My wife wants my ex to "die alone" [update: Sleeping with ex fiancé]

[Cephalopod]

You fell for a real charmer.

 

I hope your ex-wife finds herself a better man.

[ShatteredLady]

I've heard of people dumping their partner at the wedding but I've never actually 'met' someone whose done it. I've always thought it was an awful thing to do.

 

Can I ask why you didn't cancel a month before? A week before? The DAY before everyone arrived & she was in her dream wedding dress?

 

Have you always been incredibly conflict avoidant? I ask because it's a HUGE character flaw which needs to be dealt with before you create a life of misery for yourself & everyone who comes & goes from your life.

 

Your wife says terrible things about the MOTHER of your CHILDREN! This will damage them. It's WRONG but you haven't said or done anything about it!

You let your mistress (at the time) come & have fun witnessing one of the very worst days of your Elizabeth's life! Did you say anything?

 

Infidelity usually has its roots in conflict avoidance as does divorce sometimes. People are too cowardly to have grown-up conversations, preferring to silently build resentments to destroy the relationship. The most common excuse is 'protecting others feelings!' Haha!! "I'd rather be quietly 'nice' & then shatter your faith in love, devastate my family etc in one big life changing nightmare!"

[Popsicle]

You are slying holding a flame for two women at the same time and at least one of them is pissed about it.

[BlueIris]

.... I have said before, my ex was the right woman to mother my children, not to marry. ...

 

That's so interesting that you said that. I had an uncle who said that about his wife. He was born in about 1920 so those were different times and he married the women he "bred" with (that's how he said it). He kept a mistress across the street in a second house for decades, well, until he died. Anyway, I just thought I'd point that out. I'd never heard anyone but him say anything like that. And that thinking definitely had a deep effect on everyone in the family. I'm willing to bet that is a a crucial part of your wife's discontent and jealousy.

[MissCongeniality]

Uh..no. Not 'women'. Normal women are not as nasty and vindictive as your wife. Please do not fool yourself into thinking that her attitude is normal. It's not. Not by a long shot. It's disgusting actually.

 

Huge red flag.

I'm not even that well adjusted and even I know it's a huge red flag and this is coming from a woman that has made every mistake in the book. I suggest saying to her flat out "Your not the better woman and if you keep this up we're done understand?"

 

Honestly I've always tried one upping the past girlfriends at least I use to but now that I'm older I realize I was just insecure.

[Lois_Griffin]

So the REAL dynamic here is that your wife was the OW and she 'got her man.'

 

I don't think you're even aware of how completely selfish and self-absorbed your statement sounds about your ex being the right one to have kids with but the wrong one to marry. You just seem to think you can pop kids out wherever you want and you have absolutely NO sense of responsibility to provide them with a two parent family. What do you think kids are - pets? You can just have them arbitrarily with someone you think is a good mom and then go on your merry way because she's taking care of business?

 

Of course your OW/wife is jealous of your ex. She's always going to be jealous of her. While she may be under the mistaken impression that she's the 'better woman' because she won herself a cheater, I think she knows deep down that she's clearly NOT the better woman. More so, it sticks in her craw like mad every time you've made the comment about your ex being the best mother you could have for your kids. That's something she'll never be able to best your ex at, because she doesn't have kids with you. So that big, jealous hole will always be right there inside her, festering.

 

Your first red flag was that she was willing to be a big part of your deceit in cheating on your fiancee. The second red flag were her constant demands that you dump your ex for her. Your third red flag was that she ghoulishly wanted to be there for the 'show' when you told your ex on your wedding day that you couldn't marry her. The complete level of utter disrespect continually forced down your ex's throat - even to this DAY - is frightening.

 

I have to say it - this is the door you picked and this is the prize you chose. She's not going to change how she feels regardless of how many therapists you throw her at. Ain't happening.

 

She was able to control every single aspect of what happened in the past - except THIS one. She can't change or upstage your ex's excellent parenting no matter how hard she tries and no matter how much vitriol she spews. That's her cross to bear, not your ex's and not your kid's. But don't you think it's high time you showed your ex some damned respect for a complete change and actually stand up for her when your OW/wife is having one of her childish jealous meltdowns?

[l8estnews]

To OP,

 

I am sorry about the things you've been reading in this thread, but I hope you do understand how horrible the situation is..... for your Ex. The post above nailed everything.

