How many guys here literally have NO dating options?

[sabaton]

What's wrong with the OP that he is against dating Asian girls that are born overseas but come here to study, live, etc etc?

Well, he says that he has nothing in common with Asian women because he was born and raised in a Western nation, and he also claims that Asian women only want white, tall, good-looking men.

 

 

 

Then he remarks that white women aren't interested in him because he's a short Asian male, and here I am thinking that Bruce Lee was only 5'7'' with shoes and he married a blonde white woman, and I'm pretty sure he was getting attention from white/black/Indian/every other race before he became rich and famous.

 

 

 

Something about not being "westernized" I really don't think there is such a thing.

He probably means that Asian women are westernized in the sense that they're going to pursue the men they are attracted to, physically, instead of marrying a guy who makes good money and has a good job, because back in Asia many women do that, and that because he is a short Asian man, he believes he can't attract Asian women because western women don't need a man's money.

 

 

 

I get that he was born here, but for him to say that he refuses to date an asian girl that is fresh off the boat is absurd. What, he doesn't know anything about Asian? Does he hate his culture, his ethnicity or something?

Well, he's always talking about how successful he is, how he has done this and that, and how the men who are lesser than him(because they make less money, aren't as educated) get all of the hot women that he wants to date. Kinda makes me feel that he wants a hot white woman as a trophy wife??

 

You mean to say that you have never traveled to Asian and seen attractive asian women? Surely, there are attractive ones, what, so the entire female population of asian countries want to ONLY date/marry white men?

I feel that he means that the entirety of the female Asian population in America and in Europe don't need a man's money, which will cause them to seek out men they want to sleep with, instead of settling for a guy who can provide them with a comfortable, possible lavish lifestyle.

 

 

Like others of said, seems like he only wants the hot blonde, blue eyed, big boobies type girl that is out of his league. If you have a good job, maybe you can travel to Spain, Europe, Middle east, meet a foreigner over there, I doubt they will be less picky about men.

Yes! That's how I feel about it. In his other posts, in his long-winded threads about how he has it bad because he's not a tall, white guy, he keeps hawking about how a 5 will never be sexually desired by a 8 white girl.

 

He wants a woman way out of his league and he's angry that the men who are 8s and 9s and 10s are getting these women, even though he makes a lot more money than him, and he believes his money makes him better than the men women are selecting as mates.

 

I dunno, man. He could come to Southern Europe but with that attitude of his, and how he feels entitled to hot girls he might get a girlfriend or a wife out of this Iberian Peninsula and Italy and Greece - but he'll probably be rushing back again here complaining that his wife won't have sex with him.

 

If he's this frustrated about women, then maybe he could go to a brothel in Nevada or fly to Amsterdam and spend some money on those women, at least for some sex and championship!

I agree! An hour spent in the company of an escort would do wonders for his sexual frustration.

[sabaton]

Asian women are imo the second most beautiful women in the world , hell if l was Asian l sure wouldn't be complaining.

 

 

Tell me about it. Pakistani women are gorgeous, and the population of the Country is around 220Million people, with 100+ million women or so, with lots of those women being young. He shouldn't have trouble getting a wife if he was to visit that nation.

 

 

 

And they're often tiny too so you shouldn't have a drama at all.

 

 

He'd probably fall in love with the tall one/the hottest girl tho

[JuneL]

OP: You mentioned that you’re not interested in dating foreign-born Asian women. How about someone who was born in Asia but moved to the US before elementary school? From my personal observations, sometimes an American-born Asian can be more Asian culture wise compared to an Asian immigrant, as the former is “frozen” in the Asian culture of her/his grandparents generation, if that makes sense.

[sabaton]

OP: You mentioned that you’re not interested in dating foreign-born Asian women. How about someone who was born in Asia but moved to the US before elementary school? From my personal observations, sometimes an American-born Asian can be more Asian culture wise compared to an Asian immigrant, as the former is “frozen” in the Asian culture of her/his grandparents generation, if that makes sense.

 

 

Nah, that won't work. OP has already clearly stated in one of his threads that he can't date the Asian women who were born and raised in the US/Canada/Europe because those women grow around white men, and then they don't want Asian men anymore. Something about ''Asian women not wanting short Asian men''.

