Snagging someone else's woman - An Alpha move?

[xxoo]

Devil's advocate:

 

Is there really anything wrong with breaking up with one dating partner because you meet someone you like more? Not all dating relationships are meant to last.

[Gloria25]

My dad always told me growing up: "you can't fight for a woman's honour if she doesn't have any".

 

Yep...

 

If that person thrives on two or more people fighting over them, they are sorry too.

[Aniela]

Devil's advocate:

 

Is there really anything wrong with breaking up with one dating partner because you meet someone you like more? Not all dating relationships are meant to last.

 

It's better than cheating.

[jen1447]

Jen's points are valid, but I was sort of thinking the same thing. The guy in the OP's story could use his car as a weapon for instance.

 

You're talking about murdering somebody or gravely injuring them, bc they took your GF or maybe even punched you. That's not legitimate use of force and you'll go to jail for that for like 30 years at least. Same principle if you grab a table leg and beat someone over the head with it - that's a deadly weapon and a totally diff realm than the fist-based beating the he-man's gonna give the weak guy if he stands up.

 

I really don't think any circumstance would be worth ruining your life over, even if she is the love of your life. So that leaves us with the mano-a-mano battle of fists that criminal law looks less severely on that we started out with, the way real men settle their differences and the way weak guys get their asses kicked.

[lana-banana]

Devil's advocate:

 

Is there really anything wrong with breaking up with one dating partner because you meet someone you like more? Not all dating relationships are meant to last.

 

I can't agree more. This is why dating exists! Dating relationships are only as permanent as the involved parties want to be. There's nothing wrong or shameful about realizing there's someone you love (or could come to love) more than your current partner.

 

People are not inanimate objects devoid of free will. Nobody is "stolen" or "snagged" away from someone else. If you truly love your current partner, you're not going to be affected by someone else making a play for your affections. When someone leaves it's because they chose to do so, not because of someone else's magical alpha male powers.

[minimariah]

Is there really anything wrong with breaking up with one dating partner because you meet someone you like more? Not all dating relationships are meant to last.

 

not at all. i always thought that was a perfectly logical & sane reason to dump someone - you met someone you like better. isn't that the point of dating anyway?

[alphamale]

Snagging someone else's woman - An Alpha move?

I resemble that comment

[2.50 a gallon]

Jen

No boxing?

The truth is I won her heart by baking cookies. How is that for being Alpha?And when it comes to fighting, remember the old saying, "It is not size of the dog in a fight, it is the size of the fight in the dog."

In my case I weighed a whole 135 pounds, and aged 45 to his 200 plus, age 35 and a trained fighter. How would he explain that to the cops?

[S_A]

You're talking about murdering somebody or gravely injuring them, bc they took your GF or maybe even punched you. That's not legitimate use of force and you'll go to jail for that for like 30 years at least. Same principle if you grab a table leg and beat someone over the head with it - that's a deadly weapon and a totally diff realm than the fist-based beating the he-man's gonna give the weak guy if he stands up.

 

I really don't think any circumstance would be worth ruining your life over, even if she is the love of your life. So that leaves us with the mano-a-mano battle of fists that criminal law looks less severely on that we started out with, the way real men settle their differences and the way weak guys get their asses kicked.

 

All valid points... But I'm not talking about myself I'm talking about the guy with way too much pride and nothing lose. That guy, no matter how small, will do something stupid/crazy. It's no different than gangbangers killing themselves over the smallest things. It's the combination of pride and feeling like you've got nothing to lose that trumps the fear of ounishment. I have a lot to lose and don't have a senseless amount of pride

 

Also, street fights are seldomly about fairness and "fighting like men". It's usually just about hurting the other guy as much as possible. I had a childhood friend who had a brother that was a gangbanger (my friend was not the gangbanger type though, he was straight and, last I heard, became a doctor) and he would say that if he had any interest in fighting fairly that he'd step in to a boxing ring.

Edited May 25, 2016 by S_A

[NTV]

Why does this while thread remind me of the song "bad bad Leroy Brown"?

