Consolidated Discussion: Height in Dating

[palmsand]

I know couples where she is taller than he is. I don't think its as big of a deal as some would think. I guess since on average men are taller, that is kinda the norm.

[joseb]

Sorry I should have clarified that his height had absolutely nothing to do with why we are no longer dating!!. it was just an observation

 

How tall are you?

[Cookiesandough]

Positive. I am 5'3" but often wear heels

[joseb]

Positive. I am 5'3" but often wear heels

 

So you are a full seven inches shorter than him, but still noticed how "short' he was. I think this is the kind of response that starts threads like this.

You would be a good match (height wise) for a guy 5 5 or above, yet you set the bar a good 7 inches higher.

 

It would be like a guy coming on and saying he dated this girl who had a BMI of 23, but if she had a 21 he would find her so much attractive.

I mean, both are valid I guess, but seem a bit petty.

 

As a guy I would almost never rule a girl out because of her height.

I usually go for petite girls about 5 4, but have dated from 4'10 to 5'10 and height was never an issue.

 

To all the shorter guys, all you can do is present yourself in the best way possible. That might include wearing dress shoes that give you a life (think of it as evening up all the high heels a little), wearing good clothes, exercising, weights, eat well. Try to project the image of someone you look up to when you walk.

Walk with confidence, hold yourself up high.

Sure, this wont be enough for a lot of women, but it will make a difference.

[NJ123]

So you are a full seven inches shorter than him, but still noticed how "short' he was. I think this is the kind of response that starts threads like this.

You would be a good match (height wise) for a guy 5 5 or above, yet you set the bar a good 7 inches higher.

 

It would be like a guy coming on and saying he dated this girl who had a BMI of 23, but if she had a 21 he would find her so much attractive.

I mean, both are valid I guess, but seem a bit petty.

 

As a guy I would almost never rule a girl out because of her height.

I usually go for petite girls about 5 4, but have dated from 4'10 to 5'10 and height was never an issue.

 

To all the shorter guys, all you can do is present yourself in the best way possible. That might include wearing dress shoes that give you a life (think of it as evening up all the high heels a little), wearing good clothes, exercising, weights, eat well. Try to project the image of someone you look up to when you walk.

Walk with confidence, hold yourself up high.

Sure, this wont be enough for a lot of women, but it will make a difference.

 

Well, that's unfortunately the way it is sadly. Women like what they like & we can't change it. I really need to try to stop worrying about this type of stuff. I've also been really trying to exercise again to get into better shape & eat a bit better. I also wear dress shoes at my job that probably add an inch or so to my actual height but I still see so many women that are taller than me. I'm 5'7" with those dress shoes, & I don't know if it's just me or if women are just taller in general these days.

 

And the thing is most guys don't care about a woman's height, it's women that make a big deal out of it making it difficult for many men.

[Gr8fuln2020]

My friend's and I are more attracted to taller men (>6') just giving my honest opinion, I was just dating a guy who was 5'10 and I couldn't help but thinking how much more attractive he'd be if he was taller(my first boyfriend was 6'2 and there is a difference).He was still super attractive. because height isn't everything of course. It's just a plus.

 

I love threads about things we cannot control...uhm, like height.

 

In what way is it a plus?

 

Here's my take...its all about EGO. Not biology as so many would like to fantasize, including women.

 

All through history, it was the STRONGEST, not tallest who managed to gain power. So, there is little to no correlation to evolutionary preference based on height. The height phenonemon is a western (American) bias, not human. Many cultures, especially outside of USA, place less emphasis on height when it comes to finding a mate. We can thank hollywood and our media driven society for that. The TALL dark handsome....and that sort of thing. We are easily convinced that Tall means anything at all...stronger...no. But women have been conditioned to believe there is some advantage...only in basketball and if they are athletic and skilled.

 

Going back to EGO...I think that women are instinctively aware that height means absolutely nothing in terms of the success of a relationship. In fact, height has almost no or no bearing on anything to do with finding love, loyalty, honesty, etc. We all know this to be so...okay, back to EGO...

