East Asian Men: Why are we unattractive? **Updated**

[offwithhishead]

Much of this thread is pure excuse making. YES it's true Asian guys are viewed as less attractive than white guys. That's life. Same can be said for short guys, fat guys, or bald guys. You work with what you've got and focus on your strengths. I'm half Asian and I met a girl on OK Cupid that stated she was only interested in white guys. I messaged her "I'm half Asian but a blonde friend of mine says she's more Asian that I am. Does that count?" She loved that opening line and we ended dating for 3 years. When my Chinese dad married my white mom in 1960's Wisconsin, her mother tried to get him arrested because interracial marriage was still illegal in their county. Do you think he ever made weak-a$$ excuses about how white girls didn't find him attractive? I've dated black, Asian, Middle Eastern, but about 80% of the girls I date are white. I don't even think about it anymore. I sell my strengths - I'm witty, a musician, well educated, and confident around women...

 

Like I said, a half-white/half-asian guy is pretty much white. He doesn't have to deal with all of the deficiencies Asian guys have to deal with. So it doesn't count.

[CryForNoOne]

By east Asian do you mean Indian sub continent or far east Asia?

 

"South Asian" is the proper term for Asians from the Indian subcontinent. "East Asian" would obviously refer to Chinese, Korean, Japanese etc.. The fact that very few people know the answer to this is very telling. The OP does have a point - I just don't like his attitude about how to deal with it...

[CryForNoOne]

Like I said, a half-white/half-asian guy is pretty much white. He doesn't have to deal with all of the deficiencies Asian guys have to deal with. So it doesn't count.

 

What deficiencies do Asian guys have that I don't have to deal with? And what about my dad who was 100% Chinese and rode into town like a bada$$ and eloped with a pretty blue-eyed Irish-German girl in 1960's Wisconsin!!!

[CryForNoOne]

Although I wholeheartedly disagree with the OP's attitude, it is a significant issue that unless you are an Asian American male, people tend to be completely oblivious to. I replied to another thread on LS expressing bewilderment as to why I'm very successful at meeting women in bars but Tinder has been largely a waste of my time. It didn't dawn upon me until now that the anti-Asian bias probably manifests itself in a very exaggerated way on Tinder. If a woman has hundreds of matches, it's much easier to gloss over an attractive Asian guy if she gets to pick from many many stereotypical good looking white guys. The one girl I met on Tinder was blond blue-eyed and told me I was "hot". We hooked up with rather quickly, then I later learned her ex-husband was half-Korean half-white, so obviously she has "a thing" for mixed guys. Other than her, I've swiped for weeks and weeks and it has yielded nothing. I went out Thursday and Monday and got hit on by a girl and got numbers from 2 others. All 3 are attractive and white. Much better results than weeks and weeks of Tinder and virtually no effort in comparison...

[CryForNoOne]

One other anecdote to share. When I lived in SF, I dated a Japanese girl who had a close circle of about a dozen Japanese girlfriends. The girls were chic and attractive and reminded me of the Asian equivalent of sorority girls. EVERY SINGLE ONE DATED A WHITE GUY. It kinda freaked me out when I realized it. Not only that, most of those guys were serious dorks. They had zero game and couldn't get a date with a white girl if their life depended on it. They all claimed they preferred Asian girls but I didn't believe it. At best, it was a preference that subconsciously evolved because they didn't have a choice. I myself actually got self-conscious about it because I didn't want people to think I was dating her because I had Asian fetish and couldn't get a date with a white girl. I also remember wondering - "If all these Japanese girls are dating white guys, who are the Japanese guys dating?" The answer was nobody...

[JC1790]

You seem like a smart guy JC but I think we speak diff languages and we're just talking around each other for the most part, so prob not much point continuing.

 

btw what does "extirpated" mean?

 

Well, I actually believe that we may press this point further, but if you wish to stop, then so be it.

 

"Extirpated" means "rooted up" or "eradicated".

[William]

Just for the record, I think you're a troll, and I know I'll get banned for that. How many is that now?

