Anecdote about male height and dating

[elaine567]

Well...of course, a 5'6" guy would look like an idiot if she had a greater than 6' "limit" and he thought he could subvert that...

 

But that also means that guys who are 5'8-5'11" would still be considered "out" even though in my experience, no woman would out someone they really liked. based on some 2" of height....It would NEVER happen...

 

I guess anyone who filters >6' means taller than 6', not around 6' so although 5'8 is not considered short, it is still 4" less than optimal and if the preference is actually 6'2+ it is well below.

 

 

I think sticking to the requirements specified is probably best all round.

"I think you are a great guy but you are a liar and you are far too short" would not be a fantastic confidence booster... nor would a turn on the heel at the door...

[nospam99]

Out of curiosity, can a guy also apply filters for weight and/or dress size??

 

 

TFY

 

ROTFLMAO

 

Briefly, no. But I find that filtering on women's photos works rather well. If they don't have a waist, next. 'Body type' is a hit-and-miss filter. Most people of both genders say they are 'average'. I've seen profiles of women who says they are average where they are, to my eyes, 'hot' and others who clearly appear overweight in their photos. One woman elicited a chuckle from me with a statement in her profile about being neither a runway model nor needing to wear a muumuu.

 

There was even one woman who called herself 'average' and was a knock out. There were reasons I forget that 'we' wouldn't have 'worked out', distance most likely. Yet she was so hot that I sent her a message suggesting she change 'average' to something else, thin, slender, athletic, whatever a better description would have been on that platform. She sent me a 'thank you' message and changed her profile. Just goes to show that plenty of people on OLD can be civil and friendly whether they intend to bang each other or not.

Edited November 26, 2018 by nospam99

[thefooloftheyear]

ROTFLMAO

 

Briefly, no. But I find that filtering on women's photos works rather well. If they don't have a waist, next. 'Body type' is a hit-and-miss filter. Most people of both genders say they are 'average'. I've seen profiles of women who says they are average where they are, to my eyes, 'hot' and others who clearly appear overweight in their photos. One woman elicited a chuckle from me with a statement in her profile about being neither a runway model nor needing to wear a muumuu.

 

There was even one woman who called herself 'average' and was a knock out. There were reasons I forget that 'we' wouldn't have 'worked out', distance most likely. Yet she was so hot that I sent her a message suggesting she change 'average' to something else, thin, slender, athletic, whatever a better description would have been on that platform. She sent me a 'thank you' message and changed her profile. Just goes to show that plenty of people on OLD can be civil and friendly whether they intend to bang each other or not.

 

 

So I guess they don't allow you to request a pic of a woman in a two piece holding up a current newspaper for date verification?

 

TFY

[nospam99]

 

So I guess they don't allow you to request a pic of a woman in a two piece holding up a current newspaper for date verification?

 

TFY

 

Another chuckle, TFY. No current newspapers, but several 50-somethings in bikinis. The ones who dare to post those photos have the bodies to make their points. And from a practical standpoint, if the OLD women are not willing to 'make the first move' (they usually don't with me, but I admit to being no Brad Pitt), it's 'on' them to post photos that show they have attractive faces and bodies in order to generate male interest.

 

A tight and/or revealing formal dress can be as eye-catching as a swimsuit. One nearby 59 y/o who, for reasons beyond my comprehension, viewed my profile (she's 5'7'' 'athletic' with 5'10'' and up 'athletic' requirements) posted photos of herself pole dancing and wearing a LBD (as well as several other 'girl next door' shots) - be still my heart (and other body part). At least in the demographic I'm dealing with, most of them do post several flattering photos of themselves. With only one or two exceptions, the ones I've actually met looked like their photos.

[GuitarGuy7]

First off, if you're 5 ft 8, you're not that short mate. You may not be tall, but you're certainly not short either, you're a pretty normal height. There's nothing wrong with being normal, normal means you're totally not screwed. Trust me, there's guys 5 ft 5 or shorter would love to be 5 ft 8, so I would stop complaining about your height.

 

Honestly, online dating is notoriously bad for men who fall out of the realms of what is considered conventionally attractive, and yes that includes height.

 

Because you have to remember, women receive HUNDREDS of messages from guys. Even the average looking girls with crappy profiles have literally dozens of dudes trying to hit her up every single day. And because of this, women are more picky because they can simply afford to be. Lots of women may only message back men who are 5 ft 10 or taller.

 

She might stumble upon a profile of a guy who's 5 ft 6 and not message him back because he's short. But if they meet in real life, she would be more likely to give him a chance.

 

That's why if you're under shorter than 5 ft 7, online dating sites where you're supposed to list your height may not be the greatest option. You're better off meeting people in real life and letting your personality and confidence shine.

