sooshi Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) It's great that you're getting in some exercise. Do listen to your body. How about doing some cardio? A bit of jogging, maybe? Yes, I've noticed that you put a great deal of thought into things, and I can see how it is harming your health. Truth be told, I would care less about your inexperience, your current living/job situation, your height as much as your attitude. The way you treat yourself. The way you treat others. I don't think it comes as a surprise to you that it's definitely an area that could use some work. I am glad you are doing therapy. What have you gained from it? As for food, you don't have to eliminate sugar completely, but I'd get rid of the processed foods as much as possible. For fruits, berries, apples, and pears are good for blood sugar levels. Beans, legumes. Vegetables, get different colours (green, red, yellow, orange... whatever appeals to you). Nuts, seeds, and their butters. (preferably raw) Healthy oils like flax, olive, and hemp (for salads--do not heat); coconut oil or ghee (clarified butter) for cooking. Organic meat, eggs. Unpasteurized and organic dairy, if possible. Don't feel like you have to make all these changes all at once. Take steps. Come up with a plan. Share it with us, if you want. For instance, maybe you'll: Take a 20 minute brisk walk on Wednesday and Friday. List what you're grateful for, and do that daily (or so). Eat one meal a day with only whole foods (ie., nothing processed). etc. Go to the health food store, pick up some magnesium (as it is a natural muscle relaxant/body-calming agent), and be thankful that you care enough about yourself to go to the store and pick up something that your body will love. Good luck. Edited October 18, 2016 by sooshi 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author NJ123 Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 It's great that you're getting in some exercise. Do listen to your body. How about doing some cardio? A bit of jogging, maybe? Yes, I've noticed that you put a great deal of thought into things, and I can see how it is harming your health. Truth be told, I would care less about your inexperience, your current living/job situation, your height as much as your attitude. The way you treat yourself. The way you treat others. I don't think it comes as a surprise to you that it's definitely an area that could use some work. I am glad you are doing therapy. What have you gained from it? As for food, you don't have to eliminate sugar completely, but I'd get rid of the processed foods as much as possible. For fruits, berries, apples, and pears are good for blood sugar levels. Beans, legumes. Vegetables, get different colours (green, red, yellow, orange... whatever appeals to you). Nuts, seeds, and their butters. (preferably raw) Healthy oils like flax, olive, and hemp (for salads--do not heat); coconut oil or ghee (clarified butter) for cooking. Organic meat, eggs. Unpasteurized and organic dairy, if possible. Don't feel like you have to make all these changes all at once. Take steps. Come up with a plan. Share it with us, if you want. For instance, maybe you'll: Take a 20 minute brisk walk on Wednesday and Friday. List what you're grateful for, and do that daily (or so). Eat one meal a day with only whole foods (ie., nothing processed). etc. Go to the health food store, pick up some magnesium (as it is a natural muscle relaxant/body-calming agent), and be thankful that you care enough about yourself to go to the store and pick up something that your body will love. Good luck. I don't think cardio would really benefit me much since I need to probably gain more weight more than anything. I want to bulk up & put on more muscle. Yep, I've always been a deep thinker for most of my life. It's just always been a part of me I suppose. But with having all these issues piled up on me it makes things even worse since I have a gazillion things on my mind from my physical health issue, mental things, the whole dating problem, job situation, etc. It's a lot to take on all at once & it sometimes literally feels like a nightmare I can't escape having all these problems at once. And you're probably a rarity since I don't think a lot of women would be okay with my situation. True, it just seems like a lot of those foods don't have many calories in them though. Is there anything you recommend that have a decent amount of calories? I've been trying to have a high calorie intake to put on some more weight. True, I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a few changes to my daily routine. And I really need to just get the magnesium. I forget, but which brand & type as well as dosage should I get? I'll probably order it off of Vitamin Shoppe or Amazon since I feel I have nothing to lose but to give it a try. Link to post Share on other sites
