The John Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Ive read Mixwells little thread and decided to share my story. The way I see it things, some write books. Some read them. The first time with a "professional" was a girl from the neighbourhood. Fairly cheap and very polite she was $30 plus a couple second hand books from the shop I worked at. I didnt really get anywhere, and I think she felt bad about that. I had told her not to come around again, she assured me she never got emotionally connected. Still she looked incredibly sad going out into the night. The next was again from the "hood". Truthfrully folks she got way more pleasure then me, I felt a bit ripped off handing over the cash. I decided to go upscale and spend a bit more $160. Coed escorts. Young and firm, yet didnt do a thing for me. It wasnt until one day I called an ad and the voice on the other end was soft and sensual. I felt so comfortable. When she arrived she was not exactly a model , but beautiful in her own way. After we did our bussiness, she laid beside me and snuggled with me. She gave me her email address and we kept in touch. She wrote peotry and erotic stories. Her plan was to eventually make a living from that. We talked alot and she even listened to my girl problems when she wasnt too busy. The next time we had a rendevous. I ended up pleasuring her to the extent she almost when limp in my arms. She confessed she had never been pleasured by a cleint before, it was at that moment I began to realize she had a bit of a crush on me. Which she did admit later in one of our online chats. She had a bad spell and I lost touch with her a few times, the last being a while ago. I told her one time I wanted to take her to dinner and buy her flowers etc.. she confessed she never had a guy do that for her.. I felt really sad for her. The truth is these so called "professionals" are not much different then most women. They get jealous, need affection, cuddles etc.. there was a few that fell asleep in my arms. I think in some way we all pay for affection and sex. Women making dinner and doing their guys laundry. Paying for that girls meal.. just in case it might look good later. Or how about at work, what have you had to do to get ahead. At school, at the butchers if he sees your cleavage does he give u a better cut of meat? And perhaps you even get a little thrill from it. Cash in exchange for favours and services or favourtism is in everything from politics, to getting your product on the shelf at a japanese supermarket. The truth is folks we are all a nation of WHORES and HUSTLERS. and it starts with little jimmy paying little betty to show her boobies for a quarter. Or Cindy promising little bobby a kiss if he shows her his peepee. Maybe more if she can touch it. Link to post Share on other sites
IhavenoFREAKINclue Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 The truth is folks we are all a nation of WHORES and HUSTLERS. You just said a mouthful. I couldn't have described our country any better! I stand by mixwell 100%. Many people do this. He just had the balls to say it. Or overjoyed from getting laid....WHOOOO HOOOO Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I think in some way we all pay for affection and sex. Very, very true. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by The John I think in some way we all pay for affection and sex. Women making dinner and doing their guys laundry. Paying for that girls meal.. just in case it might look good later. Or how about at work, what have you had to do to get ahead. This is a very socially aware statement. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Speak for yourself, not for me. I don't pay for love or affection in any way, shape, or form. I never have and I never will. What is so sad, to me, is that so many people don't know the difference. It's no wonder there are so many failed relationships. I'm all for capitalism, but there is a WORLD of difference in bartering for goods and services and in sharing love and affection and doing something for others because you want to vs. being paid for it in some way. Women making dinner and doing their guys laundry. Paying for that girls meal These are not "payments"!!! It's done out of love, not for it. Link to post Share on other sites
scarlyjones Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by HokeyReligions Speak for yourself, not for me. I don't pay for love or affection in any way, shape, or form. I never have and I never will. What is so sad, to me, is that so many people don't know the difference. It's no wonder there are so many failed relationships. I'm all for capitalism, but there is a WORLD of difference in bartering for goods and services and in sharing love and affection and doing something for others because you want to vs. being paid for it in some way. These are not "payments"!!! It's done out of love, not for it. Thats right ! I feel sorry for anyone who is in a relationship and feels that buying their S.O. dinner is payment for sex or kindness. Thats ridiculous. If you really feel that way,...then thats why you dig hookers. You can just pay for it without paying for dinner. You DO realize in making that statement about america being whores and hustlers,....that you called your own Mother a whore, right? Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I think in some way we all pay for affection and sex. Women making dinner and doing their guys laundry. Paying for that girls meal.. just in case it might look good later. Or how about at work, what have you had to do to get ahead. Actually, he's right though it's not true for everyone. It's not that people 'pay for affection' consciously but I'm guessing there's not one of you who doesn't know someone staying in some sort of dysfunctional relationship where s/he gives more than s/he gets and that's a direct attempt to 'buy' love. Again, not consciously, but lots of people who have grown up feeling bad or inadequate or unworthy become desperate to obtain love and give and give and give in hope of being loved back. Or they buy lavish gifts and give lots of money. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Read "Nancy Chan: Diary of a Manhattan Call Girl" (google it). Written by Tracy Quan. Some women choose this profession, for whatever reasons. Granted there are scenarios of exploitation, but there are also women who choose to become prostitutes or call girls. Hell, there are even "Sex Worker Conventions" I consider this to be the same as strippers. They provide a service, which obviously has a market. Regardless of my personal opinion of the morality of the issue.... Maybe I'm too accepting of other people's personal choices. It's not my life. I just don't feel like I shoudl dictate what other people's moralities should be. That's their responsibility. JMO, though - no offense directed to anyone. Link to post Share on other sites
reservoirdog1 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Sometimes, it does seem like we all pay for it, or buy it, one way or another. I remember I used to joke with my ex-wife when we were still married: "I think you're really just using me for my love and companionship." Turns out I was right. Link to post Share on other sites
mixwell Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Its good to know that there are people who support me. Its nice we can all share our experiences !! Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by HokeyReligions there is a WORLD of difference in bartering for goods and services and in sharing love and affection and doing something for others because you want to vs. being paid for it in some way. Agreed. If sharing love and affection is sugar then being paid or paying for it in some way might be "Equal." People have challenges and seek imperfect solutions to survive at the level of their choice. If a person craves sugar but can't find it then maybe using Equal is a choice that some (not all) would make. I don't think that many people would think Equal is sugar though some might say it tastes like sugar or it reminds them of sugar. Sometimes just a simple reminder of something in the form of a taste, a scent, a sound, a touch, etc. is enough for that individual. This isn't a perfect world, not everyone demonstrates the courage or capability to love based on historical results. If someone finds temporary relief from themselves by using the services of a prostitute maybe that is acceptable or even a good thing. It may not be the theoretical ideal but does satisfy something within some people and may help them along in their journey of self discovery, self destruction, actualization or a combination thereof. We can hope for an ideal but in the end human nature takes its course. Link to post Share on other sites
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