[preraph]

What's wrong with the OP that he is against dating Asian girls that are born overseas but come here to study, live, etc etc? Something about not being "westernized" I really don't think there is such a thing. I get that he was born here, but for him to say that he refuses to date an asian girl that is fresh off the boat is absurd. What, he doesn't know anything about Asian? Does he hate his culture, his ethnicity or something? You mean to say that you have never traveled to Asian and seen attractive asian women? Surely, there are attractive ones, what, so the entire female population of asian countries want to ONLY date/marry white men? Like others of said, seems like he only wants the hot blonde, blue eyed, big boobies type girl that is out of his league. If you have a good job, maybe you can travel to Spain, Europe, Middle east, meet a foreigner over there, I doubt they will be less picky about men.

 

If he's this frustrated about women, then maybe he could go to a brothel in Nevada or fly to Amsterdam and spend some money on those women, at least for some sex and championship!

 

Because their customs are offputting to him. There's a LOT of family involvement and family telling you what to do and even sometimes taking your money, short leash. I don't blame him for that. He wants someone who isn't conventional from that culture. I would speculate that the longer the generations have been here the better, but that depends how insular they've been. So I would think San Francisco would be a logical choice to meet Asians who've been here for generations, but I'm sure some have still carried on the old ways.

 

I used to hang at this motorcycle repair shop that had a cafe and some Middle Eastern guys ran it. They were always in there on their computers looking at photos of girls from wherever they were from and heard them talking and one wanted conventional but the other did not, and they just said, Well, all you have to do is put in your profile you're looking for nonconventional because certainly there are some everywhere if you can find them. Online dating, you ought to be able to find them.

Edited October 28, 2018 by preraph

[JuneL]

But that’s precisely why some Asian women stay away from him! He might think he’s “westernized”, but he may still have some stereotypical Asian traits that are turning Asian girls off. This has nothing to do with his objective attractiveness or looks. From my own experience, how long or how many generations you have been in the US is not directly related to how Asian you are culturally.

 

When I said “stereotypical”, I meant the negative ones. There are very good Asian cultural straits as well.

 

Because their customs are offputting to him. There's a LOT of family involvement and family telling you what to do and even sometimes taking your money, short leash. I don't blame him for that. He wants someone who isn't conventional from that culture. I would speculate that the longer the generations have been here the better, but that depends how insular they've been. So I would think San Francisco would be a logical choice to meet Asians who've been here for generations, but I'm sure some have still carried on the old ways.

 

I used to hang at this motorcycle repair shop that had a cafe and some Middle Eastern guys ran it. They were always in there on their computers looking at photos of girls from wherever they were from and heard them talking and one wanted conventional but the other did not, and they just said, Well, all you have to do is put in your profile you're looking for nonconventional because certainly there are some everywhere if you can find them. Online dating, you ought to be able to find them.

Edited October 28, 2018 by JuneL

[sabaton]

But that’s precisely why some Asian women stay away from him! He might think he’s “westernized”,

 

 

I agree. If you ever took it upon yourself to read the original threads created by the OP: he talks extensively how he feels that he's better than the white guys(who make a lot less than him/have no jobs/have little education) because of how much he has accomplished $ and how much he makes $ which kinda makes me feel he's basing his worth as a potential mate on the way his culture was set-up: men working and providing for women and women staying home.

 

 

 

 

 

 

but he may still have some stereotypical Asian traits that are turning Asian girls off.

 

 

Yes, he's probably old-fashioned and these girls don't want to get tied down to a man and to be a maid/mother/always there when he wants sex, like these girls grandmothers had to endure back home.

[JuneL]

I agree. If you ever took it upon yourself to read the original threads created by the OP: he talks extensively how he feels that he's better than the white guys(who make a lot less than him/have no jobs/have little education) because of how much he has accomplished $ and how much he makes $ which kinda makes me feel he's basing his worth as a potential mate on the way his culture was set-up: men working and providing for women and women staying home.