 

Yes, and putting out there like that, no mercy. Anyone else want to call the OP a troll? The suspended member list has grown short of late. Happy to accommodate anyone who feels deprived.

 

On the other hand, reporting suspected posts to moderation and avoiding them, or responding to the topic within our guidelines, is encouraged. My apologies for not catching this sooner. An eagle-eyed member helped us out. Please continue to discuss the topic. Thanks!

[CryForNoOne]

I have never known a Middle Eastern or Black woman to have ever dated an Asian guy tbh. Even a half Asian guy.

 

I was going to say maybe you live in the sticks but then I saw you also live in LA like me. How is that even possible??? I think I see interracial couples like that every day. I counted and remember dating 5 different black women. I also dated a half-Afghani girl for 3 years...

[offwithhishead]

Through my dating experiences, it would be easy for me to come to the conclusion that Asian men are victims of Western Media largely driven by white men. However, I feel that perhaps like the neanderthals, Asian men may be at fault for having failed to evolve with the times.

 

The main issue is culture. Even amongst Asian-Americans who grew up in the west, our upbringing is still largely different from that of white folks. In East Asian society, it is considered rude to speak out in any form. And this includes dating. It is considered rude to approach a girl you do not know. It is even considered rude to approach a girl who you DO know but not well enough. Often, an Asian man and woman will only end up dating after a period of friendship.

 

This is indirect contrast to western culture in which if a man and woman are friends for too long, he becomes "friendzoned". The idea is that if a man wants to pursue a woman, he has to move fast and if rejected, move on and find a new woman to target.

 

Asian culture is also an "honor culture." Perhaps some of you white folks who grew up in the southern united states may have some understanding of that although it is less relevant these days. Face is very important to an Asian guy. As a result, he will work very hard at maintaining an image of success such as being well educated and being financially successful. But he won't pursue things that have a high risk of failure such as approaching women he is attracted to or making his voice heard in his career at the risk of others not liking him or rejection.

 

What has occurred amongst Asians living in the west is that the Asian women have evolved with the western culture whereas Asian men have not. Asian women allowed themselves to be highly sexualized by the western media. All women want to feel attractive after all. As a result, Asian women allow themselves to be pursued by men of all races who do so in almost a border-line insulting fashion. For example, an Asian man who approaches an Asian girl will do so in a polite, meek fashion as to not offend her. But a white man or a black man will approach an Asian girl like she is a target and go in with the mentality that "Asian girls belong to white men."

 

An Asian girl who is traditional-minded will blow off these types of aggressive approaches and be insulted by it. But a westernized Asian girl will not. And therein lies the true differences.

 

Although there are Asian men who are aggressive and assertive, largely we are not. Our upbringing and the way our brains have been wired since childbirth still lead us to be risk-averse. As a result, both ASian girls and white girls may find Asian guys are just "too slow" to make advances and give up on them. It is especially prevalent in today's fast gratification society.

 

Being risk-averse isn't the only issue with Asian men. We also have misplaced priorities. In Asian culture, there is high pressure to succeed. This leads Asian men to spend too much of their time doing well in school and putting career above all else. They ignore the "fun and social things" which largely makes them pretty boring.

 

Asian girls largely do not have the same pressures to succeed as Asian guys. As a result, they are more likely to spend their youth on more recreational activities which makes their personalities better rounded. They may end up finding Asian men too boring for their liking.

 

Lastly, Asian guys may come off as too nice. Asian guys are taught that spending money on a girl is the gentlemen thing to do. Asian guys buy gifts and will always pay for meals. Asian guys are also taught to be family-oriented and be concerned over a girl's well-being. A white girl may find this type of behavior very odd because she may wonder why he is being so nice to her and what his ulterior motive is. She may also may consider him too needy when he often calls her and asks about her day. She doesn't understand that the Asian guy is just doing what he thinks women want. It's not so much as that he has a motive but it's the way he thinks he is expected to perform.

