Cobra_X Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I'm 5'10". I am used to fact that most people are shorter than me, men as well as women. Height to a man is what big boobs are to women. Don't let it bother you. Look to who he is. Disagree. I don't know any guys who will break up with a woman because her tits are not big enough. Big boobs are a bonus, not a dealbreaker. Height is a dealbreaker for a majority of women... not a bonus. I would compare being a short guy to being a trans-woman. Link to post Share on other sites
Gr8fuln2020 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I think she is pretty normal. I don't see many women willing to date short men. I don't mean that. I am referring to her characterization. Link to post Share on other sites
GuitarGuy7 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Short men can make excellent boyfriends and lovers. I think it's because us short men have a chip on our shoulder, like we have something to prove. Since we're used to being passed over for our height, we make up for it by being the best at things that are in our control. That's why a lot of short guys work out, it's why a lot of us learn to become confident, learn to become resilient, why we learn to become hard-workers and good lovers. So enjoy that compensation ladies. Link to post Share on other sites
JuneL Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Suggested he buys elevator shoes & shoe lifts from amazon. Just curious: Did you pay for those, since that was your suggestion? And did he suggest you to do plastic surgery for bigger boobs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TheTraveler Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 One woman I hang with of late is 5'7" I dunno how height came up with guys and what not, but if the guy was 5'4" as the OP suggested she would immediately rule him out. No ifs, ands or buts Height matters Link to post Share on other sites
Cookiesandough Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) height matters but I feel like its more about body proportions and practical reasons for me, like chest/shoulder width, arms/legs length, ratio of all this. But it's not just short guys... I went on a date with a guy 6'4" recently (taller than my preference, but I gave it a shot) and I was not that attracted for a same reason. He was really lanky, didn't have good proportions for me. I just find average height less likely encounter the proportion problem, but it can still happen. Oh I also notice super tall men have this hunch to their posture a lot of times that I'm not that into, I suppose from having to look down all the time And the practical reason of course is because I am 5'6" and I don't want to look down on or up at my partner too much and vice versa. I like us to line up when we're cuddling, kissing etc. A little taller is cool because I can wear some heels and still line up Basically, short, average, tall...it's about the whole package and preference. Edited October 13, 2017 by Cookiesandough Link to post Share on other sites
Author toomanyquestions123 Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 I just want to clarify something !! i dont mind dating short guys, short guys are hot especially if they have an amazing personality in linear !! the one i was dating is too short, he is almost my height and i am a petite !!! i dont mind short guys that their height start from 5'7'' or 170 cms & above. Thats short, but normal short. The one i was dating was 161 cms & with the lifts i forced him to wear, he reached max max 165 cms & still saw him as very short. Maybe his body parts are not proportional & if he had this witty personality that i like i might have neglected this part that bothered me. SO NO woman do like to date short guys, but not very extremely short guys. In addition to that, very short guys even though they try to hide their height insecurities but they tend to be extremely nice or extremely available because they think if they do that they will get the girl they want. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Cookiesandough Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 that makes complete sense to me, toomanyquestions123!! Link to post Share on other sites
5x5 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Short men can make excellent boyfriends and lovers. They can also make woeful boyfriends and lovers. I think it's because us short men have a chip on our shoulder, like we have something to prove. Meh... some people will like me, while some won't and I don't care if they don't. Since we're used to being passed over for our height, we make up for it by being the best at things that are in our control. I can't recall ever explicitly being turned down for my height, and have seldom been turned down by women at all. While I have never lacked for female suitors, have had a kaleidoscope of plentiful sex with women in two marriages another long term relationship, plenty of other shorter term relationships and a number of one night stands. Where for the most part most of the women I was with asked me out and or offered me sex. I've got lots of other short male friends who have also been popular with lots of women sexually as well. Being short I can't say I'm used to being passed over at all. That's why a lot of short guys work out, it's why a lot of us learn to become confident, learn to become resilient, why we learn to become hard-workers and good lovers. So enjoy that compensation ladies. The only reason I ever worked out was because there was a time I was required to maintain a certain level of fitness to do one of my former jobs as an infantry soldier and NCO. From as far back as I can remember when I was a child I have always been very confident, such things are inherent in lots of people regardless of their height. Short people aren't more resilient than tall people, just as they aren't better workers or lovers. Such things are inherent in lots of tall people, just as they are inherent in lots of short people. Considering how tremendously easy I have had it in having my fill of women and sex. I don't understand why some short people, seem to think being short is some sort of impediment that they need to be overcome. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
