Political divide...

[Gloria25]

Just curious...

 

This election, in my family alone, has created a divide. I mean, we all get along, but there's serious upset, disappointment, etc. when Trump supporters state as much.

 

So now that the elections are over, do you see who someone you're involved with or potentially involved with's political affiliation and/or how he/she voted, an issue for you?

[alphamale]

to trump i have three words: BRING IT ON

[Larryville]

Lie or just don't discuss politics. I know many of my family friends and some I considered dating views differ than mine, I play it off because I'm not losing family or friends over freaking politics.

[dichotomy]

We have a big divide with my in laws. They have said things to my young daughter I dont appreciate, and we have had a few strong arguments. This time its particularly bad with Trump.

[Michelle ma Belle]

I'm a very proud Canadian and you'd be hard pressed to find a Canadian who hasn't looked at this election like the circus just came to town and not in a good way. We pretty much all agree that Trump is a joke so there isn't too much divide among us up here. If anything, it's brought us closer together.

 

 

The last 3-4 relationships I've had were with American men and all of them were liberals and strong democrats so there wasn't ever any divide to speak of between us either. Personally, I could never date anyone who saw TRUMP of all people as the best candidate to lead the most powerful nation on the planet. That alone would have been a deal breaker for me. Full stop.

 

Good luck America.

[Larryville]

I could never date anyone who saw TRUMP of all people as the best candidate

 

You see MMB that’s the thing, I’ve dated a number who have your mindset, the thing is I don’t care about anyone’s political view, I care about their knowledge and passion. I keep that to myself.

 

My political views differ from most of my co-workers, friends and family and my kids but few actually know that.

 

I know while many may disagree with me, few are as “informed” as I am on many political and social issues. Being a political junkie, writer is a pass time passion, so if someone who only passively follows politics by watching the evening news throws out a political vibe that is a little outside the scope who cares, if I value them and the relationship more than I do a political point of view.

 

Now if you have someone who is just a belligerent jackass, or some religious or social zealot, I will put them in their place. It’s about respect.

there are far more important things to dis a potential relationship over.

[thefooloftheyear]

 

Good luck America.

 

We don't really care, nor do we need "luck".....but thanks, I guess...*shrug*

 

 

As for any division? Not everyone agrees, but there is enough love and admiration in my family and those in my circle, that it would never get in the way of our friendship or family....We move on with our lives and that's that...

 

The rest can go about their lives, quite frankly....if they don't like it they can go cry in their beer or whatever beverage they prefer...Go see their therapist or kick the dog....I don't really care..

 

TFY

[Springsummer]

I am still in shock

 

HOW?

[Springsummer]

I'm a very proud Canadian and you'd be hard pressed to find a Canadian who hasn't looked at this election like the circus just came to town and not in a good way. We pretty much all agree that Trump is a joke so there isn't too much divide among us up here. If anything, it's brought us closer together.

 

 

The last 3-4 relationships I've had were with American men and all of them were liberals and strong democrats so there wasn't ever any divide to speak of between us either. Personally, I could never date anyone who saw TRUMP of all people as the best candidate to lead the most powerful nation on the planet. That alone would have been a deal breaker for me. Full stop.

 

Good luck America.

 

Looks like we Canadian are better people.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Springsummer

[Larryville]

You know all I’m gonna say is anyone who took the time to follow and actually read Wikileaks, Podesta Emails, DNC leaks thru this year about the DNC, Hillary (how Bernie Sanders was cheated by the DNC too) and many high end officials in the US government NOBODY should be shocked that Hillary lost.

 

Was not about Trump but the corruption in Washington. Hillary was simply the head of the snake. I’ve been studying and writing about politics for 30 years and nobody was as corrupt as Hillary. Not even close. So if you are gonna comment judge obtain a little knowledge first. Just sayin.

 

This is exactly why I don’t judge anyone on their political opinions because many are not likely on same page knowledge wise.

 

Relationships are more important than politics.

[GoreSP]

Honnestly, I don't even see support for Trump on my social media so, no divide on my end...

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[VeveCakes]

I'm a very proud Canadian and you'd be hard pressed to find a Canadian who hasn't looked at this election like the circus just came to town and not in a good way. We pretty much all agree that Trump is a joke so there isn't too much divide among us up here. If anything, it's brought us closer together.

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Not true at all...lots of Trump supporters just not anyone willing to post it on FB for fear of being ripped to shreds.

 

Not sure if Hillary supporters see the irony in the bullying.

[Michelle ma Belle]

You see MMB that’s the thing, I’ve dated a number who have your mindset, the thing is I don’t care about anyone’s political view, I care about their knowledge and passion. I keep that to myself.

 

My political views differ from most of my co-workers, friends and family and my kids but few actually know that.

 

I know while many may disagree with me, few are as “informed” as I am on many political and social issues. Being a political junkie, writer is a pass time passion, so if someone who only passively follows politics by watching the evening news throws out a political vibe that is a little outside the scope who cares, if I value them and the relationship more than I do a political point of view.

