Now millennials are killing...the divorce rate

[Happy Lemming]

"Now millennials are killing...the divorce rate"

 

There is another problem here, as well. What will the Divorce attorneys do?? If they can't litigate and run up huge bills for their clients, what will become of them??

[Woggle]

"Now millennials are killing...the divorce rate"

 

There is another problem here, as well. What will the Divorce attorneys do?? If they can't litigate and run up huge bills for their clients, what will become of them??

 

Maybe they can move into some filthy mold infested hovel and live on beef a roni while their former spouse lives it up.

[preraph]

Yes, they are having more success with staying married because they are waiting until they are mature adults with established careers. Great!

[Fugu]

For all the crap that we talk about millennials, they're pretty smart. They actually SAVE money. They work - sometimes multiple jobs. They're self-reliant. They're stubborn and independent. I guess that's why Boomers and Gen-Xers clash with them, because we just do what we're told. We go by the book. Millennials are writing their own book. Good on them, I say.

[Mr. Lucky]

So when l hear this bs about how great it is for men well , yaknow, l mean wtf .

 

No one has said marriage is "great" for men. What's demonstrably true is that married men live longer than single men. Design your own narrative...

 

Mr. Lucky

[Chilli]

l was thinking about this today.

But remember too, they're also all over the net asking the most ridiculous child like questions about meeting someone or relationship, you ever heard, at 30.

Things l was just doing at 15 18 instinctively, they have to ask the world about now all over the internet.

Seen this exact thing come up in other forums and here too , they don't seem as developed , mature or something, or just naturally intuitive as we were.

It all makes sense , they've grown up in this fake online crazy media world of these days where everything is over done and over analyzed to death and they seem like they just don't know what to do without it.

 

So l wonder what the over all outcome will be in 50yrs time ?

Then again , marriage probably won't exist in 50 years time , ya think ?

A partner probably won't even exist they're probably all have robots.

Saw that prediction on some docco awhile back and l don't think it'd be too far from reality tbh.

[Woggle]

For all the crap that we talk about millennials, they're pretty smart. They actually SAVE money. They work - sometimes multiple jobs. They're self-reliant. They're stubborn and independent. I guess that's why Boomers and Gen-Xers clash with them, because we just do what we're told. We go by the book. Millennials are writing their own book. Good on them, I say.

 

Say what you want about Boomers now but in their day they really rebelled against the establishment. They might have sold out in the 1980s but they shook society to it's core.

 

Gen X ers are probably the most independent generation I have seen in my experience.

 

The previous mentioned groups certainly have better music, movies and art than millenials.

[PRW]

And if they divorce he'll probably lose most of what he worked for and have to pay her for years to come even if she's the one that went and screwed around .

And the list goes on and on and on.

 

l know all that sounds terrible and believe it or not l'd like to get married again l'm not really as negative as all that sounds about marriage myself but the thing is , that all that stuff and much more is often the real reality for men.

 

 

True. If the divorce laws didn't cater to women as they do the women would have more incentive to put more into the marriage than they do. The laws practically incentivize the woman to divorce so the marriage isn't that important to her,...so be lazy, let herself "go", divorce him and collect a payday. My mom has married twice, my dad was married seven times, I've seen it all, so I suggest the women who want to deny this stuff to me to just not waste their time.

[Chilli]

No one has said marriage is "great" for men. What's demonstrably true is that married men live longer than single men. Design your own narrative...

 

Mr. Lucky

 

 

Plenty of people have said marriage is great for men l've heard it 100s of times, just maybe not in this thread.

[Fugu]

Say what you want about Boomers now but in their day they really rebelled against the establishment. They might have sold out in the 1980s but they shook society to it's core.

 

Gen X ers are probably the most independent generation I have seen in my experience.

 

The previous mentioned groups certainly have better music, movies and art than millenials.

 

****, Woggs.

 

In the end, we're all a bunch of sellouts.

[Woggle]

****, Woggs.

 

In the end, we're all a bunch of sellouts.

