Cocaine to overcome social anxiety?

[dtla1992]

I suffer from social anxiety, seemingly like a lot of people on here. I think I'm fortunate though because I'm pretty good looking so I've have had moderate to good success dating despite my hang ups. It definitely bothers me though because I see opportunity after opportunity pass me by and I rarely take advantage. I go out regularly, about 50 times a year. Most nights nothing happens. I basically sit around drinking, interacting mostly with friends, and probably have about 20 conversations a year with girls I'm attracted to. I generally feel if they stick around, they're interested, but I have a difficult time ever asking her out unless I know it's a complete layup. I get a lot of girls who offer their number but I'm never interested. The pretty girls never offer up their number unless I ask and I usually just talk until they get bored and leave, sometimes hours later - thinking he must not be interested. The sad thing is if I ask, I almost always get a number, then a date, and we often hookup. So I'm very comfortable around women once I know the interest is there. But the fact that I almost never get rejected tells me I'm not taking any risks. My big problem is that I have a very difficult time getting out of my head. Even if it's just purely a social event with friends, and no potential romantic interests involved, I am prone to being overcome by social anxiety. I sit there and see everyone else having a good time and I just can't find the energy to engage with people let alone smile. The rare times that I do, the results are very pronounced. I make friends, get phone numbers, have a great time. But I've never found a way to consistently get out of my head.

 

So anyway, enter cocaine. I recently dated a girl for a couple months and she was a major party girl. I've been around cocaine a fair bit but never had the urge to try it. I don't really have an addictive personality. I drink, have used marijuana occasionally, but I don't smoke nor had I ever done any hard drugs. I'm not even addicted to caffeine or sugar. She got me to do coke with her before sex a couple times. It didn't really do all that much for me. It was a private, very intimate setting so I didn't really get any sense of how it might change my interaction in public. The sex was just more intense because of the high, and then it was harder to sleep and recover the next day. Well we broke up about a couple months ago and she left a dime bag at my place. It just sat there until last night.

 

A buddy convinced me to go out to see a friend who was DJing at 2AM. I had a long week and was feeling dead tired but wanted to go out anyway. I decided to bring the coke just in case I needed a pick me up. So there is this very attractive girl, Lily, that usually goes out with us. I've seen her at least 20 times but we barely interact. She is always dancing and attracting lots of attention. We barely say a word to each other even though I should really know her quite well by now. It's gotten to the point that I feel really awkward being around her because I think to myself "Why are we both really tight with a ton of people in common but never say anything to each other?" I was convinced she thinks I'm a complete loser.

 

Well as usual I'm just sitting there like a wallflower all evening. It was shaping up to be yet another in a long line of boring uneventful nights, when I noticed Lily feigning touching her nose i.e. the "do you have any coke?" gesture to a friend. He shook his head no but I immediately interjected and said "I have some." She grabbed my hand and led me outside. Shockingly we actually talked. This was the most interaction I have ever had with her. We both did a line and then went back inside. I got a huge rush of energy. The next thing I know, I'm dancing, bumping and grinding with Lily and having a blast. It was like a light switch and I had become the life of the party. I decided to go back to the bar to get another drink. While at the bar, this really hot girl (literally hot) is standing next to me. I don't even remember what I said, but I just started talking to her. Next thing I know we're outside doing more lines of coke and then started making out. She's a performer at the club, fire twirling dancer and was basically dressed in all black lingerie. It was ridiculously sexy. I ended up hanging out with her friends until 4AM then we went to an after party that was going until 6AM. She came home with me last night and we had amazing sex. She just left a little while ago and now I'm feeling wrecked. All the booze, coke, and lack of sleep caught up to me this Saturday afternoon. But I did have one of the most memorable nights of my life last night. But am I going down a slippery slope? I'm sitting here contemplating if I should start taking cocaine before I go out so that I can overcome my social anxieties. I mean frankly, I'd be happy going out a lot less than I do if I'm guaranteed to have a good time. At the same time, I'm a fairly conservative person and this whole idea also seems completely nuts... Does anybody have friends who are responsible recreational cocaine users who didn't become addicts or ruin lives?