 

Now if you have someone who is just a belligerent jackass, or some religious or social zealot, I will put them in their place. It’s about respect.

there are far more important things to dis a potential relationship over.

 

You obviously don't know me or what I stand for despite having written countless posts on here trying to give some insight into who I am. I am nothing if not someone who is tolerant, respectful of other people's opinions, open minded and optimistic and prides herself on being someone who can rise above all the noise and nonsense in order to seek a common ground with people regardless of the differences. That is my calling card and anyone who knows me knows this is my truth.

 

So when I say that supporting Trump is a deal breaker with regards to a ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP, I don't say that lightly.

 

EVERYTHING that man stands for, especially as a woman, goes against every fiber of my being and is insulting not only to my intelligence but to my gender. I couldn't be with a man romantically who agreed with Trump's stand on some very hot button issues nor be with a man who dismisses Trump's comments and behavior as it relates to women and minorities. Is that so wrong? Seriously??

 

We all have deal breakers when it comes to relationships so why is my deal breaker somehow more offensive to you then any other? I'm sure you have a bushel full of them yourself.

 

You talk about Hilary fans not being fully informed yet every social media post and tweet and political analysis that's been raging on particularly in the last 24 hours are saying that the people who voted this man into power were indeed the uneducated, poor, angry voters.

 

You can make whatever argument you want about Hilary being corrupt (aren't all politicians corrupt for heaven's sake?) but that doesn't make Trump a better option given his own dirty rap sheet.

 

Peace.

[VeveCakes]

Is Hillary not just as bad a role model for women...standing by her man after he cheated on her in the oval office and then embarrassed her in front of the entire world. She has no respect for herself and no pride. She cared more about the power, money and fame than herself.

 

She should have kicked his ass to the curb at the beginning of this election, I bet a lot of women would have then maybe thought she was worth something.

[Michelle ma Belle]

Is Hillary not just as bad a role model for women...standing by her man after he cheated on her in the oval office and then embarrassed her in front of the entire world. She has no respect for herself and no pride. She cared more about the power, money and fame than herself.

 

She should have kicked his ass to the curb at the beginning of this election, I bet a lot of women would have then maybe thought she was worth something.

 

You're kidding right???

 

So you're going to SHAME a wife for staying with a cheating husband???

 

Granted it might not have been what you or I would have done but how does that make HER a horrible role model?

[VeveCakes]

Well everyone is tooting about Trump being a bad role model and I`m not denying that...I don`t care for either of them. Yeah, I will shame her because she did for political gain and power not because she loves her man.

 

I don`t think it`s a great role model to have your husband acting like a total sleeze as president and to stand by and accept that he has embarrassed you so. Would be different if it were a different situation.

 

She always has supported his cake eating...I think that makes her a terrible role model for women.

[SpiralOut]

 

I don`t think it`s a great role model to have your husband acting like a total sleeze as president and to stand by and accept that he has embarrassed you so. Would be different if it were a different situation.

 

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Do you think that Trump's wife should leave him? I know that she's not running in an election, but still. Do you think she should stand by him? I think that it would be pretty embarrassing to be married to someone who talks about women the way he does, and may have even cheated on her (if the allegations against him are true).

[eye of the storm]

My mother has told me I am going to hell and compared me to my mentally ill sister because I vote differently than she does. I do my best to respect people who vote/think/feel differently than I do. But I would like to have that returned. I think she finally figured out last night she crossed the line with me one to many times. I love her, I am not blocking her...but contact will be very restricted. And on my side this has nothing to do with the election. It has to do with her wanting complete obedience, which would be fine if I were a minor or living with her or dependent on her. But I am none of those.

[Larryville]

EVERYTHING that man stands for, especially as a woman, goes against every fiber of my being

 

Cool MMB, I’ve had this discussion with a few people this morning. A friend, who is gay argued with me about how Trump hates gay people, so when I forward the link to a letter basically spelling out how Hillary (her hero) actually is against gay people and gay marriage… silence.

 

"you have to have a public and a private position" wikileaks/podesta emails. So while you have a "opinion" of Trump (I don't give a damn about dude BTW) You can chronicle levels of government deceit never unveiled before.

 

So when people like yourself talk about tolerance I know it BS, just like when my family (we are of color) moved into a neighborhood of “tolerant” left wing types and let’s just say we had a rough few years. Was not until these people learned that people of color like my family were not going to tarnish their hood. I am hearing and reading from those like you all morning and the “tolerance” is staggering.

 

but admire the passion LOL!

 

Peace

[dreamingoftigers]

I'm a very proud Canadian and you'd be hard pressed to find a Canadian who hasn't looked at this election like the circus just came to town and not in a good way. We pretty much all agree that Trump is a joke so there isn't too much divide among us up here. If anything, it's brought us closer together.

 

 

The last 3-4 relationships I've had were with American men and all of them were liberals and strong democrats so there wasn't ever any divide to speak of between us either. Personally, I could never date anyone who saw TRUMP of all people as the best candidate to lead the most powerful nation on the planet. That alone would have been a deal breaker for me. Full stop.

 

Good luck America.

 

He reminds me so much of my father that it triggers childhood issues for me.