 

I am firmly convinced that women want taller men b/c it make THEM look good. It boosts their own self-worth, value by being seen and with a man 4-12 inches taller. In this society, women seem to have greater VISUAL value for men who are tall. In most cases, these men don't even have to be in good physical shape, just tall.

 

Not complaining. I've dated plenty and most of these women have been as tall or shorter than myself. I've even dated a woman as much as 4 inches taller, but these ladies are rare. Just my observation...

[Fishfingersareyummy]

My friend's and I are more attracted to taller men (>6') just giving my honest opinion, I was just dating a guy who was 5'10 and I couldn't help but thinking how much more attractive he'd be if he was taller(my first boyfriend was 6'2 and there is a difference).He was still super attractive. because height isn't everything of course. It's just a plus.

 

See this is where women like you contradict yourselves because you state how important height is to you before spinning the "height isn't everything". Well clearly it's very important to you and that's not a bad thing but coming out with with what you didn't at the end of your passage is not only dishonest, it insults the intelligence of short men.

 

I'd have more respect for women who see us short men as unattractive if they just came out and said they found short men unattractive instead of trying to sugar coat their opinions because they don't want to "hurt" someone's feelings.

 

Short men have to accept that views like yours are common place and instead of being upset about it have to work with what they've got. I'm short and I attract women, so being short is not the end of the world.

[lightfoot]

My friend's and I are more attracted to taller men (>6') just giving my honest opinion, I was just dating a guy who was 5'10 and I couldn't help but thinking how much more attractive he'd be if he was taller(my first boyfriend was 6'2 and there is a difference).He was still super attractive. because height isn't everything of course. It's just a plus.

 

Are you kidding? You're 5'3", the height of my 60-year-old mom, and you were dating a man 7 inches taller than you, and were turned off because he wasn't 11 inches taller than you?!

 

6'2" is in the 96th percentile! That's four per cent of men. One in 25 men is as tall as your standard.

 

The average height is 5'9". Over 6 feet tall is not "taller" men, it's the very tallest men, the top 14 per cent.

 

I guess he should have apologized for his DNA. Or worked for ten years so he could afford to get his legs sawed and stretched for you.

 

I guess we should be glad you're giving your "honest opinion," but why can't your honest opinion also be reasonable and fair? And why would you post something that offensive in a thread like this of all places? I love how some people act like something offensive should be appreciated, because it's "honest."

 

Plus if you and your friends are all competing for the 14 per cent of men who are over six feet tall, do you ever wonder why these men are so independent and picky? Good luck trying to tie one down, they're drowning in demand.

Edited October 16, 2016 by lightfoot

[Cookiesandough]

You're right, it shouldn't have been said. Please just ignore my comment. I can't edit it now. I'm not picky about height. Like I said, I was very interested in a guy who falls below my preference. It's 1 out of so many other things taken into consideration it's not worth mentioning.

[Versacehottie]

You're right, it shouldn't have been said. Please just ignore my comment. I can't edit it now. I'm not picky about height. Like I said, I was very interested in a guy who falls below my preference. It's 1 out of so many other things taken into consideration it's not worth mentioning.

 

Do you really think that you shouldn't have said it? I think you have every right to say it. This is a discussion on height and as much as some participating on the thread might not like to hear what is going on in the heads of those they want to date. This is the place to let them know about it. It's almost like some of the guys on here want to only complain about something they cannot change and make the women who try to explain their preference and the in's and out's of it feel bad or that they should be pc about it. Being PC in the answers given won't change what is happening out in the real world.

 

Sometimes it seems like they just want a place to vent rather than to do anything about it. Like you just said (bolded above) it's one of many things you take into consideration. I think a lot of women feel like that. Being tall, yes that's a plus but so is a great, confident personality. Ultimately who you decided to get into a relationship with is dependent on lots of factors. Sure, it's probably easier for tall guys initially on initial attraction. That alone builds their confidence and hurts the confidence of the shorter guys. IF THEY LET IT. In my experience, it's also a bit easier for blondes (women) on initial attraction alone. So? that's just the world we live in and biological, uncontrollable preferences. It's not the ONLY (far from it) deciding factor. Guys (and girls) need to learn how to work with what they are given and maximize it, change their approach when what they are doing, i.e. online and in a bar where initial attraction is a larger factor is not probably best way when you are on shorter side. One of my guy friends is short and cleans up, no problem. He emphasizes his talent (and keeps pouring more into that), his ambition (and is super focused about that), he dresses great, is super fit and charming and is good about opening up with feelings and that kind of stuff. He does not lack for gf's or girls interested in him (waiting in the wings). Two of his gf's have been models. I've never heard him complain about his height, in spite of the very real fact that it probably does limit his choices some, but he's not letting it stop him if that makes sense. This is how guys with a similar height issue should go about it.