Edited November 11, 2017 by dtla1992

[CautiouslyOptimistic]

If I have any friends who are responsible coke users, I don't know about it. I don't think cocaine is a solution to any problem.

[carhill]

I was an adult during the coke 80's and observed a lot of irresponsible use but hey, most of them I know of are still alive so there's that.

 

I did know one lady who was a responsible coke user for many years, meaning she held a regular professional job and was a mother/wife but ultimately, and I didn't really consider the social anxiety angle at the time, it and alcohol killed her. The worst thing about that, for me, is the choice robbed her 18yo son of a mother.

 

I know people self-medicate off-book, known plenty but why not try the on-book regular medical, legal way, at least once anyway? Do something monitored and long term and see if you can get the brain's chemistry back in a balance that minimizes the anxiety. You can also learn cognitive coping tools. Life experience usually will bring those but not always.

 

If you can stop it and whatever else you like for fun times for a month or two and not think about it, that would put you into the recreational category. If you need it, want it, or think about it regularly, watch out for the slippery slope. I'd say the same thing for 'legal' drugs too. Good luck!

[staggerlee71]

cocaine will be a rip roarin good time.

It will alleviate your social anxiety at first

but then, it will lead you to a place of regret.

 

You are who you surround yourself with. Want to be a millionaire, make friends and hang with millionaires.

 

You want to meet a good girl, shes not doing cocaine.

If you want to bang hot performers in black lingerie(not her first rodeo), your in the right place

 

CMON MAN!

[Highndry]

Go to the doctor and get something legal if it's that bad. Cocaine is not the answer to anyone's problems. It's the cause of millions of them, though.

[CautiouslyOptimistic]

If you want to bang hot performers in black lingerie(not her first rodeo), your in the right place

 

 

Right on.

[CryForNoOne]

Go to the doctor and get something legal if it's that bad. Cocaine is not the answer to anyone's problems. It's the cause of millions of them, though.

 

Hell no! Merck or Pfizer are no better than the drug dealer down the street. Maybe worse. At least the poor black kid only resorted to pushing drugs because he has no other option to breakout of abject poverty. Those aholes play golf at charity tournaments and give each other community service awards while they are making billions willfully poisoning America. Eventually all the opioid addicts switch to heroin and meth once they can't afford the overpriced "legal" drugs aymore...

 

Look I'm not going to endorse cocaine use, but the reaction on this thread shows how powerful "manufactured consent" is, even in a supposedly free thinking society like the US. Prescription drugs that relieve anxiety are every bit as addictive and destructive as cocaine, but cost a lot more, and benefit rich white ass holes on Wall Street instead of minorities in the inner city and "pharmaceutical firms" in Latin America. They are all terrible if abused.

 

Frankly, alcohol and cigarettes FAR are more destructive than cocaine. It's just than the former are legal and people have been brainwashed into thinking that half a million deaths a year from drunk driving, alcohol poisoning, and lung cancer are perfectly acceptable but a few thousand deaths from cocaine overdoses are a national epidemic. Alcohol and tobacco related deaths outnumber cocaine related deaths over 100:1.

 

Millions of Americans use alcohol to overcome social anxiety. I'd venture to guess the VAST majority of LS users who drink do so. I don't see anything worse about using cocaine if you can moderate your intake.

[thefooloftheyear]

That makes about as much sense as laying in front of a train so you can retire early...

 

TFY

[KBob]

As someone whose done cocaine and could be called a "responsible user", I don't recommend it as a solution to anxiety. There are studies that have said that drugs such as magic mushrooms or LSD can have anti-depressive effects, but they do not have the addictive properties that cocaine does. From the social interactions you've described you don't sound like your anxiety problem is that bad, try dealing with it in other ways.

 

 

Oh, and if you use yayo as a regular solution to anxiety you will bleed your bank account dry in months, as most coke heads do. If you're a non-addictive personality type like me, save the lines for the occasional, once a year or two good time.

