The double standard continues to linger?

[RedRobin]

I don't protect liars at all but I won't drop one of the best friends I have because he is an honest playboy.

 

Uh huh.

 

I dare you to talk to any of his partners. Unless he's getting his action from Craigslist, escorts or the local bar, no way are they knowledgeable participants.

 

One of my guy friends from work had a friend he fondly called 'couch dancing Jeff'. He never introduced me to that guy... He knew what he was about, and called it like it was. Yea, not all guys cover for the womanizers. That's true. Guess what 'couch dancing' is doing these days? Divorced, on an island, makes occasional trips to the mainland after popping a few Viagra. Sounds greeeeeeaaaat!

 

What's your friend's name? Mike? Steve? I propose a new nickname for him should any women you know come across him or ask about him.

[joystickd]

Uh huh.

 

I dare you to talk to any of his partners. Unless he's getting his action from Craigslist, escorts or the local bar, no way are they knowledgeable participants.

 

One of my guy friends from work had a friend he fondly called 'couch dancing Jeff'. He never introduced me to that guy... He knew what he was about, and called it like it was. Yea, not all guys cover for the womanizers. That's true. Guess what 'couch dancing' is doing these days? Divorced, on an island, makes occasional trips to the mainland after popping a few Viagra. Sounds greeeeeeaaaat!

 

What's your friend's name? Mike? Steve? I propose a new nickname for him should any women you know come across him or ask about him.

You don't want that it would destroy your beliefs.

[RedRobin]

You don't want that it would destroy your beliefs.

 

No, actually... I am the one who talks to men's past partners. After I eject him, of course.

 

One example I use here a lot is a guy who claimed this woman was a FWB, but it turned out she thought they were in an exclusive relationship and he was cheating on her. Nice. Sure, it took me awhile to find the right place and right time to find these things out... But I have my ways.

 

Another reason I don't men who have had FWB. It is difficult to tell if it's cover for cheating... Unless I talk to her myself, I don't buy it.

[joystickd]

No, actually... I am the one who talks to men's past partners. After I eject him, of course.

 

One example I use here a lot is a guy who claimed this woman was a FWB, but it turned out she thought they were in an exclusive relationship and he was cheating on her. Nice. Sure, it took me awhile to find the right place and right time to find these things out... But I have my ways.

 

Another reason I don't men who have had FWB. It is difficult to tell if it's cover for cheating... Unless I talk to her myself, I don't buy it.

A lil creepy there. A bit stalkerlike. Lol! You think an ex would give an accurate view of a relationship.

Honestly women need to own up more to the lack of success in their dating/relationships. I work in a female dominated job. I hear men do this and that. It sounds like your monologues. None ever take responsibility because they choose these men. The common denominator it them. I said it and it was like I insulted them. It's funny [you are] judging a man on his past or how you want to come off as strong but love to take the victim role. It's either you are a strong woman or a victim to men and constantly giving monologues about the evils of men.

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[RedRobin]

Nothing stalkerish about it. She and I were minding the same table at a running event. There were three hours to kill.

 

I have another saying... There's his side, her side, and the truth. The truth is usually somewhere in middle. Not much 'middle' in her dating him continuously for three years... While he messed around on the side, lol.

 

Another example... I dated a guy for a few weeks. His stories never quite added up, so I dumped him. He eventually gets married. Two years after he is married, he tries to convince me to have an affair. This was a coworker of mine. So I was right about him. I doubt his wife knows. He has the kind of job that makes it easy to cat around.

 

These women don't deserve to be treated that way. I blame the liar and I will out them anyway I can. That's my job... Since so few other people in this circle want to clue the woman in.

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[joystickd]

Nothing stalkerish about it. She and I were minding the same table at a running event. There were three hours to kill.

 

I have another saying... There's his side, her side, and the truth. The truth is usually somewhere in middle. Not much 'middle' in her dating him continuously for three years... While he messed around on the side, lol.