 

In western culture, aloofness and acting like one does not care plays a large part in the attractiveness of a man. In ASian culture, the direct opposite is true. An attractive Asian man is one who is attentive and caring and gentlemanly. In western culture, this same behavior comes as needy and repulsive and not masculine.

 

All of these advantages combined with the fact that Asian men are largely shorter and less athletic physically combine for a disaster.

 

Like the neanderthals who failed to evolve, we may be at risk of extinction in North America if we do not change our ways.

 

We cannot put the blame entirely on the betrayal of Asian girls. They have adapted whereas we have not. It's not so much that Asian girls hate Asian guys and prefer white guys. These type of girls exist but they are in the super minority. I believe Asian girls are open to dating all kinds of guys and that it largely depends on the guy himself.

 

I actually have proof of this. I went to a party and was attracted to this Asian girl who was there. A number of guys including myself tried to approach her and dance with her throughout the night but it was ME she ended up spending most of the time with. The other guys who approached were white but she found them creepy and even somewhat rude. She liked the way I approached her. I talked to her and was polite and I bought her a drink. The white guys who approached her acted as if they were entitled to this small petite delicate Asian girl.

 

She and I did not end up dating because later I found out that she has a boyfriend who is a white guy. I do not know her boyfriend but judging from the photos I saw on facebook, he seems like a decent guy and the two seem to have a genuine relationship.

 

Usually, when I encounter an Asian girl with a white guy, I immediately jump to the conclusion that she hates Asian guys and is a self-hater. However, this girl I encountered shows not all Asian girls who date white guys hate Asian guys.

 

I think we Asian men, despite being emasculated by western media, need to take some responsibility as well.

 

There isn't much we can do about our natural physical disadvantages but I think we have things to improve on in terms of our overall behavior and thinking.

[Revolver]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sessue_Hayakawa

 

 

The 1920's? My point exactly lol

 

Also for every modern example you can give, I can give you 15 white or black male sex symbol examples. To act like its the same or equal is being disingenuous.

[Cotton Rain]

Black woman here, lives in major metropolitan city.

 

Why East Asian men are unattractive? I got the answer.

 

You're not. East Asian men are just as hot as any other race of men.

 

Why don't East Asian men get non-Asian girls? They don't ask any out.

 

There I said it. End Thread.

 

If someone finds East Asian men unattractive, it's because they don't know/haven't interacted with many (caveat: those that are young/youthful, fit, and tall)

 

There's NOTHING inherently unattractive about them. So just stop. Neither are they less attractive.

 

Korean dramas will change your perspective on East Asian men. However, East Asian men do have a culture that is more typical of effeminate men than Americans like. I mean in terms of their obsession with their hair, their clothes, their facial features, their emotions, their lack of body hair and weight... (it's not masculine for Americans)

 

By the way, i know several East Asian men MARRIED to black and white women. One of my friends is a black corporate attorney and her husband is a (rather unattractive I'm sorry) Asian corporate attorney. They have an Asian looking biracial daughter; my friend is an African; she's super dark but the Asian genes were strong. She has no problems with his penis either, she says.

 

There is another blonde white woman and her hubby (both attorneys).. and another blonde woman and her rather unattractive Asian hubby... the last one is really dating out of his league.

 

I NEVER see good-looking Asian men dating outside of their race.

[normal person]

Black woman here, lives in major metropolitan city.

 

Why East Asian men are unattractive? I got the answer.

 

You're not. East Asian men are just as hot as any other race of men.

 

Why don't East Asian men get non-Asian girls? They don't ask any out.

 

There I said it. End Thread.

 

If someone finds East Asian men unattractive, it's because they don't know/haven't interacted with many (caveat: those that are young/youthful, fit, and tall)

 

There's NOTHING inherently unattractive about them. So just stop. Neither are they less attractive.

