Larryville Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I don't know if I agree with all of this, but was an interesting read. Don't kill the messenger, I threw out a few examples. 100 Things All Women Need To Know About Men (According to 100 Men) 100 Things All Women Need To Know About Men (According to 100 Men) | Thought Catalog 20. Don’t ever assume what’s going on in our minds. “Don’t ever assume what’s going on in our mind. You might think we’re having doubts about all this and things are going to **** so you start acting like it and then it gets all messed up and it’s over. The truth is we’re probably just thinking about the last episode of Game of Thrones or something like that. If you want to know, ask!” 28. If a guy likes you a lot, he will make time for you. “If a guy likes you a lot, he will make time for you. If you are getting a lot of maybes and excuses, just move on.” 33. We quite often lack the emotional intelligence or desire to articulate our feelings. “Assuming you’re dealing with a normal male, what we say is what we mean, and what we mean is what we say. Any hidden meanings are a fiction invented by you; we don’t use that channel to communicate. Conversely, do not use obfuscated communication methods with men for important topics; the odds of us missing or misinterpreting such a communication are high. Do not talk about problems unless you are prepared to discuss the solution. If we say we don’t care, we don’t. Especially as regards what we eat. If we say we don’t care, we’re not saying we don’t care who we eat with or whether we’ll eat, only that we don’t care what we eat or where we eat. We’re generally **** at going to the doctors or dentists. Even in countries where healthcare is free. Remind us to check for cancer from time to time, or do it for us where possible/appropriate. Our emotions tend to build up over time, as we quite often lack the emotional intelligence or desire to articulate our feelings. Fortunately, they also fade over time without any obvious outlets, so only sustained angst or serious trauma will have a long-lasting effect.” 55. Your enthusiasm is what makes sex good for us. “What makes sex good? One thing more than anything. ENTHUSIASM. It doesn’t matter how hot you are if I’m banging you and you seem bored. Or if the BJ is like a chore or something. Nothing kills the mood quicker.” 2 Link to post Share on other sites
T-16bullseyeWompRat Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 100? More like 30 with several repeated over and over. I agree with a lot of these too, but how many different ways can you say "men arent mind readers". Apparently these men cant count either, or are too stupid to notice they arenrepeating themselves. Link to post Share on other sites
Buddhist Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) I'm never a fan of these lists because they make men seem one-dimensional, lacking in maturity, uninterested in personal growth. Who really wants to partner up with that? I know I don't. It might as well have read.....100 reasons why men are empty vessels. Yeah I don't really want to be confronted with the reality that half of the world's population lack emotional intelligence and maturity. It's kind of depressing. I hated the Men are From Mars malarky too. It perpetuated this idea that having testicles somehow makes you an alien species. And one that just can't handle an emotion and needs to go hide away in a cave to get away from the scary feels. Total bull**** if you ask me. This stuff perpetuates gender stereotypes more than anything. It doesn't foster any understanding that actually we are both the same species, with the same brain, the same neurons the same electrical impulses. If men are lacking in emotional intelligence, it's not biology, it's upbringing. Aka....gender stereotype. Men are just as capable of emotional intelligence as anyone else. Edited June 22, 2016 by Buddhist 3 Link to post Share on other sites
T-16bullseyeWompRat Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I'm never a fan of these lists because they make men seem one-dimensional, lacking in maturity, uninterested in personal growth. Who really wants to partner up with that? I know I don't. It might as well have read.....100 reasons why men are empty vessels. Yeah I don't really want to be confronted with the reality that half of the world's population lack emotional intelligence and maturity. It's kind of depressing. I hated the Men are From Mars malarky too. It perpetuated this idea that having testicles somehow makes you an alien species. And one that just can't handle an emotion and needs to go hide away in a cave to get away from the scary feels. Total bull**** if you ask me. This stuff perpetuates gender stereotypes more than anything. It doesn't foster any understanding that actually we are both the same species, with the same brain, the same neurons the same electrical impulses. If men are lacking in emotional intelligence, it's not biology, it's upbringing. Aka....gender stereotype. Men are just as capable of emotional intelligence as anyone else. Dude, stereotypes exist for a reason. Women think differently then men. Men think differently then women. It's not that it CAN'T happen. But it more often then not does. Like when I say black people don't like cats. I'm not saying there is no way a black person could be a cat person. Just generally speaking most dont like cats. There isn't anything wrong with pointing it out. If it's true of 90 out off 100 people, you can make that stereotype. They aren't just thought up out of nowhere. I mean if it was 50/50 black people I know who like cats and dont like them, I wouldn't make the statement. But it's more like 90/10. Bugs me when people act like stereotypes are just made up out of the blue. No, they are based on factual numbers and such. Now go poll all your black friends and see if they like cats. Bet more then on black person will respond "black people don't like cats" lol. Stereotype's exist for a reason. Why are people so butt hurt by this? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Aniela Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 100 things?? And (some) men say women are complicated. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