[Wallysbears]

<snip>Because you have to remember, women receive HUNDREDS of messages from guys. Even the average looking girls with crappy profiles have literally dozens of dudes trying to hit her up every single day. And because of this, women are more picky because they can simply afford to be. Lots of women may only message back men who are 5 ft 10 or taller.

 

She might stumble upon a profile of a guy who's 5 ft 6 and not message him back because he's short. But if they meet in real life, she would be more likely to give him a chance.

 

That's why if you're under shorter than 5 ft 7, online dating sites where you're supposed to list your height may not be the greatest option. You're better off meeting people in real life and letting your personality and confidence shine.

 

As a taller woman...I completely and totally disagree with this.

 

Guys...no offense meant but if you are shorter in height? Aim for petite women to date.

 

Taller women are rarely interested in shorter men.

 

It’s just a “thing”

 

Women over 5’8” like men closer to 6’.

 

OLD or real life aside.

 

It just IS.

Edited January 10, 2019 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
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[GuitarGuy7]

I was referring to all women to be honest.

 

I bet you that lots of women would be willing to date a guy who's 5 ft 6, as long as she's not drastically taller than him. But because it's online dating, you may be less likely to be given a shot because women are notoriously picky through online dating.

Edited January 10, 2019 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[5x5]

As a taller woman...I completely and totally disagree with this.

 

Guys...no offense meant but if you are shorter in height? Aim for petite women to date.

 

None taken.

 

I've always preferred petite and tall over heavy and tall.

 

Taller women are rarely interested in shorter men.

 

It’s just a “thing”

 

Except for the many who are interested in short men.

 

I've been with plenty of taller women and I'm only 5'3". Which hasn't stopped many of them asking me out, or propositioning me at parties and the like.

 

Most of the women I have been with have been from 5'7" through 5'11. Although I have gone taller, plus I've also been with a woman who was circa 6'2".

 

My wife is 5'7" and she asked me out on a date, then dumped the circa 6' guy she was with after I slept with her.

 

To be fair though before my wife asked me out, she'd never been with a shorter man and almost exclusively dated men who were 6' or taller. Yet when she met me at work she thought I was an arrogant prick, yet she quickly found herself drawn to me, which led to her asking me out.

 

I always liked how my wife towered over me while wearing tall **** me boots, when we were in our twenties and thirties.

 

While my ex-wife who is 5'6", she asked her friend to ask me to talk to her when we met, which led to sex a couple of hours later.

 

Women over 5’8” like men closer to 6’.

 

Some do, some don't.

 

I've been with plenty of women sexually who were over 5'8" and of those, most of them asked me out or initiated/asked for sex.

 

OLD or real life aside.

 

It just IS.

 

Except when it ISN'T.

 

In my experience, very attractive taller women (beautiful face, petite figure etc), especially from 5'9" and up have been the easiest to bed. Followed by women who are 5'6" and up.

 

Whereas I have had less luck, with women who are 5'5" or below in height.

 

So as a short man who has found attractive tall women to be the easiest pickings, I encourage other short men to try taller women as well.

[eriel]

I dated a guy 9cm shorter (not sure what it is in inches). I rest my arms on his shoulders because he's visibly shorter. My friends often wandered how we kiss.

 

I wouldn't voluntarily date shorter men, but personality still counts for a lot. When we first met, I thought he was sweet and attentive, so it didn't matter that he was short. It also helped that he did martial arts - I like the feeling of being protected (essentially equal to height)

 

Unfortunately as I got to know him, he was critical, never found me good enough, ranted about how his height meant he had fewer choices and ended up being abusive, so we broke up.

[jaimepn]

Only a percentage of women are short. In this already small group, the majority will be very vocal about their preference on tall, sometimes disproportionally tall, guys.

The way I see it, 90% of all women fancy 10% of all men.

Obviously, this doesn't work logistically speaking, so most of them will have to settle for average sized guys, giving them a chance of showing their individuality and things can turn out quite well.

 

On the other end of the spectrum, short guys - they have the incredibly difficult task of making themselves interesting, of reverting a decision she made 0.1 secs after laying eyes on him. Don't sugar coat it. You see a short man dating a decently looking woman - that's a fkn legend right there!

 

This leads me to believe tall men don't feel as much need of developing their personality in terms of being tolerant and patient, or wanting a relationship, or putting effort into fixing issues if they are in a relationship - because alternatives are easily accessible to him.

I also believe some women, knowing this, when really like the man, they'd be the ones making concessions to keep things rolling.

This is just an opinion, it's based on what I observe, but I am not claiming this an absolute universal truth.