truthtripper Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I don't think cardio would really benefit me much since I need to probably gain more weight more than anything. I want to bulk up & put on more muscle. Yep, I've always been a deep thinker for most of my life. It's just always been a part of me I suppose. But with having all these issues piled up on me it makes things even worse since I have a gazillion things on my mind from my physical health issue, mental things, the whole dating problem, job situation, etc. It's a lot to take on all at once & it sometimes literally feels like a nightmare I can't escape having all these problems at once. And you're probably a rarity since I don't think a lot of women would be okay with my situation. True, it just seems like a lot of those foods don't have many calories in them though. Is there anything you recommend that have a decent amount of calories? I've been trying to have a high calorie intake to put on some more weight. True, I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a few changes to my daily routine. And I really need to just get the magnesium. I forget, but which brand & type as well as dosage should I get? I'll probably order it off of Vitamin Shoppe or Amazon since I feel I have nothing to lose but to give it a try. The best muscle food is whey protein. I'm thin and weak myself so I'm going to get some. Ori Hofmekler on Nutrition: Food that Strengthens Muscles Eat strengthening foods rather than high calorie foods. I just ordered an eggshell membrane supplement, which is supposed to strengthen connective tissues(ligaments, tendons, ) and joints. If you can get some marrow bones from the butcher and boil them up, bone broth is extremely healthful. My Chinese medicine practitioner says chicken broth is also strengthening. Link to post Share on other sites
truthtripper Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Check this out Grass-Fed and Pasture-Raised Miracle Whey Protein Powder Link to post Share on other sites
truthtripper Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 If you have a milk allergy, I was just looking up vegan protein-legumes, beans, nuts, seeds. Plant foods with all the amino acids are quinoa, buckwheat, hemp seeds, chia, soy(but can effect your oestrogen levels). Link to post Share on other sites
sooshi Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) NJ, that was the second time I made a list of foods that you could benefit from (and have calories). You don't think that nuts/seeds/their butters/healthy oils have calories? More importantly, HEALTHY FATS? Do your own research. As someone said earlier in the thread, go OUTSIDE to a health food store to get some magnesium. At the very least, you can interact with a cashier. GET OUTSIDE. What brand and dosage. MidwestUSA and I have already touched on this, given you advice, you didn't take it. Just go to the store and ask for their thoughts on a brand, etc. Start with one capsule and build up. So, your only goal is to gain weight? How about, uh, eating more healthfully? So that your body can be healthier and happier? So that you can feel better?! I'm choosing not to participate in this thread anymore. It's the right choice for me. I hope you make some right choices for you. Good luck. Edited October 18, 2016 by sooshi 2 Link to post Share on other sites
truthtripper Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) So let's hypothetically say what you're saying is correct. Than what is my course of action to take then? I'm still left with this burning in my ears/head among other symptoms. As well as feeling like something is out of place on the right side of my jaw. The muscles or something just don't feel right. I know my body since the left side feels much different than my right side. It feels like on my right side a muscle is tight or stuck & than I hear a pop sound than the crackling/popping sounds start until it weakly goes back into place until it pops again. I don't get it. NJ, connective tissue disorders are the most undiagnosed of medical conditions. You may have one. Many people get told from one doctor after another that it's in their heads, until they find a doctor who is more knowledgeable in this area. The problem is that in med school they get taught about organs, but not much about what connects them or lies in between. I don't know where you reside, but there is a physio in the US who specialises in detecting CTDs. Muldowney Physical Therapy I know you have had x Ray's and scans done, but often problems don't show up on them. Edited October 18, 2016 by truthtripper Link to post Share on other sites
Author NJ123 Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 NJ, connective tissue disorders are the most undiagnosed of medical conditions. You may have one. Many people get told from one doctor after another that it's in their heads, until they find a doctor who is more knowledgeable in this area. The problem is that in med school they get taught about organs, but not much about what connects them or lies in between. I don't know where you reside, but there is a physio in the US who specialises in detecting CTDs. Muldowney Physical Therapy I know you have had x Ray's and scans done, but often problems don't show up on them. What are my options if this is actually my issue? I'm just so sick & tired of this crap now. If this magnesium stuff doesn't help or my doctor visit can't do anything for me on Thursday than I'll have to probably live with this issue the rest of my life since if it hasn't gotten better by now than it won't ever. Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestUSA Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Are you telling me you couldn't be bothered to get some saline spray and irrigate your sinuses? All because the doctor gave you a steroid spray that only worked for a while? Do you have any idea how many areas are affected by the trigeminal nerve, and what a little bit of pressure on it can do? I'm not talking out my butt, I've lived all summer with it, and now have to have a repeat surgery in December. But, carry on as you are. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nikki Sahagin Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I know that your health issue is a separate beast and naturally will consume a lot of you thinking but I think it would be helpful to work on your self-esteem and self-confidence in the meantime. Many people are ill and have health issues (not to devalue your experience as it is a difficult experience - anyone would agree!) but not all feel helpless, at least not all the time. Can you get into any therapeutic practices like yoga or meditation to help clear your mind? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
truthtripper Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 What are my options if this is actually my issue? I'm just so sick & tired of this crap now. If this magnesium stuff doesn't help or my doctor visit can't do anything for me on Thursday than I'll have to probably live with this issue the rest of my life since if it hasn't gotten better by now than it won't ever. If your TMJ is unstable due to weak connective tissue(ligaments), it can cause nerve pain. The joints only have to be out by millimetres for discomfort to happen and this will most likely not be detected on scans or X rays. A physical therapist who has knowledge of connective tissue disorders will not only test your jaw but also other joints in your body. CTDs can be successfully managed with a knowledgeable therapist who can realign your joints and give you the appropriate exercises to do on your own. But most PTs are not CTD aware enough so if you're in the US I would suggest you try to see Muldowney or go to John Hopkins Uni. It's an extremely specialised area. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author NJ123 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 I just feel I worry so much about so many things that I just start to feel stressed out. Like it could be about almost anything that I wish I could have but don't. I just feel I constantly stress myself out over things & always feel like I'm left out or something. I have to try to be more positive but I feel my mind doesn't allow me to & I just start to get that feeling of dread when others have what I don't. It's not always just relationship type of things, but other things too like being able to travel a lot with good friends which I rarely ever have done, or having a more outgoing personality where they can easily talk to people they never even met before. Even when I go on forums like this, when I read certain topics I feel they just trigger me since I'm not a lot of people's ideal person due to a number of things. I used to think of myself as really attractive in looks, but then to come to find out I'm not even in the vast majority of women's preferences based on OLD & reading different forums it's just a huge letdown to find that out. I need to find a way to free my mind per se to not let anything of this stuff get to me. Link to post Share on other sites
AMJ Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I actually wasn't even on here for over a year or so since when I first started posting. It just feels at this point I'm going to die without ever being with anyone. That feeling isn't good at all. Day after day I'm just reminded of what I don't have when I see others in relationships. I just wish it wasn't so difficult to get a relationship these days unless someone just wants to be with anyone where they probably won't be happy. This type of thinking is depression. Maybe antidepressants didn't work for you, but this is depression. And it's difficult to be positive a lot of the time when dealing with the things I have to. How am I supposed to just be positive when I'm in the position I'm in. Also depression. But also, just think of all the thoughtful advice you've been given here, from complete strangers who take time to write lots of long posts in response to your concerns. For no reason at all, these people actually want to help you. Shouldn't that make you feel at least a tad bit better about your position? It's time for you to take some ownership of your position. You've made life choices and are living daily the result of those choices. I used to work with terminally ill patients who were slowly dying each day because of a disease that they contracted due to no fault of their own- this disease has no known cause or cure. Lots of them were depressed, understandably. But lots of them surprised me so often with a newfound appreciation for the short life they had left. They cherished and valued every single minute of every single day. These are people who could no longer speak, walk, eat, or sometimes breathe without assistance. Young people in their 30s and 40s and 50s, with families, in the prime of their lives. These families would be struggling to pay insane medical bills and support households on a single income because the patient could obviously no longer work, and 24/hr in home nursing care is not affordable for most. I was fortunate to have that experience of working with them, because I learned never to take anything in life for granted. Whenever I run or walk, I think of others who can't. A