Have women moved on from the jock/muscular type of guys?

[CautiouslyOptimistic]

There's a lid for (almost) every pot. What's your personality and attitude like?

[somanymistakes]

Different women have different tastes.

 

Well thanks for confirming that women are fickle.

 

The fact that two different women have two different opinions does not have anything to do with being 'fickle'.

 

Do you have trouble with the idea that they are individual people???

[CautiouslyOptimistic]

The fact that two different women have two different opinions does not have anything to do with being 'fickle'.

 

Do you have trouble with the idea that they are individual people???

 

I'm fine with being called "fickle." There's nothing wrong with being discerning. In fact, we all should be.

[elaine567]

I'm fine with being called "fickle." There's nothing wrong with being discerning. In fact, we all should be.

 

 

Yes, but to the guys who like formulas and rigid rules, it is all too confusing.

[Wallysbears]

I've never found overly fit/gym rat type guys attractive.

 

In shape? Yes. The veins popping muscle type? Nope.

[thefooloftheyear]

I've never found overly fit/gym rat type guys attractive.

 

In shape? Yes. The veins popping muscle type? Nope.

 

Eh...I guess not all women share your thinking..

 

 

I wonder who was responsible for mopping the floor after the interview,,,

 

TFY

[eleanorrigby]

Eh...I guess not all women share your thinking..

 

 

I wonder who was responsible for mopping the floor after the interview,,,

 

TFY

 

Nope, not me. That guy is far too bulky for my taste, overstuffed, yuck. I’d like to see him lean him down a good 15 pounds, maybe more, keep the definition, improve it even...

 

. *slurp*

 

 

This subject has been eye opening for me, I always knew what kind of body I liked but until I wrote it down I never realized that I must prefer male bodies and muscles that have been shaped by a sport or activity, rather than weight lifting muscles.

 

I like the litheness, the flexibility, the balance, the strong ripped, kind of undercover muscles that you get from dancing, martial arts, and the overall crazy fitness that rock climbers have. That sport brings out definition and musculature that you don’t even know is there, because of how they need to put every part of their body into it.

 

ETA: don’t care much for a swimmers body, the cold adds an extra layer of fat under the skin that hides the definition. Can’t stand a power lifter body, the stomach gets huge and distended to deal with the pressures of the lift.

 

Just thought of another delicious male body, the advanced yogi. Mmmmmmmmm

*fans self*

Edited December 26, 2018 by eleanorrigby

[MaleIntuition]

Nope, not me. That guy is far too bulky for my taste, overstuffed, yuck. I’d like to see him lean him down a good 15 pounds, maybe more, keep the definition, improve it even...

 

. *slurp*

 

 

This subject has been eye opening for me, I always knew what kind of body I liked but until I wrote it down I never realized that I must prefer male bodies and muscles that have been shaped by a sport or activity, rather than weight lifting muscles.

 

I like the litheness, the flexibility, the balance, the strong ripped, kind of undercover muscles that you get from dancing, martial arts, and the overall crazy fitness that rock climbers have. That sport brings out definition and musculature that you don’t even know is there, because of how they need to put every part of their body into it.

 

ETA: don’t care much for a swimmers body, the cold adds an extra layer of fat under the skin that hides the definition. Can’t stand a power lifter body, the stomach gets huge and distended to deal with the pressures of the lift.

 

Just thought of another delicious male body, the advanced yogi. Mmmmmmmmm

*fans self*

 

You really can’t know how someone got their muscles. Most serious martial artist and rock climbers spend their fair share of time in the gym. The common denominator among those two is that they are striving for very low fat percentages.

[eleanorrigby]

You really can’t know how someone got their muscles. Most serious martial artist and rock climbers spend their fair share of time in the gym. The common denominator among those two is that they are striving for very low fat percentages.

 

I didn’t say they don’t spend anytime on lifting weights, I’ve said I enjoy the look of muscles primarily developed in those ways I’ve mentioned rather than bulky bodies built by Golds Gym.

 

Also I disagree with you, the different sports and exercises build specifically shaped bodies, and its easy to see the differences.