[Erik30]

Only a percentage of women are short. In this already small group, the majority will be very vocal about their preference on tall, sometimes disproportionally tall, guys.

 

Yeah it seems the short girls are the ones who actually want the very tall guys. They don't make it about their own height, but they compare you with the guys their girlfriends are dating. I'm 5'9" and the only girl who ever made comments about my height was the short one...

[chillii]

Ex w was short and my woman now is short and l must admit although l love her just how she is l do worry about squashing her.

But yaknow , just look around in any mall or street as l always say and there's every combo you can imagine.

But l'd say most couples here are a guy around just guessing 5'8 to 5'10.

We work in cm here so just takin a punt on that but a lot shorter than me.

But l often notice too much shorter guys with some little honey and a few kids hanging of them , see that a lot.

So from what l've seen my whole life and l don't miss much, height doesn't matter one iota.

Edited January 10, 2019 by chillii

[elaine567]

Yeah it seems the short girls are the ones who actually want the very tall guys. They don't make it about their own height, but they compare you with the guys their girlfriends are dating. I'm 5'9" and the only girl who ever made comments about my height was the short one...

 

Short girls tend to wear high heels a lot to make them a "normal" height, so they tend to want guys 5-6" taller than them in heels which again is 5'10" ->

Edited January 11, 2019 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
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[Mike800]

I’m 5’8 and never had a problem attracting women

 

I think it’s more of an old thing old makes people more superficial where people just become a number.

 

In real life people meet each other and fall in love all the time where you’re not obsessed with numbers or stats.

 

You think a women who has a height filter online but meets a Guy a few inches below that in real life who she really likes she’s gonna go wait he’s not 5’9 or over so I can’t be with him.

 

Sure there’s some really shallow people who refuse to lower their standards at all but most people aren’t that strict about things.

 

Also most people idealize what their future partner will look like and end up with someone completely different. You can’t control who you fall for

[HiCrunchy]

In my experience short girls want a dude that is super tall. And many tall men somehow like to date tiny women.

 

I've seen so many couples with 1 foot in between them. It's like they like to emphasize each others height. With the men feeling really big and masculine and the woman feeling really small and feminine.

 

Tall girls are used to being the tall one so they might be more willing to compromise on height with a man and that's how they end of dating shorter men.

[chillii]

lt's not about feeling really big and masculine l don't even like being my height l always actually worried about being intimidating with women and as l was saying l also worry about squashing my woman.

Your not gonna marry someone or survive just because of their damn height, it was about all of her.

But she does turn me on to fk :bunny: but even that again is especially about all of her too, not height.

Edited January 11, 2019 by chillii

[sabaton]

Discussion has gone back and forth here on LS and in the wider world about how women filter on height when selecting a date or a mate. I've posted before about a documentary I saw on PBS that concluded male height was the primary physical characteristic in female selectivity and my own results of zero response to OLD messages sent to women whose profiles say they are seeking 'taller' men (cf. 30% response rate overall). I had an experience this morning that seems to reinforce that idea.

 

One of my Daily Matches on match.com was a 'familiar face'. I recognized the women as one who I had previously sent a message to on POF. She had read the message on POF (I keep a log) and not responded. I went back to POF to check and found that her profile was deleted - simply gone from POF. Okay - people leave OLD sites whenever they want. So I thought maybe she's trying a different site. POF does not present a 'seeking' height in profiles so there's no way to know what the person wants in the height of a partner. Match.com does present a seeking height. When receiving a Daily Match on match.com, it is necessary to drill into the person's full profile to send a contact message or to find out what height they're seeking. So I did .... I'm 5'8". She's seeking 5'10" and above. Incidentally all the other 'ducks line up'. I take her height requirement as a sufficient explanation for why she did not respond on POF. I didn't bother to send a contact message on match.

 

 

Then stop meeting women online and instead meet women in real life?

 

Or you could move to Countries where height isn't all that important to women?

 

I'm 5'8'' and that's only when my posture is perfect, which most of the time ain't. Most of the women here are 5'7''+ with many being 5'9''.

 

I've dated and hooked-up mostly with conventionally attractive women at 5'8'' barefoot, with them starting to wear 6 inches heel on request, to make me happy(I like going to nightclubs with them and having the tall guys wonder what they see in me).

 

I've been been approached by conventionally sexually attractive women aged 18-22(the age when women are at their most picky where it concerns physical looks in men) and I didn't have to be rich or be famous or have an 8inches long penis for them to date me or hook-up with me.