 

Another example... I dated a guy for a few weeks. His stories never quite added up, so I dumped him. He eventually gets married. Two years after he is married, he tries to convince me to have an affair. This was a coworker of mine. So I was right about him. I doubt his wife knows. He has the kind of job that makes it easy to cat around.

 

These women don't deserve to be treated that way. I blame the liar and I will out them anyway I can. That's my job... Since so few other people in this circle want to clue the woman in.

 

He cats around well that's between him and the women that choose to do it. Then the thing is if you are not there then you don't know if he is lying or not. All you have is your personal experience. Honestly that don't amount to much. If that was all we had to base things on then we would all be single. It's an immature way of thinking

[joystickd]

Nothing stalkerish about it. She and I were minding the same table at a running event. There were three hours to kill.

 

I have another saying... There's his side, her side, and the truth. The truth is usually somewhere in middle. Not much 'middle' in her dating him continuously for three years... While he messed around on the side, lol.

 

Another example... I dated a guy for a few weeks. His stories never quite added up, so I dumped him. He eventually gets married. Two years after he is married, he tries to convince me to have an affair. This was a coworker of mine. So I was right about him. I doubt his wife knows. He has the kind of job that makes it easy to cat around.

 

These women don't deserve to be treated that way. I blame the liar and I will out them anyway I can. That's my job... Since so few other people in this circle want to clue the woman in.

 

It's not your job. Its no ones job. It sounds like you are still bitter about being cheating on. It's time to let it go. What benefit so you get out of it? Why is it so important to you to expose men that are "liars"? What about the woman's role in this? Why stalk and find out about men after you are not seeing them? It's done and time to move on. It sounds like you have issues

[RedRobin]

It's not your job. Its no ones job. It sounds like you are still bitter about being cheating on. It's time to let it go. What benefit so you get out of it? Why is it so important to you to expose men that are "liars"? What about the woman's role in this? Why stalk and find out about men after you are not seeing them? It's done and time to move on. It sounds like you have issues

 

When someone tries to date me, his history becomes my business. I don't date for sport.

 

If he's a womanizer and wants to run around, he's lying to me starting on date two since I tell every man I go on even one date with that I am not interested in that. If he wants something else, he should walk.

 

If he fails to walk after that... Tries to BS me to see what he can get away with like the two guys I mentioned above? Well... Sure I go my own way. But I don't forget. It really is a small world. It's only a matter of time before their lies catch up to them. I just don't look the other way. I'm not about to make life easier for them.

[joystickd]

When someone tries to date me, his history becomes my business. I don't date for sport.

 

If he's a womanizer and wants to run around, he's lying to me starting on date two since I tell every man I go on even one date with that I am not interested in that. If he wants something else, he should walk.

 

If he fails to walk after that... Tries to BS me to see what he can get away with like the two guys I mentioned above? Well... Sure I go my own way. But I don't forget. It really is a small world. It's only a matter of time before their lies catch up to them. I just don't look the other way. I'm not about to make life easier for them.

 

You said you did it after you date them. Which is it?

[Rejected Rosebud]

Typical feminist. It's all the men's fault!

That post you quoted blaming men for things they didn't even do wrong does not have ONE THING to do with feminism.

[Rejected Rosebud]

I'm not blaming men for the fact they are given that pass... Both genders look the other way when it comes to men's behavior. Why we, as a society, set such a low bar for men... At least when it comes to sex and relationships..

Sheesh! Please don't speak for ME when you talk about how we "give men a pass," "look the other way," "set a low bar." I get your belief system but not everybody has embraced puritanism! YOU can hate men and sex all you like but that doesn't mean that your feelings and opinion about those things is "the way it is."

 

It's just people who put such an UGLY stigma on it that make casual sex "bad." It's NOT BAD. I hate that there are some of you who are so determined to keep it in the filthy closet. :(

 

This thread is supposed to be about the double standard, which really does exist because all over LS and in all kinds of places you can see where women are spoken badly of because they had casual sex for fun - by guys who have casual sex for fun with no problem about that.

