Women With Long Ring Fingers Are More Likely To Cheat

[aliveagain]

This report just blew me away. I hope this is the right forum to post this on, maybe it should be in the dating forum before people actually marry. I apologize in advance to all the ladies reading this post because this study was directed more towards female infidelity. A Study by Oxford University(Department Of Experimental Psychology) and Northumbria University (Department Of Psychology) have published a study that says women with longer ring fingers then index fingers are more likely to be promiscuous and more likely to stray. Long ring fingers indicate that they were exposed to more testosterone in their mother's womb. I guess we men should check ring fingers before we pop the question. Who would have thought a finger could tell us so much? It would be interesting to do our own survey to see if any of the wayward wives reading this forum actually have ring fingers longer then their index? Longer ring fingers in men are more common. My intent was not to offend any women but to bring the study by two respected universities forward so people can read it for themselves and make their conclusions. Thoughts?

[RecentChange]

I have a longer ring finger, and have read a number of studies regarding the correlation between fetal testosterone levels and various personality traits (plus I am into sociology so this kinda stuff just fascinates me) - I made a topic about it on this forum a while ago.

 

First, I am going to say I am not offended in any way - it's a study. Second, I will admit I have cheated. Third, I would STRONGLY caution you against making huge leaps based upon these results.

 

The sample sizes were small, finger length is one of many variables - and the other variables were not controlled in the study - lastly, finger size didn't mean yes! 100% will cheat! Just rather had a slightly higher disposition to it (as would everyone with substantial testosterone exposure). It's like those genentic screenings - carrying xyz gene means 12% more likely to have a heart attack, doesn't mean you WILL have a heart attack, but it is a predisposition.

 

Diet, lifestyle, exercise etc are greater factors than carrying the gene.

 

Relationship experience, number of sexual partners, age at time of marriage, religious affiliation, up bringing - these are all factors that have a greater influence on infidelity than finger length (and yes, I had more of these factors than just finger length).

[RecentChange]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio

 

Here are some other interesting traits associated with digital length ratio:

 

Women with long ring finger:

 

Increased aggressive behavior in sports

Assertiveness

Masculine handwriting

Mathematic ability

Increased alcohol dependency

Increased anorexia

Increased sex drive

Decrease empathy

 

For men:

Increased reproductive success

Increased chance of prostate cancer

Aggression

Increased ADHD / spectrum

Increased aggressive behavior in sports

Mathematic ability

Increased alcohol dependency

 

Shorter ring finger - women:

 

Increased reproductive success

Increased rate of psychopathy

Increased rate of schizophrenia

Increased risk in females for bulimia.

Reduced risk of alcohol dependency

Reduced financial trading ability

Reduced performance in sports

Reduced risk of video game addiction

Higher verbal fluency

Higher neuroticism

 

For males with short ring fingers:

 

Lowered sperm counts

Increased rate of schizophrenia

Increased risk for heart disease

Increased anxiety

Increased risk of obesity and metabolic syndrome

Increased risk for depression

Reduced risk of alcohol dependency

Reduced financial trading ability

Reduced performance in sports

Reduced risk of video game addiction

Higher verbal fluency

Higher neuroticism

Paranormal and superstitious beliefs

Higher exam scores

 

But all of these qualities are loosely correlated to finger length ratio. Maybe women should check the man's ring finger as well?

[merrmeade]

I have a longer ring finger, and have read a number of studies regarding the correlation between fetal testosterone levels and various personality traits (plus I am into sociology so this kinda stuff just fascinates me) - I made a topic about it on this forum a while ago.

 

First, I am going to say I am not offended in any way - it's a study. Second, I will admit I have cheated. Third, I would STRONGLY caution you against making huge leaps based upon these results.

 

The sample sizes were small, finger length is one of many variables - and the other variables were not controlled in the study - lastly, finger size didn't mean yes! 100% will cheat! Just rather had a slightly higher disposition to it (as would everyone with substantial testosterone exposure). It's like those genentic screenings - carrying xyz gene means 12% more likely to have a heart attack, doesn't mean you WILL have a heart attack, but it is a predisposition.

 

Diet, lifestyle, exercise etc are greater factors than carrying the gene.

 

Relationship experience, number of sexual partners, age at time of marriage, religious affiliation, up bringing - these are all factors that have a greater influence on infidelity than finger length (and yes, I had more of these factors than just finger length).

I'm glad you qualified the statement, though I don't really think I'd have needed anyone to point out that there are other important factors. There had to be; it's just too simplistic a correlation. There have to be more corollaries than this one biological marker. And it's not just the fact that I have a lifelong revulsion to the notion of cheating AND a longer ring finger than index.

