Madame Sophie

[Art_Critic]

LS integrity? You are allowed to misrepresent facts and make these facts up, and that is considered integer?

[/b]

 

 

D' On this thread you are splitting f-ing hairs..

 

 

This is from the LS Community Guidelines :

 

Civility and respect

We expect that all community participants interact in a manner conducive to free-flowing, collaborative participation from all visitors, fostering an environment free of harassment, character attacks, and other forms of individual and group berating. We realize that all members may not share the same definitions on issues surrounding personal morality, appropriate behavior, and other sensitive topics of discussion that often appear on the site; we encourage all to voice their own opinions while refraining from criticizing other participants for the perspective they hold. Each person that posts on the forum is to be treated with the utmost respect and civility regardless of how absurd or ridiculous the opinion expressed might seem to you from your perspective.

 

Personal attacks against other participants will not be tolerated under any circumstances. We define personal attacks as posted comments which are intended to provoke, demean, or ridicule another participant. It is inevitable that members will sometimes disagree in their responses to any given problem, and LoveShack.org encourages healthy debate comprised of constructive questions and criticisms, so long as they pertain to the post and thread at hand. Personal dislike of another member has no place in any post, on any thread.

 

We expect that all participants will respond to posts in their specific context, not to the person who has posted. While opinions may be formed of various members based on what they have posted in the past, any response to any particular submission should be grounded in what has been posted in that thread. Past disagreements should not be resurrected in new threads. It is important that criticism be directed at what is stated in a post ("I don't like your idea") rather than at the individual making the statement ("I don't like you").

[d'Arthez]

Let me continue to split "F-ing hairs." If no reference is made in the quote to a poster, it is from the LS community Guidelines.

 

This is from the LS Community Guidelines :

 

Civility and respect

We expect that all community participants interact in a manner conducive to free-flowing, collaborative participation from all visitors, fostering an environment free of harassment, character attacks, and other forms of individual and group berating.

Yep, and it is clearly true that RP's ideas that OP is imagining BPD is not included in that. - that is also an attack on the character of OP.

You want to believe you do[have BPD], because it's easier for you to think that it was something else that is guilty fo your improper behavior. You are merely looking for excuses.

I get the impression that you are trying to accept the line of least resistance in order to "wash your hands" from your sins.

Why are these attacks on the integrity of OP allowed, and when someone calls RP on that attack, then it is suddenly personal on RP? Please elaborate. Is it written in the stars or something? Should I get a reading with the help of tarot-cards? Please enlighten me.

 

We realize that all members may not share the same definitions on issues surrounding personal morality, appropriate behavior, and other sensitive topics of discussion that often appear on the site; we encourage all to voice their own opinions while refraining from criticizing other participants for the perspective they hold. Each person that posts on the forum is to be treated with the utmost respect and civility regardless of how absurd or ridiculous the opinion expressed might seem to you from your perspective.

Making outrageous claims towards me and Outcast, as done by RP, is allowed by that - in this thread and others? Makes perfect sense to me.

And again, if you go to a doctor, you don't want to hear "an" opinion, you want to hear what is ailing you - you don't go to the doctor to get a professional opinion on the Atlanta Braves game, now do you?

Why should you even pay for a doctor if Uncle Hillbilly can give you an opinion what ails you. After all, if all opinions are equally true, so the diagnosis of a doctor is just as equally true, as the diagnosis of Uncle Hillbilly. And the idea that the diagnosis of Uncle Hillbilly might be dangerous, is of course absurd...

 

Again, I know some people have a problem understanding it, but if you are going to produce manure, you will be called on your manure. Not because you are the producer, but because your claims lack any solid foundation.

 

Personal attacks against other participants will not be tolerated under any circumstances. We define personal attacks as posted comments which are intended to provoke, demean, or ridicule another participant. It is inevitable that members will sometimes disagree in their responses to any given problem, and LoveShack.org encourages healthy debate comprised of constructive questions and criticisms, so long as they pertain to the post and thread at hand. Personal dislike of another member has no place in any post, on any thread.

Ehmm... again why is RP allowed to do what she does, and should Outcast and I not be allowed to do something that is similar, if that?

 

It is not hard to make idiotic claims. It is making it harder to help people if people keep posting idiotic, and unsubstantiated claims. Perhaps you should be given a clown's nose, so that all your problems disappear. Of course that opinion is just as valuable and truthful as all others . And of course it will protect you of being run over by a 80,000 lbs truck. And most importantly, it makes you like apple-pie.

 

The thing is, it is not hard to post idiotic nonsense. But just because this is an internet forum, does not absolve us from personal responsibility for what we post. We can't use posters as guinea pigs in our experiments with uninformed opinions, especially in the more serious matters of suicidal people, people who seem to be suffering from Personality Disorders.

It takes years of professional training to be able to handle such people - and not all approaches are of equal quality. Unless you hold the view that life has no value. You are free to hold that view, though.

 

We expect that all participants will respond to posts in their specific context, not to the person who has posted. While opinions may be formed of various members based on what they have posted in the past, any response to any particular submission should be grounded in what has been posted in that thread. Past disagreements should not be resurrected in new threads. It is important that criticism be directed at what is stated in a post ("I don't like your idea") rather than at the individual making the statement ("I don't like you").

What did I do? I did not respond because RP was posting. I responded to the nonsense that was posted. And RP did not have any problem to say, time and again, even after Califlorgian (in another thread) had rejected the option of abortion, that Califlorgian should take an abortion, implying that it could not be traumatic at all, that adoption was immoral, et cetera, thus derailing the whole thread(!), and not being helpful at all - and only when her trip outside of reality was over, she crawled back, and disguisedly attacked me and Outcast. We are talking about life decisions, not the numbers you are going to pick for the Powerball.

 

Again if you are going to produce manure, you will be called on it. If you are going to produce a lot of manure, you are going to be called on it.

Some people define themselves by their opinions. Some people seem to have a hard time to separate identity from their opinion(s), but that is not my fault.

[Outcast]

IMHO it's irresponsible and a copout to claim that everything posted is an 'opinion' and therefore sacrosanct. If an 'opinion' is presented as though it is fact, then it is no longer an 'opinion'.

[Art_Critic]

Okay.. I'm screaming Uncle here.. UNCLE.. I'm done..

 

: )

 

Shake ?

[Outcast]

No need to scream anything, AC. Just wanted ya to know where I'm coming from. I'm not a meanie and I don't exercise vendettas against posters but I do try to do battle in favor of facts when I fear someone might be misled and possibly caused grief as a result.

[d'Arthez]

Outcast, AC's comment was not aimed at you, but at me.

 

I know I can get a bit overboard, when people make claims that are way off base, and are very likely to be harmful to posters - and have the boldness the accuse people who try to minimize the damage of character assassination.

I hold the view that, when accused, everyone has the right to defend themselves, and their views.

 

I agree with Outcast though on the essentials of the whole matter.