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I believe many women have "types" and that type is often influenced by the men in her life, father, brothers, uncles, teachers, classmates, lovers, bfs, partners, husbands...

We are thus drawn to who we feel most comfortable with.

That could be muscular jocks or it could be short fat bald guys, thin guys, tall dark and handsome guys, blond blue eyed guys, small nerdy guys, guys with dad bods, or any number of other types...

The "type" may not be set in stone either and may vary with experience gained.

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I believe many women have "types" and that type is often influenced by the men in her life, father, brothers, uncles, teachers, classmates, lovers, bfs, partners, husbands...

We are thus drawn to who we feel most comfortable with.

That could be muscular jocks or it could be short fat bald guys, thin guys, tall dark and handsome guys, blond blue eyed guys, small nerdy guys, guys with dad bods, or any number of other types...

The "type" may not be set in stone either and may vary with experience gained.

 

 

I dunno....I guess to some degree..but...

 

Just like a lot of guys....You tend to "like" what you think you can attract, or that which is in your league.....There is no point in some size 18/20 woman with below average looks, seeking out a guy with a great physique...The possibilities would be so slim...So she'll say she prefers "teddy bear' types...

 

Practically every guy on Earth would agree that someone like J-Lo would be "their type", but at the end of the day, they have to be reasonable about what they could possibly attract...

 

Back when I had FB account, the women on there would occasionally post a meme or photo of some stud for the other women to drool over...It was never a "nerdy type, teddy bear, skinny," whatever type...It was always a jacked out guy with tattoos and low body fat..100-% pct of the time.

 

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I dunno....I guess to some degree..but...

 

Just like a lot of guys....You tend to "like" what you think you can attract, or that which is in your league.....There is no point in some size 18/20 woman with below average looks, seeking out a guy with a great physique...The possibilities would be so slim...So she'll say she prefers "teddy bear' types...

 

Practically every guy on Earth would agree that someone like J-Lo would be "their type", but at the end of the day, they have to be reasonable about what they could possibly attract...

 

Back when I had FB account, the women on there would occasionally post a meme or photo of some stud for the other women to drool over...It was never a "nerdy type, teddy bear, skinny," whatever type...It was always a jacked out guy with tattoos and low body fat..100-% pct of the time.

 

TFY

 

Interesting...the only times i see those from my female friends are when there are puppies, etc. in the picture.

 

Now my gay male friends? LOL.

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Interesting...the only times i see those from my female friends are when there are puppies, etc. in the picture.

 

I'm not a big FB user but I know that not one of my female friends has ever posted pics of muscular men - like you, I get pics of puppies and kittens.

 

I also just can't wrap my head around the logic that says a woman who isn't particularly attracted to muscular men has to be overweight or in some sort of specific 'league'? That makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

I mean I'm sure there are women of any shapes and sizes who will like muscles, but I haven't met one woman in real life looking for muscles on a man as the deciding factor to look for in a partner. Physically attractive to them, yes; muscular, not really.

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well....

 

Considering I worked in a club that hosted bachelor/bachelorette parties, the guys that worked the parties for the ladies were all jacked and muscled up.. none of them less than probably 225# min//

 

Considering it was in the best interests of the club/party organizer to provide the best entertainment possible for the female patrons/guests and they had no idea what types of women would come, I guess that tells you something..

 

There were no dad bods, no nerds, no lanky swimmer types, no hairy backed teddy bear types, etc...And no puppies or kittens either...:laugh:

 

But they sure did have a good time....:lmao::lmao:

 

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well....

 

Considering I worked in a club that hosted bachelor/bachelorette parties, the guys that worked the parties for the ladies were all jacked and muscled up.. none of them less than probably 225# min//

 

Considering it was in the best interests of the club/party organizer to provide the best entertainment possible for the female patrons/guests and they had no idea what types of women would come, I guess that tells you something..

 

There were no dad bods, no nerds, no lanky swimmer types, no hairy backed teddy bear types, etc...And no puppies or kittens either...:laugh:

 

But they sure did have a good time....:lmao::lmao:

 

TFY

 

Sure, that sounds like a fun night out as a one-off. But do you think the female guests were queuing up at that club to find their next life-partner or were they just there for the show? Were they all of a particular weight and specific league?

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well....

 

Considering I worked in a club that hosted bachelor/bachelorette parties, the guys that worked the parties for the ladies were all jacked and muscled up.. none of them less than probably 225# min//

 

Considering it was in the best interests of the club/party organizer to provide the best entertainment possible for the female patrons/guests and they had no idea what types of women would come, I guess that tells you something..