Edited December 26, 2018 by eleanorrigby

[MaleIntuition]

I didn’t say they don’t spend anytime on lifting weights, I’ve said I enjoy the look of muscles primarily developed in those ways I’ve mentioned rather than bulky bodies built by Golds Gym.

 

Also I disagree with you, the different sports and exercises build specifically shaped bodies, and its easy to see the differences.

 

Contrary to popular beliefs pushed by random evening magazines; muscles can only change size, not shape. Shape is determined by genetics. Sure you can workout in a way that could give you certain imbalances (in size). Rock climbers, for example, will typically have underdeveloped chests compared to their backs if they’ve neglected their gym time.

 

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/IYA2t

Not sure how relevant, but this is Christian Bale from American Phsyco to Batman. I assume you prefer the former.

[eleanorrigby]

Contrary to popular beliefs pushed by random evening magazines; muscles can only change size, not shape. Shape is determined by genetics. Sure you can workout in a way that could give you certain imbalances (in size). Rock climbers, for example, will typically have underdeveloped chests compared to their backs if they’ve neglected their gym time.

 

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/IYA2t

Not sure how relevant, but this is Christian Bale from American Phsyco to Batman. I assume you prefer the former.

 

You and I are pretty much in agreement.

Different workouts give different shaped bodies. Can you tell the difference between a woman’s body shaped by ballet and one shaped by swimming?

Bet you can tell the difference between a thin girl who works out and one who’s thin from dieting.

 

There are marked differences in bodies depending on the forces they are exposed to over and over.

 

FWIW I’ll take the American Psycho Christian Bale body. Lean, tight, and I can see strength.

The Reign of Fire and Batman Begins bodies are too bulky for my tastes, too heavy looking, slow.

The Fighter and Machinist bodies are obviously emaciated and weak.

[Wallysbears]

See, I like the Dark Knight Christian Bale. Strong but understated.

[eleanorrigby]

See, I like the Dark Knight Christian Bale. Strong but understated.

 

Remember when Tom Hardy bulked up like crazy to play Bane? Ewww

I didn’t care for that body at all.

[Wallysbears]

Had to go google! LOL

 

 

Its the neck. He looks like he has a hunchback to me!

[littleblackheart]

Not sure what a 'jock muscular type' entails; also not entirely certain that this is a very prominent prerequisite past a certain stage in your life, truthfully. I live in a place where most people take relative good care of themselves though, for perspective.

 

I personally couldn't care less - I like a very healthy mind with a healthy outlook on life in a healthy body; I'm not really fussed about the size of the muscles. My observations, looking at my close friends' SOs, is that a supportive, emotionally stable, kind, open-minded man, physically attractive relative to individual tastes rates way above a muscly man for a long-term partner (bonus point if he doesn't take himself seriously).

[eleanorrigby]

I guess my point is, a nerdy intellectual needn’t start doing power reps and add 30 pounds of muscle mass to catch my eye. He’d lose points with me asthetically with that body.

Rather, he should go for the body he prefers to wear and attract the women who look for that.

[MaleIntuition]

You and I are pretty much in agreement.

Different workouts give different shaped bodies. Can you tell the difference between a woman’s body shaped by ballet and one shaped by swimming?

Bet you can tell the difference between a thin girl who works out and one who’s thin from dieting.

 

There are marked differences in bodies depending on the forces they are exposed to over and over.

 

FWIW I’ll take the American Psycho Christian Bale body. Lean, tight, and I can see strength.

The Reign of Fire and Batman Begins bodies are too bulky for my tastes, too heavy looking, slow.

The Fighter and Machinist bodies are obviously emaciated and weak.

My point with showing the Christian Bale comparison is that one man can achieve vastly different looks by changing his body composition (which is accomplished mostly in the gym and from diet and of course (in this case) vitamin s).

 

Don’t know much about ballet, I assume they will strive for low fat percentage whilst a swimmer will be less concerned about absolute weight. I think both looks could be achieved by just going to the local gym.

