Political divide...

[dreamingoftigers]

maybe that's why it's cheaper to do business there now? I don't know...initially I thought it's a good idea to work there, coz the rent seems so much cheaper. oh, boy, then I found out they pay you much cheaper for the same type of job than the rest of big cities in Canada too.

 

Personally I just sick of seeing every job in Ottawa require bilingual. Maybe I should move down south and give room to the US people here. :rolleyes:In the US, the pay is much much higher even than in Toronto for the same job.

 

why move to cold Canada? is Trump alone worth it?

 

Come West. We still have the highest average paycheques in the country.

 

The recovery is happening too. Oil prices going up. Rebuilding Fort McMurray etc.

 

Plus the winters are much milder here in Calgary. You guys sure got hit last year.

[Marc878]

If all the actors and singers moved to Canada it would elevate the IQ level in both countries.

[Gaeta]

Ugh. Edmonton.

 

Ugh.

 

I get it. I was born here but my mother grew up mostly in Quebec City and my father is from Brockville. My mother had it tough growing up Anglo there, esoecially during the FLQ crisis.

 

 

OMG yes being anglophone here during the FLQ had to be very difficult! I can imagine the prejudice and the treatment they had to endure.

[Gaeta]

Maybe I should move down south and give room to the US people here. :rolleyes:In the US,

 

Then you'll need to speak Spanish :-)

 

I know someone that landed in Miami last week, couldn't have any instructions in English it was all Spanish that couldn't speak English.

[Springsummer]

Come West. We still have the highest average paycheques in the country.

 

The recovery is happening too. Oil prices going up. Rebuilding Fort McMurray etc.

 

Plus the winters are much milder here in Calgary. You guys sure got hit last year.

 

Really? didn't know AB has the highest paychecks. I thought the economy is busted?

 

I heard Calgary and/or Edmonton snows in September!

[Springsummer]

Then you'll need to speak Spanish :-)

 

I know someone that landed in Miami last week, couldn't have any instructions in English it was all Spanish that couldn't speak English.

 

Oh, man...My brain is not big enough for another language.

[dreamingoftigers]

If all the actors and singers moved to Canada it would elevate the IQ level in both countries.

 

So where is this ignorance coming from?

 

On a thread about healing political divides you share something rude like this?

 

I swear, at this rate America's chief exports will be ignorance and instability.

[Gloria25]

Well, today I got a tongue lashing from one of my gfs. I got so mad that I had to put down the phone. The viral and anger she has for Trump is just like the others, and quite frankly I've been at odds with her in other aspects besides politics.

 

I just said like a sentence of 'Well, what about Hillary....?' And, she literally went ballistic - yelling and stuff at me...Typical intolerance and unwillingness to have an open discussion that I'm seeing about the Left/Libs now a days.

 

So for me, while I wish I could say someone's political affiliations do not reflect their character - in her case it sure does. Her husband is a cheating jerk - who wastes her money, so I guess she is cool with Hillary...they're birds of a feather.

 

I guess it's time for me to make new friends (again)

[Woggle]

My sister in law and her husband might get a divorce because he voted for Hillary. She doesn't want to married to the kind of beta who would vote for her in her words.

[Springsummer]

So where is this ignorance coming from?

 

On a thread about healing political divides you share something rude like this?

 

I swear, at this rate America's chief exports will be ignorance and instability.

 

that's why Trump was elected.

[Springsummer]

My sister in law and her husband might get a divorce because he voted for Hillary. She doesn't want to married to the kind of beta who would vote for her in her words.

 

wow, that's serious. I think women who against Hillary are betas. so they actually fit each other. lol...just joking.

[Woggle]

wow, that's serious. I think women who against Hillary are betas. so they actually fit each other. lol...just joking.

 

Believe me she is not a Beta. She seems to enjoy chewing people out until they are almost in tears for sport.

[BlueIris]

Believe me she is not a Beta. She seems to enjoy chewing people out until they are almost in tears for sport.

 

Seems to me the problem is being concerned about beta and alpha. If that's the way she thinks and he doesn't I'd think that marriage wasn't going to make it anyway.

[Woggle]

Seems to me the problem is being concerned about beta and alpha. If that's the way she thinks and he doesn't I'd think that marriage wasn't going to make it anyway.