 

There were no dad bods, no nerds, no lanky swimmer types, no hairy backed teddy bear types, etc...And no puppies or kittens either...:laugh:

 

But they sure did have a good time....:lmao::lmao:

 

TFY

 

Male dancers/strip club? It couldn't get much more cliche than that.

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Sure, that sounds like a fun night out as a one-off. But do you think the female guests were queuing up at that club to find their next life-partner or were they just there for the show? Were they all of a particular weight and specific league?

 

That's missing the point though... women are less likely to go for that physical type when picking a life partner because they aren't attractive enough themselves to get and keep him, or because they mentally perceive some other disadvantage to that look (e.g effort required to maintain it, makes them feel insecure) not because it's not what they're most physically attracted to.

 

All other things being equal, a vast majority of women are more attracted to a reasonably muscular guy with low body fat than any other type

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That's missing the point though... women are less likely to go for that physical type when picking a life partner because they aren't attractive enough themselves to get and keep him, not because it's not what they're most physically attracted to.

 

All other things being equal, a vast majority of women are more attracted to a reasonably muscular guy with low body fat than any other type

 

That may well be what muscular guys with low body fat and nothing else going for them like to think that is what women want, but that is simply not true. Most people, when looking for a life-partner, consider other factors than 'muscles' to be much more important. As as said in my previous post, physically attractive to them, yes; muscular, not really.

 

Some do - by all means not all, or even most.

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That's missing the point though... women are less likely to go for that physical type when picking a life partner because they aren't attractive enough themselves to get and keep him, or because they mentally perceive some other disadvantage to that look (e.g effort required to maintain it, makes them feel insecure) not because it's not what they're most physically attracted to.

 

All other things being equal, a vast majority of women are more attracted to a reasonably muscular guy with low body fat than any other type

 

 

It's pointless to debate the point, buddy...But you hit it right on the head..

 

Men like "trophy" women...The better looking they can get, the better for them...Women tend to date down, because of the reasons mentioned, plus they despise other women paying attention/eyeing up their man...So they go for the safer route...They can keep a better control on them in that case..

 

They also say size doesn't matter while they keep a dildo bigger than their forearm in their nightstand...:laugh:

 

TFY

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Maybe it has to do with where women are in life and/or what they are looking for.

 

 

Back in our 20's? Yeah...the 'hot' guys were fun arm candy. That's about all they were though and I don't think any of my girlfriends or I thought much more of them than that.

 

By late 20's and early 30's? Our tastes had changed. Gone were the summer flings and boy toys and crazy weekend guys...and we started dating real men.

 

That's when the 'grown up' men became more attractive to us. We were out of college, starting careers, becoming more responsible and wanted men that complimented that in our lives. Not Jersey Shore guys who were more concerned with gym, tan, laundry than saving, career, future.

 

By early to mid 30's those were the guys myself and all of my friends married. And had kids with.

 

So I guess the answer to the question is "it depends"? On how old, who, where and what a woman's priorities are as to what she finds 'attractive' at any given point in time in her life.

 

Physical appearance, IMHO, becomes a lot LESS important as people age.

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Wallysbears, you’re wasting your proverbial breath. Who cares if you are a woman providing insight into how other women might think when there are plenty of men here to tell you you’re wrong? You’re in a lose-lose situation, so just save your energy.

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Maybe it has to do with where women are in life and/or what they are looking for.

 

 

Back in our 20's? Yeah...the 'hot' guys were fun arm candy. That's about all they were though and I don't think any of my girlfriends or I thought much more of them than that.

 

By late 20's and early 30's? Our tastes had changed. Gone were the summer flings and boy toys and crazy weekend guys...and we started dating real men.

 

That's when the 'grown up' men became more attractive to us. We were out of college, starting careers, becoming more responsible and wanted men that complimented that in our lives. Not Jersey Shore guys who were more concerned with gym, tan, laundry than saving, career, future.

 

By early to mid 30's those were the guys myself and all of my friends married. And had kids with.

 

So I guess the answer to the question is "it depends"? On how old, who, where and what a woman's priorities are as to what she finds 'attractive' at any given point in time in her life.

 

Physical appearance, IMHO, becomes a lot LESS important as people age.

 

OK...fine...I can buy this...;)

 

I think the point I am(and andy) are making is what some of you are saying(or implying) is that a guy with a shytty body is actually preferable to a guy that is fit/muscular...If all else was equal...