[Gr8fuln2020]

I've always wondered, has there ever been an anonymous survey given to women, in general, of specific ethnic groups and based on education level of what women think of men's heights? Probably not, huh? I would be curious to know how many women actually, truthfully use height as their TOP determinant for dating. There are quite a few...online dating sites, you'll see very short women stating that if you're not so-and-so height, don't bother. It's pretty funny.

 

Again, height preference is NOT an evolutionary phenomenon. If so, there would be far more taller people. It is entirely cultural and more recent. There is no evolutionary advantage to being tall unless one creates one. Basketball comes to mind. An artificial condition created to benefit taller people, but even then, w/o skill, being tall is not an advantage at all.

Edited October 16, 2016 by simpleNfit

[NJ123]

You're right, it shouldn't have been said. Please just ignore my comment. I can't edit it now. I'm not picky about height. Like I said, I was very interested in a guy who falls below my preference. It's 1 out of so many other things taken into consideration it's not worth mentioning.

 

You already just said that you & your friends want a guy that's 6 foot or taller. So you are picky. You flat out said that the guy would be even more attractive if he was taller. This is why guys complain in the first place when women try to bend the truth. I really believe what we see with online dating is what women truly want but a lot won't admit it in person since they'll come across as shallow. I mean how would it look if a woman out in person told a bunch of people "I only date guys 6 or more inches taller than me." It likely wouldn't go over so well.

[PrettyEmily77]

If short guys think their height is the ONLY deciding factor in pursing a relationship with them, not only is it patronising, it is also an easy way out.

 

If you are that bothered about your height, make it so that your other qualities or personal traits outshine the height 'issue'.

[lightfoot]

Do you really think that you shouldn't have said it? I think you have every right to say it. This is a discussion on height and as much as some participating on the thread might not like to hear what is going on in the heads of those they want to date. This is the place to let them know about it. It's almost like some of the guys on here want to only complain about something they cannot change and make the women who try to explain their preference and the in's and out's of it feel bad or that they should be pc about it. Being PC in the answers given won't change what is happening out in the real world.

 

Sometimes it seems like they just want a place to vent rather than to do anything about it. Like you just said (bolded above) it's one of many things you take into consideration. I think a lot of women feel like that. Being tall, yes that's a plus but so is a great, confident personality. Ultimately who you decided to get into a relationship with is dependent on lots of factors. Sure, it's probably easier for tall guys initially on initial attraction. That alone builds their confidence and hurts the confidence of the shorter guys. IF THEY LET IT. In my experience, it's also a bit easier for blondes (women) on initial attraction alone. So? that's just the world we live in and biological, uncontrollable preferences. It's not the ONLY (far from it) deciding factor. Guys (and girls) need to learn how to work with what they are given and maximize it, change their approach when what they are doing, i.e. online and in a bar where initial attraction is a larger factor is not probably best way when you are on shorter side. One of my guy friends is short and cleans up, no problem. He emphasizes his talent (and keeps pouring more into that), his ambition (and is super focused about that), he dresses great, is super fit and charming and is good about opening up with feelings and that kind of stuff. He does not lack for gf's or girls interested in him (waiting in the wings). Two of his gf's have been models. I've never heard him complain about his height, in spite of the very real fact that it probably does limit his choices some, but he's not letting it stop him if that makes sense. This is how guys with a similar height issue should go about it.

 

I think you have every right to say it.

 

Clearly few people here agree with that. Just because it's a discussion doesn't mean it's a free-for-all. It was an insensitive (disrespectful toward the situations of many participants) and irrational (bordering on absurd) remark and I'm glad it was apologized for.

 

Being PC in the answers given won't change what is happening out in the real world.