 

There's something to be said for this. Confidence is one of the most attractive masculine qualities in Western culture (and elsewhere, maybe?). But if people subscribe to the stereotypes about them, they become dejected. I saw a short film (something to do with an Asian guy who taught other Asian guys how to pick up girls) and as soon as the guys were able to shed the ideas about them that society had put in their minds, they started to become confident, and therefore successful. As I mentioned in an earlier post, to me Asian people seem very docile and compliant. It works well for women in attracting men, but it's a bad look for a man in the west.

 

I know, the mantra in Eastern cultures is "the duck who quacks gets the axe," or something, but in Western cultures it's often "the squeaky wheel gets the grease." I think it'd be cool to see Asian guys giving the middle finger to societal stereotypes and expectations and going about their business with all the confidence in the world. Just refusing to be affected by it would make them exponentially more appealing to a lot of women, I think.

[deep_night]

i have some caucasian friends who go crazy about them and actually prefer them over other nationalities. and tbh, ive been very attracted to a couple east asian guys myself. you never know who you're going to be attracted to!

[bummer]

Just returned from Toronto after a few years removed from Canada. I can feel for OP all over again. Where I live, I am exotic and unique. In Toronto, Asian men are dime-a-dozen and it really takes an extra step to stand apart.

 

There isn't much we can do about our natural physical disadvantages but I think we have things to improve on in terms of our overall behavior and thinking.[/Quote]

 

Amen. But seriously, if you work out, you can improve your "physical disadvantages."

[Els]

There's something to be said for this. Confidence is one of the most attractive masculine qualities in Western culture (and elsewhere, maybe?). But if people subscribe to the stereotypes about them, they become dejected. I saw a short film (something to do with an Asian guy who taught other Asian guys how to pick up girls) and as soon as the guys were able to shed the ideas about them that society had put in their minds, they started to become confident, and therefore successful. As I mentioned in an earlier post, to me Asian people seem very docile and compliant. It works well for women in attracting men, but it's a bad look for a man in the west.

 

"Confidence" means different things to different people. To me, a confident and masculine man is one who sticks to his principles and doesn't apologize for having them, who doesn't exude negativity or complain excessively, who dares to remain true to himself in spite of societal judgement. My perception of confidence has very little to do with the stereotypical 'confidence' that appears to be dictated by Western society, which typically involves talking smoothly and asking out lots of women.

 

I agree with you that most Asian men do fine, especially if they have the benefit of a Western education. My biggest gripe about Asia is probably the education system in most of the Asian countries, that is aimed at churning out passive, docile drones. Anyone who hasn't been through that, or who went through it but is self-aware enough to break free of those teachings, should be totally fine.

[AMJ]

My friend posted something about this and it made me think of you, OP. It's actually a pretty great blog.

 

Matt Damon saves China from dragons in 'The Great Wall'

 

"THREE THINGS ABOUT THIS BLOG

04.25.02

 

I'm not as angry as you think. Yes, racism angers me. But I'm not here sitting in front of the computer, hating "whitey" and plotting revolution. This is just a subject that has always interested me — pointing out racism and noting any and all appearances of Asians in mass media and popular culture (the good and the bad). It's something I care about. So I've created a little space on the web for it all... I suppose the angry part sometimes scares people, but rest assured, I'm a pretty civil, reasonable guy. Just don't cross me.

 

Everything is racist, but not everything is racist. Yes, I've been calling anything and everything racist. I'm only joking... some of the time. I think some people tend to take issue with my definition of 'racist.' Yeah yeah, I know. But for me, racism and ignorance all run together in the same club —it happens all the time, and I'll be happy to point it out for you. It sometimes just helps to deal with it using a little humor."

[offwithhishead]

 

I know, the mantra in Eastern cultures is "the duck who quacks gets the axe," or something, but in Western cultures it's often "the squeaky wheel gets the grease." I think it'd be cool to see Asian guys giving the middle finger to societal stereotypes and expectations and going about their business with all the confidence in the world. Just refusing to be affected by it would make them exponentially more appealing to a lot of women, I think.

 

I'm a non-conformist Asian guy. I was born in Canada and I grew up in an all-white suburb and only had white friends growing up. Being Asian never really affected me until I was in high school when my family relocated to Asia for a couple of years. After I came back to Canada, I had a bit of an identity crisis.