 

I hope your Ex finds a special someone because she sounds like she deserves it, not some bashing from a person who obviously enjoys witnessing someone's misery and downfall (aka your wife)

[whatcanitellyou]

Lets see.....your wife knowingly got involved with a guy about to be married, and then married not only a cheater but a cheater willing to dump his wife at the altar.

 

So you've already shown you're not loyal, can't be trusted, and are the type of guy to dump someone at the altar.

 

In fairness though your wife is no better.....she really did get what she deserved.

 

Both of you got cheaters who can't be trusted, which is why so many affair relationships fail.

 

That probably came across a lot nastier them I meant it, but it is what's going on.

 

Now let's get to the gist of why your wife is so jealous.

 

You: my ex is the right over to mother my kids, but my wife was the right one to marry.

 

Translation: my ex is a far better woman and much better suited to raise my kids, but my wife is much better to have sex with.

 

Your wife knows this is what you mean.

 

Objectively that may even be true since your wife has already demonstrated that she has poor character.

 

But I imagine it still hurts like you know what.

 

As for your ex, she should probably explore why she keeps choosing men of poor character who cheat.

[dichotomy]

I am going to side step the advice and insights offered on the topic of your marriage, and affairs. Lots of other posts here in this thread.

 

I only want to add that I know first hand second marriages, kids from ex's, step families and more - it's often hard, messy, and there are feelings of jealousy, insecurity and more for the new spouses and the step parents. I have been on other boards dedicated to just step and mixed family situations and there are so many issues and feelings. I hope you new wife is a good stepmom to the kids and maybe is shown some love by your kids as well. Its possible to do this - but not common that the step parent can bond enough to feel like a parent as well. I felt love for my step kids before we married - that bonding was kind of key to making it through some tough times with my wife's ex and his wife, and the kids issues over the years.

 

This was on TOP of all the issues I had with my wife outside of her past marriage.

Edited August 19, 2016 by dichotomy

[aileD]

Here's a little thing that I found on the interwebs awhile ago. and it's spot on and this is what your mistress turned wife has to live with the rest of her life. If she doesn't like it, well she has the option to leave you. But she made her bed and now must lie in it.

 

“My perspective is from that of the other woman (OW) who became the new wife. I hope this helps someone.

 

You will get to be responsible for destroying the life of another woman. You will get to be responsible for destroying the lives of all children involved. No, children are not resilient. They are sponges and take in everything around them whether they are capable of processing it or not. And when they are not able to process their world being shattered and all the conflicting messages about right and wrong, you will get to deal with all their issues and mistakes and anger as they grow up. You will have to know all the while that whatever is happening is a direct result of your selfishness. If the child fails at school, can’t control their anger, becomes promiscuous, falls into addictions, can’t maintain good relationships of their own you get to know in the back of your mind and deep in your soul that you are responsible for what molded that child. Whether you admit it or not, you WILL know. You will not be able to fix this; it will not work out, smooth over, or ever be okay. Even if you look like the Cleavers on the surface it is under there bubbling and will come out. Don’t think you are special and you will escape this result.

 

Maybe right now you are in a place where you are in deep denial about the children and you don’t give a crap about the BW [betrayed wife]. Let me appeal to your sense of selfishness then and tell you what you personally are going to suffer in the years to come…

 

You are marrying a cheater. Someone who didn’t like what they had at home so they went looking for something better. Or maybe you offered him something better? It doesn’t really matter who started it, who lied more, it doesn’t even really matter if you were tricked into a relationship not knowing he was married at first. Your consequences will be the same. You now have a spouse who gave up one family and chose you and yours. Feels great right? Think again. How long do you think it will take before you stop feeling like a prize?

 

The minute things go wrong, and face it, in all marriages there are these times, he is going to be looking at you and wondering if you were worth it. And you will feel it. Even if he doesn’t say it right out. He is going to realize that this marriage requires just as much work as the old one did and you are not nearly as perfect in real life as he thought you were and he is going to be angry for what he has sacrificed for you. Now you get to be insecure and feel like you are always fighting to be worth it to him.

 

You are going to be labeled as the bitch for the entire rest of your life. No matter what changes or personal revelations you come to, you will be the bitch that wrecked a home and stole a husband. There will be innumerable family conflicts over this. You are likely to have his kids hating your guts forever. This means that every holiday, school concert, soccer game, big family event like graduations and weddings, and grandkids (yes, it will last that far and long) will be sources of conflict instead of happy times.