[eleanorrigby]

My point with showing the Christian Bale comparison is that one man can achieve vastly different looks by changing his body composition (which is accomplished mostly in the gym and from diet and of course (in this case) vitamin s).

 

Don’t know much about ballet, I assume they will strive for low fat percentage whilst a swimmer will be less concerned about absolute weight. I think both looks could be achieved by just going to the local gym.

 

Agree with the first point but not the last. A gym body is a gym body and looks quite different from a ballet or swimmers body.

It’s not just the body fat percentage, it’s how the muscles are elongated vs tight and compact, subcutaneous fat, flexibility, how they move etc

All of these things coming together to form something that I perceive as either gross (Dark Knight Rises bane) or delicious (Brandon Lee Crow)

Edited December 26, 2018 by eleanorrigby

[MaleIntuition]

Agree with the first point but not the last. A gym body is a gym body and looks quite different from a ballet or swimmers body.

It’s not just the body fat percentage, it’s how the muscles are elongated vs tight and compact, subcutaneous fat, etc

 

Hm, you have some strange bias towards the gym. I’m not talking about professional body builders (most are not clean) nor powerlifters. If a random/average “nerd” want to achieve the American phsyco Christian Bale look he need to hit the gym hard for a couple of years while controlling his diet. You really can’t control how individual muscles will look - only their size.

 

Professional martial artist, swimmers, sprinters, soccer players, are also lifting weights, simply because it’s the most efficient (legal) way to build muscles and strength.

 

Another factor that might be a bit confusing is that professional athletes are best in their sport because they have that body type, not necessarily as a result of it. Big feet’s are good for swimmers, you don’t get bigger feet’s by swimming .

[eleanorrigby]

I think you have a strange compulsion to refute or miss my point.

 

I can see the differences in how bodies I like are shaped by the sport they play or workout they do.

 

If some guy can figure out how to achieve the body that turns me on exclusively at the gym with a specific workout, more power to him. I reserve the right to still prefer the body that was shaped primarily by actually performing a certain sport etc to the one acheived by a “dancers body” workout.

[MaleIntuition]

I think you have a strange compulsion to refute or miss my point.

 

I can see the differences in how bodies I like are shaped by the sport they play or workout they do.

 

If some guy can figure out how to achieve the body that turns me on exclusively at the gym with a specific workout, more power to him. I reserve the right to still prefer the body that was shaped primarily by actually performing a certain sport etc to the one acheived by a “dancers body” workout.

 

https://www.moviestore.com/brandon-lee-213339/

So what sport did he perform then?

 

My guess is about 12 month in the gym with at least 3-6 month with a caloric deficiency of 500 per day to achieve that look. Combined with the right genes and good lightning of course. (Depending on the starting point of course, this is again mostly very low fat percentage)

 

I’m not missing your point. I’m disagreeing with it.

[eleanorrigby]

*waves white flag*

 

Fine...cool, whatever tools a man utilizes including exclusively the gym to gain a body that looks and moves like Brandon Lees, are just fine with me, I appreciate the effort.

 

Just do it, and get it, and if you happen to be a nerdy intellectual on top of it all, even better.

[bradt93]

Nope. But you're allowed to think this stuff over Christmas when it's time to sit around stuffing your face with chocolate and becoming glued to the tv or the computer. 2019 will be upon us before you know it, and you know very well that when once it is you should be getting your ass back to the gym instead of sitting around dreaming up excuses to avoid exercising.

So a guy who has just average weight is a problem? No meat on their bones at all? Well, you have to be wrong, because some of my facebook friends are married to average weight guys.

[Andy_K]

Brandon Lee in that picture is also exhibiting some great genetics... full eight pack of muscles visible with perfect symmetry, high pectoral insertions, long biceps. My point is, 90% of guys would not ever be able to look like that, no matter how they trained or what they ate.

[WomenWubber]

When a woman says she's turned off by muscular guys, ask her what does a muscular guy looks to her and what a "normal" guy looks like. Enlightenment will ensue, or at least it did for me.

Edited December 27, 2018 by WomenWubber