[angel.eyes]

Just like phrenology in the 18th and 19th centuries! Then considered the only true science of the mind. Advocated vigorously by all the top medical schools of the time.

 

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

So... if long ring fingers result only from high testosterone exposure in utero

-and-

high testosterone exposure in utero results in higher rates of infidelity in adulthood, are all men more likely to cheat than women? After all, they face much higher levels in utero than female fetuses?

 

Correlation doesn't equal causation.

 

I'm curious. Did you read the actual study in a peer-reviewed journal? Or was this a sound bite on the 6 o'clock news?

[aliveagain]

Just like phrenology in the 18th and 19th centuries! Then considered the only true science of the mind. Advocated vigorously by all the top medical schools of the time.

 

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

So... if long ring fingers result only from high testosterone exposure in utero

-and-

high testosterone exposure in utero results in higher rates of infidelity in adulthood, are all men more likely to cheat than women? After all, they face much higher levels in utero than female fetuses?

 

Correlation doesn't equal causation.

 

I'm curious. Did you read the actual study in a peer-reviewed journal? Or was this a sound bite on the 6 o'clock news?

 

I read some of the material provided by Northumbria University as well as some provided by Dr. Rafael Wlodarski. I know that they have done studies with regards to finger length and sports. Since I've chosen poorly with regards to past partners( cheated on by three different partners) I thought I found a way to avoid making the same mistake in the future. The study was conducted in North America and England.

[angel.eyes]

I'm sorry to hear about your experiences. I'm not sure this is a valid or reliable way to pick better partners though.

[aussietigerwolf]

Hmm... Ring finger is longer = bad stuff + cheater

Ring finger shorter still = bad stuff but at least not a cheater?

Seems women are screwed either way lol

[Arieswoman]

Women With Long Ring Fingers Are More Likely To Cheat

 

Long in relation to what? - their other fingers? - their boyfriend's fingers?

 

Let's have a definition of "long" first !

[MidwestUSA]

Long in relation to what? - their other fingers? - their boyfriend's fingers?

 

Let's have a definition of "long" first !

 

Longer than index finger.

[road]

Just like phrenology in the 18th and 19th centuries! Then considered the only true science of the mind. Advocated vigorously by all the top medical schools of the time.

 

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

So... if long ring fingers result only from high testosterone exposure in utero

-and-

high testosterone exposure in utero results in higher rates of infidelity in adulthood, are all men more likely to cheat than women? After all, they face much higher levels in utero than female fetuses?

 

Correlation doesn't equal causation.

 

I'm curious. Did you read the actual study in a peer-reviewed journal? Or was this a sound bite on the 6 o'clock news?

 

On average males will have higher levels then females in the womb that does not mean they will cheat more.

 

 

For it is the women that were exposed to above average levels that cheated more.

 

 

So a study would have to show that men that were exposed to higher levels then what exposure level is average for men to see if ring finger length indicated increased levels of adultery.

[anika99]

This is the first time I heard about this but I always felt that I had/have more testosterone than normal for a woman (is there a normal?) Insatiable sex drive, an affinity for porn and varied partners, naturally athletic and muscular body with slim hips and small breasts, extra body hair, etc. and my ring finger is longer than my index finger.

 

All that being said, by the time I was about 23-25 I had mastered my impulse control and I knew right from wrong so i was able to refrain from cheating on any of my long term partners. Before that I didn't cheat either, I just didn't stay with any one person for very long.

[Just a Guy]

Hi folks, I thought testosterone was linked to a strong libido in both men and women according to garden gossip. What I had read about along the way was that men have an inborn drive to spread their genes far and wide as part of nature's way of ensuring that these genes survive the vicissitudes of, well, nature itself and that women along with the females of other species, especially those in monogamous unions, usually mate with other males rather than their partners, occasionally, to enable enriching of the gene pool. This behaviour is probably a relic of prehistoric times when species were at risk of extinction unless they acquired strategies to ensure propagation of the gene pool. Now, in contemporary times these strategies may not be necessary and with humans having developed intelligence and free will along with the freedom to make choices which determine the course of their lives, this behaviour may die out or, at least, theoretically, can die out because it is no longer needed.

 

Men or women cheating is probably a hangover from prehistoric behaviour when such strategies were life savers for the species. They are now superfluous, but probably so ingrained in humans that it would take a massive effort of will on the part of those inclined towards infidelity, to overcome their natural predisposition to do so. Ring finger being longer may just be a minor indicator of predisposition towards infidelity. Just some thoughts.