 

Folks who complain about political correctness are often the folks who want to have the right to offend.

 

Besides, we're not trying to PC anything. By spreading awareness and using *facts* we have to influence "preferences," attitudes, and treatment in the dating world to make them more ethical -- and more practical too. Women have to learn to stop lining up for Titans. With 70 per cent of women saying they wouldn't date anybody under 6 feet, that means 70 per cent of women are dreaming about 14 per cent of men. This doesn't lead to a positive outcome for either.

 

We've changed awareness and thinking in other areas of discrimination. Interracial and interfaith dating is much more common than it used to be. We have fatshaming, slutshaming, maybe it's time we had shortshaming too.

 

Sometimes it seems like they just want a place to vent rather than to do anything about it.

 

What can they "do about it"? It's a genetic trait, isn't it?

 

Sure, it's probably easier for tall guys initially on initial attraction. That alone builds their confidence and hurts the confidence of the shorter guys.

Some guys go single for years because of their height. Again, this issue is being trivialized.

 

So? that's just the world we live in and biological, uncontrollable preferences.

 

By blaming them on "biological, uncontrollable preferences," you remove the actual human practitioners of the discrimination from the equation. It's just like racism -- people have preferences, it's nobody's fault.

 

Guys (and girls) need to learn how to work with what they are given and maximize it, change their approach when what they are doing, i.e. online and in a bar where initial attraction is a larger factor is not probably best way when you are on shorter side.

 

What do you think men of lower stature are doing already?

 

One of my guy friends is short and cleans up, no problem.

And one person who smoked for 96 years lived to be 122.

 

A guy shouldn't have to be Elijah Wood or Tony Montana to have a partner, for Pete's sake. Nobody's gonna work and make a huge long-term project out of convincing others that their height doesn't make them undateable.

 

The problem isn't with short men, the problem is with discrimination and those who practice it.

Edited October 16, 2016 by lightfoot

[Gr8fuln2020]

If short guys think their height is the ONLY deciding factor in pursing a relationship with them, not only is it patronising, it is also an easy way out.

 

If you are that bothered about your height, make it so that your other qualities or personal traits outshine the height 'issue'.

 

Let me say that I have no problem being shorter then the averge male. I simply chalk it up to poor taste on the part of the lady who rejects me b/c of my height. I have my crap together and pretty good looking, fit and if my height, even when I am taller than the lady in question, is an issue, than she is the one who lost out.

 

There is little doubt that for some women, it is the primary determinant. Of course it is not the only, but there are women who will not even consider a mate if the height litmus test does not pass. No doubt.

 

My other traits blow away my 'perceived' height deficiency. I am extremely confident and have no problems approaching or contacting women much taller than myself. In fact, in contact with one 4 inches taller than myself. :-)

 

Anyway, my suggestion is that shorter guys continue contacting taller women. Not much to say to the contrary. Some, not many, of the ladies truly do not regard height with such import. My sister and my sister-in-law are fine examples.

[PrettyEmily77]

Let me say that I have no problem being shorter then the averge male. I simply chalk it up to poor taste on the part of the lady who rejects me b/c of my height. I have my crap together and pretty good looking, fit and if my height, even when I am taller than the lady in question, is an issue, than she is the one who lost out.

 

There is little doubt that for some women, it is the primary determinant. Of course it is not the only, but there are women who will not even consider a mate if the height litmus test does not pass. No doubt.

 

My other traits blow away my 'perceived' height deficiency. I am extremely confident and have no problems approaching or contacting women much taller than myself. In fact, in contact with one 4 inches taller than myself. :-)

 

Anyway, my suggestion is that shorter guys continue contacting taller women. Not much to say to the contrary. Some, not many, of the ladies truly do not regard height with such import. My sister and my sister-in-law are fine examples.

 

I suspect this is an issue that comes with dating online. I have no idea how OLD works nor do I care to know, but I suspect height for guys and physical attractiveness for women are on a par in terms of 'determining factors'.

 

If you (general you) can dish it out, you should be able to take it.