 

True but the boomers went from open revolt and rebellion to Reagan loving conservatives. The same people who gave us sex, drugs and rock and roll ramped the war on drugs and formed the PMRC. Gen X also realized they had to grow up and earn a living but most of us have similar views to the ones we had back in the 90s.

[BC1980]

Marriage was already killed before millenials came of age. Also barely anybody is getting married at all Which I admit is better than high divorce rate.

 

I think single people outnumber married people now right? I only skimmed the study, but wouldn't you have to wait until millennials got as old as boomers and Gen Xers to see if they really divorce less? The disparity could simply be because millennials haven't been married as long, especially since they get married later in life. I might have missed the study addressing that though.

[carhill]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/national_marriage_divorce_rates_00-16.pdf

 

Excludes data from CA so that's huge

[BettyDraper]

I hate my generation and I am an older Millennial. I was born in the early 80s.

 

I think that most of us are spoiled and whiny to be point of absurdity.

Millennials want to be the CEO without working for it. We are horribly entitled. We are very picky about what jobs we have. Many of us would rather live with our parents well into our 30s than take any job in order to live as independent adults.

 

We have unrealistic expectations and that includes relationships. If a relationship is not perfect, a Millennial will often think nothing of ending it.

 

All of these are generalizations but you get the idea.

[No_Go]

I hate my generation and I am an older Millennial. I was born in the early 80s.

 

I think that most of us are spoiled and whiny to be point of absurdity.

Millennials want to be the CEO without working for it. We are horribly entitled. We are very picky about what jobs we have. Many of us would rather live with our parents well into our 30s than take any job in order to live as independent adults.

 

We have unrealistic expectations and that includes relationships. If a relationship is not perfect, a Millennial will often think nothing of ending it.

 

All of these are generalizations but you get the idea.

 

I so much agree with this - thanks for posting it!

 

Millennials are the most entitled generation in existence and I shamefully belong to it (but go above and beyond NOT to associate with people belonging to it).

 

Of course divorce rates are 'decreasing' - the typical millennial lives with mommy and daddy, and for the few and far in between that are married - it is a recent development, so the divorce boom (statistically peaking at 7-8 years of relationship length) is yet to come.

 

Simple numbers (with some approximations):

-millennials are born between 1981 and 1997, i.e. 21-37 years old

-typical marriage time is 30+, but lets approximate 30 for women, 32 for men

-typical marriage duration is 7-8 years - i.e. the time is yet to come even for the oldest millennials.

 

I bet Bloomberg will post for millennial divorce peak in around 2020-2025 It will be similar disinformation content, because divorce (and general relationship break) peaks at 7-8 years since decades

[No_Go]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/national_marriage_divorce_rates_00-16.pdf

 

Excludes data from CA so that's huge

 

Of course, typical bias:) The 'stay married' communities are the religious ones and Asian heritage ones that has nothing to do over there, so why not bias the data

[carhill]

I need to correct myself, the divorce data excludes California and a few other states. Marriage data only excludes two states, and only for certain years.

 

8.2/1000 in 2000 vs 6.9/1000 in 2016 so a drop but not as significant as I would have thought.

[No_Go]

I think single people outnumber married people now right? I only skimmed the study, but wouldn't you have to wait until millennials got as old as boomers and Gen Xers to see if they really divorce less? The disparity could simply be because millennials haven't been married as long, especially since they get married later in life. I might have missed the study addressing that though.

 

Exactly! Millennials are yet to divorce, let alone they dislike to marry anyway. But if we include common law marriages and cohabitations (de facto marriages) which generally happen in younger age, the numbers generally INCREASE, and will keep increasing.

 

The money argument is laughable too. Even since we can remember, wealth would go to wealth. If anything, unions by class are declining now, because media promotes 'luv' based marriages which happen 1 in million in real life. It is usually just a vehicle for raising kids, which what marriage is. Besides for passifying a nagging GF

[BettyDraper]

I so much agree with this - thanks for posting it!

