Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale yes WOGGLE....and the kicker is that these women who are "financially independent" want a man who is of equal or greater stature than them. So a woman who is a lawyer and earns $150,000 per year wants a man who is a physician and earns $300,000 per year. She does not want aything to do with some dude who makes $40,000 per year. Women want it all, they want everything.... they want to make the money but when they do start to make the money they want a dude who makes more money than them ...talk about hypocracy. Then they accuse us of being intimidated by successful women when they go out of their way to remind us that we are below them when we make less than them Link to post Share on other sites
millefiori Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale True WOGGLE....and let me point out that a woman will almost always leave her man if he loses his income earning potential (aka, job) for a long period of time or if his career goes down the tubes or if he gambles all the familys money away. And yes, but a man would respect a woman who is not able to find a job over a long period of time and throws out the family money out of the window for shoes. Aha..... She's supposed to stay with a loser who is not capable of caring for his family at all and who demonstrate his sense of responsibility by losing money during games??? Not only do some guys on this board hate women, they also think we're idiots. Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Woggle I lookout for my own gender. I don't believe in expoiting nice women but the no good ones I have no problem using. Which proves that are you are not a great man, to say the least. I don't see any logical reason in your situation, why any woman should not be allowed to exploit a not so great man, to be honest. Are you willing to hand your future gfs a contract that you will do your own laundry, and perform your own sex? Surely as a firm believer in independence you should be able to manage that just fine. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by millefiori And yes, but a man would respect a woman who is not able to find a job over a long period of time and throws out the family money out of the window for shoes. Aha..... She's supposed to stay with a loser who is not capable of caring for his family at all and who demonstrate his sense of responsibility by losing money during games??? Not only do some guys on this board hate women, they also think we're idiots. But if women are so independent these days why is a man's worth based on his salary? Women don't stick around during the hard times a rare breed. When a woman sticks by a man during the hard times he remembers it. It means a lot to him. A woman like that is a rare treasure. Women blow money on material items all the time. They are the biggest consumers in society. Why do you think most ads are targeted towards women? Because companies know who their costumer base is. Women are way more materialistic than men. They love their stuff and the more expensive the better. No man would ever spend $500.00 dollars on a backpack but women spend that much on handbags. Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Woggle When a woman sticks by a man during the hard times he remembers it. It means a lot to him. A woman like that is a rare treasure. And the appreciation is shown by going to the earlier mentioned strip bar. That makes perfect sense. Link to post Share on other sites
tiki Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 All of you woman bashers should shut your traps. You have a choice. Go be gay. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by d'Arthez Which proves that are you are not a great man, to say the least. I don't see any logical reason in your situation, why any woman should not be allowed to exploit a not so great man, to be honest. Are you willing to hand your future gfs a contract that you will do your own laundry, and perform your own sex? Surely as a firm believer in independence you should be able to manage that just fine. I do my own laundry and clean my own house. My house is spotless and I live alone though I do have company often. Sex on other hand is better with another person. Link to post Share on other sites
tiki Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Woggle They love their stuff and the more expensive the better. No man would ever spend $500.00 dollars on a backpack but women spend that much on handbags. No, men spend theirs on cases of beer and big screen HDTV's. Niiice. Link to post Share on other sites
scratch Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by millefiori Not only do some guys on this board hate women, they also think we're idiots. If it's any consolation, you're one of the few people here with whom it's (usually) worth arguing. Having said that, I've seen a marked disconnect in what women say they look for, and what they actually do look for. Most women do want that feeling of being provided for, and the point that successful women will need more successful men than nonprofessional women is accurate, both logically and empiricially. Independence is a two way street. Women want to be treated as equals sometimes, and are outraged by not recieving chivalrous (defitionally unequal) treatment at other times. I think many guys on this board are frustrated by what they percieve to be a double-standard in terms of what women want, and are willing to give. I'm sure we've all met some good ones, too, just not enough to make them appear to be the rule rather than the exception. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by tiki All of you woman bashers should shut your traps. You have a choice. Go be gay. Being gay is not a choice. As crap as gays get these days at least gay men don't have to put up with women. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by tiki No, men spend theirs on cases of beer and big screen HDTV's. Niiice. Those things actually have a purpose. They have a function while a handbag that expensive is just pointless when there are great handbags that are no more than $10.00. I have a plasma tv and I enjoy it. I don't even like beer that much. I would rather drink some baileys are cuervo 1800. Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by scratch Independence is a two way street. Women want to be treated as equals sometimes, and are outraged by not recieving chivalrous (defitionally unequal) treatment at other times. I think many guys on this board are frustrated by what they percieve to be a double-standard in terms of what women want, and are willing to give. For someone who insist on perfectly spelled replies, there are three mistakes in this piece of text . The same double standards exists in the other direction. "She" has to be beautiful and all of the s***. She has to be an animal in bed, and tell you a million times that you are the best thing since sliced bread. Of course, we all know that the chances of these statements to be true is next to zero. But then again, the fragile male ego ... Link to post Share on other sites
tiki Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Woggle Being gay is not a choice. As crap as gays get these days at least gay men don't have to put up with women. Okay. If I decided to bash men and be a men hater, I would have a choice to play with the other team. Catch my drift? They have a function So the crap you buy has a function, but the crap we buy does not. Hmmm. Interesting. The common denominator is that it's all crap. No one should be that materialistic. Link to post Share on other sites
millefiori Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Woggle Then they accuse us of being intimidated by successful women when they go out of their way to remind us that we are below them when we make less than them Sorry, then go out and make more money if you can. Are you bitter, because you have such a lousy job and that's why you can't find any acceptable woman anymore, because all the woman make more money than you do? That is maybe a blow to your self-esteem, but sweetie, this has nothing to do with mean women, that's a problem you have. Most men will still get more money than a woman when they're doing the same job. The fact that she earns more money than you indicates what? So, you want a successful woman. Are you successful that you're allowed to make such demands? This whole thread is a long whining rant of men who can't get their **** together and believe they're sososooo great. Some people work hard to be successful and why should they not expect their partner to excel as well? Why should women not expect man to be more successful? Given the fact that they often have better chances in the business world a man with the same abilities as a woman should get farther. I'm pretty much convinced that men who whine about women and who criticize them for looking for men with equal success have no spine, no success at work, horrible social skills and instincts and worst of all - do nothing against it. They blame others for their inadequacies, they fail to actively look for solutions and they are just so depressing and that's why they lack friends and girlfriends. Rant over. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by tiki Okay. If I decided to bash men and be a men hater, I would have a choice to play with the other team. Catch my drift? So the crap you buy has a function, but the crap we buy does not. Hmmm. Interesting. The common denominator is that it's all crap. No one should be that materialistic. Again being gay is not a choice. You may wish you were gay but it is not up to you. What use could there possibly be for a $100.00 handbag? Link to post Share on other sites
scratch Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by d'Arthez For someone who insist on perfectly spelled replies, there are three mistakes in this piece of text. The same double standards exists in the other direction. "She" has to be beautiful and all of the s***. She has to be an animal in bed, and tell you a million times that you are the best thing since sliced bread. Of course, we all know that the chances of these statements to be true is next to zero. But then again, the fragile male ego ... I proofread and edited, catching two of them. It's about making an effort. I'm not sure I understand the double standard to which you're referring. That a man can look like crap and still insist his woman look great? My experience has been that women dress well for their own pleasure, for the most part, and if a woman asks a man to dress up, he does. I wasn't aware that women require less positive feedback about their sexual prowess than men do, or that they require less skill and eagerness in bed. Any other double standards that cut in favor of men? I can't think of a one. As an aside, I agree with the woman who noted that big screen TVs are no more justified than expensive handbags. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by millefiori Sorry, then go out and make more money if you can. Are you bitter, because you have such a lousy job and that's why you can't find any acceptable woman anymore, because all the woman make more money than you do? That is maybe a blow to your self-esteem, but sweetie, this has nothing to do with mean women, that's a problem you have. Most men will still get more money than a woman when they're doing the same job. The fact that she earns more money than you indicates what? So, you want a successful woman. Are you successful that you're allowed to make demands? This whole thread is a long whining rant of men who can't get their **** together and believe they're sososooo great. Some people work hard to be successful and why should they not expect their partner to excel as well? Why should women not expect man to be more successful? Given the fact that they often have better chances in the business world a man with the same abilities as a woman should get farther. I'm pretty much convinced that men who whine about women and who criticize them for looking for men with equal success have no spine, no success at work, horrible social skills and instincts and worst of all - do nothing against it. They blame others for their inadequacies, they fail to actively look for solutions and they are just so depressing and that's why they lack friends and girlfriends. Rant over. I make great money and I own my own home which is almost paid off. I am doing very well for myself but I don't want a woman who considers that a factor in dating me. Again it's the couble standards that women have. Men are accused of being intimidated my independent women yet we are made to feel like less when we don't earn as much. I also don't judge a person based on money. I grew up poor and I am so glad to have made something of myself but I never forget where I come from. I actually can;t stand the corporate world. I made most of my money playing that stock market. Link to post Share on other sites
tiki Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Woggle Again being gay is not a choice. You may wish you were gay but it is not up to you. What use could there possibly be for a $100.00 handbag? If I chose to dig women because men burn me out, then it is a choice. If a man chooses to dig men because women burn them out, it's a choice. People can get burned out on the opposite sex, you guys have proven that. So you guys should all get together and love one another. Just send the film to..... I don't know what purpose there is for a stupid $100.00 handbag. I said it was all crap already. People are too friggin materialistic. I'm currently making my own purse our of fabric scraps/patches, does that mean I'm cool as a woman in your book? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by scratch I proofread and edited, catching two of them. It's about making an effort. I'm not sure I understand the double standard to which you're referring. That a man can look like crap and still insist his woman look great? My experience has been that women dress well for their own pleasure, for the most part, and if a woman asks a man to dress up, he does. I wasn't aware that women require less positive feedback about their sexual prowess than men do, or that they require less skill and eagerness in bed. Any other double standards that cut in favor of men? I can't think of a one. As an aside, I agree with the woman who noted that big screen TVs are no more justified than expensive handbags. Big screen tvs have a use while expenseive handbags are no better than cheap ones. They both hold stuff. A plasma tv is clearly better than a 15 inch $100.00 cheapo tv. Put 2 handbags in front of me and I can't tell which one costs more. Link to post Share on other sites
scratch Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 never mind. Be nicer, Scratch. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by tiki If I chose to dig women because men burn me out, then it is a choice. If a man chooses to dig men because women burn them out, it's a choice. People can get burned out on the opposite sex, you guys have proven that. So you guys should all get together and love one another. Just send the film to..... I don't know what purpose there is for a stupid $100.00 handbag. I said it was all crap already. People are too friggin materialistic. I'm currently making my own purse our of fabric scraps/patches, does that mean I'm cool as a woman in your book? It is not that easy. Being gay is a complex thing. I know gay people and they struggle for years with their sexuality. It is not just something they turn on and off. Link to post Share on other sites
millefiori Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Woggle I make great money and I own my own home which is almost paid off. I am doing very well for myself but I don't want a woman who considers that a factor in dating me. Again it's the couble standards that women have. Men are accused of being intimidated my independent women yet we are made to feel like less when we don't earn as much. I also don't judge a person based on money. I grew up poor and I am so glad to have made something of myself but I never forget where I come from. I actually can;t stand the corporate world. I made most of my money playing that stock market. Maybe you should stop going after the high-maintenance gals. Link to post Share on other sites
tiki Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by Woggle Big screen tvs have a use while expenseive handbags are no better than cheap ones. They both hold stuff. A plasma tv is clearly better than a 15 inch $100.00 cheapo tv. Put 2 handbags in front of me and I can't tell which one costs more. But some women feel that way about a TV, swear2ga. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by millefiori Maybe you should stop going after the high-maintenance gals. Those type of women actually turn me off. My ex wife was not high maintenance at all yet she still betrayed me. Link to post Share on other sites
millefiori Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by scratch If it's any consolation, you're one of the few people here with whom it's (usually) worth arguing. What? I'm a docile housewife, I never argue. Link to post Share on other sites
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