Online Dating for hot guys

[Aniela]

The old LoveShack bubble. It seems that everywhere else in the world women care about looks, find conventionally handsome men attractive and judge OLD prospects primarily from their pics. Not on this site though. It's genuinely miraculous.

 

Anyway I've been conducting another little experiment online the last few days. I've reset my own profile up. Great profile message and good pics. I then set up another profile on another device with a great looking guy. Not quite the 9/10 I used before but a solid 8. Both had essentially the EXACT same profile with a few facts slightly changed. Then I waited for women to message the good looking guy, waited about 5-10 minutes and generally mirrored the length and type of message from my own profile. Then if I didn't get a response I would finally respond to the original message sent to the hot guy to see if they were at the pc/phone/tablet.

 

Now bearing in mind that I've been told over and over again that there must be something wrong with my profile blurb (exactly the same this time) or messages (mirroring the women's own style this time) and the style of my photos (again mirroring the hot guys this time), guess what the result of my experiment was???

 

Yes. My profile got ZERO responses.

 

And women online don't care about looks.

 

I can always tell it's a fake profile. It's to the point where I'll just tell them to give up the ghost. It's possible to right-click on pictures, and find them through a google search, which confirms that the pictures are actually a male model who lives far away from me. Not only that, but I found more dating profiles in several different States, different people claiming to be the exact same guy.

[AverageJoe1986]

I can always tell it's a fake profile. It's to the point where I'll just tell them to give up the ghost. It's possible to right-click on pictures, and find them through a google search, which confirms that the pictures are actually a male model who lives far away from me. Not only that, but I found more dating profiles in several different States, different people claiming to be the exact same guy.

 

ThE well I'm not stupid am I. I don't use male models. I find friends if friends who live in Australia. The photos I use are very convincing because they are just normal photos.

[AverageJoe1986]

Let me get this straight. You have a fake profile just to see if women respond more positively to a better looking guy than yourself?

 

I knew people made fake profiles, I just haven't heard about this happening personally. Its surprising that someone would do this, because I feel resentful about the time I spend managing my OWN profile, but I do so because I want it to help me meet someone. Why, seriously- WHY- would you do this?

 

Yes, of course women are going to like the attractive guy more at first. Do you really need to go through this experiment to prove this? Everyone needs to just calm down about what they put on their profiles. I'm reading these posts and it's turning into a full-blown hysteria.

 

The most important part of OLD is the initial conversations you have with the people who decide whether or not they want to talk to you. When I say I give guys a chance, even if I don't think they're as physically attractive as I'd prefer, I mean it. I do give them a chance. Then we email, or text, and I decide if I want to go out with them.

 

If you're not getting enough opportunities to talk to women in the first place, you may just need to try talking to less attractive women- period. Sorry. Or join multiple dating sites. It's certainly more productive to widen your pool of potential women than it is to create a fake profile to determine if your headline or "about me" section is appealing.

 

1, It's market research. Everyone on here wants to tell me it's a numbers game so I'm researching the likelihood of me winning this particular lottery.

 

2, You really want to make this a thing about how looks matter AT FIRST the trouble is AT FIRST is all there is. No bloody woman will even look at my profile when I message them. There is no long game for me if I can never get a response or even someone to look at my profile.

 

3, Talk to less attractive women? I'm already going down at least 3 or 4 points lower than I usually would. One thing I have learnt is that even the piggies, most obese women with barely a passing acquaintance with literacy are chasing after only the very best looking men. There is no realistic sense of anything on these sites.

[AMJ]

There is no long game for me if I can never get a response or even someone to look at my profile.

 

3, Talk to less attractive women? I'm already going down at least 3 or 4 points lower than I usually would. There is no realistic sense of anything on these sites.

 

People are looking at your profile. Thinking that not a single person looks at your profile does not make sense. What does make sense is that people look at your profile and don't want to talk to you. As a man, unfortunately not many women will message you first, because we expect men to make the first move. Which means that you're only hoping the women you message first will like your profile. These women don't like your profile, so try to message different types of women.

Going down 3 or 4 points may not be good enough, maybe go down 5 points. Try that for a week, instead of your fake profile nonsense, and then report back if you get responses.

[Robratory]

Yes. My profile got ZERO responses.