 

You will probably not be invited to a lot of things that your spouse should be attending with his children. You may show up anyway, asserting your position as the new wife. But it will be a conflict. You spouse will have to over and over choose between you and his original family. He is going to resent you for this. You are going to get so tired of constantly being the center of conflict and so tired of all the hate directed at you and no one is going to sympathize with you. When you do impose yourself where the BW and her children and extended family and friends are, you will feel the scarlet letter that you wear burning in your chest no matter how high you try to hold your head. I promise you…you will. You and your stolen spouse will fight over this more than you can imagine in the years to come.

 

And guess what?! When he starts to pull away from you and works late more, or isn’t insatiable in bed with you anymore, or cuts his hair a new way you are going to be terrified. You are going to be terrified because you know exactly what he might be doing next. You are going to be suspicious probably before he actually even does anything because you already know he is untrustworthy.

Chances are he is going to cheat again too. Except this time on you. Now, you get to feel the pain of being a BW doubled by the pain of realizing exactly what you did to someone else. The guilt and shame on top of your already devastating pain from being cheated on will be unbearable. Now listen to this closely NO ONE IS GOING TO CARE!! You are going to hear and know that you should have known better and have the old adages about cheaters thrown in your face over and over. You will not be able to come somewhere like these boards for support because they are going to crucify you! You will be all alone with your pain and your heartache with no one to blame but yourself.

 

Do not think you are special. DO NOT THINK IT WON’T HAPPEN TO YOU!!!!!!!!!! The stats are overwhelmingly high. No one gets married thinking that their spouse will cheat. No one. I promise that you are not different or better somehow.

 

Occasionally an affair partner will grow a conscience and want to be a good person and here is what happens…

 

Now, let’s say that you make changes in your heart and your life. Let say you find God or in whatever way it comes to you, you realize that you have done something horrendous. Okay, now you actually do care about those kids and that BW. Well too bad. You can’t fix it. Yes, God will forgive you if you repent. Not many others will. And you will have one heck of a time trying to forgive yourself. You will feel sick and ashamed all the time. You will cry many bitter tears.

 

You will not be able to look at your spouse and feel the same way you once did. All of your memories of when you first met, your first kiss, the early days of your relationship will be tainted. All of those memories that are supposed to be sweet will be sour. You will not be able to enjoy them because you know that whole time it was wrong, wrong, wrong! What are you left with? Not much.

You are going to try to offer apologies, you are going to try to figure out what you can possibly do to make amends and there are going to be no easy answers. You will be told by many that you can’t repent and stay married. You will be told by just as many that if God has forgiven you that another divorce would be just another sin. You will make yourself crazy over this because you want to do the right thing for once in your life and you have put yourself in a situation where it is impossible to know what that is.

 

Also, if you are one of the few who have this attack of conscience at some point down the road, you are still going to be dealing with all the same stuff above that the unremorseful affair partner is dealing with except it’s probably going to hurt you even more because you now genuinely care. Too bad no one will think you are sincere or trust your words. Why should they, remember what you did?? Of course you do, now go cry some more as if it will help."

[BettyDraper]

So the REAL dynamic here is that your wife was the OW and she 'got her man.'

 

I don't think you're even aware of how completely selfish and self-absorbed your statement sounds about your ex being the right one to have kids with but the wrong one to marry. You just seem to think you can pop kids out wherever you want and you have absolutely NO sense of responsibility to provide them with a two parent family. What do you think kids are - pets? You can just have them arbitrarily with someone you think is a good mom and then go on your merry way because she's taking care of business?

 

Of course your OW/wife is jealous of your ex. She's always going to be jealous of her. While she may be under the mistaken impression that she's the 'better woman' because she won herself a cheater, I think she knows deep down that she's clearly NOT the better woman. More so, it sticks in her craw like mad every time you've made the comment about your ex being the best mother you could have for your kids. That's something she'll never be able to best your ex at, because she doesn't have kids with you. So that big, jealous hole will always be right there inside her, festering.

 

Your first red flag was that she was willing to be a big part of your deceit in cheating on your fiancee. The second red flag were her constant demands that you dump your ex for her. Your third red flag was that she ghoulishly wanted to be there for the 'show' when you told your ex on your wedding day that you couldn't marry her. The complete level of utter disrespect continually forced down your ex's throat - even to this DAY - is frightening.

 

I have to say it - this is the door you picked and this is the prize you chose. She's not going to change how she feels regardless of how many therapists you throw her at. Ain't happening.

