True or false: Men prefer average women because less work and competition?

[Woggle]

I once had a casual relationship with a woman who could have been a model. She was physical perfection but her personality was so awful that it didn't matter. She wanted to make it a serious relationship and every guy I know thought I was nuts for breaking it off but they didn't listen to her twisted philosophy on relationships for hours on end. They didn't listen to her laugh at the guys on rotation who bought her stuff and took her places. They didn't listen to her pseudo empowerment crap she used to justify all of this. I dumped her and found a gorgeous women with a personality that is just as gorgeous.

[basil67]

Perfect 10 on a scale of greatness overall, not only physical appearance.

 

If a person was to strive for a partner who is a combination of things which bring them to a 10, they would be single forever. I doubt there is a person on earth who doesn't occasionally do things which the partner could live without.

[Exformer]

False.

 

 

 

First, all the girls I've ever dated were attractive... I know this because I was attracted to them...

 

 

As far as better looking equals high maintenance, that doesn't correlate with me. Personality and not looks determine high maintenance and there are plenty of high maintenance girls who are also unattractive IMO.

 

 

 

Secondly, I want what I'm attracted to and I want most what I'm attracted to most.

 

 

 

This means I go after the girl who is most attractive to me. When I get to know a person, that has a lot to do with personality too, which over powers physical superiority, but that's not about work involved and competition... now, when I'm picking them out from a crowd in a bar, that's all physical.

 

 

No one wants to settle for less than what they really want, and hopefully few people do.

[basil67]

All the comments about women who are a 10 being perceived as high maintenance....after the ago of about 16, I grew an instinctive aversion to guys who's looks are a 10. Even more so if they look like they do a lot of work at the gym.

 

Of course, I'm sure there are great looking, buff guys out there who aren't like what I imagine. But my instinct still steers me away. So yeah, I get it.

[thefooloftheyear]

Its no fun being with someone that knows they are inferior to you ....Constant second guessing, constantly worried/insecure., constantly thinking you will better deal them, constantly trying to please, etc...

 

I don't worry too much about competition...Most guys are pretty lame...

 

Nope....don't want that...

 

TFY

[snowcones]

Read in an article the other day that although men love the idea of being with a 'perfect 10', most opt out and go for the average woman because less insecurity about having to ward off other men and keep competing to keep the woman.

 

True?

I'm not a man but I think it's true. I also think the same is true when you reverse the genders. Most of us just want to be loved and it can be a real buzz kill or turn off when you start talking to someone you like and then find out that they have 8 other people actively trying to get them too.

[Chilli]

Who wrote it ?

No one ever seems to ask just who is writing all the bs all over the internet yet 3/4 of the time it's just some halfwit nobody sitting in bed on a keyboard.

But anyway, l'm not in the US so if that's really how it is there l'd have no effg idea tbh.

But here , me , l'd never purposely find someone based on the right amount of looks, how could that even work , what about everything else ?

l dunno how that'd even be possible in reality because a relationships starts because you meet and just like each other , a lot, and it grows from there.

So if you fall in love with someone it's about who they are and who you are together and your hardly gonna walk away from all that just because she's too hot.

Make sense. ?

 

But , on a totally different note all together and maybe , just in this way alone, yeah maybe it does actually happen in another way though.

Because personally l've always found something not real , about a chick that's just so damn pretty it's like she's out of a magazine .

l like real , l really like real, and down to earth with her feet on the ground , grounded.

lt's some of the most important things to me . And so way back at the start of even meeting someone to begin with , l've just never even been attracted to someone that just so perfect anyway, so l just wouldn't even go for her in the first place.

 

l remember back when l was single , there was someone in a town l often went over to for lunch.

She was like that/ There's some pretty hot women round here but her, she was literally like some walking perfect manikin or something , she just didn't seem like she could be possibly be any sort of person l'd like, real, how could she be looking like that.

And l could see she was just shell shocked that l didn't bite , but l just wasn't interested , she was literally just too effg beautiful .

[alphamale]

dating in America is pretty screwed up. If you go to other places like Europe or S. America things are more normal

[PRW]

False. As far as better looking equals high maintenance, that doesn't correlate with me.

 

You are only one guy. One guy cannot make an absolute statement that what is being said is "False" just because your own personal experience was a variation.