few years later I worked with other extremely low income populations, and I'd always be surprised by their positive outlook and generosity- sometimes the people who have the least in life give the most to others. I know everyone is going through something, but there's different levels of severity in them. Some go through things that are just minor where they'll be back to their regular life in no time. Others have issues that are long term that could affect their entire well being. And that's the thing. It's so much easier for others to say when they've had relationships already. When you've never had one it's a whole different feeling like no one views you as good enough. So when you say- yeah I know everyone is going through something- I kind of want to smack you to wake you up to this reality that your life really isn't so terrible. You have parents who are supporting you- what if they'd kicked you out long ago? What if they'd died? What if you had no one to help you while you're figuring your own life out? You have a job. What if you couldn't find a job? You have the option to go to college- so many people do not have even that option. You have challenges, and I'm not disputing that. But you also have many, many blessings you need to learn to be more grateful for. Being appreciative of things will help you overcome depression and motivate you to move forward and make progress on many fronts. True, I just always constantly overthink almost every little thing. The relationship thing definitely has some part of it since I can't stop thinking about how I'm inexperienced. This is anxiety. Anxiety sucks, I've had it too. Medication can help, so can yoga or acupuncture and chinese herbs, and therapy, and the many other things people have suggested. Also, you should just create a plan. Step by step, how to enroll in college. Focus on one goal at a time. Then you can feel a sense of accomplishment and your anxiety will lessen. Then you can tackle the next goal with confidence because you were successful with your last goal. Step by step, stop looking at the big picture all at once. I'm really inconsistent with it where I'd go for like a month straight, than I'd stop going for a month or two, than return for awhile, etc. I need to find a way to stick with an exercise routine. Again, stick to a routine, step by step. Make a plan. Make a calendar and list out the things you need to do each day- gym, enrolling in college classes, etc. Without a plan you will never be successful. And I just need to force myself to enroll in something for school but it's just so difficult to decide on what. I know it's me that has to figure it out but I don't know what I'd be good at or enjoy. Didn't you say you still have general education credits to complete? If so, take those classes! I think I remember you mentioned an interest in computers? Take a few classes for the computer science degree. See how those classes work out for you. It's not a lifelong commitment, if you hate those classes you can switch into another program. The average student changes their major 3x in college. I say that to let you know and emphasize that you are struggling with something that all students struggle with- how to pick a path. Which means you have a very common problem. Common problem means- there are many resources available to help you! People write books, there are trained career consultants, colleges have counselors and career centers and just oodles of tools to help students pick a path. Make an appointment at the college to talk to someone, they can tell you about the resources they have. People are paid to help you figure this out, and if you meet with someone at the community college, it will be free for you to talk to them. There are websites even you can search to find these resources, you don't even have to make an appointment. You're never going to know "what you'll be good at or enjoy" until you give something a shot. That means you gotta pick something and take a class or three, and you'll start to figure it out. People change careers during the course of their life, none of that happens easily, it's all calculated risks and effort, but finding a good fit that will make you happy, won't happen if you do nothing. You must start somewhere, and do something. Yep, I've always been a deep thinker for most of my life. It's just always been a part of me I suppose. But with having all these issues piled up on me it makes things even worse since I have a gazillion things on my mind from my physical health issue, mental things, the whole dating problem, job situation, etc. It's a lot to take on all at once & it sometimes literally feels like a nightmare I can't escape having all these problems at once. And you're probably a rarity since I don't think a lot of women would be okay with my situation. More anxiety. I just feel I worry so much about so many things that I just start to feel stressed out. Like it could be about almost anything that I wish I could have but don't. I just feel I constantly stress myself out over things & always feel like I'm left out or something. I have to try to be more positive but I feel my mind doesn't allow me to & I just start to get that feeling of dread when others have what I don't. It's not always just relationship type of things, but other things too like being able to travel a lot with good friends which I rarely