palmsand Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) I'm spending all of June in Taiwan with a buddy. I have been talking with women there on tinder for a while and always get stumped when they ask why I'm coming. Of course, I can say the amazing food, second-tallest building in the world, exotic jungle, etc. But they always seem skeptical. Honestly, meeting women is part of the reason. Also, why not go to Taiwan? It's modern, safe, inexpensive, and beautiful. It's even hard to explain here. An adventure above all else (never been to asia). Is it common knowledge that single guys mostly go to Asia, or Taiwan specifically to meet women? What do I tell women when they ask why I'm coming? A related question - these women seem to get extremely attached, very fast. I just want to make sure they don't have some crazy idea like we are getting married and moving back to the US or something. Do I need to actively preempt these ideas? Edited May 31, 2017 by palmsand
preraph Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Just don't sign any papers or nod to anything you can't understand. Learn to say "no" in the native language, and keep the same standards you'd have where you come from and don't go mucking about in things you know nothing about. Edited May 31, 2017 by preraph
CptInsano Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 I think you will be in way over your head if you have to ask these questions in this forum. Please be aware of the cultural differences and act accordingly. Also be aware of how you will be perceived abroad.
Author palmsand Posted May 31, 2017 Author Posted May 31, 2017 That's basically why I'm asking, so I'm not going in totally clueless.
CptInsano Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 I'm spending all of June in Taiwan with a buddy. I have been talking with women there on tinder for a while and always get stumped when they ask why I'm coming. Of course, I can say the amazing food, second-tallest building in the world, exotic jungle, etc. But they always seem skeptical. They are as a rule of thumb well-educated and not exactly clueless. Yes, of course they are skeptical. Honestly, meeting women is part of the reason. Also, why not go to Taiwan? It's modern, safe, inexpensive, and beautiful. I certainly wouldn't mind going, but it wouldn't be my first choice. But it's certainly not a common tourist destination in many parts of the world. It's even hard to explain here. An adventure above all else (never been to asia). Is it common knowledge that single guys mostly go to Asia, or Taiwan specifically to meet women? What do I tell women when they ask why I'm coming? Yes, and that raises the question of what exactly you are looking for. A related question - these women seem to get extremely attached, very fast. I just want to make sure they don't have some crazy idea like we are getting married and moving back to the US or something. Do I need to actively preempt these ideas? Okay, what about getting married and moving back to the US would be crazy? Maybe not immediately, but I would certainly assume that they have long-term plans. Talking about crazy, I know exactly one woman from Taiwan. She flew halfway around the world to see me after we chatted for two weeks on an internet forum related to some research I was doing at that time. But that being said, I know plenty of women from mainland China, and all of them were mainly interested in long-term relationships and marriage.
Author palmsand Posted June 1, 2017 Author Posted June 1, 2017 Perhaps the biggest reason we chose Taiwan is because my buddy has a friend from there and he is renting us his apartment in Taipei for cheap. But just being cheap probably makes us look bad to the locals. That sounds a lot like the women I've been talking to. She wants to move here eventually and constantly talks about seeing and doing things here. Wants me to take her to Disneyland for example. But no solid plans so I hope she knows that none of this will(probably) ever happen. I mean, I haven't even met her yet. I am even more excited about Taiwan specifically because it's not a big tourist destination. I get the feeling that it's very pure and original and not tainted by tourist-centered commercialism, for example. Just off the beaten path if you will.
Els Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 I'm spending all of June in Taiwan with a buddy. I have been talking with women there on tinder for a while and always get stumped when they ask why I'm coming. Of course, I can say the amazing food, second-tallest building in the world, exotic jungle, etc. But they always seem skeptical. Honestly, meeting women is part of the reason. Also, why not go to Taiwan? It's modern, safe, inexpensive, and beautiful. It's even hard to explain here. An adventure above all else (never been to asia). Is it common knowledge that single guys mostly go to Asia, or Taiwan specifically to meet women? What do I tell women when they ask why I'm coming? I don't see anything so very out of the norm about traveling to Taiwan, and I'm not sure why anyone would assume you're doing it to meet women (unless you are). Personally it wouldn't be my #1 destination in Asia, but it's still beautiful in its own right. A related question - these women seem to get extremely attached, very fast. I just want to make sure they don't have some crazy idea like we are getting married and moving back to the US or something. Do I need to actively preempt these ideas? Chinese culture (which most Taiwanese are descended from, unless you're dating an Aborigine or a person of another race) typically moves extremely slow where dating is concerned. We're talking 'a few months before the first kiss' slow. No decent Taiwanese girl would WANT to marry you and move to the US with you after only having known you for a month. The girls who are unnaturally eager or who move extremely fast have ulterior motives. It's up to you if that's what you want as well.
CptInsano Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 [...] That sounds a lot like the women I've been talking to. She wants to move here eventually and constantly talks about seeing and doing things here. Wants me to take her to Disneyland for example. But no solid plans so I hope she knows that none of this will(probably) ever happen. I mean, I haven't even met her yet. I wouldn't assume that. In my example she stopped by and I gave her a one-week tour of my home state. But that was pretty much it. I also had no romantic interest in her. My mother is having a visitor from Japan next week. They had only met briefly once before in an airport lounge. Be careful, these women may take things literally. I am even more excited about Taiwan specifically because it's not a big tourist destination. I get the feeling that it's very pure and original and not tainted by tourist-centered commercialism, for example. Just off the beaten path if you will. That may be true. It's also populous enough that tourist wouldn't matter that much. Elswyth's comment is also spot-on in the sense that attitudes towards courtship are different, and casual dating may simply not exist. 1
Author palmsand Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 Taiwan is great so far. Except my buddy is bringing women back to the apartment and I met the women that seemed really attached and she just wants to be friends. So now I'm just failing with women except on the other side of the world for a rather large expense. Wonderful.
elaine567 Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Taiwan is great so far. Except my buddy is bringing women back to the apartment and I met the women that seemed really attached and she just wants to be friends. So now I'm just failing with women except on the other side of the world for a rather large expense. Wonderful. That's the biggest problem with thinking if you change location that things will somehow be different. Unfortunately we take ourselves with us and we often find we still have the same issues no matter where we go.
Els Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Taiwan is great so far. Except my buddy is bringing women back to the apartment and I met the women that seemed really attached and she just wants to be friends. So now I'm just failing with women except on the other side of the world for a rather large expense. Wonderful. The benefits of travel are plenty and if you focus on how the new experiences can enrich your own life, you'll find that it is worth it. Obviously if you are going to travel for the sole goal of hooking up with women, you're going to find that it's a waste of money. Especially when we're talking about traveling to a rather more conservative culture. 1
JuneJulySeptember Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Chinese culture (which most Taiwanese are descended from, unless you're dating an Aborigine or a person of another race) typically moves extremely slow where dating is concerned. We're talking 'a few months before the first kiss' slow. No decent Taiwanese girl would WANT to marry you and move to the US with you after only having known you for a month. The girls who are unnaturally eager or who move extremely fast have ulterior motives. It's up to you if that's what you want as well. This... What would be considered a slutty or loose girl in Taipei would probably translate to a below average US woman in terms of dating speed. Add to that the fact that Taiwanese don't really drink like Koreans and Japanese do, or even Thai women, and there's even less chance of 'hookups'. One thing you'll have going for you is if you're white, Taiwanese women love white guys. An average looking white dude could do really well. But it'd probably be a mix of first and second base action.
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