 

And women online don't care about looks.

 

You're sounding discouraged to the point of bitterness. Try to pull out of it. Don't forget that there's a difference between "good looking" and "I like it." In other words, it's not about looks in general. Women, like men, like what they like.

 

Let me give you an example. There is not a Hollywood celebrity I find personally attractive enough to want to date. I recognize that most of them are very beautiful women, but their looks leave me totally cold. Ok, except one celebrity, and that would be Lena Dunham. The media all but calls her a fat, ugly woman, but to me, she's has a perfectly Rubenesque body and lovely Russian Jewish features. I realize lots of guys won't agree, but I don't care. I like what I like.

 

So don't think that because you don't look like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt that women won't find you attractive. Some won't but some will, and they probably wouldn't find Tom Cruise nor Brad Pitt attractive.

 

Seriously? Consider Craigslist. It's free, and at least in my area, I found people on Craigslist far less into playing games.

[AverageJoe1986]

People are looking at your profile. Thinking that not a single person looks at your profile does not make sense. What does make sense is that people look at your profile and don't want to talk to you. As a man, unfortunately not many women will message you first, because we expect men to make the first move. Which means that you're only hoping the women you message first will like your profile. These women don't like your profile, so try to message different types of women.

Going down 3 or 4 points may not be good enough, maybe go down 5 points. Try that for a week, instead of your fake profile nonsense, and then report back if you get responses.

 

There is a function on the site which allows you to see if someone has looked at your profile. Hardly anyone I message looks. I know that these women don't have a block that stops men from seeing this because the same women are looking at my other profile.

 

To date 5 points down would be to chase the women who get regularly confused for being a small house. I'm not doing that.

[AverageJoe1986]

You're sounding discouraged to the point of bitterness. Try to pull out of it. Don't forget that there's a difference between "good looking" and "I like it." In other words, it's not about looks in general. Women, like men, like what they like

 

Ok so women like different things. No women like me. Therefore I must be as ugly as Satan's backside.

[AverageJoe1986]

And yes I have gone to the point of total bitterness with this now. My confidence and self-esteem are completely shredded. I walk around town and every woman I see just fills me with a combination of anger and distress because I know full well that they're looking at me with a sense of disgust. I never used to think this way but over six months of being totally invisible on this site, whilst I now know that all I have to do to get endless attention from females is stick a few pretty pictures up, has left me feeling a sense of disgust and revulsion which is making me depressed to the point of not wanting to leave the house.

[SolG]

The old LoveShack bubble. It seems that everywhere else in the world women care about looks, find conventionally handsome men attractive and judge OLD prospects primarily from their pics. Not on this site though. It's genuinely miraculous...

 

And women online don't care about looks.

 

I'll admit it, I absolutely DO care about looks, or more acurately the look. But it's not as simple as that either... I'm not even going to bother looking at the blurb if the pic doesn't attract me in some way. And also, conventional good looks isn't actually enough in and of itself. It's about the attractiveness of the image overall, and not just the subject for me. Something there has to speak to me.

 

Now I can only speak for me... But hot guy shirtless selfie... Meh. Dime a dozen. Hot guy shirtless on the Kokoda Track, different story. Hot guy with his truck... Meh. Not so hot guy in a stylised b&w pic playing a chello might just get my attention. And now for a real life example... I actually messaged and went on a few dates with a guy who is not really attractive at all.. Because I needed to know why he was giving blood in Africa! We didn't hit it off romantically, but we're now friends and keep in touch. He's genuinely fascinating and dates oodles of hot women!

 

I think putting your best foot forwards has more to do with capturing and portraying the essence of you than just good looks in OLD. What about you would speak to ghe kind of wo an you want to attract? And how do you convey that as best you can in a picture?

 

In some ways it's actually no different to walking down te street in a big city. I walk past hundreds, maybe thousands of guys every day. Most of them I don't see. But every now and again there's the one that turns your head... looks help... but it's also sooooooo much more than that. You need to work out how to be THAT guy online.

[LookAtThisPOst]

1, It's market research. Everyone on here wants to tell me it's a numbers game so I'm researching the likelihood of me winning this particular lottery.