 

Millennials are the most entitled generation in existence and I shamefully belong to it (but go above and beyond NOT to associate with people belonging to it).

 

Of course divorce rates are 'decreasing' - the typical millennial lives with mommy and daddy, and for the few and far in between that are married - it is a recent development, so the divorce boom (statistically peaking at 7-8 years of relationship length) is yet to come.

 

Simple numbers (with some approximations):

-millennials are born between 1981 and 1997, i.e. 21-37 years old

-typical marriage time is 30+, but lets approximate 30 for women, 32 for men

-typical marriage duration is 7-8 years - i.e. the time is yet to come even for the oldest millennials.

 

I bet Bloomberg will post for millennial divorce peak in around 2020-2025 It will be similar disinformation content, because divorce (and general relationship break) peaks at 7-8 years since decades

 

You’re welcome!

 

I always found it difficult to relate to people my age. That

one reason why the men I dated were 5-15 years older than I. I was out of my parents’ house at before age 25 and I rented rooms and bachelor apartments. I worked low skilled jobs until I had the opportunity to go back to school.

My husband and I just celebrated 8 years of marriage. It has not always been easy but marriage is difficult sometimes. That’s life!

Edited October 5, 2018 by BettyDraper

[lana-banana]

Saw an update on this. Sure enough, the current divorce rate is the lowest it's been since 1968. So far the evidence suggests that when people can choose whether they want to get married (rather than needing the social standing of a marriage to survive), and have the option to establish themselves independently beforehand, they tend to have more enduring marriages.

[Woggle]

Yes it is low because you can't end something that never started in the first place. I do respect that more than blowing up a marriage with kids and all of that but it's certainly not some great revival of marriage.

[chillii]

l don't for one second believe the so called benifits to men.

As usual , they skip so many both sided details in these things when it suits them, it's pathetic.

For a start , l've known very few happily married men , matter of fact l pitty 3/4 l see. And then the poor bastard can't even croke early just to escape finally , she won't let him.

And she gets looked after too, but they seem to forget that.

No one ever mentions the perks of many wives.

 

And the stress of being married is 3 fold of single, l know, l was married 20yrs and believe me, it is much much easier all round being single.

An that was mostly a very good marriage far better than most , l could only imagine the stresses in a bad one.

And most women can't even cook these days anyway or are even around to look after a husband , hell most of them won't even stay married even though they're the ones actually pressuring a marriage in the first place and oh yeah the slight little detail that she'll be paid for divorcing him for the rest of her life .

Just to name a few tiny little details the neglect to add into all these so called studies and stats , there are many many more, they're a joke.

But when they do these so called stats in 40yrs time from these days now, gonna be a whole different story.

Edited April 10, 2019 by chillii

[chillii]

As far as Marriage these days doing things smarter, how could they even know yet. They haven't even been married long enough or been through anything.

l'd actually bet moreso than ever now , the slightest rocky patch and it'll be all over. No way they'll have the guts and staying power for long term marriages , but that just can't be shown as yet.

For that one re'ckeck in say 10- 20yrs.

[guest569]

If they are troubled it's because their elders didn't raise them well. Apparently those with broken families are less likely to have successful and lasting relationships. So the divorce cycle continues.

[littleblackheart]

It's not a millennial thing, it's a societal evolution thing thanks to the hard work of the previous generations (in terms of gender equality); some millennials are the beneficiaries of these social changes - mostly, those who can afford it either thanks to parental financial support (no student debts, deposit for a house, inheritance) or marrying into wealth, rarely through competence alone.

 

Successful millennials are not all millennials by any means, and they are not the norm. Many (the majority, in fact) are still saddled with student debts bc they didn't have parental help, some come from under-privileged backgrounds with no higher education, no prospect of a high paying career or ever buying their own homes when average wages are stagnating and everything else (including house prices and rents) are going up. These people don't get married, so they don't get divorced either.