T-16bullseyeWompRat Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) 100 things?? And (some) men say women are complicated. Lol. If you read it, trust me it's not close to 100. It's repeat after repeat. We get it, men aren't mind readers. We get it, sex is about you being into it more than how hot you are. Some of these are true though. If you are hot just say, "honey can you turn down the AC please?" Instead of "man I'm hot". Or "sure is hot in here." While secretly wanting us to turn down the AC for them. Lol. Just say it!! For the 40th time on that list... men aren't mind readers! Edit:. See you have to use (some) cause there are too many people who would get butt hurt if you generalize right there. Good job covering your bases! Edited June 22, 2016 by T-16bullseyeWompRat Link to post Share on other sites
Author Larryville Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 we are all a result of the company that we keep. the list is very repetitive because the bottom line is a good number of dudes just simply aren't that deep. More and more people particularly young boys simply aren't raised to be communicative and expressive. not to get into not to get into a societal debate but the more young boys that grew up without fathers to teach them how to be in relationships and how to treat women many of these silly listed stereotypes will continue horn future relationships harm future relationships. A good number of the guys that participate on this site have high EQs and are able to express. And likely don't fit many of these listed items. But as stated the stereotypes exist for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Aniela Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I'm skimming the list right now, but they're losing me with things like, "don't stick your __ in crazy." I wasn't shooting the messenger, before - that was my reaction to the title. Several times, I've seen, "men are shy, too" and "girls can ask guys out". One man was staring at me the other night, looked away once, but started looking again. Was I supposed to walk over, sit down next to him, and across from his friend, and ask why he was staring at me? I didn't want to, so I didn't. Usually, if I reach that point, I will be asking out of frustration, not interest. Link to post Share on other sites
BlueIris Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I don't know if I agree with all of this, but was an interesting read. Don't kill the messenger, I threw out a few examples. 100 Things All Women Need To Know About Men (According to 100 Men) 100 Things All Women Need To Know About Men (According to 100 Men) | Thought Catalog 20. Don’t ever assume what’s going on in our minds. “Don’t ever assume what’s going on in our mind. You might think we’re having doubts about all this and things are going to **** so you start acting like it and then it gets all messed up and it’s over. The truth is we’re probably just thinking about the last episode of Game of Thrones or something like that. If you want to know, ask!” 28. If a guy likes you a lot, he will make time for you. “If a guy likes you a lot, he will make time for you. If you are getting a lot of maybes and excuses, just move on.” 33. We quite often lack the emotional intelligence or desire to articulate our feelings. “Assuming you’re dealing with a normal male, what we say is what we mean, and what we mean is what we say. Any hidden meanings are a fiction invented by you; we don’t use that channel to communicate. Conversely, do not use obfuscated communication methods with men for important topics; the odds of us missing or misinterpreting such a communication are high. Do not talk about problems unless you are prepared to discuss the solution. If we say we don’t care, we don’t. Especially as regards what we eat. If we say we don’t care, we’re not saying we don’t care who we eat with or whether we’ll eat, only that we don’t care what we eat or where we eat. We’re generally **** at going to the doctors or dentists. Even in countries where healthcare is free. Remind us to check for cancer from time to time, or do it for us where possible/appropriate. Our emotions tend to build up over time, as we quite often lack the emotional intelligence or desire to articulate our feelings. Fortunately, they also fade over time without any obvious outlets, so only sustained angst or serious trauma will have a long-lasting effect.” 55. Your enthusiasm is what makes sex good for us. “What makes sex good? One thing more than anything. ENTHUSIASM. It doesn’t matter how hot you are if I’m banging you and you seem bored. Or if the BJ is like a chore or something. Nothing kills the mood quicker.” It's funny... These also apply to women, at least the women I know- though I wouldn't say "lack the emotional intelligence," but definitely lack the desire to articulate our feelings. Link to post Share on other sites
T-16bullseyeWompRat Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 It's funny... These also apply to women, at least the women I know- though I wouldn't say "lack the emotional intelligence," but definitely lack the desire to articulate our feelings. Meh, lack of ability. That John Legend song, all of me. I couldn't have thought of that. I told my wife that is how a lot of men feel about their women, we just didn't have the ability to express it as well as he did in that song. Lol. We just don't think that deeply. Sure some men can. He did. I agree with his song and feel that way about my wife. No chance I could have written those lyrics haha. I don't lack the desire, but I do lack the ability. Maybe that's my lack of emotional intelligence coming through 2 Link to post Share on other sites
