megabit15 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Well, in all honesty, I don't think I would find someone like that attractive and the reasons have much more to do with the attitudes of people with those looks rather than the looks themselves. In my experience, women who look like that tend to be high maintenance, demanding, arrogant, self-centered, and not 'real.' They seem to have an air of entitlement which is highly offensive. All turnoffs. I don't find male or female 10's attractive either, which is why I understand your objections to the rating system to begin with. I simply provided it as a frame of reference since no one else was. Can't discuss something without defining it first, right? Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Well, in all honesty, I don't think I would find someone like that attractive and the reasons have much more to do with the attitudes of people with those looks rather than the looks themselves. Yes, but you're not one of these guys. In my experience, women who look like that tend to be high maintenance, demanding, arrogant, self-centered, and not 'real.' They seem to have an air of entitlement which is highly offensive. All turnoffs. That's why they are so attractive for insecure people. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Touche! I'm outta here... have a great weekend. Will be back on Monday. This is an interesting discussion! Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 THIS is why I think this whole 'rating' concept is just absolute crapola. I'm guessing you're a "2" Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 In my experience, women who look like that tend to be high maintenance, demanding, arrogant, self-centered, and not 'real.' They seem to have an air of entitlement which is highly offensive. All turnoffs. Well, you're right - it is a question of attitude. But you know, I've dated a couple of 10s in recent history and they were very sweet, humble and giving. Beauty is like everything else - there are those who use it responsibly and those who don't. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I'm guessing you're a "2" Based on what? Inquiring minds really wanna know! Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Based on what? Inquiring minds really wanna know! He said he was guessing.. But I'll bet based on the fact that nomally the one who complains about the smell of a fart the loudest is the one who really farted.. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Another generalization... haven't we all heard this before? This is silly... just like all aspects of 'modern-day' dating and relating. I am numberless! Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Another generalization... haven't we all heard this before? This is silly... just like all aspects of 'modern-day' dating and relating. I am numberless! It's alway's been my experience that sometimes generalizations fit the best Sorry Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 This is silly... just like all aspects of 'modern-day' dating and relating. People tend not to reject things that are working for them... Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 *sigh* The point is that it does not matter to me whether someone sees me as a "2" or a "6" or a "10." Or even a zero. This is about self-esteem. If you have high self-esteem then what other people think of you - whether it's looks, personality, etc. - REALLY doesn't matter. There are people - like it or not - who are not affected by society's perceptions of them ESPECIALLY if those perceptions are based on so-called 'standards' propagated by the prevailing popular culture. Honestly, and this is just my opinion, I believe most people go through their daily lives not really caring what 'number' they are. They have more important issues in their lives. Most of them are probably also secure enough with themselves to know that it doesn't matter. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 People tend not to reject things that are working for them... In my particular situation, that is a correct statement. I have rejected *the game* that dating has become since I do not care for *the rules* that are involved in it. I have the option of not playing if the rules are not right for me. I have NOT rejected being in a loving and committed relationship with a good woman since I am currently in one. Link to post Share on other sites
megabit15 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 You guys are so funny From numberless to farting to using looks responsibly. I love it. To some people, looks do matter - but it's only one aspect of what they're looking for. Like, being able to hold a conversation, showing consideration and respect, having good sex, being able to support oneself, honesty and openess, someone to enjoy doing things with, etc. These are all valid needs, right? What's wrong with the need to consider a partner attractive enough to want to have sex with him/her? I really don't see why that bothers some people. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 You guys are so funny From numberless to farting to using looks responsibly. I love it. To some people, looks do matter - but it's only one aspect of what they're looking for. Like, being able to hold a conversation, showing consideration and respect, having good sex, being able to support oneself, honesty and openess, someone to enjoy doing things with, etc. These are all valid needs, right? What's wrong with the need to consider a partner attractive enough to want to have sex with him/her? I really don't see why that bothers some people. It's really not that complicated. Of all of those things which, in your opinion, will last the longest? After you have figured that out here's something else to consider: Those qualities that endure the most are the qualities that mean the most in a relationship. You mentioned 'sex' twice in your post. I take it that you seem to place a higher priority on that. Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 You mentioned 'sex' twice in your post. I take it that you seem to place a higher priority on that. Do I detect something else that gets a low priority, because it isn't working for you? Link to post Share on other sites
megabit15 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 It's really not that complicated. Of all of those things which, in your opinion, will last the longest? After you have figured that out here's something else to consider: Those qualities that endure the most are the qualities that mean the most in a relationship. You mentioned 'sex' twice in your post. I take it that you seem to place a higher priority on that. I recognize that sex is a high priority need for many men, but to me, while it is important, but isn't the highest priority. Probably not in the top five. But because it is not the highest priority for me, does not mean it would not be for someone else. Having said that, if it is a high priority for my partner, I'd like it to at least be satisfying! So yes, if it is important to my partner, and one of his more urgent needs, I do place importance on it. It is important to meet my partners highest priority needs as well as he meet my highest priority needs. Does that make sense? Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Oh, it's working, no problems there. I appreciate your concern though. Seriously (this may be a bit too difficult for you so I'll speak slowly) the... things... that... matter... the... most... in... a... relationship... are... the... things... that... will... last... the... longest. Generally speaking, looks... and... sex... do... not... outlast... intangible... qualities. I hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Seriously (this may be a bit too difficult for you so I'll speak slowly) the... things... that... matter... the... most... in... a... relationship... are... the... things... that... will... last... the... longest. Generally speaking, looks... and... sex... do... not... outlast... intangible... qualities. I hope this helps. Sure. So you're saying that, with you, the sex doesn't last? Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 So yes, if it is important to my partner, and one of his more urgent needs, I do place importance on it. It is important to meet my partners highest priority needs as well as he meet my highest priority needs. Does that make sense? Lots of sense. I'm remembering why you're one of my favourite LSers Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 *shrink*, *shrink*... I'm not mentioning names and I'm not looking at anybody... Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Sex may or may not last into old age. There are no guarantees. Same with looks. The intangibles have a much better probability of lasting well into old age, OTOH. Next? Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 *shrink*, *shrink*... I'm not mentioning names and I'm not looking at anybody... Go on - you know you want to Link to post Share on other sites
megabit15 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Sure. So you're saying that, with you, the sex doesn't last? Honey, if he doesn't meet my needs for honesty, affection, communication, and taking care of his appearance, the sex is guaranteed not to last! And you're one of my fav LSers too. Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Go on - you know you want to I'm a very discreet person. Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I'm a very discreet person. Well, that's probably for the best Link to post Share on other sites
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