Political divide...

[BlueIris]

Just curious...

 

This election, in my family alone, has created a divide. I mean, we all get along, but there's serious upset, disappointment, etc. when Trump supporters state as much.

 

So now that the elections are over, do you see who someone you're involved with or potentially involved with's political affiliation and/or how he/she voted, an issue for you?

 

Funny you should ask. I'm on a small dating website that sees no activity for the most part. I rarely get contacted, maybe once every few months. Two days ago someone contacted me apparently at least in part because of our shared political perspectives and our shared belief that those reflect personal values and priorities as well. Our first communication included the question, who are you voting for? Yep, very important to both of us.

 

So wish us luck. He's cute as all get out for a little icing on the cake.

[dichotomy]

Hardest thing I had to hear from my Mother in Law was "Trump LOVES everyone!".

 

I think Trump loves and cares about Trump.

 

Hate, anger and rage drove this man to office.

 

My daughters have to listen to a man who talks publicly about genitals, doing as he pleases with women, and degrading their appearance. His behavior is already encouraging kids and adults to follow his example. He will try to enact laws controlling women's bodies and endangering their health.

 

I think its one thing to have the old liberal vs conservative arguments about taxes, welfare, and even healthcare, but this is much much different this time.

[VeveCakes]

My daughters have to listen to a man who talks publicly about genitals, doing as he pleases with women, and degrading their appearance. His behavior is already encouraging kids and adults to follow his example. He will try to enact laws controlling women's bodies and endangering their health.

 

 

This is basically what it's like dating in this generation. I'm not surprised he won...lots of men out there just like him, he's just taking the fall for them all.

[BlueIris]

This is basically what it's like dating in this generation. I'm not surprised he won...lots of men out there just like him, he's just taking the fall for them all.

 

I don't think he's taking the fall. He won.

I think the message is that it is not important.

[VeveCakes]

I don't think he's taking the fall. He won.

I think the message is that it is not important.

 

The backlash...

[jen1447]

So now that the elections are over, do you see who someone you're involved with or potentially involved with's political affiliation and/or how he/she voted, an issue for you?

Not directly myself, but my mom got fighting w her sister about it all and they did some damage before I could put a stop to it. Shame that anyone thinks politics is worth blowing up genuine relationships over.

[preraph]

It would certainly be a dealbreaker for me if someone I was dating voted for Trump. Because if you like him, you can't possibly like me and vice versa.

[Shining One]

I have no ideological divides in my family (to my knowledge), but I will soon have a physical divide. Some extended family (cousins, aunts, and uncles) are moving back home. Those who are renting have already bought plane tickets.

[SammySammy]

No divide in my family.

 

If anything, this will bring us closer together and allow us to refocus our energies toward making a positive difference in our world.

[Methodical]

No divisions here. I can agree to disagree and still maintain a relationship. In reality, all candidates say and do deplorable things. Some are just better at covering their tracks . (Or not!)

[basil67]

Just curious...

 

This election, in my family alone, has created a divide. I mean, we all get along, but there's serious upset, disappointment, etc. when Trump supporters state as much.

 

So now that the elections are over, do you see who someone you're involved with or potentially involved with's political affiliation and/or how he/she voted, an issue for you?

 

Thing is, the way a person votes reflects their morals and values. And I cannot be friends with someone who has morals and values which I find repugnant.

 

I'm a greenie/leftie. While I do have moderate conservative friends, I could not be friends with someone who had far right attitudes because they way they vote reflects who they are.

[amaysngrace]

It would certainly be a dealbreaker for me if someone I was dating voted for Trump. Because if you like him, you can't possibly like me and vice versa.

 

I like you and I voted for Trump

[S_A]

It would certainly be a dealbreaker for me if someone I was dating voted for Trump. Because if you like him, you can't possibly like me and vice versa.

 

I would not date anyone that says they would not date anyone that voted for Hillary.

 

I also would not date anyone that says they would not date anyone that voted for Trump.

[Woggle]

Most of my in laws who are my only real family except my uncle vote for Hillary but my sister in law is a rabid Trump and while I laugh at how over the top she is it causes a lot of friction between her and my wife. They fight for reasons that are way beyond politics though.

[Gaeta]

I will not comment on Trump, I exhausted all my energy on that topic on LS political section. Just saying that lately with everything that is happening in the US, Europe, Syria, China, name it, I find myself so thankful I was born here in Canada.

 

That being said yes there are some political views that would be a deal breaker for me. Example here in Canada we have the separation issue coming up at each provincial election. I am against separating Quebec from the rest of Canada and I feel so strongly about this I would never be able to have a romantic relationship with a man voting and supporting a separation of Canada.

[dreamingoftigers]

I will not comment on Trump, I exhausted all my energy on that topic on LS political section. Just saying that lately with everything that is happening in the US, Europe, Syria, China, name it, I find myself so thankful I was born here in Canada.

 

That being said yes there are some political views that would be a deal breaker for me. Example here in Canada we have the separation issue coming up at each provincial election. I am against separating Quebec from the rest of Canada and I feel so strongly about this I would never be able to have a romantic relationship with a man voting and supporting a separation of Canada.

 

Erg. Is separation on the table again?

 

Ugh. They need to just. Stop. They lose so much economically every time they try it.

[Gaeta]

Erg. Is separation on the table again?

 

Ugh. They need to just. Stop. They lose so much economically every time they try it.