 

When women are used to tall men(these women are Germans, Dutch, Swedes, Finnish, Icelandic etc) they stop caring all that much about height, and when the women themselves are tall on average, it's not like they're going to expect a man to be 6 feet tall, or they're going to go a long time without having sex or luck in finding a boyfriend if they were so adamant about the man's height.

 

Plus, one of the advantages of dating tall women is that their dating pool is lowered as there aren't that many men who are comfortable with dating a woman their own height or taller than them. It's quite hilarious how men cockblock themselves all the time.

 

Height makes a man more attractive than he is. But height on itself doesn't make a man hot. I've met many a guy who was tall and couldn't get laid even with overweight/obese women, and I've met many short guys who got laid easily.

 

attractive Women aren't even that picky when it comes to a man's face and body. Just keep that body fat at 10%(easy as hell) and take care of your skin and teeth.

 

Most men here are 5'8'' at 140-150lbs ten percentage body fat on the guys who are lazy and don't want to do physical work, and lower than that body fat for the guys who play soccer a few weekends and go out for a run every 2 days or so, and I've never met a guy who had much of a trouble getting young, attractive women, let alone ANYONE, SOMEONE, at all.

 

What women look first and foremost in a man is confidence. You have a full head of thick hair. Your skin is clear and naturally tanned. Your teeth are straight and white. You have wide shoulders and low body fat. You have a square-jawline and high cheekbones, and an Adonis belt. You are average-looking. The vast majority of the men around you look exactly like you do. Women are attracted to average men. So, how do you set yourself apart from the next guy? Just be funny and confident, and there will always be plenty of attractive women who'll want to date you, even if you have been working the same minimum wage job for the last 10 years and you still live with roomates at the age of 28.

Edited January 11, 2019 by sabaton

[sabaton]

I’m 5’8 and never had a problem attracting women

 

I think it’s more of an old thing old makes people more superficial where people just become a number.

 

In real life people meet each other and fall in love all the time where you’re not obsessed with numbers or stats.

 

You think a women who has a height filter online but meets a Guy a few inches below that in real life who she really likes she’s gonna go wait he’s not 5’9 or over so I can’t be with him.

 

Sure there’s some really shallow people who refuse to lower their standards at all but most people aren’t that strict about things.

 

Also most people idealize what their future partner will look like and end up with someone completely different. You can’t control who you fall for

 

Yeah, that's the thing. There is a forum I visit which is mostly populated by an overwhelming male population, with most being 15-30, and there's so much whining there about their height or whatever is, and when you talk to them a bit more, they eventually mention that they're like 5'6-5'9'' at 180lbs and 30% body fat.

 

Come on, bro. Why do they fixate on the height when the truth of why they can't get (attractive) women is staring at them in the face when they look at the mirror?

 

Here's the thing. Men would be much happier if they stopped dreaming about women out of their league.

 

If the guy is short but has an attractive face and body, there will be lots of attractive women who won't care about his height. If he's overweight but tall, women won't suddenly start throwing panties at him. If he's tall but ugly or bald and skinny as a P.O.W, women are not going to want him most of the time.

 

We can't do anything about our heights, or faces for the guys who had the bad luck of being born with a weak jawline or a recessive chin, but guys can easily change their bodies and develop a masculine, powerful frame that can easily attract many women. They won't be Victoria's secret models, but they be cute and skinny in many cases.

 

I've slept with women whose face was unattractive but whose body was smashing - you guys think women don't do the same with men???

 

Go to the gym and lift hard.

 

Best Of Strength Calisthenic Workout | Michael Vazquez

 

 

And women won't care that you don't tower over them when they're standing next to you.

 

or you guys can become rich. I remember going to a Smash bros ultimate tournament with a geeky friend of mine, and I saw this guy who was 5'5'' 200lbs with very high body fat and a neckbeard, engaged to marry a hot, 20 year old woman. Apparently he's made over 4 million dollars in his e-sport gaming career.

 

If ya can't get 'em panties drop with aesthetics - just throw money at them. It worked for Donald Trump after all Lol and for every elderly, unattractive rich man.

Edited January 11, 2019 by sabaton

[sabaton]

I don't understand why shorter guys worry about this stuff. There are just as many pretty short women as tall. I've heard most guys prefer short women over tall one anyway. I guess people just want what they can't have.

 

Because the short men who complain about their height are men who are out of shape, balding, or have an unattractive/plain face. You think Tom Cruise, James Franco, James Dean, Casey Affleck, Mark Wallenberg, Dave Franco, would've been virgins until their dying day had they not become Hollywood A-list actors?

 

What if Clark Gable and Cary Grant weren't 6'2'' and were instead 5'7''?

 

suddenly women wouldn't want them? Lmaoooo.