[LD1990]

Besides, we're not trying to PC anything. By spreading awareness and using *facts* we have to influence "preferences," attitudes, and treatment in the dating world to make them more ethical -- and more practical too. Women have to learn to stop lining up for Titans. With 70 per cent of women saying they wouldn't date anybody under 6 feet, that means 70 per cent of women are dreaming about 14 per cent of men. This doesn't lead to a positive outcome for either.

 

We've changed awareness and thinking in other areas of discrimination. Interracial and interfaith dating is much more common than it used to be. We have fatshaming, slutshaming, maybe it's time we had shortshaming too.

 

That's like saying "men have to learn to stop being attracted to women with large breasts." It's just not going to happen. Like it or not, height is something many women find attractive. Now, not all of them will consider it a dealbreaker, but it's still one factor used to judge attractiveness.

 

Sure, we talk about fatshaming now, and it's seen as wrong to shame someone because of their weight. But being in-shape is still seen as more attractive than being overweight.

 

The problem isn't with short men, the problem is with discrimination and those who practice it.

 

If you're going to call it discrimination, then everyone on the planet practices some form of discrimination. We all have things we find attractive and unattractive in potential partners.

[Fishfingersareyummy]

As a short man I don't want women to start dating me out of pity or because they think they may be able to get over the fact I am 5'5. I'd rather they just rejected me instead of wasting my time and theirs.

[lightfoot]

That's like saying "men have to learn to stop being attracted to women with large breasts."

 

No, it's not. The average bra size in America is 34DD. Only 17 per cent of women have an A or A cup. A woman with a small chest can get a breast augmentation. So the majority of women are well-endowed in that area and those who aren't can do something about it. In any case, very few men have a fixed standard that a woman should have a large chest. If you asked a random sample of men if they probably wouldn't date a woman with less than a certain bra size and a random sample of women if they probably wouldn't date a man under a certain height, you'd have very different results.

 

There's nothing you can do about short stature unless you have $200,000 and the willingness to go through an excruciatingly painful and dangerous operation that takes a year of recovery.

 

Besides, again, we're not only talking about a preference for greater height. It's the fairly recent, viral preference for a much greater height that's throwing everything out of proportion. If most women would want to date a man a few inches taller (which is reasonable and is historically what happened), we wouldn't have any issues since men are naturally taller. But you just saw someone below average female height who wants to date a man in the top 4 per cent, and many, many women have that mindset. This 6 feet mantra comes from popular culture and the explosion of online dating. I knew a girl -- woman I should say, since she was in her 30s -- who just had to have a man 6 feet or over, and was single for three years as a result. She said she knew she was rejecting "half" of men but couldn't help it. She was actually rejecting 86 per cent of men. The problem is ignorance and the solution to that is education.

 

It's just not going to happen.

 

I would bet that most women would not have the exact same preferences in the long term if they knew the statistics behind height in the US and the world.

 

Like it or not, height is something many women find attractive. Now, not all of them will consider it a dealbreaker, but it's still one factor used to judge attractiveness.

 

Height is relative. When a woman considers it a dealbreaker that a man is not at least six feet tall, that is something that should be remedied through awareness. https://www.thestar.com/life/relationships/2016/06/27/stop-turning-down-men-under-six-feet-tall-matchmaker-says.html

 

Sure, we talk about fatshaming now, and it's seen as wrong to shame someone because of their weight. But being in-shape is still seen as more attractive than being overweight.

 

Being overweight is a condition that you can change -- even usually when it's genetic. Pretty much anyone who exercised an hour a day is guaranteed to keep their fat off. When it isn't the result of genetic or hormonal factors, it's the result of a sedentary lifestyle and a reluctance to engage in physical activity. It can't be compared with a 100% genetic unchangeable trait like height.

 

If you're going to call it discrimination, then everyone on the planet practices some form of discrimination. We all have things we find attractive and unattractive in potential partners.

 

Do you think we have half a century of anti-discrimination laws because society is naturally free of discrimination?

 

In this case, of course, we can't legislate "preferences." But the answer is education.

Edited October 16, 2016 by lightfoot

[AnnieRose]

Lightfoot is on the money. It's cultural not evolutionary and education can change that. As with most things we are attracted to!

[LD1990]

Do you think we have half a century of anti-discrimination laws because society is naturally free of discrimination?