[Just a Guy]

I'm flabbergasted at reading the debate that is going on here. To my mind men and women are complementary and not adversories unless one particularly wants to view them as such. Neither can exist without the other in the sense that you need both men and women to reproduce the human race.

 

Men are not really from Mars and women are not really from Venus. They are both from planet Earth. The fact is that both men and women inherit genes from both their parents and so both men and women share characteristics common to each other. For instance male and female siblings share a lot of common features. If that be the case why would we think of men and women as being so different from each other that they are placed in an adversarial role. Double standards are just defence mechanisms that people build around themselves like fences to protect their own vulnerabilities and weaknesses. Their propagation is unhealthy and does not speak well of the human race as a whole.

 

In the matter of relationships as I have said before, one needs to carry out a bit of due diligence in assessing if a person of the opposite sex is compatible with them in all respects. In the US you people have a rather well established system of implementing this if it is done properly and that is dating. Like I said before sex should be the last thing to be tried out after having dated a person for a while. First find out if the person gels with one at emotional and intellectual levels. Does one feel a sense of completeness in the company of the other. Ar

e you oriented alike in your goals in life and do your temperaments match to a large extent?

 

What needs to be avoided is infatuation being mistaken for genuine love and compatibility. When most of these yardsticks are met one can try out sexual compatibility in a completely natural and consequential way to the relationship having developed thus far. Unfortunately people are in a tearing hurry as with everything else in their lives and do not take the time and trouble to invest properly in a genuine relationship. That is why there is this heart burning. Also these entrenched views about double standards need to be dropped at the earliest.

 

These are just camouflage for our deeper insecurities which we then try to justify logically and emotionally. I guess some double standards will linger till we as a species, progress to a higher level of intellectual and emotional existence. However, they should be downplayed at all times otherwise we will continue to be governed by them. Hope I made some sense!

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[lino]

Here is what you do take time and look through my post history to prove I defend male bad behavior or the history of any other male on this thread. I've even said this: Here's the problem. You assume these men are covering for their womanizing friends. Unless you are in that circle you don't know what's going on so the beliefs you have are based on negative experiences. Sometimes guys have womanizing friends and those guys are the ones encouraging them to stop their womanizing ways. Sometimes having a womanizing friend helps you see that a relationship is better than just running around. It's easy to say he has it good until you see first hand the complications that arise from it.

 

If you are going to not associate with someone because of who they are friends with then it shows immaturity because you are not there with them and know what's going on.

 

All men don't give womanizers a pass you are generalizing. The above says that. You see this is the problem with this forum as a man I generalize I have committed the most horrible act among women but someone like you does it and women just all on the bandwagon even if men said we don't do that.

 

Furthermore you can't put this all on men. A man can't womanize if women don't enable the behavior a man getting a pass from a man don't really men squat. It has no value what matters is the women that enable the behavior. A big thing I have been saying on LS for a long time is : CHECK YOUR OWN GENDER!!! In the world of dating and relationships not everything can be blamed on the opposite gender. You want it to change then you have to start with your own gender. The very day they stop enabling then womanizing will stop. It's that simple. d

 

Excellent!

 

Unless they're being raped, all the women opening their legs for these player men are doing it by choice. They want the ego boost of porking the guy all her friends want to pork.

 

No sympathy from me once she finds out that indeed he is porking her friends as well.

 

Plenty of non-[promiscuous] guys out there and they're easy to find and get as well. One just has to want to

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[RedRobin]

Sheesh! Please don't speak for ME when you talk about how we "give men a pass," "look the other way," "set a low bar." I get your belief system but not everybody has embraced puritanism! YOU can hate men and sex all you like but that doesn't mean that your feelings and opinion about those things is "the way it is."

 

It's just people who put such an UGLY stigma on it that make casual sex "bad." It's NOT BAD. I hate that there are some of you who are so determined to keep it in the filthy closet. :(

 

This thread is supposed to be about the double standard, which really does exist because all over LS and in all kinds of places you can see where women are spoken badly of because they had casual sex for fun - by guys who have casual sex for fun with no problem about that.