 

That makes no sense....I mean let's say your h(and this is just a hypothetical-for the sake of this discussion), was out of shape and just let himself go...You love him either way, I get that, but what if he decided one morning to get in shape and hit the gym, and he transformed his body into one of more muscular/fit shape..But he is still the same guy...I would think most women would find their guy then more sexually appealing, or would you just tell him forget it, now that he did this, you aren't attracted to him anymore, and he should go back to the couch and the donuts??

 

Or let's say you found yourself divorced...Would your first choice be the guys that are "age appropriate" (or worse) in physical appearance, or would you try and find the most fit or built guy you can get??

 

Its really no different for guys either...If asked and they give an honest answer, they want a small/petite woman, preferably ample breasts, shapely ass, etc..If they couldn't achieve that for whatever reason, they wouldn't knock it, they would just accept that they get the best they can and thats that.....

 

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I find vanity in men very demasculating?

 

Not sure how to explain that.

 

Gym for health? Cool.

 

To look better? Eh...really? That’s a chick thing to me

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You tend to "like" what you think you can attract, or that which is in your league....

 

I would tend to agree with this statement. Unless there are some mitigating factors, like you just won the POWERBALL or something.

 

In general, if you are a (4), then you'll basically attract a (3 - 5).

 

To OP: So you don't have 6-pack abs, what would be wrong with dating a "Curvy" or "Larger" woman?? Personally, I've dated all kinds of women from 98 pounds to 305 pounds, from 4' 10" to 6' 1". As long as I'm enjoying myself and having fun, I "go with the flow". For the record, when I was dating the 305 pound woman, I was training for a marathon and weighed 158. She was a great person, we had a lot of fun and we dated until her job transferred her. So my advice...

 

"And if you can't be with the one you love honey, Love the one you're with" - Stephen Stills

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I liked the hot guys when I was in my 20s. Couldn't care less now, they actually turn me off and I swipe left on people who have pictures showing muscles. I like manly men, but on the chubbier/husky side.

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Of course a fit version of yourself will be considered more attractive than an unfit version of yourself..?

 

Fairly certain regular exercise correlates with higher responsibility as well, it’s not really one or the other; especially when we get older; 30+.

 

Saving for the future, eating healthy and exercise are all investments for your future and signals that you are accepting delayed gratification.

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I dunno....I guess to some degree..but...

 

Just like a lot of guys....You tend to "like" what you think you can attract, or that which is in your league.....There is no point in some size 18/20 woman with below average looks, seeking out a guy with a great physique...The possibilities would be so slim...So she'll say she prefers "teddy bear' types...

 

Practically every guy on Earth would agree that someone like J-Lo would be "their type", but at the end of the day, they have to be reasonable about what they could possibly attract...

 

There IS some truth to the idea that people naturally gravitate towards what they think is 'their level'. But it's not the be-all and end-all.

 

First, there's really nothing that you can say "practically every guy on earth" about. For starters some men are gay. :laugh: And when you recognise that some men aren't attracted to women at all, you can also recognise that some men are attracted to different kinds of women. Some like 'em tall, some like 'em short, some like big boobs, some like tiny ones. Some men like women as skinny as possible. Some men find that gross because they think women "look like boys" if they don't have enough curves.

 

There's also the matter of shared values, which is related to not being on the same level, but not quite the same thing. If you hate the gym and hate sports, you may not want to be involved with a guy who is clearly Mr. Gym Muscles, because you figure he is probably going to be all about sports all the time. So even if you find him physically attractive, you may not want to date him. But if you're the sort of woman who hates the gym and hates sports, you're probably also not very fit yourself. So from that angle you might say they're not on the same level, which is true, but they're also not compatible.

 

Back when I had FB account, the women on there would occasionally post a meme or photo of some stud for the other women to drool over...It was never a "nerdy type, teddy bear, skinny," whatever type...It was always a jacked out guy with tattoos and low body fat..100-% pct of the time.

 

And all the women in my social media feed would post a guy like that 0% of the time. Jacked out with tattoos? Sorry, but in my circles that would be perceived as extremely low social class and therefore not something any respectable woman would find attractive. (I'm not saying that's FAIR! But that's how it is among every woman I know.)

 

Much more common among the women I know would be a clean-cut guy, fit but not overly ripped, no tattoos, and quite possibly wearing glasses or holding a book, to show that he's hot AND smart/sophisticated.