 

2, You really want to make this a thing about how looks matter AT FIRST the trouble is AT FIRST is all there is. No bloody woman will even look at my profile when I message them. There is no long game for me if I can never get a response or even someone to look at my profile.

 

3, Talk to less attractive women? I'm already going down at least 3 or 4 points lower than I usually would. One thing I have learnt is that even the piggies, most obese women with barely a passing acquaintance with literacy are chasing after only the very best looking men. There is no realistic sense of anything on these sites.

 

I did a little experiment myself. Although it didn't have to do with putting up a fake profile, but I decided to try something different.

 

I contacted a few obese women. Yep. Guess what, I got "views" but no responses. lol So that shows how much some of the women online over value themselves.

[Michelle ma Belle]

I did a little experiment myself. Although it didn't have to do with putting up a fake profile, but I decided to try something different.

 

I contacted a few obese women. Yep. Guess what, I got "views" but no responses. lol So that shows how much some of the women online over value themselves.

 

Wow. That's not only cruel and judgmental but super arrogant.

 

It would appear YOU might be no better in terms of over valuing yourself

[LookAtThisPOst]

Wow. That's not only cruel and judgmental but super arrogant.

 

It would appear YOU might be no better in terms of over valuing yourself

 

Hardly overvaluing myself one bit, as I know my limits when it comes to dating. I typically pursue more average, low maint. down to Earth women.

 

It's true, because it's funny through the years I've noticed this. Women who don't bring that much to the table when it comes to the physical and then some but yet expect their future partner to have washboard abs.

 

It's just the reality of the situation.

 

I noticed this with a woman in our Meetup group, but she had POF profile as well, though she rarely attends, she has a thing for this man that's a marathon runner, sleek physique, and good looking guy, physically in tip top shape. Her...not so much.

 

He of course says she's a nice girl, but has no interest in dating her.

 

People need to realize their limits when dating. It's recommended you date your equal in looks. I mean, you can TRY to swing for a 9 or 10 hottie/hunk, but it's likely not going to happen for that person.

 

If we're not talking about the physical, well there was this one woman on POF that was on full time disability, lived with her parents (over 40), and unemployed, but expected her partner to be in tip top shape, of course employed, and take her out to fine dining establishments (as so stated in her profile.) I figured this HAD to be joke, but her profiled lingered online for while.

Edited February 5, 2016 by LookAtThisPOst

[LookAtThisPOst]

Wow. That's not only cruel and judgmental but super arrogant.

 

It would appear YOU might be no better in terms of over valuing yourself

 

But, hey don't get all riled up, men can be guilty of this, too. Usually wanting the younger women, sadly, and have beer guts themselves.

 

It's so funny how people expect their future partners to bring SO much to the table, when they bring very little themselves.

[AverageJoe1986]

Hardly overvaluing myself one bit, as I know my limits when it comes to dating. I typically pursue more average, low maint. down to Earth women.

 

It's true, because it's funny through the years I've noticed this. Women who don't bring that much to the table when it comes to the physical and then some but yet expect their future partner to have washboard abs.

 

It's just the reality of the situation.

 

I noticed this with a woman in our Meetup group, but she had POF profile as well, though she rarely attends, she has a thing for this man that's a marathon runner, sleek physique, and good looking guy, physically in tip top shape. Her...not so much.

 

He of course says she's a nice girl, but has no interest in dating her.

 

People need to realize their limits when dating. It's recommended you date your equal in looks. I mean, you can TRY to swing for a 9 or 10 hottie/hunk, but it's likely not going to happen for that person.

 

If we're not talking about the physical, well there was this one woman on POF that was on full time disability, lived with her parents (over 40), and unemployed, but expected her partner to be in tip top shape, of course employed, and take her out to fine dining establishments (as so stated in her profile.) I figured this HAD to be joke, but her profiled lingered online for while.

 

Yep. My fake profiles get this ALL the time. My current one is, like I say, an 8/9. His current blurb is that he's a lecturer and writing a book. I get morbidly obese women on benefits messaging it. Can they genuinely not project themselves into the future and work out how that would ever happen?

[LookAtThisPOst]

Yep. My fake profiles get this ALL the time. My current one is, like I say, an 8/9. His current blurb is that he's a lecturer and writing a book. I get morbidly obese women on benefits messaging it. Can they genuinely not project themselves into the future and work out how that would ever happen?

