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I have a milk joke where I ask ladies for milk, they always say they don't have and I point to their bosom with my eyes, and they always laugh.

 

That is disgusting.

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Just for sake of it-if anyone is interest to how almost it feels or what types of mood thinking about the nurse invokes look up the song "Got to be you by DR. Victor".

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I have a milk joke where I ask ladies for milk, they always say they don't have and I point to their bosom with my eyes.

 

I wouldn't try that in Texas.

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I realize the milk joke will not work everywhere on earth. Its got to do with culture etc. Bosom is somewhat sexual here but not something you would perhaps be put in jail. I myself do not go around all day everyday doing this joke with any and all women. You will know when, it somewhat also lightens mood.

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In the country I live, there are some cultures where traditionally women don't cover the bosom. So you could be walking around whole day with bosom everywhere, it is disrespectful to stare. You basically live your life like you do not see anything,it only becomes sexual in the room or in private.

 

 

You will find women that are just build with beauty that has no mercy and you ask but why, and mind you, they have not had a single bath their whole life. They apply animal fat mixed with red ochre clay daily, it keeps odour, insects everything away. I can assure you, no smell and the skin is smooth and clean. these people are not backward, they are extremely intelligent and live according to what they need only.

 

 

The milk joke will not work with elder women, or those with head dress that indicate they are married, but with the rest its open game.

 

 

Like I said one must consider cultural inclination and setting, everything.

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I think you should ask her out, otherwise stop with the obsession over someone you do not know. At the moment, you have an idealistic fantasy over who this woman is, until you know for sure, let it drop.

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I realize I am not in default mindset now. I don't think I must do taking out people and relationships now, if I could not manage properly meeting the lady. Maybe I must spend some time to sort my mind and stop talking about this even if I can't stop thinking about her.

 

 

I will see if I still think about her in two months, if not it was nice idea, if I still do, I will something drastic like find her and talk.

 

 

This whole thing was because of fear, usually looking at woman is because of sex thoughts and its very easy to approach, but here I don't need her sex or body dimensions or long to hear the fake moans to boost my ego. I was experiencing her beauty, she felt very present I could feel her, I saw her twice, the last time I touched her-we shook hands. I don't even know what I want, but I know in a while I will know.

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Let's say you do find her and talk with her. And let's imagine she's interested in you.

 

What do you expect she'll do when she finds out that you're married?

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I have filled for divorce in May. my assumption is that it will take while. I will tell her everything about myself to give her the opportunity to choose.

 

 

I filled for divorce the day after I was called in with Police Inspector based on blatant lies. I realized I am just tired, broken and broke, I don't have the power anymore to go on like this, its 2019. Usually some nasty nonsense would be raised, a whole episode ensues, I submit and everything cools down for a while-I did this because I did not want the kids to be traumatised every time.

 

 

The problem is that it does not matter who starts the fight, the kids are somehow always dragged in, because she knew it annoyed me. I realized what is the use to stay for the kids if they go through the stool every time anyway. I don't care who is wrong or right, I don't want that situation anymore, I don't blame wife anymore, I made choices also that my have seemed ok at the time but went wide. I share 50% of all the reasons for unhappy marriage and divorce.

 

 

I don't want drama in my life anymore in my life, if this nurse lady is married, in a stable relationship with kids, then she is off limits, its better to life solitary, if not hen it my be a good opportunity to see her.

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I came across the term "catharsis" in the first Dead Pool movie, this post gives me a good opportunity to use it.

 

 

This week Tuesday, I could not hold in all the thoughts and questions about the nurse madam. It was murdering me that such a supposed normal easy thing like meeting or talking to someone is so complicated and creepy. Ok if I cant go there at least I call, so I called at the hospital emergency and asked to talk to her. The man said she is on duty but busy, so took a quick shower and ate bread with p-nut butter.

 

 

I heard from an elder guy at work that one must always smell good and fresh and avoid to court people on a hungry stomach, your mind slip and you forget key things to do and say (I have for years been chatting up women easy but this was like a serious project). I went to hospital. Found her-greeted and gave her the cd as a way to ask friendship and give her my number-I explained that I know what I am doing is strange and maybe out of order, but that she let me know one day when she has time and I will explain or elaborate. She took it and said "ok good" and I went.

 

 

I reach the parking area and I hear "chief", it was her coming-I almost ran-did not expect anything from her-my job was done. She came gave me the cd and said that she cannot take cd and cannot be a friend. It was loud and also very quite, I asked if she don't keep male friends and she said she does. Ok I am not good to be friend also. Almost so painful, but I felt relieve, I trust she has good reasons for rejecting my friendship.

 

 

I went home cried, I felt defeat and small. I have been so indecisive, petty and confused about this from the start so I called my friend, he feels I must not stop now I must pursue, I don't know if I can pursue friendship that hard. He says its the right thing to do, I am not asking for friendship anymore I want something more. Provided she is not married, the onus is upon her to convince me otherwise not me to decide. If I stop now how will she know if I am serious or not. It sounds true, but these days there are too many human rights, it could be harassment.

 

 

Truthfully I now feel like I want to try again, but how?

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Truthfully I now feel like I want to try again, but how?

 

Since she has given the CD back to you and told you she doesn't want to be friends with you it's wrong to continue trying to get a glimpse of her or to pursue her in any way.

 

You must stay totally away from her and move on now. If you think of something else each time she comes to mind and don't go back to the hospital to see her in time you will begin to get over the thought of her.

 

I didn't realize you are still married. Even though you have filed for divorce while you are still married is not the time to be pursuing any woman.

 

However, were you single now it would still be wrong to continue trying to see her and/or trying to make contact with her in any way because she has made it clear she wants nothing to do with you.

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I trust she has good reasons for rejecting my friendship.