 

Yes, he's probably old-fashioned and these girls don't want to get tied down to a man and to be a maid/mother/always there when he wants sex, like these girls grandmothers had to endure back home.

 

On the other hand, he’s also adamant about not paying on the first date. For some women, he might be the worst combination of each culture. I have met some Asian male immigrants (from an older generation) who have combined the best from both cultures. They are married to very high quality women with a diverse variety of ethnic backgrounds.

[JuneL]

I hope Seven City can provide insights into why some Asian women he has dated tended not to date Asian guys. I can only speak from my own experiences and observations.

[alphamale]

I hope Seven City can provide insights into why some Asian women he has dated tended not to date Asian guys. I can only speak from my own experiences and observations.

 

i'll speak for SC. The indian girls I've known who married non-indian guys cite "being nerdy" as the top reason for marrying outside their culture/religion/race...

[JuneL]

i'll speak for SC. The indian girls I've known who married non-indian guys cite "being nerdy" as the top reason for marrying outside their culture/religion/race...

 

I am from East Asian culture. The Indian culture can be more complicated, as there’s the castes system.

[thefooloftheyear]

I can't speak for all women, but I know most women want guys who are "not small"....seemingly even the tiniest of women want guys who are bigger...

 

Its not always about being short...There are shorter guys that are quite big(not fat)….Take a 5'7" guy that has 180 lbs of muscle on him and hell look more appealing than a skinny 6 footer to many women.. but if you are a short guy and you are very small, then it becomes very hard....The other aspect is that most really small guys have a Napoleon complex's and other weird social issues that would otherwise make them not that attractive to the average woman...

 

I suppose the typical Asian girl that is only really exposed to her own race of guys, then its not a problem...Once she's been around here and sees that there are others that can be more attractive, then they gravitate towards that...

 

TFY

[elaine567]

I can't speak for all women, but I know most women want guys who are "not small"....seemingly even the tiniest of women want guys who are bigger...

 

Its not always about being short...There are shorter guys that are quite big(not fat)….Take a 5'7" guy that has 180 lbs of muscle on him and hell look more appealing than a skinny 6 footer to many women.. but if you are a short guy and you are very small, then it becomes very hard....The other aspect is that most really small guys have a Napoleon complex's and other weird social issues that would otherwise make them not that attractive to the average woman...

It is about power and presence and strength, so chunky smaller guys, even if slightly flabby, are a lot better than guys who look like they would snap in the wind or who look like they are permanently about 15yo...

[alphamale]

It is about power and presence and strength, so chunky smaller guys, even if slightly flabby, are a lot better than guys who look like they would snap in the wind or who look like they are permanently about 15yo...

 

ahhhh elaine567, that explains why so many short guys are into body building. if you can't increase height then increase width

[preraph]

I agree to a point, but like I don't like chunky overly muscular guys at all. I did fall for one guy who wasn't at all muscular and not tall and kind of Pillsbury Dough Boy type. No one understood why, but he really didn't have trouble getting women. Skinny is fine with me or muscled in a natural way. I like a great face, so even if a guy was short and thin, if he had a great face and nice personality, I'd like him.

 

I think it's kind of tragic how the whole Asian thing is for the Asian men. I don't really understand why so many guys think Asian women are anything special. Some are very attractive and some aren't, like any other type women. I always thought it was because so many guys like petite women, but when I suggested that to an old professor friend of mine who had an Asian fetish, he poo-pood the idea, but I don't believe him because he was short. (He was also married to a blonde, by the way - sigh)

 

But I mean, if you're short and want a shorter woman, Asian isn't the only way to go. I live in Texas, and so many Latinas are super short. They're not normally all skinny though, so I guess I just answered my own question. All I know is there was a fat Asian girl working in my office for awhile, and guys weren't knocking down her door to get to her. So I think it all boils down to the stereotypical beauty formula and the short/skinny thing.

 

I wince whenever I hear guys on here expecting so much return for their good job or high education. I mean, certainly it's more options in general, but if you're reaching out of your practical attractiveness level for a woman who is hotter than you could normally get, then you're just setting yourself up to attract golddiggers. Now, I do realize, some men do not care about quality and may just consider this the price of admission. Just know they're just as expensive to get rid of as to get in the first place, and more.