JustGettingBy Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I view this the same way I view things like "things men need to know about women by 100 women", in that a lot of them give you the right idea, but it is by no means a 'perfect' list. Link to post Share on other sites
ChickiePops Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 All of these have counterparts on the other side. Relationships mean compromise..they mean making an effort to understand each other..not just to roll over and allow men or women to do whatever they want because of some silly list. Both the man and the woman have to understand things about each other and both should be willing to be courteous to their significant others quirks or needs. That basically makes this list moot. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Larryville Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 All of these have counterparts on the other side. Relationships mean compromise..they mean making an effort to understand each other..not just to roll over and allow men or women to do whatever they want because of some silly list. Both the man and the woman have to understand things about each other and both should be willing to be courteous to their significant others quirks or needs. I’m going to steal some content from another thread to help make a point… I deactivate my tinder after I get 20 matches. I like to focus on chatting to those guys and meeting 2-3 that I get on with the most before I start the next batch..... Next batch...what are we, cookies? With both sexes treating OLD as an assembly line of cookies to be sampled and discarded, any residual disappointment. Does the guy sound like a douche? Sure but then again he didn't lie to her either. He just continued to do what he was doing while getting a little extra on side with you. If that's not the way you want to play then perhaps it's time to change the game. Communicate. Simply assuming people view sex and relationships the same way you do is a pretty much a rookie mistake. You can't assume anything when it comes to dating ESPECIALLY online dating! Both the man and the woman have to understand things about each other and both should be willing to be courteous to their significant others quirks or needs. That basically makes this list moot. Absolutely, the list exists because of lack of understanding, lack of communication, the lack of value we place on each other. This is also about the erosion of the ability to “think” Thinking is a lost art, humans have gotten lazy, lack of thinking ability and lack of communication skills or even the willingness to communicate and understand the object of your desire. So we keep going back to the same poisoning mindsets and assumptions maybe because it simply works for you, or maybe some just don’t care. Yes this list should not exist but it is or was created to highlight the divide. Kinda like todays politics easier to demonize those who are not like you or think like you whether than to try and understand why people get to thinking the way they do. I don't really want to be confronted with the reality that half of the world's population lack emotional intelligence and maturity. It's kind of depressing. Yes B Me too Ok rambling… I need coffee Link to post Share on other sites
Toodaloo Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Whoever wrote that is pretty bitter. Sounds like a tirade of why won't you date me you disrespectful *insert what ever swear word you like*. I sure as heck would not want to meet who ever wrote that regardless of whether they have some valuable points or not. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Larryville Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 No Too, this was individual comments from a bunch of men when asked what did "he" think was something a woman should know about "him" individual responses to same question. Not written by (1) one dude. Link to post Share on other sites
Toodaloo Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 No Too, this was individual comments from a bunch of men when asked what did "he" think was something a woman should know about "him" individual responses to same question. Not written by (1) one dude. In that case its quite sad that so many are clearly very bitter people... Shame. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Larryville Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yes kinda like Buddhist's comment earlier. These list should not exists but the very reason why this site gets millions of views, thousands of threads, so many new threads every single day. Why OLD sites are so successful making billions of dollars recycling humans because of relationship failures. Today's sad state of humanity. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Toodaloo Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yes kinda like Buddhist's comment earlier. These list should not exists but the very reason why this site gets millions of views, thousands of threads, so many new threads every single day. Why OLD sites are so successful making billions of dollars recycling humans because of relationship failures. Today's sad state of humanity. Terrible really isn't it... All very sad and a bit disheartening. Link to post Share on other sites
