JS17 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I was just wondering if you were looking for support or help of some kind but now it's clear you were only here to bash this guy. Yeah, what he did was wrong and he is clearly out of control but you sound pretty out of control yourself. What if this is the only place where he would have listened to someone that might have suggested therapy, well you just threw that out the window. It's really not our place here to judge, just to try to help but damn, I don't feel bad for any of you. The only person I feel bad for is this man's wife and unborn child. I hope he gets some serious psychological help for their sake and while we're at it, maybe the rest of you should too. Link to post Share on other sites
LauraBancroft Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I was just wondering if you were looking for support or help of some kind but now it's clear you were only here to bash this guy. Yeah, what he did was wrong and he is clearly out of control but you sound pretty out of control yourself. What if this is the only place where he would have listened to someone that might have suggested therapy, well you just threw that out the window. It's really not our place here to judge, just to try to help but damn, I don't feel bad for any of you. The only person I feel bad for is this man's wife and unborn child. I hope he gets some serious psychological help for their sake and while we're at it, maybe the rest of you should too. I am not here to bash him. There are two sides to every post here. There is his side and then there is my friend's side and right now things have taken a turn for the worst. The guy went to my friend's home and threw a rock at her truck window and knocked it out. The cops are over there right now, so excuse me while I head over and find out what is going on, my friend sounded hysterical on the phone. From what I understand his wife is over there now too since she called her and told her what happened. She had no choice. So excuse me. I'll be leaving now. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I am not here to bash him. There are two sides to every post here. There is his side and then there is my friend's side and right now things have taken a turn for the worst. The guy went to my friend's home and threw a rock at her truck window and knocked it out. The cops are over there right now, so excuse me while I head over and find out what is going on, my friend sounded hysterical on the phone. From what I understand his wife is over there now too since she called her and told her what happened. She had no choice. So excuse me. I'll be leaving now. Well, this is the chance people take when having an affair. Crimes of passion, especially when they end and one isn't ready for it to end. Sadly his wife his paying for his fvked up mistakes and ofcourse this unborn INNOCENT child. Very sad. Link to post Share on other sites
JPMorgan Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 He did not come here for support. If anyone remembers his other thread he asked - repeatedly for ALL opinions and suggestions and INVITED harshness -- then when he got it he turned around and started bashing people and went on his own little tirade against the people giving him the advice he asked for! He was/is using this site to try and stay in contact with his OW and make sure that she knows he loves her. He should be supported all right, with a cop on either side leading him off to jail! Drama King he is Link to post Share on other sites
hotgurl Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 this thread should be renamed why not to ever cheat on your so. Link to post Share on other sites
TUDOR Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Hotgurl you got that right! Well the wife was told everything and had the cops escort her back to their house so he could get his stuff and get out. She kicked him out! JPMorgan was right when he found out about the LS he used it as a means of continuing to express his love and obsession with her. Some very bad choices where made here and I hope it does show as a shinning example of how affairs can end up ruining lives. The wife of confused is the real victim here. She did not deserve what she was handed. I am glad to see she was able to find out just what kind of man she was married to and given the opportunity to do what was best for her and her children. What a mess! As bazzair as these events may appear to be they are all to true. I hope those who continue to go outside their marriage will wise up and see that while you think no one will get hurt it can turn in to an real life Jerry Springer episode in a hurry. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Good post TUDOR. I agree with you and wow, do I feel horrible for his wife. This isn't something she should be dealing with at all! She should be happy and looking foward to what lays ahead with her baby...But now she has a mess to deal and cope with for a very long time. I said it before, and I'll say it again, I hope she has a support system of family and friends nearby as she is going to need them so much right now. Link to post Share on other sites
