shypapaya67 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) try to keep a long story to condensed version... in a loveless marriage. hit it off with a guy that is also married same situation which this couple was a friendly acquaintance(not real good friends) of ours. It spiraled, we started out just texting/flirting - became stronger and more involved. Was very exciting, deep, turned romantic and intimate, for about 10 months or so. talked everyday, would get wake up texts and good night texts, along with everything else... Both on same page we couldnt do anything "real" about it with regards to our home situations at the time. My spouse sneaked through my phone one night and saw text between me and a friend about this guy. nothing detailed just vague. I know i'm not the greatest for doing this, but I didnt tell the whole story - just that I had been flirting and texted this guy only a couple of times and that was it. I texted the other guy the next morning to give a heads up and bam - he basically dropped my like a hot potato. to skip a bit, my husband confronted him and AP didnt tell the full details either - but said it was all me approaching him and I made him feel uncomfortable, and he would just ignore me whenever I contacted him....ouch.... Fast forward to now. For the life of me I can not let go and get over this guy. this all happened about 9 months ago and I STILL think about him and it all no matter how hard I try not to. We do have to still see them every now and then and everyone is friendly. His wife knows nothing. We have talked via text a couple of times since then and he always says he does not want me to lose his number for good and doesnt want me to stop trying to talk to him, but the few times I have he is cold and says he is busy, etc. But still will say he doesnt want me to go away... Anyway - why cant I let go? I really need help /strength to be able to let go. I obviously have no will power, strength, etc. Its obvious he is not thinking of me. a couple of times we got a quick word in over the past summer it was either giving me hope or he was somewhat mean. Anybody have any words of wisdom? Sorry was long afterall... Edited December 11, 2017 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Paragraphs, merge threads, update title Link to post Share on other sites
CloudyHead Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Read this book: How to Break Your Addiction to a Person by Howard Halpern. For some reason, this book helped me tremendously when nothing else did. You are wasting too much time, energy and thought on a person who (1) will not reciprocate and (2) has no interest in having a relationship with you. Divert your thoughts from him to yourself and work on making yourself happy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author shypapaya67 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 thanks , I know. It helps just hearing someone tell me that! I've been reading back through some of the similar posts and it's like a pep talk for me too! I don't really have anyone I can go to for support so when I get these down moments it's horrible. I used to think time would heal but with it being so long already I'm discouraged. Link to post Share on other sites
Vivir Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Welcome shypapaya67 This guy threw you under the bus when your husband confronted him. He likely did this to protect himself, and perhaps to stop your husband from telling his wife. It is also likely he is not actually in a loveless marriage, but that is beside the point. When your husband found out, that was your opportunity to kick this MM right out of your life. Because now, he is using your contact with him as a personal ego stroke. What are you getting out of this situation? What do you think will happen when your husband finds out that you still contact this other guy? If your marriage is loveless, why didn't you use the DDay to leave the marriage? Why didn't you want your husband to know the full truth of your interaction with this MM? You're likely going to have to confront some difficult beliefs you have in order to figure out why you "can't" stop yourself from contacting this guy. But this is the path to freedom. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kick_theleaves Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Hi there, welcome. I'm sorry you're suffering. I am in quite a similar situation to yourself, 2 year affair with a mutual friend. It sounds like this guy is showing you who he really is. Look at his actions, not his words. What would you have done if the tables had been turned? If it was his wife who found some texts and he'd given you the heads up, would you have dropped him and then tried to blame it all on him? I bet you wouldn't have. He doesn't value you as much as you value him. And I think at this moment you don't value yourself much either. I'm not saying this to be hurtful, only because I am going through something quite similar and I'm struggling too. Before you can really let him go, you need to think about why you are willing to let someone treat you like that. You need to think about your own needs and pride. You DO have strength. You've just lost your way. You have to stop thinking of yourself as powerless. Once you realise you have choices, you are one step closer to making the right one. Keep posting, we all get it. Edited December 11, 2017 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Paragraphs 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author shypapaya67 Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 Ugh was doing good with NC. Been about a month and a half since I broke it last.. yesterday was a trigger day though as I kept thinking back to last thanksgiving- the in between texts all that day with him. I gave in and texted him. Kept it very quick - just wished him a happy thanksgiving and hoped all was well. That was it. I did get a response saying happy thanksgiving to me too and that was the end of it. Yup I feel worse now again. I'm such a stupid as#. ? Link to post Share on other sites