ever have done, or having a more outgoing personality where they can easily talk to people they never even met before. Even when I go on forums like this, when I read certain topics I feel they just trigger me since I'm not a lot of people's ideal person due to a number of things. I used to think of myself as really attractive in looks, but then to come to find out I'm not even in the vast majority of women's preferences based on OLD & reading different forums it's just a huge letdown to find that out. I need to find a way to free my mind per se to not let anything of this stuff get to me. And more anxiety. I'm pointing that out because, no I'm not a doctor, but I know what anxiety is, since I've had it myself. And yours is severe, you need to treat it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author NJ123 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 This type of thinking is depression. Maybe antidepressants didn't work for you, but this is depression. Also depression. But also, just think of all the thoughtful advice you've been given here, from complete strangers who take time to write lots of long posts in response to your concerns. For no reason at all, these people actually want to help you. Shouldn't that make you feel at least a tad bit better about your position? It's time for you to take some ownership of your position. You've made life choices and are living daily the result of those choices. I used to work with terminally ill patients who were slowly dying each day because of a disease that they contracted due to no fault of their own- this disease has no known cause or cure. Lots of them were depressed, understandably. But lots of them surprised me so often with a newfound appreciation for the short life they had left. They cherished and valued every single minute of every single day. These are people who could no longer speak, walk, eat, or sometimes breathe without assistance. Young people in their 30s and 40s and 50s, with families, in the prime of their lives. These families would be struggling to pay insane medical bills and support households on a single income because the patient could obviously no longer work, and 24/hr in home nursing care is not affordable for most. I was fortunate to have that experience of working with them, because I learned never to take anything in life for granted. Whenever I run or walk, I think of others who can't. A few years later I worked with other extremely low income populations, and I'd always be surprised by their positive outlook and generosity- sometimes the people who have the least in life give the most to others. So when you say- yeah I know everyone is going through something- I kind of want to smack you to wake you up to this reality that your life really isn't so terrible. You have parents who are supporting you- what if they'd kicked you out long ago? What if they'd died? What if you had no one to help you while you're figuring your own life out? You have a job. What if you couldn't find a job? You have the option to go to college- so many people do not have even that option. You have challenges, and I'm not disputing that. But you also have many, many blessings you need to learn to be more grateful for. Being appreciative of things will help you overcome depression and motivate you to move forward and make progress on many fronts. This is anxiety. Anxiety sucks, I've had it too. Medication can help, so can yoga or acupuncture and chinese herbs, and therapy, and the many other things people have suggested. Also, you should just create a plan. Step by step, how to enroll in college. Focus on one goal at a time. Then you can feel a sense of accomplishment and your anxiety will lessen. Then you can tackle the next goal with confidence because you were successful with your last goal. Step by step, stop looking at the big picture all at once. Again, stick to a routine, step by step. Make a plan. Make a calendar and list out the things you need to do each day- gym, enrolling in college classes, etc. Without a plan you will never be successful. Didn't you say you still have general education credits to complete? If so, take those classes! I think I remember you mentioned an interest in computers? Take a few classes for the computer science degree. See how those classes work out for you. It's not a lifelong commitment, if you hate those classes you can switch into another program. The average student changes their major 3x in college. I say that to let you know and emphasize that you are struggling with something that all students struggle with- how to pick a path. Which means you have a very common problem. Common problem means- there are many resources available to help you! People write books, there are trained career consultants, colleges have counselors and career centers and just oodles of tools to help students pick a path. Make an appointment at the college to talk to someone, they can tell you about the resources they have. People are paid to help you figure this out, and if you meet with someone at the community college, it will be free for you to talk to them. There are websites even you can search to find these resources, you don't even have to make an appointment. You're never going to know "what you'll be good at or enjoy" until you give something a shot. That means you gotta pick something and take a class or three, and you'll