[sabaton]

On the other hand, he’s also adamant about not paying on the first date. For some women, he might be the worst combination of each culture. I have met some Asian male immigrants (from an older generation) who have combined the best from both cultures. They are married to very high quality women with a diverse variety of ethnic backgrounds.

 

 

What???? He's adamant about not paying for the first date???

 

 

 

He considers himself to be of a higher quality than these guys who are getting with the hot women that he wants, he says these men are lesser than him because of his accomplishments and his income and income potential, but he doesn't even want to use what he considers makes him as sexually attractive as a mate as these guys are, to make women give him a chance???

 

 

That makes no sense to me.

 

 

 

I have met some Asian male immigrants (from an older generation) who have combined the best from both cultures. They are married to very high quality women with a diverse variety of ethnic backgrounds

 

 

I know a 30 year old Indian male who was born and raised in India and then moved to Europe some 10 years ago, and he's married to a beautiful blonde white woman. They have a couple of kids together. She could have chosen a good-looking white guy. She chose this one.

 

 

 

When will ethnic guys realize that their race doesn't make them unattractive to women from other races, it's their attitudes and low self-esteems that keeps them from having what they want.

[sabaton]

I am from East Asian culture. The Indian culture can be more complicated, as there’s the castes system.

 

 

But that's mostly from the older generations, right? I dated an Indian girl who was studying aboard and she was telling me that if her father knew about me, that I wasn't Indian, and that I was of a lower societal rank(she was studying medicine, her parents were all doctors) and I was studying History that he would have had me killed

 

 

I honestly don't get it. Over one Billion Indian people, and instead of bringing down those archaic social systems they have in India, they'd rather be sexually frustrated by making it as hard as possible for themselves to get sex without being married, with all of the moralistic tissue that permeates the Indian society.

 

 

And it's dangerous for everyone, women and men to have old-obselete social values that result in extreme frustration and desperation. I met an Indian girl that was crying her eyes out because when she was to graduate, she would have to return to India, and then she told me of how she can't go anywhere without guys leering at her, that she must have a male escort at all times, and that she never leaves her house when it's about to get dark.

[sabaton]

I can't speak for all women, but I know most women want guys who are "not small"....seemingly even the tiniest of women want guys who are bigger...

 

 

You know, I always find it strange that people talk about how women want huge men, even if it's not in lean body mass, but in just weight, but then I look at the men around me and they're all skinny or have the healthy weight for their height, and it ain't much at all, like 140lbs, 150lbs for the tallest guys.

 

 

I dated a couple of 4'10'' 90lbs girls, while I'm only 5'7'' at 132lbs, and with one I did it when I was even skinnier.

 

 

 

It's true that back home in the US dating was harder, I did have an attractive girlfriend in highschool but it was a lotta competition to get her and keep her, and the rest of the women were 160lbs so I was invisible being much lighter than them - but over here? They're all stick-thin lol, so they don't care that I only have 20 or 30 lbs of weight on them, or even the same weight.

 

 

Its not always about being short...There are shorter guys that are quite big(not fat)….Take a 5'7" guy that has 180 lbs of muscle on him and hell look more appealing than a skinny 6 footer to many women..

 

 

Actually, I met a lot of skinny 6 feet tall dudes with a lot of women, and I never really met a 5'7'' guy with 180lbs. Not in college, when guys are mostly vain about their looks and certainly not that much. Only when the guy's a bouncer or a bodybuilder or a night watchman, but even then I dunno.

 

 

 

but if you are a short guy and you are very small, then it becomes very hard....

 

 

Not really, no. The hardest part is the psychological adaptation to a new Country and culture, and getting the money for the airplane ticket. Move to a land where the average girl weights 90lbs to 130lbs tops(location is everything) and suddenly you don't have to be a 200lbs + Dave Bautista beast for women to notice you.

 

 

 

 

 

The other aspect is that most really small guys have a Napoleon complex's and other weird social issues that would otherwise make them not that attractive to the average woman...