 

No, and I never said anything to that effect. Like almost everything else I wrote, you're completely missing the point so you can go off on your lengthy tangent about how #ShortLivesMatter. I'm saying if your setting the discrimination line at "won't date someone because of a physical trait," then everyone on the planet is guilty of discrimination, because we all have things we find unattractive.

 

As impressive as your ability to Google things is, my point about large breasts had nothing to do with the average cup size or the availability of breast augmentation surgeries. The point is that large breasts are a physical trait many men find attractive, that not all women have. No amount of education will change what those men find attractive.

 

All this whining about how women prefer men above 6 feet is ridiculous. It's a preference for some women, and a dealbreaker for a select few. Sure, women may say they want a guy above a certain height, but it's not like they're walking around carrying tape measures making sure potential suitors meet their height minimum. They either think you're attractive or they don't. If a woman doesn't find you attractive because of your height, that's her right, just like it's your right not to find every woman in the world attractive.

 

As far as online dating goes, it's a crapshoot for everyone. Yes, it favors men who are tall, handsome, and successful. Welcome to life.

[lightfoot]

No, and I never said anything to that effect. Like almost everything else I wrote, you're completely missing the point so you can go off on your lengthy tangent about how #ShortLivesMatter.

 

Everything I wrote is related to what you said, which I analyzed piece by piece. You are not reading what I wrote, though.

 

#ShortLivesMatter? I can't describe how wrong that is, and am constrained by the rules of this forum. Just because you can't understand the pain and hardship of being a short man, because you're not one yourself, doesn't give you or anybody else the right to trivialize it once again.

 

I'm saying if your setting the discrimination line at "won't date someone because of a physical trait," then everyone on the planet is guilty of discrimination, because we all have things we find unattractive.

 

Height discrimination is relative -- there is the natural, and the ridiculous. We cannot promote the ridiculous.

 

As impressive as your ability to Google things is,

 

Yes, I have facts and research on my side. I'm not just giving an opinion, I'm giving an informed opinion. There's nothing bad about that. It's usually a good thing.

 

my point about large breasts had nothing to do with the average cup size or the availability of breast augmentation surgeries. The point is that large breasts are a physical trait many men find attractive, that not all women have. No amount of education will change what those men find attractive.

 

You're taking two things of completely different magnitudes and details and making them equal. Most women are well-endowed; women who are not can become well-endowed; most men are much more open-minded about breast size than women are about height.

 

All this whining about how women prefer men above 6 feet is ridiculous.

 

Now you're insulting just about everybody here. At least half a dozen other guys in this thread are "whining about how women prefer men above 6 feet."

 

It's a preference for some women, and a dealbreaker for a select few.

 

70%... Not some.

 

Sure, women may say they want a guy above a certain height, but it's not like they're walking around carrying tape measures making sure potential suitors meet their height minimum. They either think you're attractive or they don't.

 

If a woman doesn't find you attractive because of your height, that's her right, just like it's your right not to find every woman in the world attractive.

 

Education and awareness can help women who are dreaming of a guy in the 14 per cent to make more balanced and realistic choices. Preferences can be learned. A hundred years ago, dating a black man was enough to send society into a rage.

[NJ123]

No, and I never said anything to that effect. Like almost everything else I wrote, you're completely missing the point so you can go off on your lengthy tangent about how #ShortLivesMatter. I'm saying if your setting the discrimination line at "won't date someone because of a physical trait," then everyone on the planet is guilty of discrimination, because we all have things we find unattractive.

 

As impressive as your ability to Google things is, my point about large breasts had nothing to do with the average cup size or the availability of breast augmentation surgeries. The point is that large breasts are a physical trait many men find attractive, that not all women have. No amount of education will change what those men find attractive.

 

All this whining about how women prefer men above 6 feet is ridiculous. It's a preference for some women, and a dealbreaker for a select few. Sure, women may say they want a guy above a certain height, but it's not like they're walking around carrying tape measures making sure potential suitors meet their height minimum. They either think you're attractive or they don't. If a woman doesn't find you attractive because of your height, that's her right, just like it's your right not to find every woman in the world attractive.