start to figure it out. People change careers during the course of their life, none of that happens easily, it's all calculated risks and effort, but finding a good fit that will make you happy, won't happen if you do nothing. You must start somewhere, and do something. More anxiety. And more anxiety. I'm pointing that out because, no I'm not a doctor, but I know what anxiety is, since I've had it myself. And yours is severe, you need to treat it. I want to take antidepressants but whenever I take any sort of medication I start to feel even weirder due to this other issue I'm dealing with with the burning in my head & ears. It's likely affecting a nerve which is why the drugs make me feel really odd while taking them. So I feel I have to figure out how to fix this burning issue than I can try antidepressants again. And yeah, I appreciate people trying to help me out, but I don't mean to sound like an a-hole here but sometimes when someone posts it feels like more of an attack than trying to help me. I've been called a loser & other things on here by people supposedly trying to help me. There's been a lot of great posters though just some of them have been jerks. And I'm thinking of doing a 2 year program in something, but I don't think I'd have to take general education courses for that. I already got those out of the way for my associates degree. So if I do a 2 year program, I don't think I'd have to take them again as far as I know. And I'm going to look tonight & maybe take a few career assessment tests to see what careers would be best for me. Link to post Share on other sites
Sunkissedpatio Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I'm sorry I've not read the entire thread and if I'm repeating something that's already been suggested. It sounds like if you are suffering from a form of chronic pain that is consistently coming out negative when you have tests done, that you could be suffering from depression or anxiety. Depression can cause many forms of mysterious pains that keep coming up undetected. Link to post Share on other sites
Sunkissedpatio Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Also, the TMJ pain, if you are suffering from anxiety you might be grinding your teeth while you sleep. This would definitely compromise your TMJ. Have you had that checked out at your dentist? They can see just by looking at the wear in your molars. Link to post Share on other sites
Author NJ123 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 Also, the TMJ pain, if you are suffering from anxiety you might be grinding your teeth while you sleep. This would definitely compromise your TMJ. Have you had that checked out at your dentist? They can see just by looking at the wear in your molars. I've been told I grind in my sleep, but I've already been made 3 different type of night guards & they don't do anything for me. I've had MRI & X-Ray done on my TMJ too & they came back normal. I just don't know what exactly I have to do to get rid of his burning feeling in my body. It's almost like instead of an anxiety feeling, it's a burning feeling instead. I'm assuming the muscles in my face are affecting a nerve causing the burning feelings. I just don't know what to do to fix it though. Link to post Share on other sites
AMJ Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 You need to manage your stress better. Calm down, and treat this anxiety. Stress is a killer- seriously. People don't just talk about stress because stress is unpleasant, it's been scientifically proven to harm our health in many many ways. And I second that notion about depression causing physical pain, I've felt that too, from being depressed. I've had success with 5HTP, it's a vitamin that helps with depression and gives you clarity and energy. But you are very much suffering from severe anxiety and it's impacting everything that's bothering you. Talk to your therapist about stress management and find an outlet that works for you. Lots of people get relief from exercise- swimming, walking, running, yoga, cycling. Or mediation. I actually get a lot of stress relief from gardening, and since you said you're sometimes OCD I think gardening can be a great outlet for that as well, pulling weeds comes to mind. It's the simplest but most rewarding way I can feel like a perfectionist, by making the garden look perfect. And that causes no one any harm. Maybe you'd like painting or writing. I have no idea. But these suggestions do work, so do all the suggestions people have given you already. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sunkissedpatio Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Well NJ anxiety is a very powerful attack on your body. The over-thinking that you describe is a sign that you are suffering from some form of anxiety. Before my split I felt like I was going insane with all the over-thinking and stress of the last few months of my relationship and personal things happening with my mother. I was always very against taking medication and felt I could manage on my own. But in an act of desperation I decide to talk to my MD and my therapist about exploring a type of medication that could help me curb some of the over-thinking. I never suffered from "panic attacks" but I was definitely doing a LOT of over-thinking. I started taking a low dose of an anti-anxiety med I had dabbled with a few years back when