5x5 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 That's good stuff. I love it. When you think about these guys who struggle with dating, they are always lacking in one of those areas. When we try to tell them to be personable, masculine, confident, and assertive it seems to fall on deaf ears. Only to continue to wallow in self-doubt and self-pity. Looking to blame their situation on height, penis size or some other excuse. You (and so many others) prove them all wrong. You prove that success starts with a positive attitude. I don't get it, I've seen and known tall and short men alike who are abject failures when it comes to women. Just as I've seen and known tall and short men alike who draw women easily. The only common thing I have noticed is the failures tend to behave alike regardless of their height. Just as the successes, also share some common behaviours regardless of their height. Link to post Share on other sites
ironspider Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 As a short dude I have to chime in as it does bother me. When I go on a date with a woman who is my height or taller, they usually wear a heel of some sort and yes, I do get a little uncomfortable. I've had plenty of women decline a second/third date by being honest and saying they don't feel comfortable out with a shorter guy. But some women don't care. Most women prefer taller men because that's the norm and then there is also the fact that taller height is a masculine and protective quality. I get that but as it's just the "look" reality is different, a short guy is just as tough as a tall one. I prefer shorter women, maybe because I am short and am fully aware that many women don't find me attractive due to my height. I can't call them shallow, mean or whatever because it's personal preference. I prefer thin woman, does that make me shallow, no we are allowed to have a type. But to all the ladies out there, please don't go out with us shorties, already knowing our height, if it's not something you want. It sucks to be denied because of something you can't control. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I just want to clarify something !! i dont mind dating short guys, short guys are hot especially if they have an amazing personality in linear !! the one i was dating is too short, he is almost my height and i am a petite !!! i dont mind short guys that their height start from 5'7'' or 170 cms & above. Thats short, but normal short. The one i was dating was 161 cms & with the lifts i forced him to wear, he reached max max 165 cms & still saw him as very short. Maybe his body parts are not proportional & if he had this witty personality that i like i might have neglected this part that bothered me. SO NO woman do like to date short guys, but not very extremely short guys. In addition to that, very short guys even though they try to hide their height insecurities but they tend to be extremely nice or extremely available because they think if they do that they will get the girl they want. People can't wish themselves taller. It's something he can't change. I think this is what's bothering people. You are basically saying he is unworthy of being loved due to something beyond his control. Link to post Share on other sites
Cookiesandough Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Not really... Maynr he just needs to find someone a good shorter than him so theres no awkward height difference in heels...(Like 4'11"")or the pool of tall women who don't mind if they're taller than their man (like Nicole Kidman). Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Not really... Maynr he just needs to find someone a good shorter than him so theres no awkward height difference in heels...(Like 4'11"")or the pool of tall women who don't mind if they're taller than their man (like Nicole Kidman). So, you are saying that he needs to become rich and famous? I think that will only work for a very small number of short men. Even then... remember that Kidman dumped the guy for being short and went on to much taller men. Link to post Share on other sites
Cookiesandough Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) So, you are saying that he needs to become rich and famous? I think that will only work for a very small number of short men. Even then... remember that Kidman dumped the guy for being short and went on to much taller men. Tom cruise was/is and rich and famous, but Kidman was and is also rich and famous herself. So it'd not be unlike a very beautiful & successful woman going for a guy a little more successful but not much in any other field. She could have chose from tall men just as as successful if that was a priority.. I don't think she dumped him for being short? Where did you hear that? If I remember correctly, her current husband is also shorter than her. Edited October 13, 2017 by Cookiesandough 1 Link to post Share on other sites
No_Go Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 A preference is a preference. I'm just getting tired of politically correct statements that any visual preference is discrimination and bla bla bla. In the end of the day you can't force sexual attraction, because instincts/biology beat mind/society any and every time. The naked truth is most women prefer tall man and most men prefer thin women. Now, a short guy or obese lady is still dateable - he/she just need to target their niche. There is a niche for everyone. But to sob desperately how unfair life is because her 'thin bitchy friend gets all the attention' or he's under-approached in OLD because of height restrictions is desperate and pathetic. I saw a guy friend of mine (5'6) listing himself as 7'11 to avoid height filters. I mean if it wan't screaming desperation, it would have been comical... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
