Love handles. I surely don't love them..

[thefooloftheyear]

Worked out (weights), ate protein rich foods the whole day (since yesterday actually, but it was easier than today) and already having insane food cravings. I'm laying in bed thinking about food. How to make this sustainable? Trying to eat small portions every hour, cottage cheese, berries, nuts, had a little bit of cooked potatoe with tofu. I'd die for a huge bowl of spagetti with oily pesto and loads of cream cheese.

I will never be able to change my body

 

Hang in there....

 

Are you a vegan?

 

TFY

[lana-banana]

Worked out (weights), ate protein rich foods the whole day (since yesterday actually, but it was easier than today) and already having insane food cravings. I'm laying in bed thinking about food. How to make this sustainable? Trying to eat small portions every hour, cottage cheese, berries, nuts, had a little bit of cooked potatoe with tofu. I'd die for a huge bowl of spagetti with oily pesto and loads of cream cheese.

I will never be able to change my body

 

How many calories are you eating per day?

[SunnyWeather]

Worked out (weights), ate protein rich foods the whole day (since yesterday actually, but it was easier than today) and already having insane food cravings. I'm laying in bed thinking about food. How to make this sustainable? Trying to eat small portions every hour, cottage cheese, berries, nuts, had a little bit of cooked potatoe with tofu. I'd die for a huge bowl of spagetti with oily pesto and loads of cream cheese.

I will never be able to change my body

 

 

IT'S ABOUT THE CARBS, NOT CALORIES!

 

I mentioned this pages ago. everything you are pointing to suggests you're insulin resistant. Educate yourself on a new way of eating to heal your metabolism. (ketogenic)

 

best to you

Edited August 11, 2018 by SunnyWeather

[Lorenza]

IT'S ABOUT THE CARBS, NOT CALORIES!

 

I mentioned this pages ago. everything you are pointing to suggests you're insulin resistant. Educate yourself on a new way of eating to heal your metabolism. (ketogenic)

 

best to you

 

Sorry but everyone says different things. How am I supposed to know which one is correct if everyone thinks they're correct while claiming conflicting things. :/

 

Seems like the ketogenic diet is focusing on meat and fish, and I already said I'm vegetarian (with a couple of times during the year when I eat fish, and it's mostly because I travel back to my home country which just isn't a good place for vegetarians). The recommended vegetables in keto diet seems to be broccoli, califlower, cabbage and those make me horribly bloated. I mean farting and burping and pregnant looking stomach for at least two days after eating them. Zucchini isn't very well tolerated by my tomach either, not sure why. Avocados is a huge part in my diet already, so those work fine. High fat dairy, nuts and berries are already a huge part of my diet.

 

So as I see it, it is impossible to follow a certain diet with a complete dedication. Some products fit, others don't.

I do eat a lot of supposedly healthy fats - high quality coconut oil, olive oil, avocado, Greek yoghurt, nuts etc. It is absolutely unclear to me what to follow anymore. The info is so conflicting. And jeezus Christ am I hungry rn

[Lorenza]

How many calories are you eating per day?

 

Yesterday was around 1500 today around 1700 cause I did weight training. I am used to eating 2000-2200 (2200 on the tough days with a lot of mental and physical stress)

[Lorenza]

Btw I weighed myself today. I do not weight 65 kg. I weigh 63,5

[SunnyWeather]

Sorry but everyone says different things. How am I supposed to know which one is correct if everyone thinks they're correct while claiming conflicting things. :/

 

 

You have to find what works for YOU. every body is different. Women have other hormonal aspects that play a role that goes beyond the standard calories in energy expending ratio. Keto can absolutely be done as a vegetarian, vegan not so much.

 

Research, find what works. There's a long learning curve to find a way of eating that works for you. Maybe paleo might be better...

 

The thing about Keto is the concept of switching your body's fuel burning system from running on sugar to running on fat (in the most basic terms). When doing low carb, one ups their fat intake (moderate protein), and one is more satiated and less hungry. But, getting to that point takes time and everyone is different.

 

There is a lot of info on this that explains it so much better than I am. And recipes and forums.

 

Happy researching! cheers

[lana-banana]

There's a saying that it takes four weeks of training and proper eating for you to start feeling different, six weeks before you notice you look different, and eight weeks before other people notice you look different. Whether that's accurate is anyone's guess, but it's true that real progress is slow. Your body isn't going to change overnight. But if you eat at a mild/moderate deficit for a couple months, you WILL notice a difference eventually.

 

Eating every hour sounds a bit excessive to me, but if it's working to you and you're keeping your calories at the right level, then it's fine. Not everything is going to work for you. We're all different, and a lot of the weight loss broscience out there is aimed towards men, who tend to be a lot more tolerant of extreme diets than women.

[Lorenza]

You have to find what works for YOU. every body is different. Women have other hormonal aspects that play a role that goes beyond the standard calories in energy expending ratio. Keto can absolutely be done as a vegetarian, vegan not so much.

 

Research, find what works. There's a long learning curve to find a way of eating that works for you. Maybe paleo might be better...

 

The thing about Keto is the concept of switching your body's fuel burning system from running on sugar to running on fat (in the most basic terms). When doing low carb, one ups their fat intake (moderate protein), and one is more satiated and less hungry. But, getting to that point takes time and everyone is different.

 

There is a lot of info on this that explains it so much better than I am. And recipes and forums.

 

Happy researching! cheers

 

Interesting. Thanks, I will read about it. Was always so sure body runs on carbs and carbs alone.

There are also high carb low fat diets with many people who swear on it, and some doctors too. But intuitively I lean to more fatty foods, so I didn't try hclf for too long.

[Lorenza]

There's a saying that it takes four weeks of training and proper eating for you to start feeling different, six weeks before you notice you look different, and eight weeks before other people notice you look different. Whether that's accurate is anyone's guess, but it's true that real progress is slow. Your body isn't going to change overnight. But if you eat at a mild/moderate deficit for a couple months, you WILL notice a difference eventually.

 

Eating every hour sounds a bit excessive to me, but if it's working to you and you're keeping your calories at the right level, then it's fine. Not everything is going to work for you. We're all different, and a lot of the weight loss broscience out there is aimed towards men, who tend to be a lot more tolerant of extreme diets than women.

 

Oh yes, of course. I don't expect any visible change any time soon. It's just that the first days are tough, with the hunger and all that, it feels like I end up stuffing my face with all the calories I denied myself these two days (but I will make sure I won't!). I got this from my dad, we both depend on food and will feel horrible after going just one day without the regular amount. My dad is not overweight at all, but he's got a gut. Mom is skinnier than an average 50 something , but her shape is also love-handly and flabby.

It's a bit genetical. In my family everyone is skinny-fat

[Interstellar]

And guys, I know everyone says it's beneficial to drink tons of water, but what about it flushing out all the minerals? And how do you deal with the constant need to pee? I've read somewhere that if you pee way more than normal, it's already too much water. What do you think?

Oh, and yes, it's humid as hell here, haven't thought it might add to bloating.

 

I used to subscribe to drinking a lot of water but a strength and conditioning I know says to just drink when you’re thirsty otherwise your body will just keep getting rid of the excess amount and that’s true, I find that it just interrupts my sleep, and when I’m at work...some people can drink a gallon and not ever go to the bathroom ever so that works for them.

 

If I’m going to have chocolate, cookies, spaghetti, hamburgers, pizza etc...I will try to have it early in the day. Morning, noon. I use the carbs to fuel my day, then later on just focus on protein, salads.

Edited August 13, 2018 by Interstellar

[MaleIntuition]

If you want long term effect, heavy resistance training should be your first priority. In theory you can eat at maintenance and do what’s sometimes refered to as an “recomp”.

 

Make sure to gain enough proteins. 1,5 - 2,0 g/kg body weight is a good target.

 

Sure, you can cut away some fat - but that will just reduce the size of your love handles, and you can keep doing that until you are only bones. Unless you are going for the anorexia look I wouldn’t recommend it.

 

A nine month program could be to maintain and lift until mars, reassess and do a cut until summer.

[Lorenza]

So I went to the gym twice since I last posted, did only stretching and weights, no cardio. Did squats, not too heavy, around 20-30 kg, and my knees are in hell right now. I used to do squats some years ago, much heavier, until I started feeling knee pain and stopped. Didn't think it would come back.. I was shown by a PT how to squat correctly back then btw.

Any advice on that? The pain is located in those pits, kneecaps I think they're called?

What other exercises can one do instead of squats that wouldn't involve knee action?

[MaleIntuition]

You should probably see a physiotherapist about that... I wouldn’t be surprised if the solution is to try to strengthen the muscles even more around the knees, rehab-style. Starting with air-squat even.

 

A lot of lower body exercises involve knees one way or another. You could try deadlift and hip thrusts. Of course general core strengthening such as planks and ab-Rolers are always good and everything upper-body.

[lana-banana]

Glute bridges (with or without weight) and kettlebell swings are fairly easy on the knees and still help train your lower body. I agree with the above poster that you may want to spend some time working on your form and going without weights until you're ready. Try to take it slow and focus on driving the motion from your glutes, not your knees or back. Remember those are the largest muscles you have---warm them up and let them do the work.

[thefooloftheyear]

You can use knee wraps or compression sleeves....that will take the edge off...but here's the thing...

 

When it comes to weight training and most forms of exercise as well, you have to accept that there is going to be some pain and discomfort at times...Not to the point of real injury, but most people know the difference...If you have the thought that this should never cause any pain or discomfort ever, then it's just not reality...Especially as we age..

 

In most of these cases, rather than just give up doing it, increase your rest time for that movement, but stick it out for a while..You will find that in most cases, those little dings you are getting are merely a result of the muscle group not being strong or developed enough, so undue stress gets placed on joints and other inter connective tissues...Once they become stronger, then you usually will find that those pains you are getting are much less frequent..

 

.02

 

TFY

[Garlend]

I don't have "love handles".

 

I workout every other day using a combination CV/PR (free weights) training regimen known as circuit training. Burns calories and builds/maintains more real muscle mass than hypertrophy training, though positive results take longer.

 

I also eat several small nutritious meals each day. And walk, bicycle, whenever possible.

 

Everyone has a different genetic design, chemistry, natural build. So I'm only suggesting a lifestyle routine that has proven to work for me.

[Interstellar]

So I went to the gym twice since I last posted, did only stretching and weights, no cardio. Did squats, not too heavy, around 20-30 kg, and my knees are in hell right now. I used to do squats some years ago, much heavier, until I started feeling knee pain and stopped. Didn't think it would come back.. I was shown by a PT how to squat correctly back then btw.

Any advice on that? The pain is located in those pits, kneecaps I think they're called?

What other exercises can one do instead of squats that wouldn't involve knee action?

 

It could just be weak hamstrings. For that I would do Romanian deadlifts, and single leg deadlifts.

 

It’s normal to have some type of pain though especially when you’re just starting out. Such as going from zero gym to doing it on the regular. Try those movements and see how you feel after.

Edited August 17, 2018 by Interstellar

[Lorenza]

My knees are still very painful and I only been able to work out my upper body at the gym and very little bit of lower. I made an appointment with a physiotherapist and also had some blood work done yesterday to check my blood sugar. If it's high I might need to adopt the low carb diet and regular gym want it or not. My doctor said it's very bad for pcos women with insulin resistance (and all pcos women have it to different extents) to gain weight around belly and waist area.

 

Thanks guys for advices, they've been awesome

[hotpotato]

So I went to the gym twice since I last posted, did only stretching and weights, no cardio. Did squats, not too heavy, around 20-30 kg, and my knees are in hell right now. I used to do squats some years ago, much heavier, until I started feeling knee pain and stopped. Didn't think it would come back.. I was shown by a PT how to squat correctly back then btw.

Any advice on that? The pain is located in those pits, kneecaps I think they're called?

What other exercises can one do instead of squats that wouldn't involve knee action?

I like the hip abductor. I lean forward then move my legs apart. This has been relatively easy on my knees. I can do this even if my knees ache.

There are a lot of demos of this on youtube and instagram.

Maybe try the dip assist machine, if your gym has one. Put your foot on the padding and move it down. Sorry, if my language isn't very clear!

I also like deadlifts with kettlebells. Experiment with how low you go.

 

I don't have "love handles".

 

I workout every other day using a combination CV/PR (free weights) training regimen known as circuit training. Burns calories and builds/maintains more real muscle mass than hypertrophy training, though positive results take longer.

 

I also eat several small nutritious meals each day. And walk, bicycle, whenever possible.

 

Everyone has a different genetic design, chemistry, natural build. So I'm only suggesting a lifestyle routine that has proven to work for me.

Well, that's you. Some people have lovehandles no matter what.

Between walking, biking, gym, ballet, and figure skating and dieting I've always had a thick mid section. The only thing that made my lovehandles kind of go away was extreme calorie restriction plus exercise. I never had ab definition no matter how little i ate, exercise, how much weight I lost. Fat stomachs run in my family. I also messed up a knee on my quest for a booty.

[No_Go]

The knee pain is VERY weird. Unless you're completely sedentary otherwise can't believe it is a normal side effect of your workout. Let see what the physiotherapist says but it is probably an issue to take care of...

 

If you are doing blood work, maybe check your thyroid hormones too.

 

 

My knees are still very painful and I only been able to work out my upper body at the gym and very little bit of lower. I made an appointment with a physiotherapist and also had some blood work done yesterday to check my blood sugar. If it's high I might need to adopt the low carb diet and regular gym want it or not. My doctor said it's very bad for pcos women with insulin resistance (and all pcos women have it to different extents) to gain weight around belly and waist area.

 

Thanks guys for advices, they've been awesome

[Lorenza]

I like the hip abductor. I lean forward then move my legs apart. This has been relatively easy on my knees. I can do this even if my knees ache.

There are a lot of demos of this on youtube and instagram.

Maybe try the dip assist machine, if your gym has one. Put your foot on the padding and move it down. Sorry, if my language isn't very clear!

I also like deadlifts with kettlebells. Experiment with how low you go.

 

 

Well, that's you. Some people have lovehandles no matter what.

Between walking, biking, gym, ballet, and figure skating and dieting I've always had a thick mid section. The only thing that made my lovehandles kind of go away was extreme calorie restriction plus exercise. I never had ab definition no matter how little i ate, exercise, how much weight I lost. Fat stomachs run in my family. I also messed up a knee on my quest for a booty.

 

Thanks, I've tried cable hip abduction today, since there is no regular hip abductor at my gym and deadlifts with kettlebells among other things (although I must admit I don't feel much in my glutes doing those).

 

Yeah exactly, lovehandles must be somewhat genetic as well, I've observed that women in my family aren't overweight but they usually have guitar shaped figures

[Lorenza]

The knee pain is VERY weird. Unless you're completely sedentary otherwise can't believe it is a normal side effect of your workout. Let see what the physiotherapist says but it is probably an issue to take care of...

 

If you are doing blood work, maybe check your thyroid hormones too.

 

I walk a lot every single day, so I'm not completely sedentary for sure. I spend minimum 40 - 60 min walking everyday, usually more.

But my knee still hurts, especially after the latest gym session although I have completely taken away any pressure from them. Will just have to wait for the appointment next week :/

[hotpotato]

Thanks, I've tried cable hip abduction today, since there is no regular hip abductor at my gym and deadlifts with kettlebells among other things (although I must admit I don't feel much in my glutes doing those).

 

Yeah exactly, lovehandles must be somewhat genetic as well, I've observed that women in my family aren't overweight but they usually have guitar shaped figures

 

Sometimes I have to go a bit lower when I bend down to feel it in my glutes.

Mariza Villarreal, Lysabeth Lopez, & Kathy Drayton have glutes exercises on their channels.

 

If your female family members have love handles, then that's definitely your body shape. If you lose weight, you'll most likely keep that shape.

[Lorenza]

Sometimes I have to go a bit lower when I bend down to feel it in my glutes.

Mariza Villarreal, Lysabeth Lopez, & Kathy Drayton have glutes exercises on their channels.

 

If your female family members have love handles, then that's definitely your body shape. If you lose weight, you'll most likely keep that shape.

 

But I didn't have that much before. I'd accept the shape, but recently I've been really gaining weight there and my clothes don't fit anymore. I'd be ok with the guitar shape but just leaner overall and without those hams hanging out of my jeans