[preraph]

In my better days, I was mostly around guys who could steal women. But I have to say that I can't imagine most of them were very serious about the woman, knowing she was that easily distracted. It's probably just about sex and ego gratification when a guy keeps doing that. I know women who do it too. Mostly just to see if they can and feel more attractive, best I can tell.

[oldshirt]

People walk in and take other guy's GFs all the time, but they don't always have to be "alpha."

 

 

Many times it is actually the more beta guy that takes the girl.

 

 

You hear about it all the time, the BF is a self centered jerk that doesn't treat the girl right or leaves her feeling unappreciated or disrespected. Along comes mr nice boy who befriends the girl and gives her a shoulder to cry on and then starts making statements like, "no way anyone should treat someone as nice as you like that.." and "he must be a real dumbazz to treat someone as beautiful as you like that..." and then the knock out blow comes in the form of, "if you were mygirl, I would never treat you like that and I would always treat you......."

[oldshirt]

not at all. i always thought that was a perfectly logical & sane reason to dump someone - you met someone you like better. isn't that the point of dating anyway?

 

 

 

It really is.

 

 

There is no commitment in dating. Dating is spending time with someone and doing things with them to get to know them to determine if that is the person you want to marry and make a home and family with.

 

 

It is a noncommittal interview and probationary period where either party can terminate the process at any time for any reason.

 

 

An opportunity for someone better is a valid reason.

 

 

It hurts and stings and sucks when you are the one left standing without a chair when the music stops but that is the price we pay for living in a society where each individual choses their own mates rather than living in a culture of arranged marriages.

 

 

In a free market society, it is up to the individual to be the best option.

[Gloria25]

I can't agree more. This is why dating exists! Dating relationships are only as permanent as the involved parties want to be. There's nothing wrong or shameful about realizing there's someone you love (or could come to love) more than your current partner.

 

People are not inanimate objects devoid of free will. Nobody is "stolen" or "snagged" away from someone else. If you truly love your current partner, you're not going to be affected by someone else making a play for your affections. When someone leaves it's because they chose to do so, not because of someone else's magical alpha male powers.

 

I agree, but we're talking about people who "hunt" for taken people, and who go to extremes (ie showing up at your place naked) to get the taken person.

 

And yes, while in dating we have a right to come/go, if you're so fickle that someone can just walk in and shatter what you had with your SO, then maybe you need a reality check, cuz till the day we die, there's always gonna be someone smarter, hotter, etcer than what we got. Maturity and chosing wisely means you're happy with what you got, and not going out for a quick and exciting hamburger when you have a well done steak at home.

[Poutrew]

Contests between men are not always physical altercations. Most times they are not.

 

In a competition between The Rock and the 150 pound accountant, we really don't know which one is dominant. We can assume it's The Rock because of physical size and strength, but that may not be the case. The Rock could be woefully outmatched and outclassed in so many other areas. And his size rendered useless if there is no physical altercation.

 

The lead dog in the pack is not always the biggest dog.

 

So true.

I had a friend in high school who would get constantly picked on by the bully - a large, muscled boy who would love to pounce on my pal, knock him down and pound on him while laughing. One time my friend had had enough, and snapped. While he was on the ground getting face punched, he reached into the bully's shorts, grabbed his testicles and squeezed hard, while also pulling as hard as he could, and he wouldn't let go. The guy started screaming with an ear piercing volume. Finally campus security came and managed to pull him off the guy, who had to be taken to the hospital to get things surgically repaired. It was a mess, the police were called, and charges were pressed - and dropped when things were investigated. Alpha boy was never seen again.

 

Finally, though I would NEVER condone this, especially for something so worthless as fighting over a woman who has shown by her behavior that she is nothing more than a chimpanzee, there is a way of hitting someone in the nose in just the right way to break the septum at the bridge and drive it into the lower part of the brain...

 

So who is the 'alpha'? Most big guys don't mess with smaller, apparently weaker guys because they do not know how the small guy will respond if they feel threatened... and like a cop has told me directly, just say the legal words " I was threatened, and was in fear of my life..."

[S_A]

We are all in agreement. Just because someone is dating another person does not mean that they don't owe it to themselves to go for the better option if one comes along. The issue here though is about some guy going up to another, looking him in the eye, and telling him that his woman belongs to him now. Like wtf? In reality there is probably more to the story. The person that told the story to the OP probably romanticized it a bit over the years.