I was experiencing really bad chronic headaches. This time within a couple of months the headaches lifted and I hardly ever get them anymore. I feel free-er of mind and feel a lot less stressed even though the last two months have been very stressful due to family and work demands. It's been about 7 months now and I feel very balanced and clear. It has improved my life significantly, mind you, so is being out of a relationship that was not good for me in the end. I feel a lot more focused and motivated to do things to improve my well-being. And the over-thinking just isn't happening. I still get mild anxiety here and there but I can see things through with a lot more clarity and I am just managing things way better. That, combined with therapy, is really proving to be a great combo for me. The biggest physical change is I do not get all the weird headaches or the stomach pains. I used to feel dizzy and nauseated a lot. Like at least once a week I was feeling some form of physical impalement and just exhausted all the time. All that is gone. I'm working out too. I'm not sure how long you were on meds before but you have to ride out the first few months for your body to adjust and that is the real test of how you react to it. Sometimes you have to try more than one until you find the right fit. Edited October 21, 2016 by Sunkissedpatio 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sunkissedpatio Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 This article explains things really well, if you are inclined to read it... https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/the-long-term-consequences-of-negative-stress/ Link to post Share on other sites
Author NJ123 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 You need to manage your stress better. Calm down, and treat this anxiety. Stress is a killer- seriously. People don't just talk about stress because stress is unpleasant, it's been scientifically proven to harm our health in many many ways. And I second that notion about depression causing physical pain, I've felt that too, from being depressed. I've had success with 5HTP, it's a vitamin that helps with depression and gives you clarity and energy. But you are very much suffering from severe anxiety and it's impacting everything that's bothering you. Talk to your therapist about stress management and find an outlet that works for you. Lots of people get relief from exercise- swimming, walking, running, yoga, cycling. Or mediation. I actually get a lot of stress relief from gardening, and since you said you're sometimes OCD I think gardening can be a great outlet for that as well, pulling weeds comes to mind. It's the simplest but most rewarding way I can feel like a perfectionist, by making the garden look perfect. And that causes no one any harm. Maybe you'd like painting or writing. I have no idea. But these suggestions do work, so do all the suggestions people have given you already. I'm just wondering where my burning is coming from. I think it has to do with my muscles in my face being out of wack. I don't know what else it could be. And my type of OCD is more of an uncommon one from the public called Pure O OCD. I'm not sure if you heard of it but it's not things like obsessive hand washing, but it's in the mind of repetitive thoughts & other horrid things. I've actually also tried 5HTP a very long time ago & it did nothing for me. But I really need to come up with a plan to get to the gym regularly again. 2 years ago, I was in extremely good shape but than I just slacked off & lost all my size. I'd have to stay very consistent in the gym to get to that body shape again. Link to post Share on other sites
Author NJ123 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 This article explains things really well, if you are inclined to read it... https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/the-long-term-consequences-of-negative-stress/ Yeah, I've read articles in the past about stress. I know what it can do. Link to post Share on other sites
AMJ Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I'm just wondering where my burning is coming from. I think it has to do with my muscles in my face being out of wack. I don't know what else it could be. Well, have you thought that it could be due to stress and anxiety? Since you've had so many tests and they all come back inconclusive. Maybe it's time you try to manage your stress and anxiety. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sooshi Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) NJ, I know I said I wasn't going to comment in this thread, but yeah, guess what? I care about you. I must say that your attitude is very draining, though, which tends to make me want to stay away. I also don't want to coddle you, and sometimes I feel like I am. 5-HTP. It's a good suggestion from AMJ. You say you tried it and it did nothing for you. How long did you try it for, and how much did you take? Did you take it daily? A lot of people who take supplements try it for a short time, and report back that it didn't do anything for them. Often, a reason is because they didn't take it long enough. And/or not at the right dosage (more often we take less than our body needs at first--and after a week or two, we can decrease). You have been given a lot of good strategies at dealing with anxiety. Now, actually take some of that