 

If someone said the sky was blue I could point to a few overcast days and say "False!" The sky is grey. Someone could point to a sunset and say to me "False!" the sky is redish-orange. Someone could point to a rainbow and say "False!", you are all wrong! The sky is a bunch of different bright colors!

 

But the truth is that the sky is generally blue, and no one needs to bother to remember every time to stick the word "generally" in front for the word "blue" to be correct.

 

The of high maintenance women that are out there in society tend to usually be very attractive and are often from financially well off families,...but everyone knows that this is not always true in every case. If that were true we would all just throw in the towel and "go for poor/ugly",...problem solved.

[Whoknew30]

You are only one guy. One guy cannot make an absolute statement that what is being said is "False" just because your own personal experience was a variation.

 

If someone said the sky was blue I could point to a few overcast days and say "False!" The sky is grey. Someone could point to a sunset and say to me "False!" the sky is redish-orange. Someone could point to a rainbow and say "False!", you are all wrong! The sky is a bunch of different bright colors!

 

But the truth is that the sky is generally blue, and no one needs to bother to remember every time to stick the word "generally" in front for the word "blue" to be correct.

 

The of high maintenance women that are out there in society tend to usually be very attractive and are often from financially well off families,...but everyone knows that this is not always true in every case. If that were true we would all just throw in the towel and "go for poor/ugly",...problem solved.

 

 

 

OP...I’m going to school & in one of our classes we just discussed a newer study on this. The conclusion after showing (can’t remember the exact amount) men multiple pictures of different women arranged by attractiveness & asking who they would be more like to date or marry...was men go more for average looking women to marry vs more attractive bc of insecurity. Most men in the study said they would rather date the more attractive women vs the average but not marry bc they couldn’t relax thinking the more attractive woman get more attention from other men & there for, more options to cheat...which boils down to insecurity.

 

I thinK it’s funny to hear people’s thoughts on high maintenance. I have naturally long nails, natural extremely full lips & naturally thin my whole life. I use dollar store nail polish, some of my most complimented outfits have been $15 or under, my hair is dead straight & I don’t even own a blow dryer & takes 10 mins to do my whole makeup routine...& people by one look always accuse me of being high maintenance...been accused of my lips being done, that I lie about my nails being natural, I’m anorexic & my friends & family laugh. I’m the least high maintenance woman I know...in any way.

 

 

My point, people shouldn’t judge just by looks...I bet more than half the people judging others on being high maintenance are more actually high maintenance than the one being judged...being high maintenance isn’t a look & you could be passing up a cool person by judging on looks alone, either way!

[Springsummer]

I don't understand this '' prefer ' thing...how can you be physically intimate with someone if you are not physically attracted to that person????

 

if she is average but you are attracted to her then all is fine.

 

If I am not attracted to that person, I would rather be alone, no matter what.

[basil67]

Who wrote it ?

No one ever seems to ask just who is writing all the bs all over the internet yet 3/4 of the time it's just some halfwit nobody sitting in bed on a keyboard.

 

Chilli, I can't like this enough. And it's not just this topic, but all kinds of stuff written on the net. Just because some random writes something and has a few people agree, it doesn't necessarily obtain credibility.

 

Much of the internet is nothing more than a cesspool of ill informed or biased opinions. I do my best to keep it all from my feeds.

 

OP, please don't take everything you read at face value.

[major_merrick]

I think one falsehood is the idea that there is one single rating system. One guy's 10 may be different from someone else's. Megan Fox, for example, is supposed to be one of the world's most beautiful women. I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers, but she doesn't really get me going. My GFs look WAY better to me. For me, Megan Fox is a decent 7. I rate myself average to below average. I dislike having large breasts. My GFs have a thing about my looks, and so does my husband. I'm glad that different people like different things!

 

Being "high maintenance" also takes different forms. My GF#1 and my husband's Wife #1 are emotionally delicate and what I consider to be high maintenance. Yet, they don't have expensive tastes. Of the women in my house, I'm probably the most financially high maintenance because I'm used to earning good money and buying nice stuff.

[bathtub-row]

A study was done awhile back where a beautiful, sexy woman was placed in a busy park. She acted as though she had a crisis that she needed help with. Men consistently stopped to help her. This happened over and over again. Then they placed a not-so-attractive female in the same location, same situation and only 1 or 2 men stopped to see if she needed help (it might've actually been zero men that stopped but I don't recall exactly).

 

For all the guys saying they're not affected by looks, I find it hard to believe. Not saying all men cheat or are all looking for the beauty queen. Just saying, beauty has its effect.

