they are all rich? Attractive women all want to pay half on dates?

 

There is not an eye roll emoji big enough to encapsulate my feelings about this statement.

 

No. I know ZERO women who think it's a morally correct thing to do to go on dates for money. The women I know go on dates to connect and to hopefully find a life partner. The attractive, college-educated women I know like to use their brains and their talents and passions to earn a living, not just their looks.

[oregon0011]

There is not an eye roll emoji big enough to encapsulate my feelings about this statement.

 

No. I know ZERO women who think it's a morally correct thing to do to go on dates for money. The women I know go on dates to connect and to hopefully find a life partner. The attractive, college-educated women I know like to use their brains and their talents and passions to earn a living, not just their looks.

 

And your circle of friends is how big? And if they were they would tell you?

 

The sites exist, they are real, and I know lots of guys that use them.. I also see these girls on craigslist, pof, tinder, match etc etc... Along with the aforementioned sugar daddy type sites..

[losangelena]

And your circle of friends is how big? And if they were they would tell you?

 

The sites exist, they are real, and I know lots of guys that use them.. I also see these girls on craigslist, pof, tinder, match etc etc... Along with the aforementioned sugar daddy type sites..

 

OK, that's fine.

 

I don't know why ANY of this matters to your situation as a single man.

 

I'm done talking about this because I think it's ridiculous.

 

Peace out.

[oregon0011]

OK, that's fine.

 

I don't know why ANY of this matters to your situation as a single man.

 

I'm done talking about this because I think it's ridiculous.

 

Peace out.

 

How Sugar Daddies Are Financing College Education - The Atlantic

 

In 2013, Seeking Arrangement announced that approximately 44 percent of its 2.3 million “babies” are in college.

 

Ummmm. That's quite a few on just one website.

[hasaquestion]

Call me an evil capitalist goon or a heartless a**hole if you want.

 

But aren't most human interactions some form of exchange? I help you with Math, you help me with English. I make you laugh, you make me laugh. You get me horny, I f**k you. I brighten your day, you brighten mine.

 

People have needs of all kinds. You can call me a sociopath for thinking this way but people's interactions can be largely understood as mutually beneficial exchanges. We can give a million things like a nice smile and a six-pack and get sex in return. But when its legal tender.... then kittens must be dying somewhere.

 

If John and Jane are both happier if John gives Jane $20 for a BJ, whatever. I would never do it but I'm not going to tell them how to live their lives.

[oregon0011]

Call me an evil capitalist goon or a heartless a**hole if you want.

 

But aren't most human interactions some form of exchange? I help you with Math, you help me with English. I make you laugh, you make me laugh. You get me horny, I f**k you. I brighten your day, you brighten mine.

 

People have needs of all kinds. You can call me a sociopath for thinking this way but people's interactions can be largely understood as mutually beneficial exchanges. We can give a million things like a nice smile and a six-pack and get sex in return. But when its legal tender.... then kittens must be dying somewhere.

 

If John and Jane are both happier if John gives Jane $20 for a BJ, whatever. I would never do it but I'm not going to tell them how to live their lives.

 

I don't care either...Just pointing out millions of young women are being fundamentally changed by equating sex directly with money, and the internet facilitates this..Instead of working part time at McDonalds they date an older guy..

 

 

20 years ago they couldn't sit down and within 5 minutes have tons of rich guys offering them credit cards..

[smackie9]

Not all those girls CHOOSE to be prostitutes on the internet....a very large portion of them are forced into it. The internet is a tool for organized crime to make more money.

[Rejected Rosebud]

I am sure that sugar daddies are financing college educations for "babies" (:sick: the baby/daddy terms just :sick: sounds incestuous) all over the place!! Good for them all, if that's what they want! I don't think those girls got "turned into escorts by the Internet" though. Just, the Internet makes it easier to learn about it and do it, if that's what you want to do.

 

Any girl who is on a dating site because she is looking for a relationship is not going to be thinking along the lines of "why should I be going on this date for free if I could get paid for it." That is quite insulting. Why don't you think that women are capable of looking for something besides money?? If the tables are turned, a guy who is looking for a girlfriend is unlikely to be calling an escort service. If he's looking to pay for sex and / or companionship, he might do that. But if he's looking for a relationship, he is probably going to be dating just like girls will.

[StBreton]

I don't care either...Just pointing out millions of young women are being fundamentally changed by equating sex directly with money, and the internet facilitates this..Instead of working part time at McDonalds they date an older guy..