 

I'm not trying to say I'm a bad boy. I'm not. Nor do I try or even want to be one. I'm a non-conformist Asian because I didn't grow up in Asia. I grew up in the west and my brain is shaped by my upbringing. I just do what I want.

 

I express how I feel at work and with my friends. I listen to metal music. I get road rage sometimes when some rude driver cuts me off and I roll down the window and swear at him. If I meet a girl I'm interested in dating, I express interest and even ask her out. I have a successful career and my firm puts a lot of responsibility on my shoulders and trusts me to carry them out. My coworkers respect me and trust me generally. No matter what race they are.

 

I don't do any of the things I do to try to somehow show to white people or Asian people that I'm not the typical Asian. I'm not the typical Asian cause I'm not. I'm just being myself.

 

None of this matters. Why? Because white girls will see my Asian face and the fact that I'm short and won't even give me a chance. They paint all Asian guys with the same brush. Before I even have a chance to show my individuality, I am brushed off.

 

As for Asian girls, well, the few Asian girls who have liked me before, a large part of it was because I wasn't the typical conformist Asian. But the thing is, these type of Asian girls are rare. Most Asian girls like conformist Asian guys. And the Asian girls who don't, well, they could just date a white guy who is taller and better looking than me. Why date an Asian guy who looks Asian but is westernized in thinking when they could just get a pure white guy?

 

Or maybe I'm not understanding your post. Are you saying Asian guys should get militant like some blacks and some muslims and start ambushing cops or plotting terrorist attacks? Is that what you mean by being rebellious and masculine?

 

Because I don't think that's gonna work. Even when the day comes when all Asian guys in North America end up single and alone and watch Asian girls go out with white guys, I don't think we'll resort to violence. Not because we're afraid of we're cowards. Because we have sense of honour and justice and we're not going to resort to that.

 

 

"Confidence" means different things to different people. To me, a confident and masculine man is one who sticks to his principles and doesn't apologize for having them, who doesn't exude negativity or complain excessively, who dares to remain true to himself in spite of societal judgement. My perception of confidence has very little to do with the stereotypical 'confidence' that appears to be dictated by Western society, which typically involves talking smoothly and asking out lots of women.

 

So a man can't exude negativity or complain excessively even after repeated rejection and bad experiences?

 

Even your boyfriend whom you seem to really dig, if he went through as many bad dating experiences and rejection as some Asian guys have such as myself, I doubt he'd be acting very confident and masculine. He's either a very attractive Asian guy or he simply got lucky by meeting you. Some guys aren't so lucky. Did that ever occur to you that some Asian guys are normal and good people but a) Just didn't have the luck of meeting that right woman and b) Not physically attractive.

 

Maybe you and your boyfriend are just lucky. And maybe your social group and other Asians that you know are lucky as well. People who have things in common tend to congregrate and socialize together and so they become your world. But they aren't a true representation of reality out there.

 

I can tell you that there are a lot of lonely single Asian guys out there who are good people but can't get a girlfriend, either white or Asian.

 

But you seem to believe that they are doing "something wrong" or that there's something wrong with them.

[Els]

 

So a man can't exude negativity or complain excessively even after repeated rejection and bad experiences?

 

Even your boyfriend whom you seem to really dig, if he went through as many bad dating experiences and rejection as some Asian guys have such as myself, I doubt he'd be acting very confident and masculine. He's either a very attractive Asian guy or he simply got lucky by meeting you. Some guys aren't so lucky. Did that ever occur to you that some Asian guys are normal and good people but a) Just didn't have the luck of meeting that right woman and b) Not physically attractive.

 

Maybe you and your boyfriend are just lucky. And maybe your social group and other Asians that you know are lucky as well. People who have things in common tend to congregrate and socialize together and so they become your world. But they aren't a true representation of reality out there.

 

I can tell you that there are a lot of lonely single Asian guys out there who are good people but can't get a girlfriend, either white or Asian.

