In reality how many random men are psychopaths?

[SavinaV]

If a girl is either too drunk or very naivee enough to get into a car with a stranger or several strangers, how many of them are really psychopaths or potential rapists? more than 50%, 50%, or less than that.

 

In %, what's the likely that she's gonna turn into another Natalee Holloway case, murdered and never to be seen again vs what's the likely that it's an your average, sane man/men that drives her home or where she wants to be dropped off?

 

By common sense, I never get into a car with a random stranger. However, I doubt most men are psychopaths.

 

When my best friend was 20, she was once drunk from a party (a bit sick as a result of it) and naivee enough to get in a car with two men. However, nothing happened to her, they drove her home and left. I scolded her for that after course.

[Redhead14]

If a girl is either too drunk or very naivee enough to get into a car with a stranger or several strangers, how many of them are really psychopaths or potential rapists? more than 50%, 50%, or less than that.

 

In %, what's the likely that she's gonna turn into another Natalee Holloway case, murdered and never to be seen again vs what's the likely that it's an your average, sane man/men that drives her home or where she wants to be dropped off?

 

By common sense, I never get into a car with a random stranger. However, I doubt most men are psychopaths.

 

When my best friend was 20, she was once drunk from a party (a bit sick as a result of it) and naivee enough to get in a car with two men. However, nothing happened to her, they drove her home and left. I scolded her for that after course.

 

It's not about how many there are, it's about whether it's worth the risk . . .

[knabe]

First....don't take the risk. Ever.

 

Second, from what I have read it would be less than 5%. Just like there aren't near as many people with NPD, BPD, blah blah blah as people think there are.

[CptInsano]

This question is like how often you need to put your finger into a light socket before the electric shock kills you. Why would you do so in the first place?

[understand50]

Let's turn this around, it a huge risk for a guy to pick up a drunk woman and just drop her off at home. Too many times, where men have accused of something, and been innocent. The sad part, is if you are a decent person, all you may have wanted to do is just help and see they get home in one peace.

 

I think in today's society, the only thing to do is call a cab, and maybe pay the bill to get them home. There are exceptions, if you see them in the middle of a snow storm or hot desert, or real bad part of town, and leaving them would mean possible death, you pick them up. Just turn on your phone recorder and camera the whole time you are with them.

 

My two cents.......

[RecentChange]

Yeah my immediate thought was most men wouldn't want the liability of a drunk stranger! I think someone with ill will may be more inclined to get involved in such a situation.

 

I think most "gentleman" would call a cab or Lyft for her.

[preraph]

According to FBI profiler John Douglas, he estimates 1 in 100 people are sociopaths. Psychopaths are sometimes indistinguishable, but some sociopaths can be nonviolent ones, like CEOs who don't care if they put someone on the street to make a buck.

 

But perhaps the more pertinent statistic is that one in four women will be violently raped or assaulted in their lifetime -- and that the majority of those women will be young women. So young women are the prime targets, as common sense would tell you.

 

As you've mentioned, there are ways to mitigate the risk, such as you said, Not getting into cars with strangers. One tip I always give women or anyone at risk to be picked on is if your car breaks down or something like that and you have to rely on someone to help, do not let the random person who comes along do it. YOU pick the person. Profilers say you're a hundred times more likely to get a bad stranger who offers to help than if you go up to and pick a person (a woman preferably) and ask for help.

 

There are many other ways to be careful, and many of these are instinctual to women after centuries of rape and assault. But if someone targets you and you choose to ignore any red flags or are not paying attention to your surroundings, your chances of assault go way up. Be alert and always notice what's going on around you, who you park next to at Walmart. If you see someone questionable in between you and your car in the parking lot, go back inside and watch and wait until they leave.

 

Don't get near a car if you're on the street and someone asks for directions. Make them stay back or you back up. Don't go near a vehicle. Profilers say the time to fight is when someone is trying to get you into a car. Even if they have a gun, fight them, because they are not trying to get you in a car to be nice to you. They mean harm. One easy way to fight back is to simply sit down. It is very hard for even a man to lift dead weight. Sit down and scream and fight. If there's more than one man, of course, they can drag you off, but maybe they'll decide you're not worth the trouble. Even if they have a gun pointed at you, fight and run if you get the chance. It's not easy to shoot a moving person. Plus they'll be in some panic too because you've gone rogue.