 

They have been married for a long time and have two kids and from what I hear they used to have a happy marriage but somewhere along the way she turned into some rightwinger and he didn't and she views him as not manly enough. She actually said she wants him to be more like Trump. I also think she is very resentful because their daughter has a better relationship with her father she resents my wife because she is closer to her aunt than her own mother. I guess that is what happens when you call your own daughter a libtard. I don't know how her and my wife are related.

[NuevoYorko]

I just said like a sentence of 'Well, what about Hillary....?' And, she literally went ballistic - yelling and stuff at me...Typical intolerance and unwillingness to have an open discussion that I'm seeing about the Left/Libs now a days.

If you would like to step back from contributing to the divide, you will probably need to stop referring to people as "Left/Libs" and try to have some respect for opinions different from yours.

 

I don't want to dump all people who voted for Trump, but at this point I don't know if I can ever look at any of them the same way as I once did. Even if I believed he offered some policy that would benefit me and the rest of the country, his stances on religious freedom, the environment, racism, gay rights, women's sovereignty over their own bodies and other issues are diametrically opposed to my core values. People who voted for Trump have really endangered the Earth and many rights and freedoms that have been hard won. I don't want people in my life who knowingly participated in that, but I do care for some people who did. I suppose I will just keep it superficial with them from now on rather than purge.

 

Like everyone, I feel that my values are, in a way sacred to me. I feel I need to keep a safe distance from people who want to destroy them.

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[Got it]

Then you'll need to speak Spanish :-)

 

I know someone that landed in Miami last week, couldn't have any instructions in English it was all Spanish that couldn't speak English.

 

Oh for goodness sake what BS. This is completely asinine and completely untrue.

[Springsummer]

Oh for goodness sake what BS. This is completely asinine and completely untrue.

 

It is possible that her friend went into a Spanish enclave in Miami. but we all know USA is officially uni-lingual.

 

French is asinine to me. No idea why the language needs to have gender, conjugation, etc...come on why complicate things? Don't think I will ever master it.

[Herbalist]

As far as I can tell after contemplating all of it for several years, all political ideologies look great on paper and sound great in theory, and yet they all have major weaknesses and can lead to disaster in the wrong hands. And the alternative can quickly become a nihilism where people simply disengage because they can't find an ideology that is truly foolproof, which leaves the people who try their best to figure out the most promising ideology and then push for it.

 

Because of all that I don't really care much about someone's preferred political ideology or lack thereof. I try to look deeper and see what their motives are and what the quality of their character is like, which requires listening them to explain why they promote a particular ideology. If I can infer that they believe their ideology will lead to better quality of life for more people, then I can at least infer that they are likely of a good nature. In which case I don't expect them to be 'right' so much as I care about their desire to be right (ethically). I also have more respect for people who are analytical and engage in critical thinking and constructive criticism in all directions, as opposed to mindless sycophants who champion any ideology, party or candidate.

 

So far my friends and family seem to be good people who are doing their best to wade through everything and make the best calls they can. There has been no racist or sexist or phobic talk from the Trump supporters, nor have I seen Hillary supporters advocating the murder/mutilation of third trimester infants, and so on. Basically all of the fear-mongering hype against both parties, I don't see these things in everyday regular people.

[Gaeta]

It is possible that her friend went into a Spanish enclave in Miami. but we all know USA is officially uni-lingual.

 

French is asinine to me. No idea why the language needs to have gender, conjugation, etc...come on why complicate things? Don't think I will ever master it.

 

 

Point 1: 38% of the US is Spanish and are mostly concentrated in the south. They predict within the next few years it will be up to 50% of population. I am Canadian but work for an American company and I do business to business. I speak daily to companies in southern States, when you call there many times their messages is first in Spanish and they answer in Spanish and some pharmacies don't have anyone speaking English. When I call the IRS their message is in Spanish first!!

 

Point 2: French is the official language of 40 countries, it's taught in every country in the world, it's the official language of UN, EU, Red Cross, Amnesty International, Doctors without borders.

 

There are 20 million words in the French language and 20,000 new ones each year. No one can master it not even us.