 

This is not about keeping anything in the closet. I don't like liars or hypocrites.

 

I love sex. I love men. What I am tired of are people who are into casual sex claiming they love sex. Having sex with x different people doesn't mean you love sex. It just means you don't care who you have it with.

 

... And that's fine. But men with those values shouldn't be trying to date me, and sure as hell not trying to convince me they want a relationship with me just to see what they can get away with. those are the men I can't stand. The ones who ran around, then try to date me. Screw that. They need to find a woman who shares his values.

 

Don't blame people like me for men having double standards. All I want is a guy who cares who he sleeps with and loves sex...

 

If you want to start a different thread about casual sex, that's fine. I have nothing against people who have casual sex. They need to be upfront from date one though, and not try to BS people that they are looking for a relationship.... When clearly they are not.

 

Womanizers aren't up front about just looking for casual sex. That's the problem. Then they try to date people who aren't into casual sex to see what they can get away with. Or worse, they trash or lie about the women they DO sleep with to cover their tracks. If you ask me, womanizers either hate women or are ashamed of themselves too...else why trash women they sleep with? Why try to date women they have little in common with? Answer... Because it's a power thing. They want to see if they can get away with lying. They enjoy hurting women. Which is why I am suspect of any man who calls a womanizer his friend.

 

I am actually on your side. For instance... If guy claiming to have a former long term FWB, never tried to convince me he wanted a relationship with me (when I could see full well that was BS). I would have no gripes, he'd go his way, I'd go mine. But that's not what happened..

 

After he told me he had a Long term FWB before, I told him I am not interested in that and to leave me alone. He said (quote) I could get a FWB anytime I want. I don't want that with you. (I am thinking... Oh double YUCK. And...BS). I said, ok, then you just go do that. Did he leave me alone? Eventually. That's when I decided to find out about his so called FWB. I was curious to see if I'd made a mistake. But nope. I was right, not only that, she wasn't a FWB. That's how he would have talked about ME if I'd agreed to go along with a 'relationship' with that guy...

 

Same thing with the second guy. We dated a few weeks (dated meaning, no sex) I had a sense he was running around...or not being upfront in his multidating whatever. I cut him loose. When he came around a second time to try to tap that after he was married? Oh, hell no.

 

This is what we, as a society, give men a 'free pass' for. The minute either of these guys learned that I was not into casual, they should have walked... And found women who were into that... But no.

 

Oh wait. I forgot about Mr. Sexy Talk. One date with that guy and, yep, he was upfront about just wanting sex. Does he go his own way when I say no? Nope. He stalks me, blows up my phone, comes to my house.... Did any of our mutual friends clue me in before I agreed to go on a date with that guy? No. THAT is what I am complaining about.

 

If you are gonna be all free love about things, fine. Don't hide it and don't try to date people who don't share your philosophy. Not that tough.

 

There is another poster on here I have a huge amount of respect for. She makes no bones about her tastes and history, and when she was seeking commitment, she chose to look among like minded men who shares her history and kinks. By all counts, she's very happily married now. To me, that's perfect.

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[RedRobin]

It is not that easy to find men who are not into running around. The ones who are into running around, hide it.

 

Lots of other men try to be like the womanizers... Thinking that is something to aspire to... And seem to be in relationships rather grudgingly.

 

It is actually quite hard to find men who sincerely value commitment. And show it in their actions. Those are the only kind of men I care to date. I think I do a better job than many women finding those guys...

 

But the other types? They stand out because of their blatant dishonesty and unwillingness to gracefully go away when they see I am not on the same page as them. I view them as bullies, liars. One I consider a sociopath. Nothing any man should aspire to. Or any sane woman would want to be around. They wouldn't be able to get away with half the shyt they do if their friends didn't cover for them.