 

Something like 86% of Quebecker don't want to hear about it but the little percentage of those supporting it are a pain in the neck. They live in lala-land dreaming of founding a country but shutting their ears to the disastrous economical and social consequences it would have.

[Springsummer]

Erg. Is separation on the table again?

 

Ugh. They need to just. Stop. They lose so much economically every time they try it.

 

I think they just want to use it to gain more favors from the fed and the rest of Canada.

 

If separated, there is no sense for Canada to be bilingual. Francophone civil servants are hugely disproportionate represented in the fed. because of politic and language policy.

 

I don't see how they lose economically by just stirring things up...yes, if only separation is real, one of the reasons is stated above.

Edited November 10, 2016 by Springsummer

[T-16bullseyeWompRat]

I dont think I've ever been in a hateful argument regarding politics with any of my family or friends. Now I got one of those flat earthers for an uncle. What a strange man, but he is family. So we have arguments about freakin flat earth dummies and their stupidity. Those get heated. But I have to admire his conviction I guess.

 

I could date someone without the same political ideals. Hell I married a woman with different religious beliefs, no issue has ever come up from that. But I draw the line at flat earth folks. What a bunch on nutters, the lot of them.

[basil67]

I dont think I've ever been in a hateful argument regarding politics with any of my family or friends. Now I got one of those flat earthers for an uncle. What a strange man, but he is family. So we have arguments about freakin flat earth dummies and their stupidity. Those get heated. But I have to admire his conviction I guess.

 

I could date someone without the same political ideals. Hell I married a woman with different religious beliefs, no issue has ever come up from that. But I draw the line at flat earth folks. What a bunch on nutters, the lot of them.

 

Some of my family are stuck in the White Australia attitude. We generally manage to have respectful conversations, but there is a recurring discussion which they never have an answer for: When they complain about immigrants changing our way of life, I always point out that we white people were the first immigrants and that we forever changed the lives of the original inhabitants. Someone usually goes and gets a drink at this point.

[Cali408]

I have Canadian family. As a rule I DO NOT discuss politics with the Canadians..It's like speaking a foreign language if you're a Republican. It's fine, I don't take it personally, I just find it frustrating on both sides and not worth fighting over.

[surferchic]

Definitely agree that this political issue isn't worth fighting over or allowing "Division " amongst those we care about.

 

Don't succumb to the divisiveness to make people divide! In spite of Trump's "fake me out" speech, this really is the time to come together and not freak out over this joke.

 

"Keep calm and think."

[amaysngrace]

Definitely agree that this political issue isn't worth fighting over or allowing "Division " amongst those we care about.

 

Don't succumb to the divisiveness to make people divide! In spite of Trump's "fake me out" speech, this really is the time to come together and not freak out over this joke.

 

"Keep calm and think."

 

I agree that people need to get along. It may be difficult with half the country being an "emotional" wreck due to being wound up so tightly by their news feeds and the same seven "phrases played over and over again" but I think we should be willing to look past the "instability" in our friends and neighbors and try to work it out.

[Taramere]

Just curious...

 

This election, in my family alone, has created a divide. I mean, we all get along, but there's serious upset, disappointment, etc. when Trump supporters state as much.

 

So now that the elections are over, do you see who someone you're involved with or potentially involved with's political affiliation and/or how he/she voted, an issue for you?

 

I have a friend in the US who likes Trump. Yesterday morning I was feeling very sad and angry about the election results and wouldn't have been in the frame of mind to hear him hoorahing about the result, but by the time it got to evening I was over it (easy enough when you don't live there). I'd say that we're friends precisely because we argue so much. A good argument, that can be had without passive aggression and ill feeling creeping in, can be a lot of fun.

 

With my own family, I've never found it difficult to state an opposing view without it turning nasty. I mean, my dad could be pretty reactionary when he was younger...and he'd often tease me about my political perspective on things, but in a pretty normal older conservative v younger progressive sort of way. I don't have any family members who I would define as hateful in their views, or impossible to have a reasonable discussion with...so whatever other dysfunctions we struggle with, I wouldn't say that political conflict is among them. I've never ever felt the need to censor myself with close family. We're pretty free with our comments.

 

Outside of family, I tend to proceed more carefully. Sometimes I will hold my tongue purely because I know that sharing my thoughts and views would disappoint people and I don't think it's worth it. I've got one friend who is so far to the left that I don't think it's an exaggeration to say he's practically a communist. His political views irritate the hell out of me, and I think they're based on emotion rather than objective consideration of the pros and cons of particular positions...but he's also an incredibly kind person. The type who really would give a person in need his last fiver or the shirt off his back. So although I disagree with the extremity of his position, I know that it comes from the heart. I'll talk politics to a certain degree with him, but I tend to gauge it fairly carefully - and if things look likely to become too heated, I'll switch the subject.

 

They always say "don't talk politics and religion at the dinner table". I don't think these subjects need to be taboo, but I think it's important to know when it's time to agree to disagree and gently push for a change of subject.

[Daisy2013]

I don't have many heated political discussions as most people I associate with are like-minded. What I do say is that this election has brought out a ridiculousness I have never seen before. An embarrassing set of candidates, chosen by us. Says a lot about US citizens and not in a good way. It brought out the intolerable left, who accuse racism and all sorts of other things, yet they are the most intolerable group of the two. Burning stuff and rioting? C'mon. Trump has four years, we will see what can be done.