 

Do NOT get bat-faced drunk and then let some guy "offer to help you home" from a bar. Don't make decisions about who to trust after you're really messed up. If you're at a bar and only had a couple of drinks and become ill or suddenly more messed up than the alcohol will warrant, you have been doped, either with drugs or strong liquor. I believe this happened to me three times in my life. Unless you know the person and also know people who know him, don't accept help. And even someone you know can be secretly bad. Instead, ask a woman to drive you home or call Uber.

 

And I think we've all watched enough crime shows to know the signs of a guy who's stalking you. Never relax about someone who is orbiting around watching or gathering info on you or pestering you. Be brutal and tell him it's never going to happen and to get lost or you'll call the police.

[Sweetfish]

According to FBI profiler John Douglas, he estimates 1 in 100 people are sociopaths. Psychopaths are sometimes indistinguishable, but some sociopaths can be nonviolent ones, like CEOs who don't care if they put someone on the street to make a buck.

 

 

Yes, and some men and women here have dated them and yet have no clue on how to identify psychopaths or sociopaths.

 

But perhaps the more pertinent statistic is that one in four women will be violently raped or assaulted in their lifetime -- and that the majority of those women will be young women. So young women are the prime targets, as common sense would tell you.

Now that you took a statistic and used it to for shock value or lets assume you just echoed "3rd wave" data lets look at the big picture.

 

One in four women and one in six men will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime.

Both critics and supporters of the CDC’s methodology note the striking disparity between CDC figures and the Justice Department’s crime statistics based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (which includes crimes unreported to the police). While the CDC estimates that nearly 2 million adult American women were raped in 2011 and nearly 6.7 million suffered some other form of sexual violence, the NCVS estimate for that year was 238,000 rapes and sexual assaults.

Now look what is funny here.

 

As of 2012:

“Forcible rape” had been defined by the UCR SRS as “the carnal knowledge of a female, forcibly and against her will.” That definition, unchanged since 1927, was outdated and narrow. It only included forcible male penile penetration of a female vagina. The new definition is:

“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus

with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person

, without the consent of the victim.”

 

For the first time ever, the new definition includes any gender of victim and perpetrator, not just women being raped by men.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-eric-holder-announces-revisions-uniform-crime-report-s-definition-rape

 

 

 

 

And now the real surprise: when asked about experiences in the last 12 months, men reported being “made to penetrate”—either by physical force or due to intoxication—at virtually the same rates as women reported rape (both 1.1 percent in 2010, and 1.7 and 1.6 respectively in 2011).

it is just as misleading to equate a woman’s experience of alcohol-addled sex with the experience of a rape victim who is either physically overpowered or attacked when genuinely incapacitated. For purely biological reasons, there is little doubt that adult victims of such crimes are mostly female—though male children and adolescents are at fairly high risk: as criminologists Richard Felson and Patrick Cundiff report in a fascinating recent analysis, a 15-year-old male is considerably more likely to be sexually assaulted than a woman over 40. The CDC reports that 12.3 percent of female victims were 10 or younger at the time of their first completed rape victimization; for male victims, that number is 27.8 percent.

The CDC's Rape Numbers Are Misleading | Time.com Edited August 18, 2017 by Sweetfish

[preraph]

And experts all agree that rape and assaults are vastly underreported so the DOJ's stats will be much lower than the actual because they only take into account reported and processed crimes.

[somanymistakes]

Most men are not monsters.

 

The problem is that monsters don't just attack once. They attack as often as they can, and they have an incentive to maneuver themselves into situations where they can get access to vulnerable people.

 

I've walked alone at night, I've let men I met only that day drive me home. I've fallen asleep on the couch of a guy who was one-sidedly attracted to me, nothing happened to me because most people are not monsters!

 

The problem with letting fear rule your life is that it's most likely to be the people you would never suspect who will actually hurt you. You can be terrified of absolutely everything and avoid all strangers and still be molested by a family member. You are far more likely to be assaulted by the person you are dating than by a man on the street.