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[endlessabyss]

Whatever, your friend is a retard. The double standard is more than men are "like animals".

 

 

Women can get sex whenever they please, due to the way men are hard-wired. We crave sex infinitely more than women; we have testosterone running through our body, not estrogen. A women procuring sex takes absolutely NO (to very minimal) EFFORT!.

 

 

Men have a very hard time procuring sex; hence, them having to develop an unshakable confidence to get it. They must have great social skills, resources, sky high self esteem, and so on. For a man to have sex it takes GREAT EFFORT!

 

 

Furthermore, have you ever noticed that men don't get pregnant, and women do? Are you aware of a thing called gestation? Women are supposed to be more selective, because of the consequences that sex accompanies. With great power come great responsibility.

 

 

I forgot though, modern society has created this poison pill, called "Birth Control", that can be shown to have adverse effects on the natural chemistry in the body. Oh yea, it also shows up in the water we drink, causing more harm to the natural composition.

 

 

It also gives you the freedom to act more irresponsibly.

 

 

You equality pushers are some of the least thoughtful people I have ever been introduced to in my life; the reason being a high quality poster like me stays away from places like this.

 

 

Do yourself a favor, and get in touch with reality.

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[joystickd]

It is not that easy to find men who are not into running around. The ones who are into running around, hide it.

 

Lots of other men try to be like the womanizers... Thinking that is something to aspire to... And seem to be in relationships rather grudgingly.

 

It is actually quite hard to find men who sincerely value commitment. And show it in their actions. Those are the only kind of men I care to date. I think I do a better job than many women finding those guys...

 

But the other types? They stand out because of their blatant dishonesty and unwillingness to gracefully go away when they see I am not on the same page as them. I view them as bullies, liars. One I consider a sociopath. Nothing any man should aspire to. Or any sane woman would want to be around. They wouldn't be able to get away with half the shyt they do if their friends didn't cover for them.

It's not hard to find men that want to commit. The problem becomes finding men that want to commit to YOU. There are lots of times women whine that men are scared of commitment but there is the possibility that the man sees you and doesn't see you as someone worthy to take it to a commitment level. It's a more palatable narrative to say someone is scared to commit.

 

It's like I said before you aren't involved in these friendships so you don't have no idea if they are covering for each other. It's easy to create a narrative putting everything on the opposite sex and avoid a woman's role in it.

[RedRobin]

It's not hard to find men that want to commit. The problem becomes finding men that want to commit to YOU. There are lots of times women whine that men are scared of commitment but there is the possibility that the man sees you and doesn't see you as someone worthy to take it to a commitment level. It's a more palatable narrative to say someone is scared to commit.

 

It's like I said before you aren't involved in these friendships so you don't have no idea if they are covering for each other. It's easy to create a narrative putting everything on the opposite sex and avoid a woman's role in it.

 

 

Those men should walk then, and not date women who are looking for a commitment. But no. They have no responsibility. They couldn't care less.

 

In the examples I gave, the men all claimed to be looking for a relationship. But I knew that was BS because they had little or no history of that. It's easy for me. Once I find out their history, I dump them. I could care less what comes out of their mouth or what they claim to want.

 

As for the friends... Again. I know they covered, because I went back to the guys who 'recommended' said guy and asked more questions. As suspected, they WERE covering. You know what they said? 'I thought he would change if he met a nice woman like you'.

 

A holes. I told them great. Thanks for making me a guinea pig. If you knew he was like that, you should have said so beforehand. Why the eff did you recommend him? Oh, and by the way, your idiot friend can't take no for an answer...

 

Makes me want to throw up. How some of you guys effing team up against women. Those friends of the womanizers? Not my friends anymore. Not a fan of passive aggressive jerks sitting on the sidelines watching their buddies try to screw women over and blaming women for it.

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[RedRobin]

Whatever, your friend is a retard. The double standard is more than men are "like animals".