knabe Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 the lifts i forced him to wear, That you find no problem with the above statement speak volumes about you, OP. I would work on making your character stronger rather than making your Boyfriend taller. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 There's short, and then there is small......its a bigger difference than you might imagine.. TFY Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 So, you are saying that he needs to become rich and famous? I think that will only work for a very small number of short men. Even then... remember that Kidman dumped the guy for being short and went on to much taller men. Keith Urbain may be taller than Tom Cruise but he is still shorter than Nicole. And she didn't dump him for being short, he left her. Link to post Share on other sites
Addius Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 In Charlotte’s words from Sex and the City: “How good is he with his tongue!?” Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Keith Urbain may be taller than Tom Cruise but he is still shorter than Nicole. And she didn't dump him for being short, he left her. I was under the impression that Kidman was cheating with another actor. Was it Russel Crowe? Link to post Share on other sites
Cookiesandough Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) I think they dated in the 90s after being costars and had solid career history behind her. I think she was famous in the late 80s and she's a great actress. Keith Urban is essentially the same height as her. He is not short by any means. This may sound weird, but I feel like maybe you don't understand women very well. Using a short or unattractive man for career advancement or money is very common. Of course they will rationalize it and never admit to these things. I mean if you think about it... Even Hitler believed he was the good guy."Women" aren't some hive mind, collective consciousness. We're individuals with different preferences who place different levels of importance on them. But even if you're speaking generally, it seems like you just have it in your mind most women date short guys for money or career status so you make assumptions to fit this narrative Edited October 13, 2017 by a LoveShack.org Moderator 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Lol where are you getting this. Is this actually true or are you just basing this all on your frankly odd belief that being shorter is a deal breaker to ALL women. Sure, most women might prefer taller men, but Nicole Kidman may be one of many who that doesn't matter much to? I was a kid when they broke up. It's just how I remember it from the tabloids. Maybe I'm wrong, but that was my impression at the time. I think they dated in the 90s after being costars and had solid career history behind her. I think she was famous in the late 80s and she's a great actress. First of all... I think at this point we all realize that new actresses don't get work because they are "good at acting". Nicole Kidman had to sleep with somebody to get famous. That somebody was Tom Cruise... maybe Harvey Weinstein or another producer before that. "Women" aren't some hive mind, collective consciousness. We're individuals with different preferences who place different levels of importance on them. But even if you're speaking generally, it seems like you just have it in your mind most women date short guys for money or career status so you make assumptions to fit this narrative I'm speaking generally. There is no way to speak with specifics when talking about the average preferences of 3 billion people who are all individuals. I am not sure what you are saying. Are trying to say that women never use men they are not attracted to for money or career advancement? Link to post Share on other sites
Cookiesandough Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) No I'm not saying women never do that, it's just not the conclusion I jump to whenever I see a tall woman with a shorter man. Or a woman with a short man. I don't assume she's got to be using him. Plenty of women height is a nonissue to. . Even op said the personality click wasn't there either. She's very talented. She's a good singer too. Even if you are suggesting she "worked her way up" sexually speaking, which is unsubstantiated but I'll go with it, she didn't have to marry Tom Cruise to do that. I think she'd be better off sleeping with producers/ directors/casting director (or however it works) Its just not the conclusion id jump to, see no proof of it but I respect your view Edited October 13, 2017 by Cookiesandough 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 No I'm not saying women never do that, it's just not the conclusion I jump to whenever I see a tall woman with a shorter man. Or a woman with a short man. I don't assume she's got to be using him. Plenty of women account for more than height in a partner to the point they can still be very attracted to a shorter man. Even op said the personality click wasn't there either. She's very talented. She's a good singer too. Even if you are suggesting she "worked her way up" sexually speaking, which is unsubstantiated but I'll go with it, she didn't have to marry Tom Cruise to do that. I think she'd be better off sleeping with producers/ directors/casting agents (or however it works) Its just not the conclusion id jump to, see no proof of it When you see a woman with a short guy, this should be your default setting. It does sound cynical, but it will often provide you insight into working with the couple. Women and men tend to have set behavior patterns that are somewhat instinctual. It's important to learn and understand them. Better to sleep with just 1 guy and get to the top rather than 15 or 20 producers... and yes this is how most of Hollywood works. Link to post Share on other sites
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