[JustGettingBy]

One thing I can guarantee if you snag someone else's woman:

 

you have the type of woman someone else can snag.

 

Doesn't seem like the formula if you want to start anything long term.

[Jabron1]

there is a way of hitting someone in the nose in just the right way to break the septum at the bridge and drive it into the lower part of the brain...

 

 

The issue here though is about some guy going up to another, looking him in the eye, and telling him that his woman belongs to him now. Like wtf? In reality there is probably more to the story. The person that told the story to the OP probably romanticized it a bit over the years.

 

I agree. I've never encountered anything as brazen as this before. People are usually far more sneaky than this.

 

Closest that I've seen to the OP's story in my life was when I was on a night out with an ex girlfriend and some other friends. We walked past a group of drunken lads, and one of them said to me "can we borrow your girlfriend, mate?".

 

I said to him "you wouldn't know what to do with her, you C... (see you next tuesday ).

 

And that was that. Nothing happened, and we carried on walking down the street.

 

You've got to stick up for yourself though. What next? Will the guy take his car too? Perhaps the shoes off his feet while he's at it lol.

[PrettyEmily77]

No.

 

Believe it or not, women are sentient creatures with their own wills. We can't be "snagged." She has to want to be with you. Thinking otherwise isn't macho or super sexy; it's domineering and creepy.

 

It's controlling and super patronising, in fact.

 

Pretty sure the dude wanting to 'snag' someone else's woman (like it's a jungle) doesn't give a second thought to the other guy; it's not like property deeds need to be co-signed in order to take possession of the merchandise.

 

Such an odd way of thinking...

[xxoo]

One thing I can guarantee if you snag someone else's woman:

 

you have the type of woman someone else can snag.

 

Doesn't seem like the formula if you want to start anything long term.

 

Nah, this is incredibly common and normal among young daters. What happens is that they eventually meet someone they want to be with long term, which is not everyone they date. The purpose of dating is to learn if this is someone you want to commit to.

[salparadise]

not at all. i always thought that was a perfectly logical & sane reason to dump someone - you met someone you like better. isn't that the point of dating anyway?

 

Yea, from the female perspective I'm sure it is. And for some, bolder is better.

 

I went to high school with a guy who was every woman's dream. A few years later he was still single and he go out to the bars with friends. The friends would be doing the usual thing where they'd approach women who gave them a glance and hope they didn't get humiliated. But this guy... he wasn't interested in anything that easy. His objective was always to steal the hottest woman in the place who was there with a boyfriend/husband and get her to leave with him. And he was successful more often than not.

 

He eventually got married. I've always wondered what tricks that woman knew. There are many aspects to the whole mate selection dance. The most desirable women are almost never single...

[Buddhist]

Alpha male threads are always entertaining but like many an urban legend they're also full of it. Lets face it guys will say anything to impress another guy. Sure does make for an interesting bedtime story back in 1954 when I was practically James Dean blah, blah, blah. Yeah right.....

[xxoo]

Yea, from the female perspective I'm sure it is. And for some, bolder is better.

 

Not just the female perspective. Guys do it, too. In fact, my H had a girlfriend when we met. He monkey-branched to me.

[Jabron1]

There are many aspects to the whole mate selection dance. The most desirable women are almost never single...

 

I agree. If the woman is at least decent looking, she'll probably have an orbiter hanging around that is going to get upset - at minimum.

 

I personally draw the line at doing what the guy in the original post did though.

 

IMO the guy isn't alpha. Any alpha knows that a woman is replaceable, so why even start that kind of trouble over one? He gets oneitis over this broad, stalks her at work, strong arms the weak boyfriend, then locks her down with marriage lol. Pathetic, the lot of it.

 

It's different if the guy she's with is a 'friend' or whatever. Then it's game on. But to strong-arm a boyfriend, and try to take her right in front of him is just scumbag behaviour IMO.

 

Guess we all have different lines though. Ultimately, the boyfriend was weak and pathetic - he'll have to find a woman less desirable where he can hold his own.

[xxoo]