MrBojangles Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 "Cheaters lie a lot." "She is cheating on you." "Don't be so naive." "They have sex all the time." "Woman that comes home to you is not your real gf, it's her clone and the real one is having sex with that guy right now!" And much MORE BULL**** IN THIS THREAT!!!!! ARE YOU REALLY GONA LISTEN TO UGLY TROLLS IN THIS THREAD!?!? NOONE HERE HAVE EVER KNOWS YOU OR YOUR GF AND THE SITUATION YOU ARE NOW! NON OF THEM WANT TO TAKE RESPONSOBILITY OF YOUR FUTURE, BUT THEY WILL POST **** AND FORCE YOU TO DO THINGS YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO DO!!! YOU ALREADY HAVE A BEATIFUL WOMAN YOU WANT TO MARY, YOU HAVE KIDS!!! SAFE YOU MIND AND YOUR FAMILY - Never do things you want regret, trust your woman and make her trust in you! Coz it is a family! And NEVER EVER take seriously forums like this! I'm analyzed all of your posts and must say: You must feel like idiot right now, coz your woman DON'T HAVE AN AFFAIR AT ALL!! Your mind created this simulation coz you don't really trust her, and after all you did and spoke - SHE is no more trust in you! You are ruining your life, her life and yours oww children's life WITH NO REASON! STOP doing what you are doing! And yes, I am a professional psychologist who accidentally fell into this subject is looking for material for his social studies. And I'm sorry for the mistakes in text- English is not my native language. And now I appeal to all who have pushed this man with words that his girlfriend is 100% cheating on him - you have big problems with the psyche? coz you don't feel responsibility of your words, people like you can push others to suicide and then hide in the internet and then make in again and again! The door of my office is always open to such people. Serge Monastyrskiy, Poland, professor of psychology for 45 years. Who you callin' a "ugly troll" Willis??? It's really odd someone claiming english as a second language, whom also claims to be "a professional psychologist who accidentally fell into this subject", joins this forum, then starts out by bashing the opinions of other posting members... Link to post Share on other sites
Space Ritual Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 "Cheaters lie a lot." "She is cheating on you." "Don't be so naive." "They have sex all the time." "Woman that comes home to you is not your real gf, it's her clone and the real one is having sex with that guy right now!" And much MORE BULL**** IN THIS THREAT!!!!! ARE YOU REALLY GONA LISTEN TO UGLY TROLLS IN THIS THREAD!?!? NOONE HERE HAVE EVER KNOWS YOU OR YOUR GF AND THE SITUATION YOU ARE NOW! NON OF THEM WANT TO TAKE RESPONSOBILITY OF YOUR FUTURE, BUT THEY WILL POST **** AND FORCE YOU TO DO THINGS YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO DO!!! YOU ALREADY HAVE A BEATIFUL WOMAN YOU WANT TO MARY, YOU HAVE KIDS!!! SAFE YOU MIND AND YOUR FAMILY - Never do things you want regret, trust your woman and make her trust in you! Coz it is a family! And NEVER EVER take seriously forums like this! I'm analyzed all of your posts and must say: You must feel like idiot right now, coz your woman DON'T HAVE AN AFFAIR AT ALL!! Your mind created this simulation coz you don't really trust her, and after all you did and spoke - SHE is no more trust in you! You are ruining your life, her life and yours oww children's life WITH NO REASON! STOP doing what you are doing! And yes, I am a professional psychologist who accidentally fell into this subject is looking for material for his social studies. And I'm sorry for the mistakes in text- English is not my native language. And now I appeal to all who have pushed this man with words that his girlfriend is 100% cheating on him - you have big problems with the psyche? coz you don't feel responsibility of your words, people like you can push others to suicide and then hide in the internet and then make in again and again! The door of my office is always open to such people. Serge Monastyrskiy, Poland, professor of psychology for 45 years. Put down the Warka Strong and Golonka and sober up, Serge If you have been a Psychologist for nearly Five decades and felt the need to some in like a Tsunami and type all caps then you are your own worst patient. Link to post Share on other sites
Space Ritual Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 So you went home with some food and then? Flipped out, got them cornered without any clothes and no way to escape me. I went total psycho on em both I went to jail for 4 years.Would have been longer but I plead guilty for lesser time. I could have just walked out of my own house and dealt with it later. But I made a horrific choice. I can blame no one but myself for what I did. It is why I describe myself as the poster child for how not to react Guess that's what I get for bringing home Hardees as a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites
Poutrew Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 So many things wrong with this post. No offense, it's just inaccurate. Data retention laws vary from country to country and there none in the United States right now. The onus is on the carrier to decide what information they store and for how long. Then we get into the issue of SMS text messaging, which they actually can store as opposed to iMessage or Hangouts which they can't. I'm more familiar with iMessage, which uses end to end encryption. That means only device itself can decrypt the traffic so you can't log the data or read it in transit. Your only hope with these type of messages is to restore them from unallocated space (deleted items marked to be overwritten when that space is needed) or extracting them from some sort of backup. iOS 10 automatically turns on iCloud, so there's a possibility the messages will be in one of those backups. The same can be said for local iTunes backups if they sync with their computer. Most iPhone users are unaware they are backing up to iCloud. This is how that massive celebrity nude photos hack a while ago. The hackers found an exploit that allowed them to brute force iCloud password hash. Then they used a program to extract the pictures from those backups. Messages would be in those same backups. There is another way for her to 'recover' those messages - if she wants to. She can ask the OM to send her a copy of all the messages in his phone. If he truly worships her, and thinks the boyfriend is 'the luckiest man alive' to have her as a GF, the yes, he will have kept every single one of them. She doesn't have to tell him why she wants the texts - if he knows they will break up if he doesn't supply them, then he will probably do nothing, let it happen and risk having her hate his guts... but, if as I suspect , there is no way in *ell she wants the boyfriend to read those texts, then this is never going to happen... Link to post Share on other sites
Author crebel81 Posted December 26, 2016 Author Share Posted December 26, 2016 There is another way for her to 'recover' those messages - if she wants to. She can ask the OM to send her a copy of all the messages in his phone. If he truly worships her, and thinks the boyfriend is 'the luckiest man alive' to have her as a GF, the yes, he will have kept every single one of them. She doesn't have to tell him why she wants the texts - if he knows they will break up if he doesn't supply them, then he will probably do nothing, let it happen and risk having her hate his guts... but, if as I suspect , there is no way in *ell she wants the boyfriend to read those texts, then this is never going to happen... She said to me she will ask him to send on screen shots, even though he will think she is mad. I never suggested it, she did. So... Link to post Share on other sites
Space Ritual Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 She said to me she will ask him to send on screen shots, even though he will think she is mad. I never suggested it, she did. So... What? Oh come on man! A disclaimer about him thinking she is mad? So the hell what? She is trying to minimize her culpability in order to continue the affair and for you to be mollified temporarily so you will just shut up and or just absolve your fiance of any blame in this. Until she does something blatant again, which she will do, and it will probably be by the end of the week if not by the end of the day. Stop drawing lines in the sand that she will tango backwards across and dare you to draw another one. Crebel81, do you see that all of this has taken on the appearance of a Munich Summit Meeting deciding on the fate of the Czechs without them being in the room? Stop negotiating with her. You are going about this like you are the Sudetenland. Link to post Share on other sites
Try Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 She said to me she will ask him to send on screen shots, even though he will think she is mad. I never suggested it, she did. So... How is the other man sending you edited screen shots showing you anything useful? Instead have her request full copies of all of her text messages from her carrier. Research how this can be done, and draft the letter to them for her to sign. Only let her know about this when you ask her to sign the letter. Even if the carrier says to you that it cannot be done, draft the letter anyways as if it could, so that you can bluff her. When you ask her to sign the request letter to the carrier, she either will sign, or she will not sign, and you will then have your answer. Since she claimed that she was going to give you full screen shots of these messages from the other man, she should have no reason not to help you get these same messages directly from the carrier, unless of course she planned to have her other man edit these messages prior to sending them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bachdude Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I just read this entire thread and I think posters here have to be careful that they don't assume their past experiences with infidelity make them experts on your situation and your fiancé. And just to be clear, I am no stranger to infidelity. My first marriage ended because my wife had an affair. I'm not naive. I'm just not convinced as some posters are that she has slept with this guy. First, I find it interesting that she talks so openly about him. I would think that if she were having an affair with this guy, she would avoid talking so much about him to avoid raising any suspicion. It's just a piece of the puzzle that doesn't fit for me. Think about it, if you were doing the nasty with your coworker, would you want to flap your tongue about them to your SO? It doesn't fit for me. Having said this, I do think she has serious boundary issues with this guy and doesn't understand what is appropriate behavior for a woman who is engaged and has a child with you. And I think it is totally within your rights as her future husband and father of her child to expect she behave in such a way that sets clear boundaries with male friends. I wouldn't marry anyone who