whichwayisup Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I've been tested for about 7 different strands of Lyme on multiple occasions. I don't have any disease. These pains are psychosomatic. I know that. The pains are in my joints -- wrists, ankles, elbows & there are headaches -- but they do not follow a known disease pattern. This is why yoga will help. Hate to ask but one thing I just thought of, fibromyalgia? Do you ever feel energy (kind of like electric shocks) inside your joints or when you feel the pain? I ask this because a friend of mine was recently diagnosed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hate to ask but one thing I just thought of, fibromyalgia? Do you ever feel energy (kind of like electric shocks) inside your joints or when you feel the pain? I ask this because a friend of mine was recently diagnosed. Fibro is more tissue/muscle tender points, not joint pain IME, but the shocks of pain are very accurate. It's like bursts of pain like mini fireworks all over your body, not joints specifically though. Link to post Share on other sites
Author d0nnivain Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 I don't have fibromyalgia. I have been through the medical gamut & there is nothing medically wrong, other than the depression. I'm not changing therapists. She's actually new & has done me more good in the last 6 months then the old guy did in the last 2 years. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I'm so sorry you are going through this. My mother in law was severely depressed and felt like she was in a deep hole that she couldn't climb out of. I know you don't want to go outside but if you have a porch or patio maybe sitting in the sunlight might help. I wish you well. Link to post Share on other sites
Author d0nnivain Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 I managed to get some stuff done yesterday & it felt good. My body still aches but one foot in front of the other, right? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
mercy Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 but one foot in front of the other, right? Right! Just a thought but have you ever tried Hypnotherapy with a trained therapist? I've read it works well with CBT. Link to post Share on other sites
Author d0nnivain Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 No Mercy I have not tried hypnotherapy. What would I be getting hypnotized to do? I understand how it works to stop smoking but not for depression. Link to post Share on other sites
mercy Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 No Mercy I have not tried hypnotherapy. What would I be getting hypnotized to do? I understand how it works to stop smoking but not for depression. Here are a couple articles to read. Hypnotherapy and Depression Clinical Hypnosis « Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Center of New Orleans 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GorillaTheater Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hey Donni, just saw this. I unfortunately don't have any advice, but I wish you every success in getting past this. I'm sorry for the trouble you're going through. But you rock, and you can overcome this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author d0nnivain Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Thanks Gorilla Theater. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I am sorry for your recent issues...Just saw this... I battle at times as well..And it can affect me on a physical level..for sure.. Its always been two things for me.... 1)...I have a strong belief in the mind/body connection...I can't speak for everyone, but I believe resistance training is best...The main reason is that while stuff like running/walking are also good, it really takes too long to reach the level you need to get the "feel good" hormones into action...When I weight train, I can get in that "zone" in literally 10-15 minutes..It's quite efficient in that manner...An added plus with resistance training is that the feeling of being strong...really gives people(including myself) a kind of invincible kind of attitude...Those who engage in this activity will concur, that the feeling you get the day after is really something....it can make an improvement for anyone, any gender, any age... 2)....Make sure you have a definitive purpose for your day..I have 2 businesses to run, so its usually not much of a problem there for me, but I have the opposite problem(which can be equally problematic), finding down time...But whatever, if you have a definite and deliberate purpose, then I find it helps me greatly... A few other things... I don't believe any amount of money should prevent someone from achieving their goals of achieving satisfactory general mental health ..If you think that massage therapy will help and your H isn't into it, then find a qualified massage therapist and pay them....I have also heard that someone who is trained in Reiki(sp?), can do wonders for people that are dealing with depression.. On a personal level(and understand, these are only my opinions), I say dont get overwhelmed by all the therapy...I think for some, it becomes "paralysis by analysis"...I also don't really like the idea of some of the drugs...I know it has helped people and perhaps even saved some peoples lives, but from what I have seen personally, it should only be considered as an absolute last resort....Again...only my personal opinions here, others will vary.. Hopefully you break out of it soon...you have my best thoughts.,. TFY 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Author d0nnivain Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 I'm not a big fan of better living through chemistry. I have had some bad reactions to various Antidepressants that have been prescribed for me. Paxil actually made me catatonic several years back. I was terrified. I may try Reiki. I never have. A friend is a practitioner. She read me once last time we were together & was surprised at how light I was then knowing some of what I'd been through. She lives too far away to be helpful now but I may see if she can refer somebody locally. Link to post Share on other sites
JustGettingBy Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Sorry you're going through this. There's been several studies claiming that meditation can be as effective as medication in fighting depression. I know that when I was showing some symptoms (albeit not enough for a diagnosis) meditation helped. Link to post Share on other sites
Justanaverageguy Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 1)...I have a strong belief in the mind/body connection..,. TFY Strongly agree with this - attacking depression and mental health issues requires a multifaceted approach. The link between body mind goes both ways. Moving the body, staying active raises mood and helps automatically adjust thought patterns. Also body work like yoga, tai chi and Qi gong are specifically designed to help balance this connection so are definitely something you should try. Also I saw you mentioned you have previously had issues with PTSD indicating there was likely a significant trauma at some point. Eastern philosophies believe trauma is kept in the body - releasing it rids the body/mind of the negative effects. If your open to alternative therapies I would recommend something called TRE - Tension. Trauma Release Excercises. Something I learned through my experiences is that the body and nervous system holds onto tension, stress, trauma. Excercise and of course yoga and other type of body work is one great way to help release this tension from the nervous syste.. But over long periods and particularly for people who have gone through significant negative physical and emotional experiences this can really build up and be quite difficult to remove. I came across a technique .... by a weird kind of coincidence and it worked wonders for me. Its a bit weird but basically its a technique that produces and involuntary tremor in your body. Called a neurogenic tremor. Basically your body shakes without you consciously telling it to. Humans and other animals actually do this naturally when they go into "shock" after a trauma experience. This technique allows you to induce this state deliberately to achieve the same thing. Release stress and tension that has accumulated in your system over time. Sounds weird and it is a bit - but for me it was like a miracle cure to release a lot of negative pent up stress\anger\negativity. The military has also started using this technique specifically for treating PTSD. It like getting the best massage I have ever gotten in my entire life x 100. Seriously that good. There are practitioners who often double as practical psychiatrists or counselors located in most major cities around the globe and again youtube videos that explain it online. I recommend it to everyone - even people who don't think they have any issues because of how much it helped me. You can look up practitioners here who you can book sessions with to teach you -> https://traumaprevention.com/tre-provider-list/ And get some extra info online about the process here I warn you the shaking looks a little bizarre 2 Link to post Share on other sites
mercy Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1)...I have a strong belief in the mind/body connection... Please, this is just a request. Sorry for the thread jack. I use hand weights/dumb bells but I'd like to get a few routines for bar bells I don't want some wacky guy on youtube I'd like to know who you think is reputable on youtube or blogs. I don't want to get hurt. I want to learn the correct way to lift. So, sorry, d0nnivan, it's just hard when I don't Pm men. When you have some free time could you post a coupe you like in the exercise forum. Thank you hope you see this post. Link to post Share on other sites
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