 

 

Not really. If they suffered from a Napoleon Complex they'd be all stuck at the Gym working to get big and I don't see short guys(anything below 5'10'') walking around with biceps the size of overfed ham.

 

 

I suppose the typical Asian girl that is only really exposed to her own race of guys, then its not a problem...Once she's been around here and sees that there are others that can be more attractive, then they gravitate towards that...

 

 

Yeah.. because people only have eyes for the most attractive of people.. boy I sure wish you guys could see the sort of dudes walking around with hot girls around.

 

 

''but but, that guy is under 140lbs!''

 

 

''but, but, that guy is 5'7''!''

 

 

''but but that guy doesn't make much money''

 

 

''but but that guy lives with his parents/roomates!''

 

 

[elaine567]

In UK average height for women is 5'4 so men at 5'7" are usually acceptable.

Many girls will date 5'7", it is 5'5"-5'6" and below where the height problems really start kicking in, more especially when accompanied by other "issues".

[thefooloftheyear]

You know, I always find it strange that people talk about how women want huge men, even if it's not in lean body mass, but in just weight, but then I look at the men around me and they're all skinny or have the healthy weight for their height, and it ain't much at all, like 140lbs, 150lbs for the tallest guys.

 

 

I dated a couple of 4'10'' 90lbs girls, while I'm only 5'7'' at 132lbs, and with one I did it when I was even skinnier.

 

 

 

It's true that back home in the US dating was harder, I did have an attractive girlfriend in highschool but it was a lotta competition to get her and keep her, and the rest of the women were 160lbs so I was invisible being much lighter than them - but over here? They're all stick-thin lol, so they don't care that I only have 20 or 30 lbs of weight on them, or even the same weight.

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, I met a lot of skinny 6 feet tall dudes with a lot of women, and I never really met a 5'7'' guy with 180lbs. Not in college, when guys are mostly vain about their looks and certainly not that much. Only when the guy's a bouncer or a bodybuilder or a night watchman, but even then I dunno.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not really, no. The hardest part is the psychological adaptation to a new Country and culture, and getting the money for the airplane ticket. Move to a land where the average girl weights 90lbs to 130lbs tops(location is everything) and suddenly you don't have to be a 200lbs + Dave Bautista beast for women to notice you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not really. If they suffered from a Napoleon Complex they'd be all stuck at the Gym working to get big and I don't see short guys(anything below 5'10'') walking around with biceps the size of overfed ham.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah.. because people only have eyes for the most attractive of people.. boy I sure wish you guys could see the sort of dudes walking around with hot girls around.

 

 

''but but, that guy is under 140lbs!''

 

 

''but, but, that guy is 5'7''!''

 

 

''but but that guy doesn't make much money''

 

 

''but but that guy lives with his parents/roomates!''

 

 

 

 

Man, your posts are unreadable as they are laid out...Not being critical and do what you want, but I have never read one fully, and I'd imagine most of the other members probably don't either...Maybe it's me, but I doubt it..

 

Next, I get it, in the Land of The Lilliputians or wherever you live, I am sure 125# guys do great...Here, where even non fat/athletic 5'3" typical white , women can weigh as much as 140 and still look great and the average woman can be much heavier, small guys struggle mightily....

 

 

A higher majority of the well built/muscular guys are actually shorter than 6'...Its a proven fact that genetically they are more likely to possess a body that can build measurable muscle mass...Most taller guys are ectomorphs or Shrek type endomorphs that can't get an aesthetically pleasing physique no matter how hard they try...

 

Good grief...To think someone would have to actually move to an entirely new country to find a woman to date, is kinda crazy....I mean, in my entire life, there has always been available women around, without even going out of the way of normal life, and without even really actively pursuing them...

 

TFY

[Usename12]

The OP practically threw his whole race under the bus. Did the OP say he is an Asian guy who only wants to date white women? Most women would probably be creeped out by that. Also, in the West Coast with big American born Asian populations (LA, SF, Seattle), yes there are many native Asian women who marry white guys but there are plenty of native Asian women who marry Asian guys too. Like many races, native Asians sometimes cluster together--go to the same clubs, etc and often don't overlap with recent immigrants. Maybe the OP isn't in tune with Asian culture in his area.