[CryForNoOne]

You want to meet a good girl, shes not doing cocaine.

 

I hate to say it but there are no good girls left then (at least who go out). I'm not a big cocaine user but I see it EVERYWHERE. I'm sure there are millions of happily married church going Americans who never see cocaine, but if you go out to bars and clubs regularly you can't escape it. I was recently lamenting that almost every white girl I met on OLD used coke. I'm not talking "bad" girls either. An elementary school teacher, accountant, and ironically a single mom who was a lab technician at Amgen...

[jay1983]

I don't agree with cryfornone. There's more to it than how many people die due to. Also the ratio of people who use alchohol and tabaco to people who use coke is lopsided so yes you're going to have more dying from alchohol and tabaco simply cause that's the more common drug of choice. Doesn't mean they're more dangerous. I've smoked and drank my whole life without any major issues. I did coke for a few months, lost my job and drained my bank account. The sh*t won't let you sleep and the comedown is something from hell.

[staggerlee71]

I hate to say it but there are no good girls left then (at least who go out). I'm not a big cocaine user but I see it EVERYWHERE. I'm sure there are millions of happily married church going Americans who never see cocaine, but if you go out to bars and clubs regularly you can't escape it. I was recently lamenting that almost every white girl I met on OLD used coke. I'm not talking "bad" girls either. An elementary school teacher, accountant, and ironically a single mom who was a lab technician at Amgen...

 

 

my point!! You see, because you've met teachers, accountants, single moms etc doesn't make a good partner. SEE. what they do for a living has nothing to do with it. Its who they are as a person. surround yourself with a person who uses cocaine, your surrounded by mediocrity, a veil of insecurity, for example, this person who wants to hide their social anxiety.

 

true, genuine, honest, vulnerable people don't use, they live in the present showing their genuine self, as awkward as it may feel

[CryForNoOne]

true, genuine, honest, vulnerable people don't use, they live in the present showing their genuine self, as awkward as it may feel

You've been brainwashed dude. If "true, genuine, honest, vulnerable people don't use" well that eliminates 95% of America (or frankly the human race), because the "high" from alcohol that enables people to overcome their inhibitions is the ONLY reason why people drink...

[dtla1992]

If you can stop it and whatever else you like for fun times for a month or two and not think about it, that would put you into the recreational category. If you need it, want it, or think about it regularly, watch out for the slippery slope. I'd say the same thing for 'legal' drugs too. Good luck!

 

Well it did sit in my drawer for 2 months untouched. I had almost forgotten about it until last night. I definitely didn't experience the same high the couple times I used it with my ex. I only brought it because it was thinking about getting an energy boost because I was seriously dragging. I had no idea what a "RIP ROARING" good time I was going to have. I realistically only see myself using it once or twice a month a most...

[staggerlee71]

LOL. Funny.

 

95% of what you know is using alcohol, drugs etc. Get out of the club, get out of your comfort zone, and you will see there are tons of great chicks, who don't do drugs, who are looking for a great guy.

 

The reason you think everyone is fd up is because that where you are.

I have news, there is a whole world in another place

[dtla1992]

I don't agree with cryfornone. There's more to it than how many people die due to. Also the ratio of people who use alchohol and tabaco to people who use coke is lopsided so yes you're going to have more dying from alchohol and tabaco simply cause that's the more common drug of choice. Doesn't mean they're more dangerous. I've smoked and drank my whole life without any major issues. I did coke for a few months, lost my job and drained my bank account. The sh*t won't let you sleep and the comedown is something from hell.

 

I woke up at 1PM with a bad headache but was perfectly functional by 4PM. Now considering I didn't fall asleep until 8AM, that wasn't all that bad.

 

If you don't mind sharing, how often were you using? That sounds like an awfully quick descent for just a few months. She brought over a gram of coke which I think is under $100 and that's probably going to last me a couple months at the rate I would use it. I don't see it draining my bank account or affecting anything but my Saturday and Sunday mornings...