 

But you seem to believe that they are doing "something wrong" or that there's something wrong with them.

 

You missed my point again, which was that men don't necessarily have to fall within the Western definition of 'confidence' to be attractive to all women.

 

But I've already come to expect you to only extract the negativity and ignore the positive message, so it's all good.

[offwithhishead]

I would like to define what an East Asian is as it always seems to be a matter of confusion. A person of East Asian descent is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Mongolian, Taiwanese and Vietnamese descent. He is NOT Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi or even Filipino, Thai, Malaysian or Indonesian.

 

I believe East Asian men, similar to Black women, are a very specific case when it comes to dating and relationships that a lot of the advice, no matter how general, just don't apply to us.

 

It's not that there are no attractive East Asian men. It's just that there are so FEW. As an East Asian Male who grew up in the west, I can't tell you how many times I've heard women of all races including Asian women say they just can't date a Chinese guy or an Asian guy.

 

A Chinese guy that would be considered attractive in China is at very best average in the US. A hot Chinese guy in the US would be in the top 1%. I've heard this white girl once comment that she has seen a lot of cute Asian guys but that they'd pretty much have to be perfect to be considered hot. As in, there's always something physically wrong with them.

 

I feel that if I'm asking for advice, I have to say, "hey by the way, I'm an Asian guy who is 5'5." Then everything becomes clearer.

 

Another thing about advice on here is that it assumes the girl in question already has interacted with you in some way and already knows you. That's just the thing. As an Asian guy, I feel invisible to non-Asian women. Asian women may notice me but they aren't attracted to me because there are better options such as white men out there. But for non-Asian women, I feel like I don't exist in their eyes and when I do take initiative, I find they have already labelled me as "unattractive Asian dude" and don't even give me a chance.

 

It's one thing to get rejected after a girl takes some time to get to know you but it's totally another when you're automatically rejected.

 

A lot of white guys I've talked to, perhaps feeling a bit guilty that they're getting all the attractive Asian women, have said, "ask more Asian girls out."

 

Here's the thing about that advice. Yeah I guess there's a higher chance an Asian woman will find me attractive. But the thing with Asian women is that she has lots of alternatives. Every male race wants to date Asian women. So even if she prefers Asian guys, if she can't get with an Attractive Asian male, she'll just go out with an average white guy.

 

An average white guy is more desirable in her eyes than an average Asian guy. The Asian guy pretty much has to have the total package in order to get her interest.

 

That's pretty much been my experience. For some strange reason, Asian women are hardwired to be attracted to White men. And vice versa.

 

And non-Asian women are hardwired to find Asian guys unattractive. And the common copout from non-Asian women for their disinterest to Asian guys is, "Asian guys only like Asian girls." Totally NOT true. I can't tell you how many of my Asian guy friends and colleagues have expressed interest in white girls. Most of them just gave up trying after repeated rejection and even downright humiliation.

 

The kind of things Asian guys hear, it's tough NOT to be affected by it. Here are a few examples in my own life and I'm sure other Asian guys have heard similar or far worse:

 

"You like white girls? Good luck with that. I heard Asian guys have the hardest time dating." -some white girl I knew in high school

 

"In high school, I would never date an Asian guy." - ex girlfriend who is Asian

 

"Even if I started dating again, it'd never be with an Asian guy." - a girl I know who is Asian and just getting out of a relationship with her Asian ex

 

"Asian guys just don't get it." - random Asian girl

 

"Why do you have to only date Asian girls? Try dating white girls" - Asian girl

 

"You're a really good guy. I like you. But I don't date Asian guys." - Asian girl

 

"Sorry, I can't be with you. I just can't be with an Asian guy because of my childhood past. An Asian guy I knew in school harassed me sexually and I'm traumatized." - Asian girl

 

"I don't know. An Asian guy would pretty much have to be perfect in every way in order to be hot in my eyes." - white girl random

 

A lot of white people, especially white men, will totally disregard my rant. Why? Well it's just preference apparently. But if it was really down to preference, why are there so few Asian guys dating non-Asian girls? Why is the opposite, white guys with Asian girls so common?