 

Hey the pay is better and the fringe benefits

 

20 years ago they couldn't sit down and within 5 minutes have tons of rich guys offering them credit cards..

 

Really? I remember dating 20 years ago...in a very large metro area...if a beautiful young woman went to an upscale bar, she'd have lots of guys surrounding her buying drinks ... and one thing leads to another. The internet hasn't changed anything...just made it more out in the open/obvious for those not in major urban areas...and perhaps more prevalent...the access is far greater with the advent of the internet. **If you ever spent time around the Financial Districts in Chicago or NY back in the 80s/early 90s ... you'd see the traders offering beautiful girls all sorts of things...and there was definitely "exchange" of commodities ...the money flying around:eek:

 

Little has changed OP. Do you feel insecure somehow because you feel you can't compete or there is some unfair competition due to the money aspect...with regard to your perception that women are flocking to men with resources and you aren't getting a fair shot? What's got you so concerned OP?

 

I do feel OLD has changed dating as far as it leading to a higher prevalence of GIGS.

Edited December 29, 2015 by StBreton

[SmartDude]

I have visited 25 or more escorts. Some of them have become good friends spanning years..So I can speak from experience and not just speculation.

 

Yes it is becoming a lot more common. The internet is helping facilitate this. The internet is not evil in itself. TCP/IP just allows people with computers to communicate ideas to each other over long distances instantly. Please do not blame technology.

 

There are many different types of escorts and the bottom line is not always money. Some young women do it because they are bored. Some want to experience a man outside their normal age range/dating circle. You might find another escort doing it purely because she loves her children and wants them to have a better life. Some do it as a way to become liberated for a few years out of their lives because sex and money together is just fantastic!

 

The truth is that escorting is not an easy job. As a woman, you have to give sexual experiences to men that are not very attractive sometimes. That is were the money comes in as a great motivator. Some women are GREAT at the job and can look past peoples insecurities and imperfections. God bless america for these few, but I don't think the civilian dating pool is going to be greatly reduced any time soon:)

[JGirl83]

The internet makes things easier in this sense. But there will only be supply if there is demand. Is online dating so hard for men that more and more resorts to offering money? And girls see easy money and even though they never previously considered prostitution now they go into it? I dont know.

I dont think men need to beg for dates. I date average-good looking guys, not models. And im also average-good looking. Maybe the problem is that men want to date young beautiful women despite of them not being young and beautiful. So this is not about men being tired of begging for dates. They could date someone in their league.

There are girls who are on traditional dating sites and still get offers. I know, i do. I dont need the money and im looking for love so this is not for me. There are girls who want to date someone who doesnt buy their affection, you can find threads on this site, they will go to great lenghts to go halves on dates etc.

So no, i dont think a girl who signs up on a dating site to genuinely find love will have a lightbulb moment and go" jeez, it is so easy to prostitute myself. Lets forget about love and go on paid dates with men who are so desperare for beautiful women that they are willing to pay."

Maybe women who were on the site for fun to start with but i dont think that it is the majority. I dont see this as a mass movement.

 

Furthermore, im not sure why girls who get paid for sex cant have a solid work ethic ( having sex with men i dont like or forcing myself to go on dates with guys who i feel i need to entertain because he paid me sounds like hard work to me!)...

or an emotional attachement to a husband later on in life.

After reading the last paragraph i feel this is just another one of your woman-bashing threads

Edited December 29, 2015 by JGirl83

[MoreAmore]

I actually know women who have been escorts in the past, and women who are sugar babies now.

 

The sugar baby thing is probably a little easier but only to the exact degree dating is easier now. Internet = more exposure to more people, more chance to find the exact thing you're looking for

 

It's not the horrifying collapse of civilization, and it is not changing people's morality or instinct.

 

 

As for me, I would be uncomfortable in a sex for money exchange myself no matter how easy it would be to find someone but I have absolutely no judgment for anyone in any situation approached with honesty. At least with these sites, honesty is encouraged rather than picking up a man and taking him for a ride while he believes one hundred percent that there is complete emotional investment. (This is not to say there can't be any emotional investment; from what I understand, there often is in the sugar daddy/baby scenarios on both ends, albeit not soul mate forever investment.) Why do you care?

 

None of this really effects anyone outside of the scenario of which that is being sought.

 

The attractive girls on the sugar baby sites would not otherwise be lined up at your door begging you to take them out and marry them.