 

Guys, stop worrying about your height. Stop being insecure. You are not women. No woman is going to come to you and start being all sweet to you and letting you smash to make you feel better, that crap only happens to women, and to cute and fit women at that.

 

Hit the gym, mold your body into this -> https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/9S7AjhrY3Qn2UNgW2CCB064xX70/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/06/04/992/n/1922283/098360edccddc443_111311021/i/Pictures-Mark-Wahlberg-When-He-Marky-Mark.jpg

 

Or this body:

 

https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201615/rs_634x795-160205095017-634.henry-cavill-shirtless.2516.jpg?fit=inside|900:auto&output-quality=90

 

Or this one:

 

https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50010/1000180509/original/rodrigo-santoro-in-printed-swim-short-all-people-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces

 

and suddenly:

 

''oh, you're 5'6''?? I couldn't tell, I was trying to find my panties in the middle of this deluge that erupted as soon as I saw you shirtless'' lmaoooo

 

I don't understand why shorter guys worry about this stuff. There are just as many pretty short women as tall. I've heard most guys prefer short women over tall one anyway. I guess people just want what they can't have.

I'm 5'8'' on a good day and with perfect posture. I prefer tall women.

 

And the average height for women around here is 5'7'' to 5'9'' in any case. There are short women. I've dated some short women, but I've always gone for tall women most of the time. I once dated a 6'1'' woman whose dad was 7 feet tall and mom was 5'11''. Why? Maybe my subcounscious was thinking if I got her pregnant I might produce a tall son lmaoooo.

 

Bruh, when you enter the nightclub with a pretty girl who is 5'9''+, and then you convince her to get on those 6 inch heels, and you see all these tall guys hitting on her and she's coming home with you. There's no better feeling. Alright, I suppose a foursome with 4 Kim Kardashian clones is better, but I'll never get to experience that so..

Edited January 11, 2019 by sabaton

[thefooloftheyear]

Just like women, telling guys to "hit the gym" when they have shyt genetics, won't work...Just go to any gym, and you will find guys working their asses off for physiques that I wouldn't be happy with if I had been in a coma for 10 years and just woke up...

 

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shyt no matter how hard to try..

 

TFY

[Geraltt]

Just like women, telling guys to "hit the gym" when they have shyt genetics, won't work...Just go to any gym, and you will find guys working their asses off for physiques that I wouldn't be happy with if I had been in a coma for 10 years and just woke up...

 

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shyt no matter how hard to try..

 

TFY

TFY is correct on this. Unless you're a specific body type, almost all the high-protein diets and constant working out aren't going to make that much of a difference. So much of one's body type (among other things) is down to our genetics, and there's precious little we can do about it.

 

More on body types here: What Is Your Body Type?

[nospam99]

Then stop meeting women online and instead meet women in real life?

 

Or you could move to Countries where height isn't all that important to women?

 

LOL. OP here....

 

I started this thread to illustrate by ONE example a general phenomenon which affects the ease of men getting dates. That height is the single most significant physical factor (not the only one) in women's assessments of male attractiveness in Western cultures has been the conclusion of EVERY study I've seen. I've posted links to studies in other threads. You are welcome to post a link to a study that reaches a different conclusion - it would be interesting to see.

 

ALL the women I've met in real life (very few BTW. I'm 64 which probably affects how many and what kind of women I meet.) for years have either been butt ugly, attached (some of those are HOT), or appalled/creeped out that a man would take a pass at them on cold contact. So your advice to meet women in real life is not helpful. Qualification 1: I don't go to bars and only drink at all at events like weddings. Qualification 2: I feel uncomfortable enough in crowds to avoid them.

 

I am meeting 'enough' (about one per month) women online.

 

I am NOT moving to another country just to try to meet women who care less about a man's height than women in the Northeastern US do. So I flat out reject your advice to move to another country. NOT! a helpful idea. I expect you'd do better trying to sell that idea to a younger man without a house and lots of family living nearby.

[stillafool]

In my experience short girls want a dude that is super tall. And many tall men somehow like to date tiny women.

 

I've seen so many couples with 1 foot in between them. It's like they like to emphasize each others height. With the men feeling really big and masculine and the woman feeling really small and feminine.

 

Tall girls are used to being the tall one so they might be more willing to compromise on height with a man and that's how they end of dating shorter men.

 

Well I'm 5'6 (barefoot) and I don't know if that is considered tall for a woman but I've always been hit on and asked out by tall guys. However once I was leaving a club, was wearing 3-1/2" heels and this guy about 5'4 stopped me right in my tracks with his eyes and energy to the point I was completely struck and had to meet him. He was also incredible in bed. Nah, height has nothing to do with it.