[smackie9]

People in general are affected by looks. Good looking people are treated better, and have more opportunities.

[alphamale]

Good looking people are treated better, and have more opportunities.

 

that is so true

[Springsummer]

I think one falsehood is the idea that there is one single rating system. One guy's 10 may be different from someone else's. Megan Fox, for example, is supposed to be one of the world's most beautiful women. I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers, but she doesn't really get me going. My GFs look WAY better to me. For me, Megan Fox is a decent 7. I rate myself average to below average. I dislike having large breasts. My GFs have a thing about my looks, and so does my husband. I'm glad that different people like different things!

 

Being "high maintenance" also takes different forms. My GF#1 and my husband's Wife #1 are emotionally delicate and what I consider to be high maintenance. Yet, they don't have expensive tastes. Of the women in my house, I'm probably the most financially high maintenance because I'm used to earning good money and buying nice stuff.

 

If Megan fox is a 7, what does that make Megan the Duchess? a 5-6? hey, maybe this thread is true, if you look at her. I mean come on, objectively speaking..

[basil67]

If Megan fox is a 7, what does that make Megan the Duchess? a 5-6? hey, maybe this thread is true, if you look at her. I mean come on, objectively speaking..

 

What makes you say that Meghan Markle is lesser than Megan Fox? I mean, come on.

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[Chilli]

Oh yeah for sure people are def' effected by looks and l've seen the same thing as that experiment happen in RL plenty of times , might even be guilty of it myself.

Nah , not me haha, :bunny:

 

Funny too , but ever notice the not so good looking women notice you looking at the good looking one and send you some evil haha.

Sometimes l feel like sayin your not my effg gf l don't even know ya whatdou care who l look at.

[Mr. Lucky]

Good looking people are treated better, and have more opportunities.

 

I've worked all my life in a business known for good looking people (not me ) of both sexes. Many of them have a uniquely distorted view of the world.

 

As smackie9 stated, the better treatment tends to build entitlement and diminish problem-solving skills. There are exceptions, but they tend to look at relationships, whether romantic, friendship or professional, from a transactional basis, a tiring perspective if you're on the other end.

 

Perhaps there's some level of justice in the fact they often end up with each other...

 

Mr. Lucky

[sabaton]

Read in an article the other day that although men love the idea of being with a 'perfect 10', most opt out and go for the average woman because less insecurity about having to ward off other men and keep competing to keep the woman.

 

True?

 

 

Depends on what is considered average, in the enviroment the men is living in.

 

If the man is obese or overweight, chances are the women aren't that far behind in terms of weight and body fat, which would make that woman average, and it would make it impossible for the average man to get a 10/10 who is genuinely sexually attracted to him,instead of being with him because of his money, like years and years ago I was watching this 10 with her overweight/obese boyfriend on a date, whereas she wouldn't take her eyes off my friends with their soccer builds and chiseled jawlines from having low body fat, but because she was probably looking into having kids - who do you think she'd chase after?

 

 

 

Guys who can get laid easily/can't get hot women easily, and thus won't treat her like a queen, or would she chase after a guy who is leagues and leagues below her and because of that will spend mony and time and effort on her?

 

 

Now if you are talking about average women as in, 'the majority of the women who live where Sabaton lives, 20 seconds away from the beach where everyone naturally has a beach body, '' then, yes.

 

 

The average man is more than happy with the average woman, and although I would love to sleep casually with a 10(dating her would be too much effort because of the continious flow of men who would be wanting to get my 10 girlfriend) - I don't need a woman to be a 10 for me to be attracted to her, she just needs to be average.

[alphamale]

Perhaps there's some level of justice in the fact they often end up with each other...

 

birds of a feather flock together Mr. Lucky

[sabaton]

Most men just go after who they are into. Shrugs.

Do they really?

 

 

Back in college it wasn't rare for me to come across georgeous girls who had everything going for them in terms of raw genetic beauty: 5'7''+ 110-120lbs, with that being all curves and boobs, flat stomach, wide hips, clear skin, without any blemishes, straight white teeth, high cheekbones, thick, full, long hair, and overall absolutely stunning.

 

 

...and these were the girls who were more often than not, single.

I met girls like that who were still virgins in their late teens and early to mid 20s, and it wasn't because they had high standards or anything, or low sex drives, heck.