jen1447 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 These lists always strike me as really 2 dimensional bc they take the context out of it, and context is everything in relationships. You can't just say "women need to understand men better" or w/e bc plenty of women understand men perfectly fine, it's just that guy in particular who feels like his woman doesn't. So it's just not a cookie-cutter "all must" moment no matter how you slice it. Without the particulars of his specific situation it's meaningless in the broad sense and applies to no one, at least no more than your typical platitudes like "put the best construction on everything" and so on. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Buddhist Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Absolutely, the list exists because of lack of understanding, lack of communication, the lack of value we place on each other. This is also about the erosion of the ability to “think” Thinking is a lost art, humans have gotten lazy, lack of thinking ability and lack of communication skills or even the willingness to communicate and understand the object of your desire. So we keep going back to the same poisoning mindsets and assumptions maybe because it simply works for you, or maybe some just don’t care. Yes this list should not exist but it is or was created to highlight the divide. Kinda like todays politics easier to demonize those who are not like you or think like you whether than to try and understand why people get to thinking the way they do. And thats the point I wanted to make. Lists like this are just the lazy way out....well men do this or men do that as if 'men' are a hive mind with no independent thought of their own. I abhor people saying...women do this or that too. Why? Because I'm a woman and I don't do most of the things that 'women' supposedly do. I don't play with my hair if I'm interested in a guy or any of that crap. I like to think that because I am an individual that the men out there are likewise individuals rather than ken dolls with a standard programming. If guys here want to argue with me and insist they really are just animated automatons with standard programming I'd find that kind of sad. Where's the pride in that? Where's the will to individuate, to grow and become all that they are, as individuals? I'm aware there are some guys out there who strive to be that stereotype because they find it interesting on some level. Those are guys I would never be interested in though. It shows a limited mindset, a willingness to conform, and implies (at least to me) a fear of standing on their own and being ostracised for it. As someone who does stand on her own and is frequently ostracised, I kind of see the ability to do that as strength of character and I appreciate it in another too. I'm not one to ever read womens magazines or buy into a lot of the social mindsets out there, I naturally gravitate towards others who have a similar way of thinking. I don't value conformity and so that's why lists that seek to bundle everyone into a neat little pigeon hole rattle my chain. Edited June 22, 2016 by Buddhist 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DrReplyInRhymes Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Couldn't the article be taken at face value instead of a proclamation of fact? One person out of 7 billion expressing their thoughts on a blog, thoughtful and intact. Could it be argued of it's credibility, elementary, and pigeon-holed mindset? Absolutely! But so could every other issue you ever read or blogger you met! Link to post Share on other sites
Liam1 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Meh, lack of ability. That John Legend song, all of me. I couldn't have thought of that. I told my wife that is how a lot of men feel about their women, we just didn't have the ability to express it as well as he did in that song. Lol. We just don't think that deeply. Sure some men can. He did. I agree with his song and feel that way about my wife. No chance I could have written those lyrics haha. I don't lack the desire, but I do lack the ability. Maybe that's my lack of emotional intelligence coming through No it's not a lack of emotional intelligence. It is more likely a lack of Estrogen and a high level of Testosterone. And, that's a good thing. Vive la difference. Link to post Share on other sites
Liam1 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Dude, stereotypes exist for a reason. Women think differently then men. Men think differently then women. It's not that it CAN'T happen. But it more often then not does. Stereotype's exist for a reason. Why are people so butt hurt by this? Yes they exist because they happen too often for the experts to deny the pattern. Stereotypes are simply stereotypes. One dimensional or not. Why do people get their pantaloons in a twist about that? Link to post Share on other sites
Ijustdon'tgetit Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) Dude, stereotypes exist for a reason. Women think differently then men. Men think differently then women. It's not that it CAN'T happen. But it more often then not does. Like when I say black people don't like cats. I'm not saying there is no way a black person could be a cat person. Just generally speaking most dont like cats. There isn't anything wrong with pointing it out. If it's true of 90 out off 100 people, you can make that stereotype. They aren't just thought up out of nowhere. I mean if it was 50/50 black people I know who like cats and dont like them, I wouldn't make the statement. But it's more like 90/10. Bugs me when people act like stereotypes are just made up out of the blue. No, they are based on factual numbers and such. Now go poll all your black friends and see if they like cats. Bet more then on black person will respond "black people don't like cats" lol. Stereotype's exist for a reason. Why are people so butt hurt by this? I'm black and I like cats. This is why I dislike sterotypes. My mom hates cats, that's for sure (as well as most other animals) but my dad liked cats, my cousins like cats, and my friends like cats. I could go on and on. Everyone has different upbringings and preferences.. Edited July 1, 2016 by Ijustdon'tgetit Link to post Share on other sites
Cablebandit Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Many people seem to not know much about themselves let alone the opposite sex. Introspection is an act that is practiced too little IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
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