LauraBancroft Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Hotgurl you got that right! Well the wife was told everything and had the cops escort her back to their house so he could get his stuff and get out. She kicked him out! JPMorgan was right when he found out about the LS he used it as a means of continuing to express his love and obsession with her. Some very bad choices where made here and I hope it does show as a shinning example of how affairs can end up ruining lives. The wife of confused is the real victim here. She did not deserve what she was handed. I am glad to see she was able to find out just what kind of man she was married to and given the opportunity to do what was best for her and her children. What a mess! As bazzair as these events may appear to be they are all to true. I hope those who continue to go outside their marriage will wise up and see that while you think no one will get hurt it can turn in to an real life Jerry Springer episode in a hurry. Yes it is all true, I went over there while the cops were still there and what a mess. The cops made me leave but his wife was frantic. I feel so bad for his wife, but my best friend's husband didn't ask for all this either and neither did my best friend. She didn't know this guy was crazy. He did indeed use this forum as a means to stay in some form of contact with her. The cops did instruct my best friend to stay in doors for the next few days as since he has been stalking her and now that his wife has kicked him out, he has no job for a week, there is no doubt in my mind that he'll go on a drug binge and with his problems already it could become highly dangerous. Yes you're all right this is a prime example of why you do not become involved with someone else outside of your marriage. Does anyone need anymore of a reason than that? My best friend is also going down to file a restraining order on this guy and this guy better be thankful because if it wasn't for my best friend feeling sorry for his wife, she was crying and visibly shooken up, she would have pressed charges and sent this guy to jail. What a horrible situation! Link to post Share on other sites
ThumbingMyWay Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 what a train wreck.... Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 what a train wreck.... No Sh*t .. There is no good ending for this mess.. Link to post Share on other sites
ThumbingMyWay Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 No Sh*t .. There is no good ending for this mess.. CHEATERS NEVER WIN!!! Link to post Share on other sites
pvtpylot Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I feel so bad for his wife, but my best friend's husband didn't ask for all this either and neither did my best friend.Your best friend did too ask for this, even if she didn't know all of what she was going to get. She is not a victim in this sorry play and I have no sympathy for her at all. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Your best friend did too ask for this, even if she didn't know all of what she was going to get. She is not a victim in this sorry play and I have no sympathy for her at all. That expression, ya play with the bull, eventually ya get the horn... Comes to mind right about now. Link to post Share on other sites
TheDiva Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 JPMorgan was right when he found out about the LS he used it as a means of continuing to express his love and obsession with her. I feel so used........... and dirty..... gonna take a shower now. Link to post Share on other sites
LauraBancroft Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Your best friend did too ask for this, even if she didn't know all of what she was going to get. She is not a victim in this sorry play and I have no sympathy for her at all. I didn't ask you to give her sympathy! I said she didn't deserve his psychotic episodes. And she didn't. She's holding up pretty well and she and his wife have been talking off and on all day. The wife doesn't hold any grudges against my best friend. So yeah anyhow, no one deserve this stuff! So pardon me while we disagree. Link to post Share on other sites
pvtpylot Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I didn't ask you to give her sympathy! I said she didn't deserve his psychotic episodes.Yeah, I know you didn't ask. You don't mind if I post my opinion anyways, right? IMO, your friend volunteered for this and she deserves whatever she gets. Link to post Share on other sites
LauraBancroft Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Yeah, I know you didn't ask. You don't mind if I post my opinion anyways, right? IMO, your friend volunteered for this and she deserves whatever she gets. Yes and I spose if she was murdered by this freak that she would deserve that too right? Hah! Give me a break! Link to post Share on other sites
JPMorgan Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Wow. This is pretty sad. Someone mentioned CMM's wife has children -- how many kids does she (they) have? Has she had the other baby yet, or was that whole thing a fabrication? Last post from CMM was that she was in active labor! IMO It's not so much a quesiton of who deserves what. The spouses of the cheaters are the least 'deserving' of any pain from this - but they got it anyway. The cheaters involved may 'deserve' to be hurt for what they have done, but no one deserves to have a violent stalker threaten them repeatedly. If I were in the situation as it has been written here I think I would have pressed charges to get the guy locked up -- even if it was more stressful on his wife. I'd rather everyone have a little peace of safety than be in so much pain AND afraid of a loose cannon walking the street. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Right now, if there is any update I would like to know. Not about your bestfriend or ConfusedMM, honestly, I don't feel too sorry for either of them as the price of their affair is being felt..My only concern and interest now is how ConfusedMM's wife is. Her welfare, health and the upcoming baby should be everybody's concern right now. I do hope Confused stays away from OW, and I hope OW gets a restraining order and now both of them MUST move on and put this behind them and not ever look back. Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I'm hoping his W has someone safe to go, and has a good support system to help her through this time. It sounds like she is going to be better off without him in her life (if indeed she doesn't let him back in). ConfusedMM will have to make some SERIOUS changes and adjustments before he is ready to be a positive influence in his W or C's life, from the sounds of it. As for OW, I'm glad she found her way out of it. Link to post Share on other sites
New_Wife Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 HOLY CRAP! That poor wife and baby! LB, I hope your friend learned something from all of this. I'm not trashing her or saying she deserved a wacko-stalker, but I think it illustrates very well how one bad act will spiral into a great many more. My question to you is - why are you so involved in this triangle/quad? I realize that she's your best friend - but where were you when she was diving head first into this mess? As her best friend, I hope you counseled her on the ill-advised move she was making in abandoning her marriage vows. Link to post Share on other sites
LauraBancroft Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 HOLY CRAP! That poor wife and baby! LB, I hope your friend learned something from all of this. I'm not trashing her or saying she deserved a wacko-stalker, but I think it illustrates very well how one bad act will spiral into a great many more. My question to you is - why are you so involved in this triangle/quad? I realize that she's your best friend - but where were you when she was diving head first into this mess? As her best friend, I hope you counseled her on the ill-advised move she was making in abandoning her marriage vows. I did. I told her many times as well as Tudor did that this guy was trouble. I told her so many times not to do it, but I am a friend. Meaning that when someone wants to do something you can not stop them! Period! She isn't a child and therefor I couldn't very well punish her or put her in time out. She had decisions to make and even though I made very good arguments she chose to do what she did and now she is paying for it. Which is sad but I guess when you don't heed warning and caution this is what happens, although no one, not even me, could see that he is as psycho as he is. Now it is a wait and see process. I am so involved because I was with her a lot when she did see him. I am like a sister to her and even though she did take my advice and never bit back at me for being harsh with her, she still chose to do what she did. I don't think she'll ever do this again. This was a bit much for her. As for his wife, well she and my best friend, as odd as this sounds, have become friends. They have been talking off and on every few hours. As far as I know she is doing well and waiting to have her child now. All her family are with her at her house as far as I know. It is truly a mess. Link to post Share on other sites
Debster Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 So do you mean to tell me that there are really two different women who posted at Loveshack with this many similarities: - Both the MM and the “female poster” were married - The MM worked in management at a retail store - The MM and “female poster” met at the store the MM worked at - The MM used to leave work to fool around with the “female poster” - The MM was 35 and the “female poster” was in her early 30s - The wife of the MM was in the early 20s - The MM’s wife was pregnant and due in late summer/early fall - The MM cheated on his first wife with a co-worker - The MM is having trouble moving on (to say the least!) - When SweetSerenity stopped posting, Confused MM started posting. Wow, talk about a coincidence!!! Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 As for his wife, well she and my best friend, as odd as this sounds, have become friends. They have been talking off and on every few hours. As far as I know she is doing well and waiting to have her child now. All her family are with her at her house as far as I know. It is truly a mess. No, they are not friends. Trust me, once the shock wears off and the focus is taken off her husband the wife WILL realize that your friend is not her friend. Please I really hope you both stay out of this woman's life once this settles down. I'm sure your intent is good but I highly doubt a friendship will form from this. The OW will be a constant reminder of her husband's affair. ConfusedMM's wife has her family and close friends. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 WWIU, No one can say for certainty if they will become friends or not. I've seen it happen before so to say they will not become friends is an immature judgement. I could care less one way or the other if they do or not. It's a mess to be sure of! Now it's time to move on. It's not an immature judgement at all, from where I sit, right now ConfusedMM's wife needs certain information and your bestfriend is giving it to her. Sorry, but that is not friendship, plain and simple. Link to post Share on other sites
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