 

She was able to control every single aspect of what happened in the past - except THIS one. She can't change or upstage your ex's excellent parenting no matter how hard she tries and no matter how much vitriol she spews. That's her cross to bear, not your ex's and not your kid's. But don't you think it's high time you showed your ex some damned respect for a complete change and actually stand up for her when your OW/wife is having one of her childish jealous meltdowns?

 

This. OP, your wife is not a good person. However, your behavior towards your ex shows that you and your wife deserve each other. This is what you signed up for when you left your ex on your wedding day to take up with the OW.

 

Your wife is projecting her insecurities about being a former OW on to your ex wife. This is because she knows that your ex is a better woman than she will ever be and she will always be the mother of your children.

 

Time to stand up for your ex. She sounds like a mature and wonderful lady.

[sandylee1]

Your wife isn't a good woman.

 

What person with a grain of compassion would go to the wedding venue like she did, to see your Ex getting hurt? There's more to a woman than outward beauty you know. I'm guessing you see that now.

 

Having children with her would have been a bad move. I really would hate for a child of mine to have that evil streak via her DNA.

 

You need to step up and tell her it's enough and you don't want to hear another nasty or spiteful comment from her about your Ex. Say it and mean it. Have consequences if she does it again.

 

She shouldn't get to talk about your children's mother who has done nothing to her like that.

 

This kind of jealousy leads to much more devious acts.

[sandylee1]

I wanted to comment on some specific things about you made about your wife.

 

**Recently my ex broke up with her boyfriend because he was cheating on her. My wife was genuinely happy about it**

 

This to a woman who has done nothing to her.

 

**She actually said "maybe she should just give up on dating and accept that she will die alone, she clearly isn't dating/marriage material".**

 

Mean, nasty and downright horrible to a woman who she wronged.

 

**My kids started living with me more temporarily and my wife wanted to take that to court to try and get full custody. I never would.**

 

Wow!! It's not enough she got you, so she wanted to take the kids away from her too.

 

**My wife would genuinely (or at least she thinks that) be happy if my ex never finds another partner.**

 

Why? She got you and doesn't want your Ex to find love again. Your wife wants happiness, at the expense of your Ex's unhappiness.

 

 

**In my wife's mind, that makes her win? Because she got the man and the ex didn't and therefore she is better?**

 

What makes her win? She got you. Fine. So she never wants your Ex to be with another man?

IDK... Women

 

It's not women, it's your wife specifically.

 

**doesn't usually try and keep them from my ex.**

 

She should NEVER try and keep them from their mother.

 

**I have told my wife that she should go talk to someone and she has, but still remarks still come out now and then.**

 

The jealousy is deep rooted and she'll never get over it. I'm not sure any amount of therapy will fix her. It's who she is.

 

**Is this a normal thing to just ignore or a bigger red flag?**

 

No. It's not normal.

 

Thinking about this further ...... It's almost seems like her hatred and jealousy for your Ex, and much more than her love for you.

 

It's like she wants your Ex to suffer and live a miserable life. Why isn't the fact that she got you enough for her?

 

Her focus from the beginning was to get you from your Ex. Then having done that, she HAD to be at the venue on the day to see your Ex humiliated and hurt. Who does that!!! Relishing in the pleasure of another woman's pain.

 

Having accomplished her mission back then, she continues wanting the worse life can dish out to your Ex. My guess is that she'd be happy if your Ex just no longer existed.

 

I think she is also angry/jealous that you actually chose someone like your Ex, because she thinks she's so much better than her and can't understand why you were ever with her.

 

It's way more than a red flag. Remember that people generally don't disclose everything they feel. So bearing in mind what she has said about your Ex, there must be many more worse thoughts about your Ex going on in her mind.

 

I've seen this level of jealousy result in very unpleasant outcomes for the subject of the hatred.

 

She fakes liking your Ex, why don't you think she is faking liking your children?

[Dancewithme]

First of all, I think your ex deserves a trophy. She has come out of the ordeal of being cheated on, and jilted at the altar by you, and still has a good relationship with you, and your wife? What a woman, my hat's off to her!

 

And your wife knows your ex is is an exemplary woman. As a mother, and in her career.

 

Your wife is unreasonably jealous. She wants your ex to fail at life and be alone because she knows she can't measure up to your ex. Your wife seems to hate a woman who has done nothing wrong to her. Your ex has taken the crap that you and your wife have dealt her with grace, and your wife can't stand it.