[jay1983]

I woke up at 1PM with a bad headache but was perfectly functional by 4PM. Now considering I didn't fall asleep until 8AM, that wasn't all that bad.

 

If you don't mind sharing, how often were you using? That sounds like an awfully quick descent for just a few months. She brought over a gram of coke which I think is under $100 and that's probably going to last me a couple months at the rate I would use it. I don't see it draining my bank account or affecting anything but my Saturday and Sunday mornings...

 

Started off kinda like you i started seeing this girl who was into it. Did it with her and some other people when we were meeting I'd pitch in. Soon after I had the dealers number. I started picking it up whenever I felt like it. The problem started when i decided take a bump alone. I could never stop until it was all gone. I'd pick up a 20 and when I ran out another 20. Then started picking up 40, then another 40. I was doing about 100 a day.

[CryForNoOne]

LOL. Funny.

 

95% of what you know is using alcohol, drugs etc. Get out of the club, get out of your comfort zone, and you will see there are tons of great chicks, who don't do drugs, who are looking for a great guy.

 

The reason you think everyone is fd up is because that where you are.

I have news, there is a whole world in another place

 

We're talking on parallel planes here. My whole point is alcohol and tobacco are just as bad as cocaine. 30 years ago pot was the great evil and that turned out to be pure bunk. Look, as I stated originally, I'm not endorsing drug use (you're actually barking up the completely wrong tree there). I'm just pointing out how ridiculously hypocritical people are who drink and smoke, and pop any pill their doctor can profit from, yet self-righteously wag their finger at underground folks who use recreational drugs.

 

Me personally, I almost never take drugs of ANY kind. They are ALL poison. I don't even have a medicine cabinet. Women I've dated are shocked. I don't even own Advil or aspirin. The pharmaceutical companies would be bankrupt if most people were like me. I've NEVER tried Zanex, Percocet, Zoloft, Sudafed, Codeine, Ambien or any of that bull$h!t. I refuse it any time they suggest it and the one opioid prescription that was forced upon me, I never used. The pain never got to the point I couldn't bear it, so I just sucked it up. I gave it to a friend who was addicted to pain killers - I should have just thrown it away...

[carhill]

I recall, back when caregiving, my exW developed anxiety over the whole situation and was having a hard time coping and tried, on doctor's advice, Venlafaxine and commented that once titrated she felt, in general, far less anxious and more confident in her business interactions and perceived people's interactions with her to be more friendly and supportive. She did however comment that going off it was a real ordeal. I remember her commenting that she was forgetting things, simple daily stuff, for nearly a year after ceasing use. I don't know whether she tried coke or not. The lady in my prior post who died was her best friend at the time. In any event, she never presented as an addictive personality so substance abuse wasn't an issue in our M. I've seen it destroy other M's though.

[staggerlee71]

We're talking on parallel planes here. My whole point is alcohol and tobacco are just as bad as cocaine. 30 years ago pot was the great evil and that turned out to be pure bunk. Look, as I stated originally, I'm not endorsing drug use (you're actually barking up the completely wrong tree there). I'm just pointing out how ridiculously hypocritical people are who drink and smoke, and pop any pill their doctor can profit from, yet self-righteously wag their finger at underground folks who use recreational drugs.

 

Me personally, I almost never take drugs of ANY kind. They are ALL poison. I don't even have a medicine cabinet. Women I've dated are shocked. I don't even own Advil or aspirin. The pharmaceutical companies would be bankrupt if most people were like me. I've NEVER tried Zanex, Percocet, Zoloft, Sudafed, Codeine, Ambien or any of that bull$h!t. I refuse it any time they suggest it and the one opioid prescription that was forced upon me, I never used. The pain never got to the point I couldn't bear it, so I just sucked it up. I gave it to a friend who was addicted to pain killers - I should have just thrown it away...

 

lets not confuse the discourse here. I do agree with your cumbersome yet accurate take that big pharm is evil.