didn't understand this. We live in an age when this is all but lost to previous generations. In the land of the Andy Griffith show, a married man a woman seen together would be scandalous and get Aunt B on the phone immediately to gossip to her friends. I'm not saying we need to go back to that era, but for schiit's sake, when did it become okay for married coworkers to drink it up in hotel rooms leaving their spouses at home? It's total and complete bull schiit if you ask me. Because she is covering up aspects of the relationship she had with this guy, at a certain level she understands that it is inappropriate. OP, there is a balance somewhere between our residence psychologist and the posters who are so sure she cheated. But one thing is for sure, and no reasonable person can doubt it; she has serious boundary issues and is not acting like a future wife and mother. She is immature. Personally, I would postpone the wedding until this gets worked out, at the very least. She needs to feel that her actions are putting the relationship in peril. You didn't ruin Christmas, her inappropriate behavior, lying by omission, and hiding ruined Christmas. Best of luck, bro. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BluesPower Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 bachdude - I hear you but, you know, I just reread through Drone17's thread. Hate to say it but I was 100% correct from the first post, I wish I had not been because it was a bad one. Of course I am perfectly willing to apologize if I turn out to be wrong. Unfortunately, this season I am batting 1000. So we will see. This poor OP is just going to be so hurt. I just hate seeing people go through this stuff. I guess we will see in the long run. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
bachdude Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) bachdude - I hear you but, you know, I just reread through Drone17's thread. Hate to say it but I was 100% correct from the first post, I wish I had not been because it was a bad one. Of course I am perfectly willing to apologize if I turn out to be wrong. Unfortunately, this season I am batting 1000. So we will see. This poor OP is just going to be so hurt. I just hate seeing people go through this stuff. I guess we will see in the long run. I totally get where you're comin from. One thing we agree on though, he needs to at least put on the breaks regarding the wedding. With both of our experiences I know you'd agree with me, that there's no way I'd walk the aisle and make kissing legal with anyone that doesn't instill the utmost confidence and trust in me that she will walk the straight and narrow. And the OP's fiance, I'm sorry to say OP, wouldn't qualify. Edited December 27, 2016 by bachdude 1 Link to post Share on other sites
redbaron007 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Get her to take a polygraph and get done with it already....no need to second- and third- guess this one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author crebel81 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 I just read this entire thread and I think posters here have to be careful that they don't assume their past experiences with infidelity make them experts on your situation and your fiancé. And just to be clear, I am no stranger to infidelity. My first marriage ended because my wife had an affair. I'm not naive. I'm just not convinced as some posters are that she has slept with this guy. First, I find it interesting that she talks so openly about him. I would think that if she were having an affair with this guy, she would avoid talking so much about him to avoid raising any suspicion. It's just a piece of the puzzle that doesn't fit for me. Think about it, if you were doing the nasty with your coworker, would you want to flap your tongue about them to your SO? It doesn't fit for me. Having said this, I do think she has serious boundary issues with this guy and doesn't understand what is appropriate behavior for a woman who is engaged and has a child with you. And I think it is totally within your rights as her future husband and father of her child to expect she behave in such a way that sets clear boundaries with male friends. I wouldn't marry anyone who didn't understand this. We live in an age when this is all but lost to previous generations. In the land of the Andy Griffith show, a married man a woman seen together would be scandalous and get Aunt B on the phone immediately to gossip to her friends. I'm not saying we need to go back to that era, but for schiit's sake, when did it become okay for married coworkers to drink it up in hotel rooms leaving their spouses at home? It's total and complete bull schiit if you ask me. Because she is covering up aspects of the relationship she had with this guy, at a certain level she understands that it is inappropriate. OP, there is a balance somewhere between our residence psychologist and the posters who are so sure she cheated. But one thing is for sure, and no reasonable person can doubt it; she has serious boundary issues and is not acting like a future wife and mother. She is immature. Personally, I would postpone the wedding until this gets worked out, at the very least. She needs to feel that her actions are putting the relationship in peril. You didn't ruin Christmas, her inappropriate behavior, lying by omission, and hiding ruined Christmas. Best of luck, bro. Thanks for your 2 cents. I have not told her yet, but no way in hell am I marrying her if she doesn't understand at the very least that their relationship is inappropriate. She thinks all is well now again but when she went to work yesterday I couldn't help shaken that same old feeling...maybe she says all the right things, but she has yet to take action and put boundaries into place. As a side note, this guy no longer works with her. He has been out of work for the past 9 months with a work related injury and isn't expected to return. Blue - I know you are convinced it's physical. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I may never know the truth...but if I even so much as see any communication between them on any level, that's it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lolablue17 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I have not told her yet, but no way in hell am I marrying her if she doesn't understand at the very least that their relationship is inappropriate. She thinks all is well now again but when she went to work yesterday I couldn't help shaken that same old feeling...maybe she says all the right things, but she has yet to take action and put boundaries into place. I just advice you in a matter of wording... I think she should cut him not because she must think that it is inappropriate in her eyes, but because it's inappropriate to you, and because she loves you and wants to make you happy. The difference is - the first is a duty (She MUST understand that _____) and the second is her own will (She WANTS to ____ because she loves you). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MrBojangles Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I'm just not convinced as some posters are that she has slept with this guy. First, I find it interesting that she talks so openly about him. I would think that if she were having an affair with this guy, she would avoid talking so much about him to avoid raising any suspicion. It's just a piece of the puzzle that doesn't fit for me. Think about it, if you were doing the nasty with your coworker, would you want to flap your tongue about them to your SO? It doesn't fit for me. bachdude I agree with you in large part, because it does not make sense why she would openly talk about the OM with OP. But I had a GF a many years ago, that came home and started going on and on about this new guy at work, about how nice he was blah blah blah. I was never suspicious about her being unfaithful to me, until she supposedly went out with friends after work one night, and did not get home until about 4AM. It turns out that she actually went home with this guy after work that night and screwed him multiple times, then had him to drop her off at my place. Despite not learning that she was cheating until about 2 weeks after the coming home at 4am incident, she just would not shut-up about this guy, and still openly talked about him to me. I finally confronted her after being tipped off by a friend of hers, and she finally confessed. It turns out that my exGF had been servicing this guy in his car in the parking lot at work, for about a month before DDay. Yet she talked about him the entire time openly around me. My belief all these years later is that some cheaters are so narcissistic, that they just have to brag about about their APs', even if it's to their own betrayed SOs'! Crebel81- A big red flag for me in your story is them using WhatsApp to communicate. WhatsApp does not leave paper trail of text messages that can be retrieved from the phone carrier. What reason would they need to use this app to communicate unless they are trying to hide something? I use WhatsApp to communicate with friends in Canada, Europe, and Australia toll free from the U.S.. If your GF and the OM are in the same city, it does not make sense as to why they would use WhatApp to talk or text... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
road Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I just read this entire thread and I think posters here have to be careful that they don't assume their past experiences with infidelity make them experts on your situation and your fiancé. And just to be clear, I am no stranger to infidelity. My first marriage ended because my wife had an affair. I'm not naive. I'm just not convinced as some posters are that she has slept with this guy. First, I find it interesting that she talks so openly about him. I would think that if she were having an affair with this guy, she would avoid talking so much about him to avoid raising any suspicion. It's just a piece of the puzzle that doesn't fit for me. Think about it, if you were doing the nasty with your coworker, would you want to flap your tongue about them to your SO? It doesn't fit for me. Having said this, I do think she has serious boundary issues with this guy and doesn't understand what is appropriate behavior for a woman who is engaged and has a child with you. And I think it is totally within your rights as her future husband and father of her child to expect she behave in such a way that sets clear boundaries with male friends. I wouldn't marry anyone who didn't understand this. We live in an age when this is all but lost to previous generations. In the land of the Andy Griffith show, a married man a woman seen together would be scandalous and get Aunt B on the phone immediately to gossip to her friends. I'm not saying we need to go back to that era, but for schiit's sake, when did it become okay for married coworkers to drink it up in hotel rooms leaving their spouses at home? It's total and complete bull schiit if you ask me. Because she is covering up aspects of the relationship she had with this guy, at a certain level she understands that it is inappropriate. OP, there is a balance somewhere between our residence psychologist and the posters who are so sure she cheated. But one thing is for sure, and no reasonable person can doubt it; she has serious boundary issues and is not acting like a future wife and mother. She is immature. Personally, I would postpone the wedding until this gets worked out, at the very least. She needs to feel that her actions are putting the relationship in peril. You didn't ruin Christmas, her inappropriate behavior, lying by omission, and hiding ruined Christmas. Best of luck, bro. Standard play from the WW playbook. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author crebel81 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 bachdude I agree with you in large part, because it does not make sense why she would openly talk about the OM with OP. But I had a GF a many years ago, that came home and started going on and on about this new guy at work, about how nice he was blah blah blah. I was never suspicious about her being unfaithful to me, until she supposedly went out with friends after work one night, and did not get home until about 4AM. It turns out that she actually went home with this guy after work that night and screwed him multiple times, then had him to drop her off at my place. Despite not learning that she was cheating until about 2 weeks after the coming home at 4am incident, she just would not shut-up about this guy, and still openly talked about him to me. I finally confronted her after being tipped off by a friend of hers, and she finally confessed. It turns out that my exGF had been servicing this guy in his car in the parking lot at work, for about a month before DDay. Yet she talked about him the entire time openly around me. My belief all these years later is that some cheaters are so narcissistic, that they just have to brag about about their APs', even if it's to their own betrayed SOs'! Crebel81- A big red flag for me in your story is them using WhatsApp to communicate. WhatsApp does not leave paper trail of text messages that can be retrieved from the phone carrier. What reason would they need to use this app to communicate unless they are trying to hide something? I use WhatsApp to communicate with friends in Canada, Europe, and Australia toll free from the U.S.. If your GF and the OM are in the same city, it does not make sense as to why they would use WhatApp to talk or text... Thanks for sharing your story and giving me your take on all this. In relation to how they text, they use Viber. She uses this or whatsapp to message her friends. So do I. Most of my friends do. Must be an Irish thing! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CobraX Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Thanks for sharing your story and giving me your take on all this. In relation to how they text, they use Viber. She uses this or whatsapp to message her friends. So do I. Most of my friends do. Must be an Irish thing! I use Viber for chatting with my GF. It has cute emojis and doesn't cost text messages. I don't think this is proof of anything. CRebel81, I think you should be laying low at this point. Monitor the situation but make her feel like its water under the bridge. I think this would also be a good time for you to focus on self improvement. Spend some time at the gym. Read some books on how to handle affairs. Link to post Share on other sites
Author crebel81 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 I use Viber for chatting with my GF. It has cute emojis and doesn't cost text messages. I don't think this is proof of anything. CRebel81, I think you should be laying low at this point. Monitor the situation but make her feel like its water under the bridge. I think this would also be a good time for you to focus on self improvement. Spend some time at the gym. Read some books on how to handle affairs. Cobra, your words of wisdom have proved very helpful to me so far. I wish I had the time for self improvement. We have 2 kids, I work long hours and I am also studying for a masters, unless you could consider the latter self improvement. I shall lay low. Link to post Share on other sites
Space Ritual Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 .but if I even so much as see any communication between them on any level, that's it! You mean "that's it until I catch her again"..... You already crossed the Rubicon with her a long time ago. To her, your threats are nothing short of completely idle. You are in the Post Graduate program? I hope you figure out someday that Book Smart and Street Stupid is no way to go through life. I realized it was pointless to attempt to convince you to get out of your own fog awhile back. but I figured since you made the effort of coming back I at least owed you an effort to try. I admit I was very harsh and I intended to be so because it seemed like it would be the only way it could get through your head what you were subjecting yourself to. I am a pretty harsh person by nature,but the Force is strong with those Kryptonite blinders on each side of your face, young man. I was 100 percent wrong. The fact of the matter is regardless of whether any of us are harsh, or put on the soft shoe, you in fact are just not going to get it until you let this woman trample the last ounce of dignity you have out of you heart. It would not matter if we were as bright as sunshine and sweet as sugar with you. You would simply agree with us and do the exact opposite and come back the next day and wonder why it didn't work out. This is nearing a conclusion for you in one way or another. I doubt you are going to like how it ends because it's not going to be anywhere near what you envision it to be, but you'll just have to learn that for yourself. This thread should be an appendix in The Cheaters Handbook. I'm very sorry for what you are about to discover. Be well and good luck. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lolablue17 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Many times people discover that their partner lied to them, only after they are extremely invested in them, like being married or have children with them. But I think that you can detect liars much earlier. You can do it by watching how do they behave with friends or family. For example, if she has a female friend that wants to visit this afternoon, and she has no mood for it today... Does she say to her friend on the phone "I'm not in the mood today"? or does she say "O'h sorry, I have other plans today i'm going to XXX"? One is true, and the other is a (small) lie. I believe that if someone uses to regulary lie even tiny lies, he\she is a great candidate to lie also about major things. But if she generally tells you the unpleasant truth about things that make her uncomfortable, this is a good sign that she consider honesty as high priority for her. These primary early signs can help everyone to filter liars out in the early stage of the relationship. (Yes I know, easier said than done). Edited December 27, 2016 by lolablue17 Link to post Share on other sites
Try Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 As a side note, this guy no longer works with her. He has been out of work for the past 9 months with a work related injury and isn't expected to return. The fact that the other man (OM) has not worked at the company in many months, is not expected to ever return, and is on long term disability with a claim against the company, makes her communications and driving up with him not something she did because it would be work helpful. In fact because of the claim against the company, her public close relationship with him could be hurtful to her career at her company if they feel that the OM is taking advantage of them. Thus she has a close relationship with this OM despite and not because of her career. Yet another red flag. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author crebel81 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 The fact that the other man (OM) has not worked at the company in many months, is not expected to ever return, and is on long term disability with a claim against the company, makes her communications and driving up with him not something she did because it would be work helpful. In fact because of the claim against the company, her public close relationship with him could be hurtful to her career at her company if they feel that the OM is taking advantage of them. Thus she has a close relationship with this OM despite and not because of her career. Yet another red flag. She works in law enforcement but your belief is correct. Link to post Share on other sites
AmandaDiane Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I think you should confront her (in a nice way) just tell her that you are concerned about that relationship and ask her to think about how she would feel if it was the other way around. Sometimes that works! All the best! I hope everything turns out good for you guys! Good luck! Link to post Share on other sites
McRex Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 This situation: - Honey, you have an affair with that guy. And I don't belive you. And I don't belive profesional psylogyst ( who can prove it with many articles and meet in real life ). Some guy on cheating forum sayd me you are a slut and I will belive only him. My next article on conference will be about materials from this forum. So many true proffessors can lought about all what here was sayd by BlueBalls and others. Thanks for the material for my work. Link to post Share on other sites
Hopefuleddie Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Sorry that this is happening to you. I would advise you have a talk with your fiancee about what you think and how you feel about the her relationship with this colleague; It seems her female co-worker you spoke about might be right about their relationship (i.e. they’re just friends) and it seems she is not trying to cheat on you; I say this because, you said she told you, among other things, what happened on the trip. If she is aware of your dislike of the whole situation and is intentionally doing something, she would have hid more of it from you then she is doing now. She may be innocently doing it, however as you mentioned, and as have been mentioned by others who’ve responded to this post, this can easily spiral down into something more than bargained for. I pray she is willing to listen to your advice and pull away from this unhealthy relationship with her colleague. I don't know if you a man of Faith, but I am, and if I was in your shoes I would pray that God will open their eyes to see what's going on before she falls deep into something she would regret later. I pray everything goes well and your relationship becomes progresses into a healthy marriage. Link to post Share on other sites
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