Snagging someone else's woman - An Alpha move?

[jen1447]

When I met my current GF she was divorced and living with the love of her life. He was a semi-pro boxer, who was a look alike to her favorite actor Steven Segal. I just waited until he made a mistake, it took about 2 years. We have now been together for 20 plus years.

 

You didn't have to, you know, box him at some point?

 

I can't imagine!! First, having a BF that was so spineless that he would just say "yeah okay you can have her" and the fact that she could just be "traded" like a commodity.

 

There is (or can be) a certain street hierarchy to this stuff. Not sure what I'd expect a 150 lb. nerdy accountant to do if The Rock came along and 'took' his GF - volunteer for an ass-kicking?

[NTV]

There is (or can be) a certain street hierarchy to this stuff. Not sure what I'd expect a 150 lb. nerdy accountant to do if The Rock came along and 'took' his GF - volunteer for an ass-kicking?

 

 

Hopefully the same thing you'd expect the Rock to do if a 150 lb nerdy accountant came along and 'took' his GF.

 

 

Pretty sure he'd just get a new one if he wanted one.

 

 

I'd bet it wouldn't take him long at all to do it either.

[S_A]

You didn't have to, you know, box him at some point?

 

 

 

There is (or can be) a certain street hierarchy to this stuff. Not sure what I'd expect a 150 lb. nerdy accountant to do if The Rock came along and 'took' his GF - volunteer for an ass-kicking?

 

Haha. Doesn't matter if it's The Rock or like 3 guys. If they think they can get away with approaching me and my GF and saying "you're girl is mine now", they are dead wrong

 

I don't otherwise blame a guy for trying to see if he can get the taken girl using more tasteful methods.

 

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[jen1447]

Haha. Doesn't matter if it's The Rock or like 3 guys. If they think they can get away with approaching me and my GF and saying "you're girl is mine now", they are dead wrong

 

Yeah but you're a big guy. What's the little guy supposed to do when he's assured of an ass-kicking? (And I don't mean the secret Bruce Lee, I mean the guy who will unequivocally get his ass kicked if he stands up.)

[SammySammy]

Haha. Doesn't matter if it's The Rock or like 3 guys. If they think they can get away with approaching me and my GF and saying "you're girl is mine now", they are dead wrong

 

How so?

 

What is it about you that ensures no man can take your woman?

[deadparrot]

No.

 

Believe it or not, women are sentient creatures with their own wills. We can't be "snagged." She has to want to be with you. Thinking otherwise isn't macho or super sexy; it's domineering and creepy.

[Jabron1]

I've met a few of these alpha men and it's funny how a run in with divorce system soon reduces these men to beta and omega males. They lose everything, their wealth, their house, their children and are reduced to shells of their former selves.

 

It's a beautiful sight watching these men destroyed by not another man but a system of justice.

 

Enjoying other peoples misery says more about you than it does them.

 

Tragic.

 

The only men that are alpha's are judges, barristers and solicitors

 

That's not alpha.

 

That's called 'being a parasite'.

 

everyone else is a beta and omega male and that includes me.

 

You speak for yourself.

 

I have no interest in marriage, and therefore being raped by the government.

 

Good point to make that the default frame for men in modern marriage is subservience though.

[xxoo]

When young and dating, ie: uncommitted, it's not uncommon or at all surprising when someone breaks up because they met someone they they are more interested in. The key word here is: uncommitted.

[Jabron1]

Which will likely result in the little guy getting his ass kicked. Or maybe just stood upside down in the garbage can or sth while the 'stolen' GF looks at him w/exasperation for being whiny

 

You grow a pair. This is the right attitude:

 

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ae/ee/4f/aeee4f06b342ebeb526be0bed1bf7b15.jpg

 

One of my closest mates growing up was really small, but he was absolutely nuts. I would have loved for anyone to try and dare putting him in a dustbin

 

It's not the size of the dog in the fight; it's the size of the fight in the dog.

[SammySammy]

Contests between men are not always physical altercations. Most times they are not.

 

In a competition between The Rock and the 150 pound accountant, we really don't know which one is dominant. We can assume it's The Rock because of physical size and strength, but that may not be the case. The Rock could be woefully outmatched and outclassed in so many other areas. And his size rendered useless if there is no physical altercation.

 

The lead dog in the pack is not always the biggest dog.

[xxoo]

Contests between men are not always physical altercations. Most times they are not.

 

In a competition between The Rock and the 150 pound accountant, we really don't know which one is dominant. We can assume it's The Rock because of physical size and strength, but that may not be the case. The Rock could be woefully outmatched and outclassed in so many other areas. And his size rendered useless if there is no physical altercation.

 

The lead dog in the pack is not always the biggest dog.

 

Maybe an imperfect example, because The Rock would likely win based on wealth, not size.

[jen1447]

LOL ....everyone's getting caught up in the card but the card doesn't matter. Insert whatever sizes and identities you want (gentle giant vs. Bruce Lee, whatever) - how is the one who's unmistakingly going to lose in a fight supposed to react to the one who's unmistakingly going to win big-stuffing on his GF and 'taking' her right in front of him like in the original example? (And it's safe to assume that taking on a fake badass attitude as a bluff will not lead to an actual victory in a fight if you can't actually fight, trust me.)

 

The reason I asked this at all was in response to RC's objection to any guy simply allowing this to happen.