 

lets get back to the OP. In reality, it would seem, that the question is, " should I use cocaine as a relief from social anxiety. But clearly this guy has no problem meeting women, they just aren't hot enough, and he discovered cocaine, likes it, and is looking for validation. I simply wont validate it, I am not a moron and know drugs are everywhere, and suggested that if you are prepared to make bad decisions, and expect a positive outcome, I would advise reevaluation.

 

I would surmise that there is no social anxiety, but the beginning of impulsiveness, lack of self control, and the shrinking of emotional IQ

[Steve51]

Wrong choice of drugs. You do not want a stimulant when you are suffering from any kind of anxiety. Talk to your Doc and get some Xanax or an antidepressant with anti anxiety properties. That is what I did and while it worked, it took away my sex life, turned me into a zombie and I could not remember if I just brushed my teeth or not.

 

I am getting off of the pills my doctor gave me because I was dropping things, forgetting too many things and felt like I was living out but looking in at myself. They legalized marijuana here and I think I will go that route. It worked very well for me in the past.

[CryForNoOne]

Wrong choice of drugs. You do not want a stimulant when you are suffering from any kind of anxiety. Talk to your Doc and get some Xanax or an antidepressant with anti anxiety properties. That is what I did and while it worked, it took away my sex life, turned me into a zombie and I could not remember if I just brushed my teeth or not.

 

I am getting off of the pills my doctor gave me because I was dropping things, forgetting too many things and felt like I was living out but looking in at myself. They legalized marijuana here and I think I will go that route. It worked very well for me in the past.

 

This is exactly what I'm taking about! Big Pharma made tens of thousands off of you, solving a problem you could have self remedied, and in the process created problems that were far worse! Why on earth would you recommend this to the OP!!! Taking Xanax will just make him an impotent zombie. I seriously doubt that's going to help him getting laid at clubs...

[dtla1992]

lets get back to the OP. In reality, it would seem, that the question is, " should I use cocaine as a relief from social anxiety. But clearly this guy has no problem meeting women, they just aren't hot enough, and he discovered cocaine, likes it, and is looking for validation. I simply wont validate it, I am not a moron and know drugs are everywhere, and suggested that if you are prepared to make bad decisions, and expect a positive outcome, I would advise reevaluation.

 

I would surmise that there is no social anxiety, but the beginning of impulsiveness, lack of self control, and the shrinking of emotional IQ

 

What is that supposed to mean "I have no problem meeting women but they just aren't hot enough?" My friends love clubbing and going to karaoke. The extroverts get all the attention, which is not me. I'm starting to realize a lot of those extroverts are actually high all the time.

[dtla1992]

Wrong choice of drugs. You do not want a stimulant when you are suffering from any kind of anxiety. Talk to your Doc and get some Xanax or an antidepressant with anti anxiety properties. That is what I did and while it worked, it took away my sex life, turned me into a zombie and I could not remember if I just brushed my teeth or not.

 

I am getting off of the pills my doctor gave me because I was dropping things, forgetting too many things and felt like I was living out but looking in at myself. They legalized marijuana here and I think I will go that route. It worked very well for me in the past.

 

I really don't see how an antidepressant would help. I'm not depressed at all nor is this a problem in other situation except when I go out once a week. It's the guys and girls that are full of energy and laughing all the time that get all the attention. It's some combination of self consciousness and just lacking energy to "join the party" almost every time I go out. The coke certainly solved that problem last night and now I get why so many people are high at those places...

[staggerlee71]

This is exactly what I'm taking about! Big Pharma made tens of thousands off of you, solving a problem you could have self remedied, and in the process created problems that were far worse! Why on earth would you recommend this to the OP!!! Taking Xanax will just make him an impotent zombie. I seriously doubt that's going to help him getting laid at clubs...

 

His exact problem is he likes cocaine, is on a public forum looking for someone to tell him that feeling great on cocaine is good to go. what he discovered is cocaine will make you uninhibited, and he is confusing that with confidence, for SUPER hot chicks. I mean, he likes the blow.

 

CryfornoOne, you must liberal. your disdain for corporate dollars is palatable