 

As far as online dating goes, it's a crapshoot for everyone. Yes, it favors men who are tall, handsome, and successful. Welcome to life.

 

The difference though is you can get implants for larger breasts you can't get a larger height unless you risk severe injury by getting the surgery done. Height is one of the only things you can't change at all.

[Versacehottie]

Clearly few people here agree with that. Just because it's a discussion doesn't mean it's a free-for-all. It was an insensitive (disrespectful toward the situations of many participants) and irrational (bordering on absurd) remark and I'm glad it was apologized for.

 

 

 

Folks who complain about political correctness are often the folks who want to have the right to offend.

 

Besides, we're not trying to PC anything. By spreading awareness and using *facts* we have to influence "preferences," attitudes, and treatment in the dating world to make them more ethical -- and more practical too. Women have to learn to stop lining up for Titans. With 70 per cent of women saying they wouldn't date anybody under 6 feet, that means 70 per cent of women are dreaming about 14 per cent of men. This doesn't lead to a positive outcome for either.

 

We've changed awareness and thinking in other areas of discrimination. Interracial and interfaith dating is much more common than it used to be. We have fatshaming, slutshaming, maybe it's time we had shortshaming too.

 

 

 

What can they "do about it"? It's a genetic trait, isn't it?

 

 

Some guys go single for years because of their height. Again, this issue is being trivialized.

 

 

 

By blaming them on "biological, uncontrollable preferences," you remove the actual human practitioners of the discrimination from the equation. It's just like racism -- people have preferences, it's nobody's fault.

 

 

 

What do you think men of lower stature are doing already?

 

 

And one person who smoked for 96 years lived to be 122.

 

A guy shouldn't have to be Elijah Wood or Tony Montana to have a partner, for Pete's sake. Nobody's gonna work and make a huge long-term project out of convincing others that their height doesn't make them undateable.

 

The problem isn't with short men, the problem is with discrimination and those who practice it.

 

oh ok, i can see you are just one of the ones that wants to complain about what is. Instead of wanting to do anything about it. It's not insensitive and you do want a PC answer. This is not really an "ethical" issue. People like what they like. Research the facts: it is a biological preference. I'm trying to give you reasons that it should not matter to you as in IN SPITE of that, there are ways around it, that YOU can apply specifically, which is no less ridiculous than trying to convince an entire gender that their preferences should evolve. If you want YOUR particular situation to change (which I pretty much think it would the moment you had a gf) then do something about it with what you have.

 

BTW, I just got back from spending time with my gf who has been away and her new guy that she really really likes is 5'6". So maybe there is another reason you are not having success? As this thread was on my mind, I asked what his personality was like, she said super confident, assured and smart. Has his sh*t together. So height isn't stopping her.

 

I still don't find the other poster remark in the least offensive. It was not directed at you; she was just stating her preferences and reasons why. It may be slightly silly to prefer a guy that is that much taller than herself but it is what is going on in her head.

 

What you can 'do about it" is develop the rest of yourself and stop harping on it and worrying about "shoulds"; it comes of as bitter which will definitely hurt you in the dating world. In other words you are not doing yourself any favors by being hung up on something you cannot change. Not trying to trivialize anything you are going through--just trying to make you see the light; your height isn't going to change, so you attitude about it better. It's you that sees yourself as "less than" with because you are worried about women's preferences. It will stop you some of the time but not all of the time. It only takes one to be your gf/wife. Be the best you and put that forth and the right girl will appreciate you for you. BTW, if you had read all my posts on this thread you would know i personally don't mind if a guy is shorter. That's not me being PC--because I never would be since it is not necessary on this thread. I'm just stating my preferences. Height would not be a deal breaker for me, while other things would. No one is trying to offend you by stating their dating history:sick:

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Lots of women on dating sites have crummy long-term experiences because their unrealistic height preferences lead to a tiny pool of men who are already deluged with women and consequently love being players. Lots of women have found that they can improve their experience by changing their height restrictions online (which is a way of changing their preferences). By losing an artificial limiting fixation on Titan height they widen their pool of possible dating partners and meet better men. So yes, we do need to "whine" about many girls only dating men 6 feet tall or over. It would benefit everyone. There's really nothing wrong with what I'm advocating here.