[Jabron1]

LOL ....everyone's getting caught up in the card but the card doesn't matter. Insert whatever sizes and identities you want (gentle giant vs. Bruce Lee, whatever) - how is the one who's unmistakingly going to lose in a fight supposed to react to the one who's unmistakingly going to win big-stuffing on his GF and 'taking' her right in front of him like in the original example? (And it's safe to assume that taking on a fake badass attitude as a bluff will not lead to an actual victory in a fight if you can't actually fight, trust me.)

 

The reason I asked this at all was in response to RC's objection to any guy simply allowing this to happen.

 

I would suggest he pick up a weapon.

 

More than one way to skin a cat.

[SammySammy]

Maybe an imperfect example, because The Rock would likely win based on wealth, not size.

 

Perhaps.

 

The context clues "150 pounds", "getting ass kicked" and "stood upside down in the garbage can" led me to believe she was assuming physical prowess always determines the winner. It doesn't. And that was my point.

[NTV]

Perhaps.

 

The context clues "150 pounds", "getting ass kicked" and "stood upside down in the garbage can" led me to believe she was assuming physical prowess always determines the winner. It doesn't. And that was my point.

 

Lol, especially if it was HIS accountant.

[SammySammy]

Lol, especially if it was HIS accountant.

 

Or the "accountant" who just happened to build and own the studio that hired him.

 

Put his girl on the casting couch and give her back to him.

[jen1447]

I would suggest he pick up a weapon.

 

More than one way to skin a cat.

 

And then you go to jail, and probably still lose the fight anyway.

 

My point here is that there are some impossible situations for some ppl, so it's not always a matter of 'letting' it happen like a pushover.

 

I think there is a suitable line tho, which is to take the high road at all times unless and until it becomes a matter of your integrity and self esteem being damaged beyond repair. If that ever happens, bscly your identity itself is threatened, and in that case it'd be better to try, and take the beating, rather than just walk away. At least then you could look at yourself in the mirror down the line and know you stood up.

[S_A]

I would suggest he pick up a weapon.

 

More than one way to skin a cat.

 

Jen's points are valid, but I was sort of thinking the same thing. The guy in the OP's story could use his car as a weapon for instance. However, such actions depend (usually) on two things. (1) If the guy has a lot of pride, and (2) whether or not the guy has a "good life." The second one is important because if a guy has nothing to lose, then he'll have no problem with running the Rock over with a car. Though I've seen guys with a lot to lose do stupid stuff before simply because they had way too much pride. Some super successful guys can be this way (big egos etc).

 

How so?

 

What is it about you that ensures no man can take your woman?

 

Not sure I follow the question. I was not addressing whether I think it's possible for another man to take my GF away from me. Do you mean to ask what makes me think I can't get beat up? I don't think I can't get beat up. I've just never been afraid of getting "beat up."

[xxoo]

It's not worth fighting for someone who doesn't want to be "won".

 

And if she wants to be with you, you won't have to fight.....

[basil67]

Wooing a girl who isn't particularly content in her relationship is fair game.....strong arming her out is anther thing altogether.

[Jabron1]

And then you go to jail, and probably still lose the fight anyway.

 

In my experience, 99.9% of the time the other person is all mouth (especially when they're in a group). They don't want to take things that far, because people usually value their own skin.

 

I've been in loads of 'altercations', and never been to jail (other than for 24 hours - slap on the wrist).

 

My point here is that there are some impossible situations for some ppl, so it's not always a matter of 'letting' it happen like a pushover.

 

Not always. There are a sh*tload of variables.

 

I think there is a suitable line tho, which is to take the high road at all times unless and until it becomes a matter of your integrity and self esteem being damaged beyond repair.

 

Learning when and how to walk away is an art-form unto itself.

 

It's something I'm learning as I get older. I think it shows maturity.

 

If that ever happens, bscly your identity itself is threatened, and in that case it'd be better to try, and take the beating, rather than just walk away. At least then you could look at yourself in the mirror down the line and know you stood up.

 

Exactly. I completely agree.

[Jabron1]

It's not worth fighting for someone who doesn't want to be "won".

 

And if she wants to be with you, you won't have to fight.....

 

My dad always told me growing up: "you can't fight for a woman's honour if she doesn't have any".

[SammySammy]

It's not worth fighting for someone who doesn't want to be "won".

 

And if she wants to be with you, you won't have to fight.....

 

True.

 

As pimps are fond of saying "the game is all about choice".

 

At the end of the day, the only thing standing between any guy's woman and the next man is a decision.

 

How big you are, how much money you have, how "alpha" you act doesn't matter when she decides she wants to be with that guy over there.

 

The problem with this whole discussion is men assuming we have some control over what women do with their bodies. We don't. We can be as bad as we want to be. She still decides.

[Aniela]

To the OP: marital bliss? Maybe she was too afraid to leave him. He sounds abusive.

 

I used to know someone who thought it would be fine for him to steal another man's woman (note the words: used to know).

[Gloria25]

Maybe. Maybe not.

 

The first time I saw the girl I spoke of in my previous post, she was surrounded by three guys trying to pick her up. As she laughed off their attempts, she looked past them and made eye contact with me. From that initial eye contact, I knew we were going to be together.

 

I suppose I could have busted up that group of guys and "snagged" her to prove I was "alpha". But, it wasn't necessary. She had made her choice without me having to prove anything to anyone.

 

There is a difference between being alpha and acting alpha. Many times being rude, disrespectful and acting "tough" just shows insecurity and weakness. The opposite of what guys trying to be "alpha" think they're doing.

 

Perfect...

 

Cuz if stealing someone's man/woman is the only way you can validate your sorry self, then you're sorry.