 

I think your wife needs serious therapy to deal with her feelings. I have to tell you, your wife going to the wedding to have a front-seat view of what was probably the worst day of your ex's life is just sick, and creepy. And a big red flag. That moment right there would have made me reevaluate my feelings for wife/ Wendy. wife's issues left to fester unchecked can only bring trouble. I think you must forcibly , and with consequences nip that stuff when she tries it, while shuttling her off to counseling. Let her know it is a deal breaker to disrespect the mother of your kids more than you two have already.

 

Your first responsibility in this whole situation is to protect your kids. Protect them from whatever fake, underhanded, or sly remarks your wife may make to them, or that they may overhear. This may mean making sure your kids are never alone with your wife until she receives intensive therapy to lay her demons to rest. Continue to support your ex best you can so that she can continue to be the best mom to those kids she can be.

 

I also suggest counseling for yourself to look into issues with conflict avoidance.

 

Good luck with everything.

[hoellein]

I have been with my wife for 6 years, we're mid 30's. Before we were together I was with another woman, we had kids and were engaged. I left her for my now wife. She has always been jealous of my ex. She has tried to take the kids away from her, wishes that she'd be alone and miserable, says horrible things about her. She has now officially gone crazy and needs to go. She doesn't realize how messed up this is. That's the scary part.

 

My ex has been cheated on in every relationship she has had. She's an amazing person, she is just a doormat and other reasons. She has been single for a few months and my wife went out of her way to make my ex hurt more. She admitted to it, after I found out from someone else, thinking transparency would make it OK in my book. She searched online dating sites and found my ex. Then made many fake profiles and talked to her. She'd set up dates then obviously no show, and sometimes go to the spot to watch my ex "suffer". After the "guy" no showed she had "him" message and say she was ugly, fat, saw her and left, found someone better, etc. My wife changed her number repeatedly so she could text her.

 

If that wasn't bad enough, and I have no clue how long that went on, she went further. She found a guy, from somewhere down in the gutter, to go out with her. They went out quite a few times, apparently had sex (she doesn't hook up with just anyone), after they had sex he vanished and told my ex she was horrific in bed, loose, promiscuous, etc.

 

Meanwhile my wife has been trying to play nice with her and invited her to our home recently. The entire time my ex was here my wife was all over me, kissing me, cuddling, rubbing me, etc. I'd pull away because even I was uncomfortable and she kept doing it. To try and one up my ex by showing her how "happy" we are, meanwhile she can't get anyone.

 

My ex has been upset lately, it's been obvious on pick up and drop off exchanges. We don't talk about it but I knew something was up. Apparently what was up was my wife. My wife doesn't see anything wrong with it. I can't take it anymore. She is so vindictive and miserable. I want her out of my life but I have a feeling that won't be easy.

[herodgrant]

I'm curious as to why you left your ex for your current wife? I'm assuming your wife didn't act like this at the beginning of your relationship? Sounds like she's very threatened and actually quite a nasty person. Is that because you cheated with her, so she's afraid it's only a matter of time before you'll cheat on her?

[hoellein]

I'm curious as to why you left your ex for your current wife? I'm assuming your wife didn't act like this at the beginning of your relationship? Sounds like she's very threatened and actually quite a nasty person. Is that because you cheated with her, so she's afraid it's only a matter of time before you'll cheat on her?

 

I wasn't in love with my ex anymore. We had kids and I proposed out of guilt/obligation. She wanted to be married, and I tried to go along with it it. In the end I couldn't, which I'm not proud to admit.

 

My wife doesn't like that she was the OW. She doesn't like that I have kids with my ex and not her (even though she doesn't want kids). She doesn't like that I have a good relationship with my ex. She doesn't like that my ex has a better career than her. She wants to win, and in her world winning means making my ex miserable. She thinks I'll go back to my ex, so she wants to make her seem totally undesirable to me. So if no other man wants her, I shouldn't either. She wants my ex to think she is worthless and not good enough for anyone.

[GorillaTheater]

Have you told your wife in no uncertain terms to knock this juvenile crap off?

[Philosoraptor]

Sounds like the divorce part is going to be your easiest step.

 

I'd meet with a lawyer before serving any divorce papers. Figure out ahead of time how shared assets will be separated, and who should move out the shared living spaces. Also become familiar with restraining orders.

 

Prepare for the same kind of treatment she is giving your ex.

 

I can't overstate how much your escape plan is going to matter here. Get everything ironed out before you let her know your intentions. Your life would be sure hell otherwise.