 

I mentally steeled myself for dealing with it until November. I hoped beyond hope they wouldn't elect him.

 

Four more years. And possibly eight.

 

I might need anti-anxiety meds. Tuning him out is almost impossible.

[Springsummer]

You know all I’m gonna say is anyone who took the time to follow and actually read Wikileaks, Podesta Emails, DNC leaks thru this year about the DNC, Hillary (how Bernie Sanders was cheated by the DNC too) and many high end officials in the US government NOBODY should be shocked that Hillary lost.

 

Was not about Trump but the corruption in Washington. Hillary was simply the head of the snake. I’ve been studying and writing about politics for 30 years and nobody was as corrupt as Hillary. Not even close. So if you are gonna comment judge obtain a little knowledge first. Just sayin.

 

This is exactly why I don’t judge anyone on their political opinions because many are not likely on same page knowledge wise.

 

Relationships are more important than politics.

 

well, that pale compares with racism and sexism.

 

She is simply the lesser of 2 evils.

[Michelle ma Belle]

Cool MMB, I’ve had this discussion with a few people this morning. A friend, who is gay argued with me about how Trump hates gay people, so when I forward the link to a letter basically spelling out how Hillary (her hero) actually is against gay people and gay marriage… silence.

 

"you have to have a public and a private position" wikileaks/podesta emails. So while you have a "opinion" of Trump (I don't give a damn about dude BTW) You can chronicle levels of government deceit never unveiled before.

 

So when people like yourself talk about tolerance I know it BS, just like when my family (we are of color) moved into a neighborhood of “tolerant” left wing types and let’s just say we had a rough few years. Was not until these people learned that people of color like my family were not going to tarnish their hood. I am hearing and reading from those like you all morning and the “tolerance” is staggering.

 

but admire the passion LOL!

 

Peace

 

Listen, I think we're comparing apples to oranges here.

 

First, I never stated that Hilary was my hero. I'm not entirely sure I really 'like' her but in terms of this election and who I think was the better candidate overall long term, "I'm with her" abso-f*cking-lutely.

 

Second, please don't question my tolerance or paint me with the same brushstroke as your neighbors from your childhood especially since I'm speaking specifically about romantic relationships.

 

And speaking of romantic relationship versus platonic ones, it IS different. Part of what makes for a happy and successful relationship is having core values in alignment.

 

If my partner chooses to squeeze the toothpaste tube in the middle rather than the middle, or if he prefers to hang the toilet paper under rather than over or likes to eat his salad before the meal as opposed to after like me, those are not battles I need to fight nor win. But if/when he believes in separation and divide and fuels hate and bigotry and supports the taking away of rights and degrading women, THAT is something totally different and not something a sane person can easily ignore or chalk up to just differences of opinions.

 

I have many friends who are much more conservative than I am and where we don't meet eye to eye on a great many things but we can still debate without having it end in a violent outburst and where we still respect each others opinions. I have no issues with people having an opinion about anything even if it's polar opposite to mine as long as they too are open to hearing others. However, when it comes to a romantic relationship, hot button issues are often a very different story that can make or break things.

 

Got a hard on for Trump and think he's the Messiah whose going to save your country? God bless. I certainly don't agree but you're entitled to your opinion and I respect that but that doesn't mean I have to date you too.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Michelle ma Belle

[Michelle ma Belle]

Well everyone is tooting about Trump being a bad role model and I`m not denying that...I don`t care for either of them. Yeah, I will shame her because she did for political gain and power not because she loves her man.

 

I don`t think it`s a great role model to have your husband acting like a total sleeze as president and to stand by and accept that he has embarrassed you so. Would be different if it were a different situation.

She always has supported his cake eating...I think that makes her a terrible role model for women.

 

So how do you see Melania Trump?

 

With all the sexual harassment reports piling in against Trump not to mention the degrading comments he's made about women and the abuse of his power and fame WHILST being married to her should make her just as unsavory, no?

 

By your thought process, she should leave her husband in order to claim good role model status for all women

[Springsummer]

So how do you see Melania Trump?

 

With all the sexual harassment reports piling in against Trump not to mention the degrading comments he's made about women and the abuse of his power and fame WHILST being married to her should make her just as unsavory, no?

 

By your thought process, she should leave her husband in order to claim good role model status for all women

 

A better question is why she even married him in the first place? a man her father's age? expect a gold digger to leave a man because of that?

[VeveCakes]

So how do you see Melania Trump?

 

With all the sexual harassment reports piling in against Trump not to mention the degrading comments he's made about women and the abuse of his power and fame WHILST being married to her should make her just as unsavory, no?

 

By your thought process, she should leave her husband in order to claim good role model status for all women

 

I don't know anything about her so I really don't have an opinion yet. But if Trump were to have his dick sucked by his intern, deny it, and then have to go to trial and have it dragged out in not just the American Public but the entire world and she just sits to the side and smiles....then YES, I would say she is a terrible role model also.

 

My point is not about other women....its about people shaming women who support Trump over Hillary because hes a pig apparently and a bad role model, when Hillary is just as bad (or worse).