 

I forgot this one.

 

Usually it's in the headlines of profiles on Plenty of Fish, "Must be Plenty of Whales!" if you can read between the lines.

[AverageJoe1986]

I forgot this one.

 

Usually it's in the headlines of profiles on Plenty of Fish, "Must be Plenty of Whales!" if you can read between the lines.

 

Most annoying headline I see all the time needs no reading between the lines: "Where are all the hot guys?".

[AverageJoe1986]

Damn straight it goes both ways.

 

I just think it's sad that men and women have to resort to playing games online by either creating fake profiles or conducting experiments and then feel qualified to make these grandiose conclusions and paint everyone with the same paintbrush

 

Seems like such a time waster and only adds to the sheer insanity and toxic mistrust that has become synonymous with OLD in my humble opinion.

 

Some interaction with a fake profile is far better than no interaction with my own. That's why there are so many so-called carriages out there because women are giving all their attention to a few men.

 

Apart from those who post on this site of course.

[AverageJoe1986]

Some interaction with a fake profile is far better than no interaction with my own. That's why there are so many so-called carriages out there because women are giving all their attention to a few men.

 

Apart from those who post on this site of course.

 

That should be catfishes not carriages. This bloody tablet has the crappiest predictive text.

[TheArtist]

Some interaction with a fake profile is far better than no interaction with my own.

 

Ah, but what if you're getting attention from someone with a fake profile at the moment? What if everyone on there does the same thing? You see?

[WaitingForBardot]

@AverageJoe1986

 

I would advise against judging your own looks based on OLD response rates. I once, idiotically in retrospect, posted my picture to a site that allowed others to rate your looks. Now I've always known I am not particularly photogenic, but to call the rating I received a knockout blow to the ego would be putting it mildly. ..lol..

 

So I instead decided to rate myself based on the women I've attracted over the years and I think it was much more revealing. The take home lesson was that OLD would not be for me should I find myself single again.

[Michelle ma Belle]

Some interaction with a fake profile is far better than no interaction with my own. That's why there are so many so-called carriages out there because women are giving all their attention to a few men.

 

Apart from those who post on this site of course.

 

That's a very sad excuse I'm afraid. And once again, a huge assumption on your part.

[AverageJoe1986]

Ah, but what if you're getting attention from someone with a fake profile at the moment? What if everyone on there does the same thing? You see?

 

Then I'm no worse off than I was. And I know that not to be the case with ALL of them because I know several people on there.

[AverageJoe1986]

That's a very sad excuse I'm afraid. And once again, a huge assumption on your part.

 

Assumption based on all the available evidence I have. I could have blindly believed that it's just that every woman I messaged was busy, didn't like my messages, found what I'd written was uninteresting etc etc and I'm sure I'd feel a lot better about myself and would have wasted years on these sites. But I know these women weren't busy, didn't care what I wrote on my profile or messaged them because of how they all reacted to the fakes.

[AverageJoe1986]

@AverageJoe1986

 

I would advise against judging your own looks based on OLD response rates. I once, idiotically in retrospect, posted my picture to a site that allowed others to rate your looks. Now I've always known I am not particularly photogenic, but to call the rating I received a knockout blow to the ego would be putting it mildly. ..lol..

 

So I instead decided to rate myself based on the women I've attracted over the years and I think it was much more revealing. The take home lesson was that OLD would not be for me should I find myself single again.

 

I wouldn't mind so much but the pictures I have up are super flattering ones of me. If they meet with a collective euggh then I must be repulsive.

[Michelle ma Belle]

Assumption based on all the available evidence I have. I could have blindly believed that it's just that every woman I messaged was busy, didn't like my messages, found what I'd written was uninteresting etc etc and I'm sure I'd feel a lot better about myself and would have wasted years on these sites. But I know these women weren't busy, didn't care what I wrote on my profile or messaged them because of how they all reacted to the fakes.

 

So then get OFF OLD!! I don't understand why continue doing something you clearly don't enjoy. It's only making you more jaded for heaven's sake. And no one enjoys dating someone who is jaded about dating and relationships. Women can smell that a mile away.