 

French is far from being asinine, it's a beautiful language and the second one the most spoken in the world after English. It's complicated because it's a very old language much older than English.

 

It's normal you won't master it just like it's normal I will never master English after speaking it for 30 years now. The people that are fully functional in both languages are those who learn them under 9 years old like my daughter. When she speaks English you can't tell she is from French culture.

[LurkerXX]

English being the 'official language,' well you did make me look, what with a couple of conservative resurgences since then. That was a debate topic way back in high school; although it is the primary language, there is still no designated official language(s) in the US.

[Satu]

This 'divide' is the best thing ever from the point of view of the political elite.

 

I'm sure that they enjoy a good laugh about it, as they sit in their mansions, enjoying a lifestyle that puts that of rockstars and Hollywood giants to shame.

 

 

Divide and Rule:

 

 

– Win by getting one’s opponents to fight among themselves.

 

– A way of keeping yourself in a position of power by making the people under you disagree with each other so that they are unable to join together and remove you from your position.

 

– The policy of maintaining control over one’s subordinates or opponents by encouraging dissent between them, thereby preventing them from uniting in opposition.

 

This idiomatic expression is a translation of the Latin maxim, Divide et impera (“divide and rule”), and began to appear in English about 1600 AD.

[Timshel]

What amazes me is that Trump fooled anyone into believing that he will follow through with any fleeting vomit that formed something that sounded like language from his mouth.

 

During his campaign, it was clear to me that he had no specific plan or ideology, was simply as transient as the moment he was in, I've met people like him. It wouldn't surprise me in the least....that he is the most surprised of all of us that he won. I bet he's asked Melania to pinch him at least a hundred times.

 

I agree with all the posters who have suggested that judging his presidency at this point is presumptive. I for one, have no clue what this dude really believes or will attempt to achieve. That's why I don't like him.

There isn't anything left to do but wait and see. Hope for the best and give him a chance. If we put merit and faith into the democratic process then it is our duty to do so.

 

As far as a divide from those who voted for him....we had sh*t choices. If I thought someone around me was a jerk and treated people in their lives badly then they were out looong before the election. These things don't suddenly pop up.

I think of Trump as the kind of guy that will go to extravagant lengths and say lot's of things to bed a woman (U.S.) What happens after he has his way? We shall see.

 

I know some unscrupulous people who voted Clinton and some for Trump. The thing about democracy is that it is more than a theoretical stance, you either respect the process or get up in a tower...out of the trenches and sing lalalala in a padded, cosy place where you can pretend that the world outside does not exist.

 

Dismissing people you hypothetically love over a vote says a lot, mostly, it's your way...thank you very much. Adversity is downright terrifying; don't want to have to defend what I believe in and when presented with an opportunity to build a bridge...just burn it down.

[Springsummer]

This 'divide' is the best thing ever from the point of view of the political elite.

 

I'm sure that they enjoy a good laugh about it, as they sit in their mansions, enjoying a lifestyle that puts that of rockstars and Hollywood giants to shame.

 

 

Divide and Rule:

 

 

– Win by getting one’s opponents to fight among themselves.

 

– A way of keeping yourself in a position of power by making the people under you disagree with each other so that they are unable to join together and remove you from your position.

 

– The policy of maintaining control over one’s subordinates or opponents by encouraging dissent between them, thereby preventing them from uniting in opposition.

 

This idiomatic expression is a translation of the Latin maxim, Divide et impera (“divide and rule”), and began to appear in English about 1600 AD.

 

Exactly.

 

There are 2 political parties, right. but it's not the lib vs con. It's actually elitists vs commoners, or have and haven't.

 

Trump or Clinton, they are actually pretty similar. they are elitists and they all serve the upper class.

 

Things are not going to fundamentally change.

[Woggle]

That's really sad. Did she take into account the military men who voted for her, too? There are a number of them out there.

 

I've already addressed my relationships in another thread.

 

Probably not but she is sort of training to become Ann Coulter JR or something. She said if they divorce she might move down south to get a real conservative man.

[Timshel]

Probably not but she is sort of training to become Ann Coulter JR or something. She said if they divorce she might move down south to get a real conservative man.

 

She need not move. Lot's of Yanks, including Ann Coulter are 'real conservative.'

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter