Desesperado Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 To me the only problem I have with some good reasonable women, is that most still do not denounce the vindictive or lying ones and I don't understand, because you always hear how men should help women on this matter of harrassment, but then when women missbehave they turn their heads the other way... To me not denouncing bad stuff is being as guilty as perpetrating, that's why those Hollywood clowns I don't take seriously, they are all screwed up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 To me the only problem I have with some good reasonable women, is that most still do not denounce the vindictive or lying ones and I don't understand, because you always hear how men should help women on this matter of harrassment, but then when women missbehave they turn their heads the other way... To me not denouncing bad stuff is being as guilty as perpetrating, that's why those Hollywood clowns I don't take seriously, they are all screwed up. I don't see the type of behaviour you're talking about. If you're talking about famous people, I gave up watching the type of news which is marketed to the uneducated masses years ago because it's pure trash. The stuff you speak about is probably on Twitter too, but that's just an echo chamber of outrage and so I don't go there either. While I am a feminist, I don't follow feminist media on FB because again, too much of it is outrage. Nobody on my FB feed shares the types of events you may be talking about. In terms of women in real life who's been vindictive or lying to get a man in trouble, I did know a woman in the 1980's who reported her ex for assault. Charges were dropped. But he was also a psychopath who later threw a molotov cocktail at a the occupied house of someone he disliked, so I have no idea where the truth lies on that one. She may have lied, she may not have. I just stayed away from it all. While I can't denounce what I don't see, I think that refusing to participate in the sharing of outrage media has it's place too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Asia Argento is the kind of woman who will use somewhat dishonest allegations against a man to gain attention, money and/or power for herself. indeed...I don't know what Anthony bourdain was doing with her, she must have given great head or something Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My ex made false accusations against me and while I will never say I am perfect I am in no way violent. Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My ex made false accusations against me and while I will never say I am perfect I am in no way violent. If a girlfriend did that to an ex out of spite, I would start by telling her that she was wrong in what she was doing. And if she didn't stop, I would end the friendship. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 If a girlfriend did that to an ex out of spite, I would start by telling her that she was wrong in what she was doing. And if she didn't stop, I would end the friendship. That is because you have integrity and morals but many people of both genders don't. The ironic thing is all the violence in that relationship was at her hands and she has been arrested a couple times for being violent towards other men so it was some serious projecting on her part. Link to post Share on other sites
JuneL Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 That is because you have integrity and morals but many people of both genders don't. The ironic thing is all the violence in that relationship was at her hands and she has been arrested a couple times for being violent towards other men so it was some serious projecting on her part. I assume she couldn’t press charges as there was no evidence. Did your friends believe her? Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 That is because you have integrity and morals but many people of both genders don't. The ironic thing is all the violence in that relationship was at her hands and she has been arrested a couple times for being violent towards other men so it was some serious projecting on her part. After reading your history, it certainly goes a lot way towards explaining your concerns about false accusation. Nothing like experiencing it to make you super aware of what can go wrong. I'm so glad you have a good woman now. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I assume she couldn’t press charges as there was no evidence. Did your friends believe her? Most women in our circle sided with her until she showed her trues colors and one apologized to my face. She made the accusations after I refused to give her lifetime alimony after one year of marriage. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Desesperado Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) Most women in our circle sided with her until she showed her trues colors and one apologized to my face. She made the accusations after I refused to give her lifetime alimony after one year of marriage. That's again what I talked about and my problem with many women, they band together in some sort of feminine support entity, not questioning the slightest if the female could actually be wrong or lying. Honestly in your shoes I couldn't forgive this and wouldn't talk to these women anymore. It's too easy to apologize later, if they know you they should have given the benefit of the doubt, but it seems being faithful to the female cause is more important... Than treating people with dignity, shame ! If one male friend did bad **** like this, I would first have to refrain kicking his ass and I would denounce him, ending the friendship immediately ! Edited August 24, 2018 by Desesperado Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 That's again what I talked about and my problem with many women, they band together in some sort of feminine support entity, not questioning the slightest if the female could actually be wrong or lying. Honestly in your shoes I couldn't forgive this and wouldn't talk to these women anymore. It's too easy to apologize later, if they know you they should have given the benefit of the doubt, but it seems being faithful to the female cause is more important... Than treating people with dignity, shame ! If one male friend did bad **** like this, I would first have to refrain kicking his ass and I would denounce him, ending the friendship immediately ! I forgave because it isn't good to hold on to bitterness. Also she womaned up, looked me in the eye and said she was sorry which is more than the others did. Some of her friends still think I must have done something to drive her crazy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Desesperado Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) I forgave because it isn't good to hold on to bitterness. Also she womaned up, looked me in the eye and said she was sorry which is more than the others did. Some of her friends still think I must have done something to drive her crazy. You're wrong it's not about bitterness, just like the opposite of love isn't hate it's indifference. You can get over a situation and be at peace with and and not having to forgive the people, it's called letting go and detaching yourself from anger. I've cut people from my life without bitterness, it's just that I cannot interact with people, who's standards let them cheat like this, no apology can heal the damages done, even if you aren't sad, angry or bitter anymore. Such people I don't hate, I don't give a f***, I just prefer interacting with people having boundaries and standards. Mistakes happen and can be forgiven, but lying isn't making a mistake it's choosing to cheat someone to usually gain something, it's deliberate and thought out. Remember your friends and people you see, also define a bit your life, they have an impact on it, so why interact with awful people !? Edited August 25, 2018 by Desesperado Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 You're wrong it's not about bitterness, just like the opposite of love isn't hate it's indifference. You can get over a situation and be at peace with and and not having to forgive the people, it's called letting go and detaching yourself from anger. I've cut people from my life without bitterness, it's just that I cannot interact with people, who's standards let them cheat like this, no apology can heal the damages done, even if you aren't sad, angry or bitter anymore. Such people I don't hate, I don't give a f***, I just prefer interacting with people having boundaries and standards. Mistakes happen and can be forgiven, but lying isn't making a mistake it's choosing to cheat someone to usually gain something, it's deliberate and thought out. Remember your friends and people you see, also define a bit your life, they have an impact on it, so why interact with awful people !? I am not buddies with her but at least she admitted sheas wrong which is more than most of these gender warriors do. That shows more maturity than many jezebel people. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PRW Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 I found these interesting, and they are pretty much what I think is happening in the world right now, and why I started this thread and commented in the other thread. The second one is a follow up to the first one although they don't explicitly call them "Part 1" and "Part2". Why Is Dating Becoming So Difficult? Why Many Men Are Hesitant To Approach Women Link to post Share on other sites
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