[lucy_in_disguise]

Longer than index finger.

 

At least according to Wikipedia, the majority of both men and women have longer ring fingers than index fingers. Men's index fingers are just statistically longer in proportion. This proportion- the ratio of index length to ring length- is what's driving the alleged statistical differences in traits.

 

So, if you wanted to date based on this extremely simplistic criteria, you'd have to measure your dates fingers to figure out where she falls on the bell curve. A visual inspection probably would not suffice.

[Just a Guy]

Hey Girl, I wanna date you but first I've got to measure your ring finger and compare it with your index finger! Are you agreeable? Slap! Get out of my sight you snivelling rat and don't let me see you again.

 

Just a mock scenario to lighten up spirits here. Why so serious after all? Have a laugh.

[GorillaTheater]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio

 

Here are some other interesting traits associated with digital length ratio:

 

 

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Interesting stuff. My ring and index fingers appear to be the exact same length, so I have a long list of bad traits to draw from.

[Haydn]

Interesting stuff. My ring and index fingers appear to be the exact same length, so I have a long list of bad traits to draw from.

 

I tend to point a lot.....

[Toodaloo]

I tend to point a lot.....

 

I tend to pick my nose a lot but that is with my little finger because I can gouge higher up...

 

I don't think we can call this sort of thing fool proof... What happens if the ring finger is longer because the other one was chopped off in an accident?

 

I have a high sex drive, much higher than most. I have no clue what my testosterone levels are and I have only cheated once perhaps twice, if you call one elicit snog near the end of relationships that were doomed anyway full on cheating... Never gone further. Never plan to either.

 

Apparently I should be a strumpet because I like lots of sex...

[preraph]

This report just blew me away. I hope this is the right forum to post this on, maybe it should be in the dating forum before people actually marry. I apologize in advance to all the ladies reading this post because this study was directed more towards female infidelity. A Study by Oxford University(Department Of Experimental Psychology) and Northumbria University (Department Of Psychology) have published a study that says women with longer ring fingers then index fingers are more likely to be promiscuous and more likely to stray. Long ring fingers indicate that they were exposed to more testosterone in their mother's womb. I guess we men should check ring fingers before we pop the question. Who would have thought a finger could tell us so much? It would be interesting to do our own survey to see if any of the wayward wives reading this forum actually have ring fingers longer then their index? Longer ring fingers in men are more common. My intent was not to offend any women but to bring the study by two respected universities forward so people can read it for themselves and make their conclusions. Thoughts?

 

So the actual conclusion here is that MEN are more likely to cheat. And women only if they got a lot of male hormones in them. Well, I will say my ring finger is long and i was promiscuous, but I DID NOT CHEAT on anyone I had any exclusive commitment whatsoever with. But they did.

[Bantosm]

I'm not familiar with the notion of long ring fingered women being more apt to cheating. I heard it applied to women with large chins because they supposedly have higher levels of testosterone. I don't follow these physical stereotypes. The women I know who were known cheaters had varied physical appearances. Cheating is a mental weakness there is no visual clue for that. I've been told by women that I look like a cheater. I've never cheated, never will.

[aliveagain]

I tend to pick my nose a lot but that is with my little finger because I can gouge higher up...

 

I don't think we can call this sort of thing fool proof... What happens if the ring finger is longer because the other one was chopped off in an accident?

 

I have a high sex drive, much higher than most. I have no clue what my testosterone levels are and I have only cheated once perhaps twice, if you call one elicit snog near the end of relationships that were doomed anyway full on cheating... Never gone further. Never plan to either.

 

Apparently I should be a strumpet because I like lots of sex...

 

You are honest and that supersedes just about everything, just my opinion.

[angel.eyes]

I tend to pick my nose a lot but that is with my little finger because I can gouge higher up...

 

That's a visual I could really have done without!

[Arieswoman]

MidwestUSA #10

 

Longer than index finger.

 

Wow ! That would be one long ring finger !!!

[stillafool]

So the lesson here is to only date men and women with short stubby fingers.

[RecentChange]

So the lesson here is to only date men and women with short stubby fingers.

 

If you are fine with a man prone to a number of health issues and a propensity for "lady fat" ;p

 

Actually it doesn't matter if the fingers are long or short, it's the ratio if length between the two fingers that is an indicator of fetal hormone exposure.

 

My husband has short thick fingers, but his ring finger is noticeably longer than his index finger. And he has a number of other traits that would point to higher testosterone.