[Michelle ma Belle]

I wasn't in love with my ex anymore. We had kids and I proposed out of guilt/obligation. She wanted to be married, and I tried to go along with it it. In the end I couldn't, which I'm not proud to admit.

 

My wife doesn't like that she was the OW. She doesn't like that I have kids with my ex and not her (even though she doesn't want kids). She doesn't like that I have a good relationship with my ex. She doesn't like that my ex has a better career than her. She wants to win, and in her world winning means making my ex miserable. She thinks I'll go back to my ex, so she wants to make her seem totally undesirable to me. So if no other man wants her, I shouldn't either. She wants my ex to think she is worthless and not good enough for anyone.

 

So does this mean you had an affair with your now wife while you were trying to work it out with you baby mama?

 

I'm confused.

[aileD]

I remember your story. Didn't your now wife show up to see your ex fiancées pain when you left her the day of the wedding or something like that?

 

Your current wife is showing her true colors and they aren't very attractive are they?

 

Cut yourself loose, be thankful you don't have any kids,and be prepared to document EVERYTHING because I see you having to get a restraining order in the future.

 

She'll try to ruin your life too. Be prepared. Change all your info and don't go on dating websites, warn your employer and family/friends that she might try to do something.

Edited December 8, 2016 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[hoellein]

Have you told your wife in no uncertain terms to knock this juvenile crap off?

 

Yes, time and time again. I'll admit I lost it when I found this out. Privately saying she hates my ex, on whatever I could deal with it. But going out of her way to do this? Who the F does that? I have never lost my temper so much. Which of course, pissed off my wife because obviously that means I still love my ex.

 

Sounds like the divorce part is going to be your easiest step.

 

I'd meet with a lawyer before serving any divorce papers. Figure out ahead of time how shared assets will be separated, and who should move out the shared living spaces. Also become familiar with restraining orders.

 

Prepare for the same kind of treatment she is giving your ex.

 

I can't overstate how much your escape plan is going to matter here. Get everything ironed out before you let her know your intentions. Your life would be sure hell otherwise.

 

Yeah to be honest I'm scared about what other crap she will pull. I definitely need all my ducks in a row. I feel like dropping her off at a mental institute.

 

So does this mean you had an affair with your now wife while you were trying to work it out with you baby mama?

 

I'm confused.

 

When I was engaged to my ex I had an affair with my (current) wife. I have never cheated on my wife. I left my ex-fiance for my wife, basically. Hopefully that makes sense. All I can think about is that I married a nutcase.

Edited December 8, 2016 by hoellein

[BlueIris]

Though not as bad as your wife at all, my exH’s (second) wife was and has been vindictive and nasty for 15 years. I’m warning you your wife will mess with your kids. My exH’s wife has messed with mine and he’s tacitly allowed it. Divorce this woman ASAP and protect your children. By harming their mother she is already harming them but it will get worse, more direct.

[S2B]

If you find her consistent bad behavior disposable - why haven't you taken action to end the marriage?

 

What you do is take charge of YOUR life! What do you plan to do to change things?

[hoellein]

I remember your story. Didn't your now wife show up to see your ex fiancées pain when you left her the day of the wedding or something like that?

 

Your current wife is showing her true colors and they aren't very attractive are they?

 

Cut yourself loose, be thankful you don't have any kids,and be prepared to document EVERYTHING because I see you having to get a restraining order in the future.

 

She'll try to ruin your life too. Be prepared. Change all your info and don't go on dating websites, warn your employer and family/friends that she might try to do something.

 

Yeah, she went to the venue were I was supposed to marry my ex to watch her hurt and make sure I ended it. She's a nutcase and I enabled her for a long time. Kept brushing it under the rug. Who knows if this is even the worst of it.

 

At this point I'd much rather have stayed with my ex than be married to this woman. At least she was sane and a normal human.

 

I'm very thankful we don't have kids together, it makes it easier to get out of this mess. Unfortunately we work together so that will have to be resolved somehow. I can see her acting out worse to my ex and myself when I leave. I'm going to have to tell my ex which won't be fun. Right now she doesn't know half of it.

 

I just found out about this and I'm done at this point. My wife said she wanted to go to the guys apartment, invite my ex over and let her walk in to them screwing. How does anyone think that is OK.

 

She's screwing with me, my kids, my ex. What next? She kidnaps the kids or something? I can't believe I didn't see it sooner.