 

Among younger women, the common thing I see posted is anime boys. The ones who are super skinny, with feminine faces and long hair.

 

Different folks, different strokes.

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Different folks, different strokes.

 

The literal thesis statement of this thread. Nothing needed to be said beyond this.

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OK...fine...I can buy this...;)

 

I think the point I am(and andy) are making is what some of you are saying(or implying) is that a guy with a shytty body is actually preferable to a guy that is fit/muscular...If all else was equal...

 

No one's actually said or implied that...Muscular, fit or attractive are not even synonyms, in any event.

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First, there's really nothing that you can say "practically every guy on earth" about. For starters some men are gay. :laugh: And when you recognise that some men aren't attracted to women at all, you can also recognise that some men are attracted to different kinds of women. Some like 'em tall, some like 'em short, some like big boobs, some like tiny ones. Some men like women as skinny as possible. Some men find that gross because they think women "look like boys" if they don't have enough curves.
Do we really have to qualify it as hetero men? :rolleyes: But yeah, I stand behind my previous statement...Some women like ....Abigail Ratchford, J Lo, etc...are pretty much every guys idea of a physical ideal in a woman..

 

There's also the matter of shared values, which is related to not being on the same level, but not quite the same thing. If you hate the gym and hate sports, you may not want to be involved with a guy who is clearly Mr. Gym Muscles, because you figure he is probably going to be all about sports all the time. So even if you find him physically attractive, you may not want to date him. But if you're the sort of woman who hates the gym and hates sports, you're probably also not very fit yourself. So from that angle you might say they're not on the same level, which is true, but they're also not compatible.

 

Goes back to what Andy said...They say they dont like those guys not because they aren't appealing, but because they just don't have what it takes to attract/.keep one...Its as simple as that...Guys can admit women are out of their league, for some reason, women would rather say...."EW...all that rippling muscle is sooo gross!"...Please...spare me.:rolleyes:

 

And all the women in my social media feed would post a guy like that 0% of the time. Jacked out with tattoos? Sorry, but in my circles that would be perceived as extremely low social class and therefore not something any respectable woman would find attractive. (I'm not saying that's FAIR! But that's how it is among every woman I know.)
Much more common among the women I know would be a clean-cut guy, fit but not overly ripped, no tattoos, and quite possibly wearing glasses or holding a book, to show that he's hot AND smart/sophisticated.

Among younger women, the common thing I see posted is anime boys. The ones who are super skinny, with feminine faces and long hair.

 

Different folks, different strokes.

 

 

As for anime guys, bookworms, teddy bears, puppies and kittens...Please explain to me why a multi billion dollar company decides to produce this type of commercial...Maybe they should have listened to you guys instead...Maybe they really had to look hard to find the 0% of women you are talking about...:lmao:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrj2JOm96js

 

TFY

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.Please explain to me why a multi billion dollar company decides to produce this type of commercial...Maybe they should have listened to you guys instead...Maybe they really had to look hard to find the 0% of women you are talking about...:lmao:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrj2JOm96js

 

TFY

 

 

That is football, and football in the UK is a lower class kind of a sport and a bit sexist.

I guess the commercial is aimed at guys not women.

Women, fast cars, football... every guys dream...

Ronaldo is an alleged rapist too...

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That is football, and football in the UK is a lower class kind of a sport and a bit sexist.

I guess the commercial is aimed at guys not women.

Women, fast cars, football... every guys dream...

Ronaldo is an alleged rapist too...

 

That commercial seemed more sexist against Ronaldo. No consent to have his picture taken nearly nude LET ALONE posted to social media for the world to see. Talk about an invasion of privacy.

 

In the USA we're innocent until proven guilty. Hence why I bolded ALLEGED.

 

As for the original question; I enjoy looking at muscular men but find myself attracted more to the nerdy type. Sometimes they have fit bodies, most often times not.

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That is football, and football in the UK is a lower class kind of a sport and a bit sexist.

I guess the commercial is aimed at guys not women.

Women, fast cars, football... every guys dream...

Ronaldo is an alleged rapist too...

 

It was for women...and maybe gay guys...

 

Not to veer off topic, but could you imagine what the outcry would be if the same commercial was done with the genders reversed?? Ouch...:eek:

 

 

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It was for women...and maybe gay guys...

 

Not to veer off topic, but could you imagine what the outcry would be if the same commercial was done with the genders reversed?? Ouch...:eek:

TFY

 

It was an ad for a football channel. Yes, some women like football but the support is overwhelmingly male...

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