GuySimple Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 SUSSS…..gerrrrrate sh*t man. SUSSS…what was the question? SUSSS…right. SUSSS….nice hat man. Pot’s no more dangerous than if you go out to a bar and drink a case of beer and smoke a pack of cigarettes. The rest are another story. Mr. Australia is full of it and probably not telling the truth. Anyone who has a known drug habit these days in the professional work world is generally dealt with by being put on rehab. Link to post Share on other sites
bab Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Anyone who has a known drug habit these days in the professional work world is generally dealt with by being put on rehab. I took a business law class once that the prof said you should fire anyone on the first instance of drug/alcohol use. He said that if you sent them to rehab, it became a documented disease and they could file for disability from you forever. Don't know if this is true, but it's what he taught us. Link to post Share on other sites
RecordProducer Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I took a business law class once that the prof said you should fire anyone on the first instance of drug/alcohol use. Only if you come drunk or stoned at work or you use any of it while at work. What you're doing at home is nobody's business. Just like many companies will fire you if you have sex/watch porn at work, but not if you do it at home. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetbrokensoul Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I started using drugs when I was out of high school and in the military. I started with pot, then became a regular weekend user of acid and ex. I can honestly now I was young and stupid and I WAS VERY LUCKY I DIDN"T GET CAUGHT in the military with the random drug testing. I never tried heroine or crack and only tried coke once or twice. NOTHING WITH NEEDLES. I stopped doing the acid and ex 3 years later but still smoked pot VERY regularly which made me pretty lazy and had regular mood swings. I then experimented with meth and used to use it every day for almost a year. I was a "functioning addict". But I think it made my life WORSE. I stopped all drugs before I had my child and that was a quick wake up call. I have seen many people's lives ruined with drugs and including my childs father. He has been clean for a few years but very lazy and collects disability for his "sickness". I tried pot a few times after I had my child(never around him) and it always made me paranoid, maybe my hormones were all crazy. I can handle my alcohol, never a problem with me, and I rarely drink now. I don't do any drugs now. But I wouldn't have a problem with any of my friends or anyone doing a little pot every now and then. I am from the midwest but experimented with most in Southern California. I don't agree now of course of doing any of these other drugs as I am edumacated and I was very naive then and came from a very strict upbringing. I definetly rebelled. It never made me unfaithful, I never did anything I didn't want to do otherwise. It is not a "fun" thing to do every now and then if you don't have CONTROL. I would never want my son to do the things I did and I will educate him about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Yamaha Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Way to many over the years. I have been clean now for 10 years and my life is so much the better. I love not having that craving for a high. Don't escape from life, embrace life. Link to post Share on other sites
bab Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Only if you come drunk or stoned at work or you use any of it while at work. What you're doing at home is nobody's business. Just like many companies will fire you if you have sex/watch porn at work, but not if you do it at home. I'm not sure about how it works in Europe, but tons of places in the US do random drug testing, so even if you are doing it at home, it can still get you fired. Link to post Share on other sites
RecordProducer Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 I'm not sure about how it works in Europe, but tons of places in the US do random drug testing, so even if you are doing it at home, it can still get you fired. Officially? Like they can make you do the test and if you show positive for pot (e.g. you did it last night) they can fire you? I don't do drugs at all, but I am surprised. I know jobs that include work with children make you do this test when you apply; it's probably done in some other areas as well, but I don't see why someone would have the right to control you to that extent at a regular job. I would refuse to pee for my boss if they are content with my work. If they are not - I'd be pleased to correct myself or leave. Link to post Share on other sites
bab Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Yep. During college I worked at a grocery store and I had to take a drug test to get the job and then we got randomly drug tested once while I was working there. I passed . The thing that sucks is that pot stays in your system for a couple weeks, so it is really a ridiculous argument to say that you are stoned on the job just because your pee turned up positive for weed. Link to post Share on other sites
RecordProducer Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 The thing that sucks is that pot stays in your system for a couple weeks, so it is really a ridiculous argument to say that you are stoned on the job just because your pee turned up positive for weed.Right. And it's not like you have a hangover in the morning after. In any case, I would refuse to give my piss to my boss. What is it? A new pervert trend to collect piss from your employees? Can you sue them for sexual harassment based on that? I would tell my boss: "I will give you my piss if you promise to drink it!" Do you think I'd get fired after that? By the way, are employees allowed to ask bosses to do the test? I didn't think so. Link to post Share on other sites
Tangerina Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 1. What's your opinion on doing drugs? 2. Is it just a fun thing to do every now and then? 3. Does it make you unfaithful? 4. Is it ok for parents or your partner to have to "odd line"? 1. I think it is a personal choice for everyone to make, and they shouldn't impose it on other people... which I think extends to ruining relationships over drugs... but if people can use them in a responsible and moderate way I could care less what they do.... I personally only drink and do weed... I think alcohol is a much more dangerous drug than weed, in that it has a much greater ability to ruin lives/kill you... but weed doesn't do much for me and I never crave it and it is bad for my lungs so I only do i0-44(my pet rat typed that last word) it in certain social situations. I want to try shrooms sometime just for the experience, but that is as far as I feel comfortable taking my body and mind with drugs... 2. Yah... I would never want drugs to have a larger role in my life than that, I'm all about the healthy, clearheaded living... 3. Unfaithful? No... unless you choose drugs over your SO... which is just sad and a bad choice any day of the week... if that is the case then it has gone too far... I do sometimes worry about my boy drinking too much or taking E at a rave and "things happening" but I know that is just paranoia on my part... 4. My boy does way more than me, as in I am a health freak and he has done DXM and lots of painkillers and tried coke once and is planning on trying LSD soon... and he smokes weed a lot.... I can't say it makes me happy, but he isn't addicted to anything or uses anything habitually... except weed, I guess.... and it doesn't interfere with our relationship so I just let him make his own decisions about it, I firmly believe in live and let live UNLESS things are to the point where it is affecting a partner... he does know I don't totally like it, though... I told him it is analagous to how although it makes him nervous that I go into the city alone sometimes he wouldn't tell me not to do it because the risk of something bad happening is small compared to how it wouldn't be cool for him to try to rule my life... I just want him to be careful with his brain because it is his best part and I do know that he respects himself which is the important thing.... Link to post Share on other sites
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