 

Yes, be aware of risks, especially when you're drinking and putting yourself in a position where you can't make intelligent decisions. Yes, learn how to fight and defend yourself in case you ever need to.

 

But don't go crazy trying to live a risk-free life.

[preraph]

Men are far more apt to be violent than women because they have testosterone. And then of course, other factors pile on top of that, societal factors, entitlement, and ancient history.

 

So don't ever go assuming any man is as harmless as most women are. They have an inherent capacity for violence being more easily triggered.

[Shanex]

That reminds me of past female friends of mine in my late teens to early 20s. I wasn't a driver yet and most of the time we didn't really have a long walk to get back to our homes in my town. But I'd always, and I mean always be the good guy bringing them safely home. I didn't drive then, and even then I would have been way too wasted to do so.

 

Now when it comes to picking up a stranger for a free ride.. I've done it a handful times. You know men usually pick up only ladies (if they are pretty) and soldiers. But never at night or never a girl or woman who was obviously drunk. I'm not a psychopath and the vast majority of men aren't, but as it was smartly pointed out before. How often did it happen an innocent man has been accused of rape, and went to jail for it?

 

There are two sides to the coin here, but generally men are indeed more prone to violence than women.

[preraph]

yes, it's a risk for men to pick up strange women. For one thing, they may already have a violent man in their life who will come after you. Or they may be prostitutes and steal your wallet.

 

I will tell you something that happened to me just last month when I disobeyed one of my own cardinal rules. I was on the way to work in the morning in my residential neighborhood still and I saw a little sweaty man carrying a gallon gas container and a battery. It was already hot outside. I felt him having both the gas container and the battery, which is heavy, he must just have car trouble. So I picked him up.

 

On the way to the battery place, he freely told me he had stolen the battery from a guy he does auto repairs for sometimes because the guy wasn't home to pay him after he got there. He said he had made the guy promise he'd be there because he only had enough gas to get there and not to get back. So he was selling the guy's battery so he could buy gas. I offered him money instead because now I felt bad being party to this, but he wouldn't take it. You just never know what you're getting in the middle of.

[thefooloftheyear]

yes, it's a risk for men to pick up strange women. For one thing, they may already have a violent man in their life who will come after you. Or they may be prostitutes and steal your wallet.

 

I will tell you something that happened to me just last month when I disobeyed one of my own cardinal rules. I was on the way to work in the morning in my residential neighborhood still and I saw a little sweaty man carrying a gallon gas container and a battery. It was already hot outside. I felt him having both the gas container and the battery, which is heavy, he must just have car trouble. So I picked him up.

 

On the way to the battery place, he freely told me he had stolen the battery from a guy he does auto repairs for sometimes because the guy wasn't home to pay him after he got there. He said he had made the guy promise he'd be there because he only had enough gas to get there and not to get back. So he was selling the guy's battery so he could buy gas. I offered him money instead because now I felt bad being party to this, but he wouldn't take it. You just never know what you're getting in the middle of.

 

 

Good deed or not, id say you were out of your mind to pick that guy up...

 

TFY

[Sweetfish]

Men are far more apt to be violent than women because they have testosterone. And then of course, other factors pile on top of that, societal factors, entitlement, and ancient history.

 

So don't ever go assuming any man is as harmless as most women are. They have an inherent capacity for violence being more easily triggered.

 

Yes.. every guy is a loaded weapon:rolleyes:

[Redhead14]

Not every guy who might harm a woman is a psychopath either . . . they may have other issues that could lead them to bad behavior anyway. It's not just about psycho/sociopaths. Some guys are just rough with women, don't like women in general and don't treat them well and/or just drunk and become aggressive, but there isn't anything "clinically" wrong with them. The pool of "harmful" daters is probably broader than just how many are psychopaths. Even if out of say 10 dating candidates, there is only one who could be a threat in some way, you don't know if know if you're not with that "10th" guy.

[preraph]

^ Exactly, which is why one in four women are victims of male violence, which is 25% compared to roughly 1% are sociopaths. According to Bureau of Justice Statisitics, 64% of women killed are killed by a spouse, boyfriend, or family member. Homicide stats like this are the more accurate stats since homicides are nearly always reported and investigated whereas domestic violence goes widely unreported.