[Chilli]

Yep , l'm not in the US but notice the same thing here too. So to me it wouldn't really matter who was raised here or whereever because there always seems to be all kinds of mixes anyway even in the people that were born here.

[ElKay]

Dating an Asian guy right now and he's amazing (I'm a white Eastern European girl). I've often had crushes on Asians, including ones might height (5'7-ish).

I've also dated someone that was 2 inches short than me before and it was fine as long as he didn't make it an issue.

 

I think everyone could have dating options, but just put your best foot forward.

[sabaton]

Next, I get it, in the Land of The Lilliputians or wherever you live,

I live in the land that discovered and colonized what went on to become Brazil. And guess what is the average height for the men in Brazil. You think they're all 200lbs men? I've had American men of average height coming in spending the summer holidays in Cascais, a beach resort of sorts, and the local men weren't dwarfed by the Americans but hey if you want to believe anything shorter than 6 feet or 5'10'' is a midget, who am I to say anything.

 

I was born and raised in the USA and then I moved to Europe to attend college, and the difference between the women and men back home and the place I landed on is like day and night. You have 5'6'' 120lbs women at thinking they are overweight and that they need to lose weight, whereas back home I used to have 160lbs women at 5'4'' that saw themselves as curvy and of course the guys will say that these women are attractive and not that big, because of how thirsty they are, and the lack of access they have to genuinely attractive women.

 

I am sure 125# guys do great...Here, where even non fat/athletic 5'3" typical white , women can weigh as much as 140 and still look great

 

Look great? What do you mean? They look like this? https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/swimsuit/web/sara-sampaio/2014/sara-sampaio-2014-photo-sports-illustrated-205080215.jpg That's how most of the girls look more more or less in Portimão, and the men are at 5'7'' to 5'8'' with few being 5'9'' and over that, and they're all skinny for the most part like this dude http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/flynn-herowinter/13-reasons-brandon-flynn-goes-shirtless-hero-winter-annual-04.jpg

 

and the average woman can be much heavier, small guys struggle mightily....

But if they struggle that much why don't they just move to a Country/land where the majority of the women don't weight almost more than Brad Pitt?

 

Good grief...To think someone would have to actually move to an entirely new country to find a woman to date, is kinda crazy....

I didn't need to move to a new Country to find a woman to date. It's just that I never had the desire to become a 200lbs monster to be able of lifting the average woman off the ground. Oh, and I also enjoy not getting shot to death going to school, or getting into massive debt by attending college.

 

Do you know how amazed I was when I landed here and I saw women who couldn't weight more than 90lbs all around, and how it felt to lift those women off the floor, easily, without needing to train my body to endure extreme physical strain?

 

Most of the women are fit, pretty and young. You wouldn't move to a new Country where you now have access to Middle-Eastern women, African women, European women, and Indian women and Asian women?

 

I mean, in my entire life, there has always been available women around, without even going out of the way of normal life, and without even really actively pursuing them...

Not all of us are a 450lbs 9% body fat Brad Pitt with dozens upon dozens of 200lbs women throwing themselves at us Edited October 29, 2018 by sabaton

[sabaton]

The OP practically threw his whole race under the bus. Did the OP say he is an Asian guy who only wants to date white women? Most women would probably be creeped out by that. Also, in the West Coast with big American born Asian populations (LA, SF, Seattle), yes there are many native Asian women who marry white guys but there are plenty of native Asian women who marry Asian guys too. Like many races, native Asians sometimes cluster together--go to the same clubs, etc and often don't overlap with recent immigrants. Maybe the OP isn't in tune with Asian culture in his area.

 

 

Yes, he's an Asian man who only wants white women who are not only white, but also 8s to his 5s(and he claims that he was a 3 before he decided to lose weight but even so he can't get past 5) and then complains that those women who are legit some of the most attractive women in the entire world don't want him because he's a short Asian, and he's bitter than the women he wants are dating and hooking up men who are as attractive as they themselves are.

 

 

Claiming that he deserves to sleep with 8/10 women when he's only a 5/10 because he makes a lot of money.