 

 

Women can get sex whenever they please, due to the way men are hard-wired. We crave sex infinitely more than women; we have testosterone running through our body, not estrogen. A women procuring sex takes absolutely NO (to very minimal) EFFORT!.

 

 

Men have a very hard time procuring sex; hence, them having to develop an unshakable confidence to get it. They must have great social skills, resources, sky high self esteem, and so on. For a man to have sex it takes GREAT EFFORT!

 

 

Furthermore, have you ever noticed that men don't get pregnant, and women do? Are you aware of a thing called gestation? Women are supposed to be more selective, because of the consequences that sex accompanies. With great power come great responsibility.

 

 

I forgot though, modern society has created this poison pill, called "Birth Control", that can be shown to have adverse effects on the natural chemistry in the body. Oh yea, it also shows up in the water we drink, causing more harm to the natural composition.

 

 

It also gives you the freedom to act more irresponsibly.

 

 

You equality pushers are some of the least thoughtful people I have ever been introduced to in my life; the reason being a high quality poster like me stays away from places like this.

 

 

Do yourself a favor, and get in touch with reality.

 

Nah. Not these days. Men can get sex anytime they like, just not always with the women they want... Which is why so many lie.

 

Also why they trash the women they DO have sex with, because they view those women as beneath them. The opposite should be true... They should be grateful and treat those women as fellow human beings. Once they do that, things will change.

 

Sorry, we aren't going back to the no birth control days where women had babies like stray animals and left to die.

[endlessabyss]

Those men should walk then, and not date women who are looking for a commitment. But no. They have no responsibility. They couldn't care less.

 

In the examples I gave, the men all claimed to be looking for a relationship. But I knew that was BS because they had little or no history of that. It's easy for me. Once I find out their history, I dump them. I could care less what comes out of their mouth or what they claim to want.

 

As for the friends... Again. I know they covered, because I went back to the guys who 'recommended' said guy and asked more questions. As suspected, they WERE covering. You know what they said? 'I thought he would change if he met a nice woman like you'.

 

A holes. I told them great. Thanks for making me a guinea pig. If you knew he was like that, you should have said so beforehand. Why the eff did you recommend him? Oh, and by the way, your idiot friend can't take no for an answer...

 

Makes me want to throw up. How some of you guys effing team up against women. Those friends of the womanizers? Not my friends anymore. Not a fan of passive aggressive jerks sitting on the sidelines watching their buddies try to screw women over and blaming women for it.

 

 

 

The only people who are [sexually promiscuous] are the 20%. These guys have the ability [] because their options are so plentiful, and that is in part due to the hypergamy of wanting to continuously date up lol.

 

 

Plus, men usually act out like this as a result of liberal divorces and a judicial system that doesn't favor them very much, in regards to marriage at least. Tell me, what's the point of committing if you don't plan on getting marriage?

 

 

If a man has a family, and the women decides to the divorce, the mans life is usually over, while the woman reaps the benefits of high child support and potential alimony. Not only that, but marriages are transient; they are useless in todays world.

 

 

You feminist got what you wanted; stop crying lol.

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[endlessabyss]

Nah. Not these days. Men can get sex anytime they like, just not always with the women they want... Which is why so many lie.

 

 

Most men just want an average, healthy woman, that will be loyal. Nothing more, nothing less. What we don't want is big mouth, over weight, men wannabes.

 

Also why they trash the women they DO have sex with, because they view those women as beneath them. The opposite should be true... They should be grateful and treat those women as fellow human beings. Once they do that, things will change.

 

 

Women who put out early, and have a repuatation of sleeping around get no respect, sorry. Just one of those cold truths of life.

 

Sorry, we aren't going back to the no birth control days where women had babies like stray animals and left to die.

 

 

Just lol.

[joystickd]

Those men should walk then, and not date women who are looking for a commitment. But no. They have no responsibility. They couldn't care less.

 

In the examples I gave, the men all claimed to be looking for a relationship. But I knew that was BS because they had little or no history of that. It's easy for me. Once I find out their history, I dump them. I could care less what comes out of their mouth or what they claim to want.