Art Vandelay Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Don't beat yourself up over it; it's a difficult thing to maintain and a lot of people cave. The best you can do now is restart and learn from your mistake. Remember, it's the ONLY way to heal. You'll never be able to move forward in your life if you do limited contact. Happy TG and good luck. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Physx Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I read a really great article about this type of situation. The reason I was looking into it? My dumb@ss did the same thing. Though my reasons were different, it was nonetheless a bad idea, just like yours. However, rather than beat yourself over it, use it as a learning experience. The article made an excellent point in using the pain contacting them caused you as a lesson on your part. No good came of it. You hurt yourself more by doing so. You probably feel ashamed, humiliated, hurt, etc. Now that you've experienced it, you realize what it's like to stick your hand on that stove. DO NOT forget this experience and the pain it has caused you down the road. Keeping this in mind later on will hopefully help deter you should you have a point of weakness again. Also, don't go beating yourself up too much over this mistake. It happens. The important thing is you learn from it. I wish you luck in this process. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author shypapaya67 Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 Yet another setback in my "recovery" getting over/moving on... had to spend a couple hours with MOM and out spouses for a get together. I think I did pretty good for myself but am sooo down today. Sucks. I tried not to look to much directly at him and kept myself neutral, pleasant and in a good mood at the time. Sucked he obviously totally uphased or a care in the world about it or me.... Link to post Share on other sites
William Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Noting three threads running on what is apparently the same affair, per policy moderation merged those threads into one discussion and please continue the discussion on the affair/relationship issue in this thread. I'll also do some editing for duplicate content and to add paragraphs. Thanks and please continue! Link to post Share on other sites
Author shypapaya67 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Yet another setback in my "recovery" getting over/moving on... had to spend a couple hours with MOM and out spouses for a get together. I think I did pretty good for myself but am sooo down today. Sucks. I tried not to look to much directly at him and kept myself neutral, pleasant and in a good mood at the time. Sucked he obviously totally uphased or a care in the world about it or me.... UGH!!!! what is wrong with me. I texted again today.. Dam. again was just a quick small talk thing which he replied to the subject of the small talk and then that was it. When will I get it through my thick head to let go!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
burnt Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 When will I get it through my thick head to let go!!!! Anger maybe one possible tool to use to let go of him. Force yourself to make a list of all the horrible awful and cruel things he did to you. Write with details and force yourself to read over and over again. You are hooked onto him like a drug addict--as typically is the case in affairs. You have to force your eyes to see the "bad" side of the MM enough times to wipe out delusional "good" side of him. He didn't think a split second before tossing you out like a disposable rubbish when your husband confronted him. He didn't just deny the affair, he claimed that you are the crazy one chasing him while is the ABSOLUTE innocent one. Why not give him a taste of his own medicine? Do you have all the correspondence between you two--all the lovely good morning and good night and in between messages? Send them to the wife. Call it fair share--call it vengeance--the name is irrelevant. By doing so, it may help you. Will it get ugly? Most likely yes--but that's exactly what you need to see--you need to see his ugly real nature exposed so loud and clear that it's his ugliness that helps you detach from this addiction. He is a despicable character; he is using you and disposing of you when it suits him. I know most people advise against exposing the MM--I think you should. Your affair is already exposed to your husband; in his eyes you are already a cheater --not only that your MM put all of it on you while he is walking around like sweet innocent child in front of his wife. Let his wife know all the details. If nothing else he will look small in his wife's eyes--as he deserves to. The longer his and your secrets are kept as secrets, a part of you will want to keep it going secretly and will want to lean to him to confide in him. Expose him. Once the secrets are all out, you will be less inclined to turn to him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author shypapaya67 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Thanks. I have no desire to tell his wife - that's not me. But I do like the list of bad about him to try to take over my brain I think I keep going back to the thoughts like how can he be not having a care in the world about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Author shypapaya67 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Guess what? Yup I just failed NC and feel the worst yet. Update since December was he reached out to me at Christmas to wish me a merry Christmas . A few texts where exchanged back and forth over the next week until right after New Years. I saw him for a little bit at a group social event then and after that I haven't heard from him since. I told myself I wasn't going to contact and I didn't - until today. Sent him a text just saying hi and seeing how things were and nothing- no response at all. I am miserable. A punch in the stomach feeling. Holding back tears. It's my fault I know but I just couldn't help myself. Even after reading all the recent posts about NC here I am a hypocrite and fail. This has gotta be the worst I've felt after breaking NC though. Maybe because this puts the nail in the coffin so to speak. My brain and heart ar reeling . Going to be a long night. Link to post Share on other sites
CantTakeMySmile Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 What is the longest you have gone NC? Link to post Share on other sites
CrushingHope Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Your story, although very different from mine, brings us to a similar place and the way you're feeling has been me with a man on many occasions over the last year and a half. We dated after he broke up with someone, he ended it with me to go back to her. Within a few weeks he started texting me and ultimately ended it with her to come back to me. Then went back to her. That was Oct '16. For the next 8 months I was where you are right now. I would text and either get a cold response "you have to move on" or a very hopeful response "i miss you more than I can even understand. You flipped my life upside down. You have changed how I see myself and the world and I'm not happy where I am"....always giving me hope but never following through. And every time I texted him, I didn't feel better, I felt worse...even when he said "good" things because I realized that hope wasn't serving me. Until he left her for good, hope was not my friend. And he clearly wasn't leaving. 