advice and put it into action. As I've mentioned several times, magnesium malate/bisglycinate/glycinate is great. You also need a good B-complex because stress and anxiety deplete our B vitamins, which are essential for nerve functioning, and supporting our ability to cope with stress. You recently said you were going to looking into schooling the following day. Now, you said you're going to do it tonight. I do hope you followed through with your words and did look at it before when you said he would. I want you to report back to us. You ask for help but I'm not sure that you've actually done anything to help yourself. Please report back on what your plan is--for anything (school, taking supplements such as certain vitamins and herbs, cutting down on sugar, exercises/activities to do to help ease your anxiety/stress, etc.). Choose one area, reflect on it, and get back to us, and inform us of your progress along the way. THINKING about looking into school isn't really taking action. ACTIVELY looking into programs, and coming up with a decision is. Again, report back. Otherwise, it feels we're just talking to a wall here because you keep requesting help, we keep offering you support for how to take action about the same things over and over again, and it feels like you don't follow through and that you're just wasting everyone's time. I know you don't mean to--but NJ, you really need to take action for your own life. I don't mean to be harsh, but I feel like some of us complete strangers have been more active in taking care of you than you taking care of yourself. I hope I am wrong. Please, take action, and care for yourself. We have to take care of ourselves. Now, you do the same for you. Take care. Edited October 21, 2016 by sooshi 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author NJ123 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 NJ, I know I said I wasn't going to comment in this thread, but yeah, guess what? I care about you. I must say that your attitude is very draining, though, which tends to make me want to stay away. I also don't want to coddle you, and sometimes I feel like I am. 5-HTP. It's a good suggestion from AMJ. You say you tried it and it did nothing for you. How long did you try it for, and how much did you take? Did you take it daily? A lot of people who take supplements try it for a short time, and report back that it didn't do anything for them. Often, a reason is because they didn't take it long enough. And/or not at the right dosage (increasing). You have been given a lot of good strategies at dealing with anxiety. Now, actually take some of that advice and put it into action. As I've mentioned several times, magnesium malate/bisglycinate/glycinate is great. You also need a good B-complex because stress and anxiety deplete our B vitamins, which are essential for nerve functioning, and supporting our ability to cope with stress. You recently said you were going to looking into schooling the following day. Now, you said you're going to do it tonight. I do hope you followed through with your words and did look at it before when you said he would. I want you to report back to us. You ask for help but I'm not sure that you've actually done anything to help yourself. Please report back. Otherwise, it feels we're just talking to a wall here because you keep requesting help, we keep offering you support for how to take action about the same things over and over again, and it feels like you don't follow through and that you're just wasting everyone's time. I know you don't mean to--but NJ, you really need to take action for your own life. I don't mean to be harsh, but I feel like some of us complete strangers have been more active in taking care of you than you taking care of yourself. I hope I am wrong. Please, take action, and care for yourself. We have to take care of ourselves. Now, you do the same for you. Take care. I did take a career assessment test a little earlier & these were my results as in the careers they suggested: Investment Fund Managers Category: Management Political Scientists Category: Life, Physical, and Social Science Marketing Managers Category: Management Search Marketing Strategists Category: Computer and Mathematical Fundraisers Category: Business and Financial Operations Securities and Commodities Traders Category: Sales and Related Video Game Designers Category: Computer and Mathematical Editors Category: Arts, Design, Entertainment, Sports, and Media Human Resources Managers Category: Management Energy Brokers Category: Sales and Related I honestly think editing could be really fun, but I don't think there's many jobs in that. Video Game Designer would be awesome, just the vast majority of jobs are on the west coast & I'm on the east coast. The rest I'm not so sure about. And I don't remember what the dosage of the 5-HTP was but I remember I did take it for quite awhile. Maybe over a month or so. And I'll definitely get the magnesium glycinate since you said supposedly citrate is too acidic. I did go back to actually read what you said. I didn't see anywhere where you suggested what brand or dose for the glycinate & what brand of vitamin B is good. I could have missed the post if you did say it. Someone else suggested Vitamin D as well. So what should I exactly get? Link to post Share on other sites
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