 

 

I remember how astounded I was when I met this little 4'10'' blonde with a butt and a body like Kim Kardashian and a face like a disney princess, and yet her best male gay friend told me that she had never had a boyfriend or a hook-up, ever.

 

 

Men go after what they can get. At least the smart ones, and it seems that there's a lot of men who are smart after all even though they were so young and full of testosterone: they would go after women in their league because sex is sex, even if it doesn't happen between them and hot women.

 

 

My friend has a bf and he considers her a perfect ten (she is though for rea) but yeah.

That's because your friend is dating a man who is a perfect 10 or close to it.

 

 

It is not like men all think their partners are super models, but many of them instantly see their partners as "hot" or "attractive" and feel chemistry

Men on average have higher sex drives than women do, and remember that men are competing with each other for women, no matter how attractive or average or unattractive a woman might be - there's still plenty of guys interested in sleeping with them, even if some women suffer from low self-esteem and aren't aware of that.

 

 

So, it's perfectly natural for a man to be head over heels, sexually, over his girlfriend even if she's not a 10, or 9 or an 8 or whatever.

 

 

, so while they do not outright think "right, she is average, not many men will go for her YAY":lmao: They also do not think "oh wow so she is a 9, or an 8 etc...:sick:". Some men just feel drawn/attracted to certain types of women without thinking twice about how hot they are to society.

What do you mean certain types of women? I dated a girl who worked for the brand suicidegirls. These are heavily tattooe'd and pierced girls, and although there are plenty who would be turned off because of the ink and metal, the fact remains that these women are universally considered to be attractive because of their faces and bodies.

[sabaton]

My boyfriend thinks I am a 10, the guy next door probably thinks I am a 7. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A man wants to be with a woman he feels attraction for, a woman could be a 10 in society's eyes and a 5 to his eyes.

 

 

If beauty was in the eye of the beholder, men like Sean O'Pry, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Ryan Gosling and Chris Evans and Luke Evans wouldn't be making the countless millions of dollars that they earn, and they wouldn't be considered to be sex symbols by tens, hundreds of millions of women worldwide, and we'd have objectively unattractive men like Steve Buscemi or Danny Devito considered to be hot by women, you know?

 

 

If Beauty was in the eye of the beholder, there would be a lot more Casanovas than just, well, the only one that ever lived? How many men would've loved to have slept with 130 women like Casanova did? How many men manage to even sleep with 20? And Giacomo Girolamo Casanova didn't lower his standards, like many men have to to get anywhere with women.

 

People feel attracted to a variety of folks, but I will never be Brad Pitt, you know? And people date and sleep with the women and the men that they can get. If my ex-girlfriends could get a 25 year old Brad Pitt: why on heaven would they sleep with me?

 

 

Exactly. People adjust their expectations and standards to what they can get.

Edited October 18, 2018 by sabaton

[sabaton]

For some reason people have this misconception that average/ugly/homely people have superior personalities because they can't get by on their looks and are less 'work' and impel less competition. IME, wrong. All a woman needs to do is put out the "I want to Fck" aura, regardless of looks, or even personality, and males will congregate because they all love the pussy. Seen it firsthand both while dating and while married. They can be just as bitchy and manipulative and downright evil as a room-stopping eleven. IMO, there is no correlation at all between what the guy/society perceives as appearance and who they are as people. Zero. Room stoppers simply get noticed more often and analyzed more often and others insecurities projected upon them more often.

 

 

That's is what I experienced going to college in a small, mediterranean Country.

 

 

 

But there was something magical about it all. The beautiful ones, were the girls who were more humble, because they were so accostumed to being around women whose level of looks was the same or higher than their own,

 

 

 

that they never developed the ego that would normally be developed in girls who literally have men with male model looks interested in sleeping with them, and despite all of this, their personalities and the way they treated men was so humble and gentle and they weren't arrogant nor narcissistic in nature.

 

 

 

You'd see girls like these around by the thousands, tall, and naturally slim, with beautiful faces dating completely average looking men. Men who weren't tall, weren't muscular, and didn't have the facial perfection of a young Montgomery Clift.

 

 

 

These guys weren't rich. Many didn't even have a job, or a car. And yet these girls were crazy about their boyfriends, and they would even approach guys who were nothing special to look at.

 

 

 

And because the college was 90% female and 10% male, pretty much almost every guy managed to get laid and have relationships with women they were attracted to.