4 months later (since Nov '17) we were in contact again and he has said every possible thing I could ever want to hear....and sent me presents for xmas, a beautiful card that said everything I always wanted to hear him say...empty promises, as he is still with her and is "confused" now and "can't give me what I want yet". My point is that every single time I am in touch with him, it brings me to an even worse place because not only have I opened all of the old wounds, but I have added a new, fresh, bleeding cut that I have to add onto my healing. It's torture. I am trying to do no contact. I was good for a week. And then I texted "how are you" and he responded, we had a little chat about work etc but nothing real and then that was it. And then I felt stupid for reaching out. Try to keep in mind that you have enough wounds to heal. Don't open up any fresh ones. He is not the be all and end all to your happiness....if he was, he wouldn't have thrown you under the bus, and would be in touch and things would be happening. I feel your pain so much. I hope things get better. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
malvern99 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 OP, are you devastated because you broke NC, or because AP has not responded? Link to post Share on other sites
Author shypapaya67 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Honestly both. But only feel horrible about breaking NC after the no response. I think the longest no contact was maybe 2 months. Link to post Share on other sites
CantTakeMySmile Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Two months? That is great. How did you feel then? What is your end goal? Link to post Share on other sites
BigBlueSky Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Don't be too hard on yourself. I'm sorry you are hurting. I've been there too. I know there is such a pull to break NC. Just know that his non- response is ultimately for your own good and his too. You'll get through it. Be strong and keep working on yourself. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
CantTakeMySmile Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I think the hardest part of NC after some time has passed is the not "WANTING" to get over it. For me, it is being scared to actually start feeling better. "Maybe that means I didn't love her the way my heart tells me" "Maybe if I am feelings better, and I love her this much, then maybe she is just over it, because she obviously didn't love me the way I loved her..." "Maybe my window of opportunity is closing..." these are thoughts that haunt me.... But thoughts I have to control... I can try to control my thoughts, but not my feelings yet.... once I can get those thoughts in check, and realize they don't really MEAN anything, then hopefully, my feelings will change too. One thing at a time I guess. Keep on keeping on... and like my dad always told me.. "If you don't know what to do, do nothing". This has kept me from reaching out many times. One more thing about NC that I have learned is that it is not just flipping the calendar. It is about moving through it. THe first time I was NC, I just flipped the days, and still felt bad... you have to FEEL and Ask those hard questions, and most of all, you have to stop worrying about WHY and accept what IS. Sorry to hijack... just sharing my experiences.. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
CrushingHope Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 One more thing about NC that I have learned is that it is not just flipping the calendar. It is about moving through it. THe first time I was NC, I just flipped the days, and still felt bad... you have to FEEL and Ask those hard questions, and most of all, you have to stop worrying about WHY and accept what IS. Thank you for this. I need to keep telling myself this....forget the WHY, accept what IS. That's so important. Thank you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WorldInMyEyes Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Guess what? Yup I just failed NC and feel the worst yet. Update since December was he reached out to me at Christmas to wish me a merry Christmas . A few texts where exchanged back and forth over the next week until right after New Years. I saw him for a little bit at a group social event then and after that I haven't heard from him since. I told myself I wasn't going to contact and I didn't - until today. Sent him a text just saying hi and seeing how things were and nothing- no response at all. I am miserable. A punch in the stomach feeling. Holding back tears. It's my fault I know but I just couldn't help myself. Even after reading all the recent posts about NC here I am a hypocrite and fail. This has gotta be the worst I've felt after breaking NC though. Maybe because this puts the nail in the coffin so to speak. My brain and heart ar reeling . Going to be a long night. Is marijuana legal in your state? It's a wonderful coping mechanism for nights like these. I've been in your shoes before, and it really helps. Link to post Share on other sites
Author shypapaya67 Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 Two months? That is great. How did you feel then? What is your end goal? Canttakemysmile- my end goal is to get over him and forget him. Which unfortunately will be hard to do where he has s still somewhat in a circle of aquaintences. I try to avoid as much as I can but still see him around now and then Link to post Share on other sites
Author shypapaya67 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Ha - was going to come post on how good I've been doing since my last failure only to realize it's only been a couple of weeks !!! Ugh. Feels like so much Longer! So never heard back from him at all and have not caved. Think I'm finally making progress with my feelings. Anger has kicked in. As I keep thinking you know what a#%*hole? I have feelings. And how many times will I allow him to hurt them. He is such a jerk ( putting it nicely) and doesn't give 2 ****s about anyone but himself. Fog is clearing for me and I am seeing this now. As long as I don't see him I think this might be a huge step for me. Reading through posts I saw this .... . oIn another forum the saying is: No new contact means no new hurts. I suggest you consider this and avoid contact with him. What's in it for you? He loves the ego stroke that some lovely young lady is enamored of him even though he's recently married to another. Don't stroke his ego. If you must attend any sociL events where he is, make sure he's with his wife when you speak with him. Cordial but distant. He isn't anybody special in your life. Never consider how he feels. ----------- Spot on! I'm going to read this over and over! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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