 

As for the friends... Again. I know they covered, because I went back to the guys who 'recommended' said guy and asked more questions. As suspected, they WERE covering. You know what they said? 'I thought he would change if he met a nice woman like you'.

 

A holes. I told them great. Thanks for making me a guinea pig. If you knew he was like that, you should have said so beforehand. Why the eff did you recommend him? Oh, and by the way, your idiot friend can't take no for an answer...

 

Makes me want to throw up. How some of you guys effing team up against women. Those friends of the womanizers? Not my friends anymore. Not a fan of passive aggressive jerks sitting on the sidelines watching their buddies try to screw women over and blaming women for it.

You are totally missing the point they guys here are trying to make. []

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[sambolini]

The only people who are [sexually promiscuous] are the 20%. These guys have the ability [] because their options are so plentiful, and that is in part due to the hypergamy of wanting to continuously date up lol.

 

 

Plus, men usually act out like this as a result of liberal divorces and a judicial system that doesn't favor them very much, in regards to marriage at least. Tell me, what's the point of committing if you don't plan on getting marriage?

 

 

If a man has a family, and the women decides to the divorce, the mans life is usually over, while the woman reaps the benefits of high child support and potential alimony. Not only that, but marriages are transient; they are useless in todays world.

 

 

You feminist got what you wanted; stop crying lol.

 

This sums it up nicely.

 

I used to be all about commitment, until my ex wife decided to have an affair, take my daughter, stick me with the mortgage, and bleed me dry with child support.

 

I will never marry again. It'll never happen. Just last week I was texting a lady I was flirting with for a while. I told her we needed to hang out. We started chatting more, and she revealed she wants to get married and have another baby.

 

I almost literally ran in the other direction and haven't spoken with her since.

 

What's my incentive to commit? I've already been treated as a disposable utility by women and society. I'd have to be clinically insane to voluntarily sign up for that a second time.

 

Men will commit when it's worth it for them to do so. Right now, it ain't worth it whatsoever.

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[RedRobin]

The only people who are [sexually promiscuous] are the 20%. These guys have the ability [] because their options are so plentiful, and that is in part due to the hypergamy of wanting to continuously date up lol.

 

 

Plus, men usually act out like this as a result of liberal divorces and a judicial system that doesn't favor them very much, in regards to marriage at least. Tell me, what's the point of committing if you don't plan on getting marriage?

 

 

If a man has a family, and the women decides to the divorce, the mans life is usually over, while the woman reaps the benefits of high child support and potential alimony. Not only that, but marriages are transient; they are useless in todays world.

 

 

You feminist got what you wanted; stop crying lol.

 

I'm not a feminist. But one thing I do know... At least I am not obliged to put up with abusive, cheat[ers] like women did in past generations.

 

You don't like it? Hire someone to raise your kids or don't have them. I got my tubes tied at a young age so I wouldn't be obliged to carry any man's baby by accident or by force.

 

You are welcome...

Edited January 26, 2016 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
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[RedRobin]

You are totally missing the point they guys here are trying to make. It's almost like you are stupid.

 

I am not missing any point. Lots of men feel like they are entitled to lie if it gets them what they want, and their friends cover for them...

 

Then you want to blame women for being lied to. Nope I blame the liars and the ones covering for him.

 

At least the recent poster said he walked the other direction when the woman stated what she was looking for... When she told him she wasn't looking for anything casual. Good for him. He didn't try to BS her so he'd have someone to eff for awhile. As far as I can tell, he also didn't say " hey, you had casual sex with someone last century, so why not with me?" Like a spoiled baby.

 

His response is perfectly appropriate. Seems simple enough.

 

It's also one of the cold truths of life that lots of people dont have respect for womanizers either, which is why most of them are liars. Their guy friends do seem to look up to them though... Like some idiot cult of personality. That's why their friends cover for them. They wanna stay in the 'tribe'.

Edited January 26, 2016 by RedRobin