 

If you google this kind of thing, you'll see very RACIST articles out there written by white men who pretty much know the ball is in their court and alot of what they write about Asian girls is downright humiliating and insulting.

 

But Asian girls seem to just love it. After all, girls want to feel attractive and wanted. Even if the motivations are downright insulting to her background and heritage.

 

A lot of the ASian couples you see out on the streets aren't actually Asian-Americans or Asian-Canadians. They didn't grow up here. A lot of them came here for study and met their spouse/partner back in their native countries.

 

I feel Asian guys are the real victims of multiculturalism. Asian girls and white guys are the winners. I find it really comical that so many Trump supporters hate immigrants and multiculturalism when it's Asian guys who should be hating it.

 

We've gotten the totally short end of the stick. We grew up in this country and have done well for the most part...except dating. We are the most successful minority in the US/Canada and are regarded as a model minority. In many ways, we are a success but total failures/losers in dating.

 

Yet no one seems to care. You have people all concerned about hurting the feelings of black men and muslim men but you never hear anything about how Asian men must feel.

 

I know that 90% of you reading this post will just disregard what I've written and judge it as coming from someone who is a desperate and unattractive loser. It's funny how an angry Black men or a Muslim men will be taken seriously when he feels he's been unjustly treated but an Asian guy who complains about encountering racism in the dating world will just be ignored and written off so easily.

[offwithhishead]

But I've already come to expect you to only extract the negativity and ignore the positive message, so it's all good.

 

What positive message? That not being smooth and confident and being able to pickup girls also works? If that's the case, why do so many Asian girls fall prey to white guys picking them up?

 

I met this white guy/asian girl couple once. The white guy explains how he picked her up. He went up to her and bowed to her and said Hi to her in Chinese. How LAME is that? If an Asian guy did that, he'd be kicked to the curb but it works for a white guy. The asian girl is so charmed by that.

[gorf]

You're talking statistics and I don't know who these thousands of people you talked to came from. But I'll save you some trouble. Whatever happened to just being confident, and attracting women that way? Ive seen lots of average looking guys from all races with gorgeous women of all different races, and its in the way they carry themselves. Maybe I'm mis-reading what you wrote, there is a lot to read

[offwithhishead]

You're talking statistics and I don't know who these thousands of people you talked to came from. But I'll save you some trouble. Whatever happened to just being confident, and attracting women that way? Ive seen lots of average looking guys from all races with gorgeous women of all different races, and its in the way they carry themselves. Maybe I'm mis-reading what you wrote, there is a lot to read

 

You've seen an East Asian guy who is confident and attract lots of women from all different races? Or was it just Asian girls? Also, did he grew up in the west or he came recently from Asia?

[gorf]

You've seen an East Asian guy who is confident and attract lots of women from all different races? Or was it just Asian girls? Also, did he grew up in the west or he came recently from Asia?

 

Look this is exactly what I'm talking about. Forget race, forget what you look in a mirror. March out your front door and approach any woman you want cause you are a unique confident guy. If you aren't confident in your own skin, then all you are going to hear are the crazy generalizations that really have no weight. I dont know what you look like, but I will say its not about race or dashing supermodel looks. Average or below average, confidence in your own skin trumps looks and wins every day. Who cares about what race the girls are or what side of some country a guy grew up. Forget all that, it will only hold you back

[gorf]

You've seen an East Asian guy who is confident and attract lots of women from all different races? Or was it just Asian girls? Also, did he grew up in the west or he came recently from Asia?

 

Are you after specifically Asian women? Is that what you really are after?

[Imported]

OP, it's not that you're Asian, it's just that you're short. Or that you're Asian.

 

If somehow you got a race change, you'd still have the same problem. So you'll blame it on being short. If somehow you got a height extension, same thing.

 

I will admit, you do have it rough, but being a bitch about it doesn't do ****.