 

You've already shown her that you want more than friendship - a very good reason to reject your offer. Besides, she probably has enough friends already

 

Provided she is not married, the onus is upon her to convince me otherwise not me to decide

 

NO! The onus is on you to respect her wishes.

 

but these days there are too many human rights, it could be harassment.

 

Your words here translate to "my right to pursue should come above her right to feel safe". It's because of people who are doing what you are proposing that we've had to bring these laws in. A woman should be able to go to her place of work and know that a man she's rejected will not continue to follow her around.

 

From what you've written, it is clear that you do not respect her. She's soemone you want to possess with no regard to how she feels. Keep up this behaviour and you're going to find yourself beaten to a pulp by her brother or husband.

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When I say "too many human rights", I did not clarify. You know that when I was growing up, cellphone was not available so you in essence had to stalk these people to get a proper chance to talk and put your case, since you couldn't ask for numbers, very very few people had telephones or land lines at home, ok.

 

 

In the language and culture I am from, the direct translation for the word or concept of "courting women" translates to "forcing", meaning essentially to propose a relationship to a woman you practically had to stay in her face until she accepts your advances and gradually feels something or whatnot.

 

 

With the advent of the cellphone women have a wider scope or options to choose from, whereas girls then had to wait hope and pray that it is not the village ugly or other people reminiscent of joylessness are not the ones brave enough to approach.

 

 

In reference to the concern that I m void of any social core norms, I am bit versed. My obsession with the nurse character I think has more to do with the mind sometimes slipping due to weed/ love whatever-the serious truth is, I have stopped all efforts to invade her life, It is something I regret-heat of the moment. If I knew then what I know now..

 

 

I am humbled to tell you that I have found out what all this means, not just the nurse issue, but what it all means, it has to do with the same reasons why soldiers took the call in the second world war against the 3rd Reich, it was not because they hated the Third Reich/Germany but because they loved their own people-sacrificing their lives-It was about love. I will post what I mean with this when one day I can articulate it best to void confusion.

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Please with the reference to Third Reich, I use it as most plausible example, nothing to do with or against Germany now or people of that descent.

 

 

Could also be put as when the North Vietnamese fought invading forces along the centuries including the last invading force, it was not because they hated, Chinese, French and US, they loved the Vietnamese people and fought for their reunification. Anyhow-feels like the longer I stay on this post, it creates more confusion.

 

 

I am sorry, I put humor in almost anything in my life except my own pain and or being violated by the nurse's husband or brother, My apologies.

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I was advised by someone very knowledgeable that I was in a state of lack of self love for too long. I have perhaps been starved of love and remain in a loop as suggested here before. This is why I project false love and intentions towards people who have physical features that trigger this obsession, hence the lady.

 

 

I lived in unreciprocated love and it distorted ideas about love. The advise is that I start first to love myself by engaging people with love without expectations.

 

 

Thanks everyone-I would have expected that it ends with me kissing her, but boringly-I must love myself hard since there is nobody around to love-romantically I mean.

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You are TOTALLY over-analyzing this. You're interested in her. She is not interested in you. That's all. Leave her alone.

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I think he's saying he's done C_O. And that's clearly for the best.

 

Good luck OP. I hope you can find someone else who feels for you/loves you back. Clearly it wasn't this nurse woman. C'est la vie...

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Admit it. What you are doing right now is not working. You are not going to be able to reconnect with the world on your own.

 

I know you stated you did not want to talk to a psychiatrist but you are going to have to swallow your reluctance or you are not going to like where you are in life ten years from now.

 

I'm not a big fan of psychology. In my humble opinion it is a soft science because results of treatment are not repeatable and the success rate is not very high but it does a have pharmaceutical wing that does many times provide remarkable results.

 

You need to talk to a psychiatrist because they are the ones that are the gate keepers for drugs and find out if there is something you can take that will allow you to put both feet in reality.

 

Once that is taken care of, you can rebuild your life and re-establish healthy relationships. Without that help, I don't think you can expect much more than what is happening right now.

 

Please give it a try. There are many people that live very normal lives as long as they are taking their meds.

 

 

Best Wishes

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You can't force a woman to accept you. She is not interested. A woman knows immediately if she has any attraction to you. She does not and has made that clear and you are nothing but a creeper to her. I hope she calls the police on you next time you make contact, I really do, and maybe they will have you committed for psychiatric care.

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Ok this is getting too much-why does everyone make it seem like I feature in beauty and the beast as the beast. I simply had an out of control experience with someone, got infatuated, might it have felt dirty for you and totally lost my mind for a bit. If I had any seriously unbecoming or some untoward intentions-maybe I would choose a more darker site/platform to share my filth, but I sincerely thought other people on earth would maybe have experienced this.

 

 

I truthfully had no other way to find her, That is why I went to her workplace, It was never my intention to stalk. There is no harm done, if indeed there were problems I would have known by now- through Police or if I was granted a chance to apologize, since it would just be senseless to try and do that myself.

 

 

Yes my behaviour was wrong, but I feel love for her, she does not, I fully and well understand that, I wish her all the best and pray that God removes her thoughts/obsessions from my mind and burn them somewhere. I have not tried look to her up, I have no information about or on her, I do not go where she works or call.

 

 

In hindsight, I think she is a Shaman, since that day I notice that the way I feel about things and situations has changed. I care less about some issues and I hear instrumentation on music better-there are many things which for the sake of this post I cannot put, but for example I have been listening to a song by Yola Semedo-Es Tu (on youtube), since start of this year, I mainly listen to the drumming and guitars, but recently I clearly hear the piano/keyboard work on the song-this may seem trivial to you, but it feels like the butterfly effect-why because had I not gone to the hospital that day (the guy I went to see after his accident is family to my soon to be ex-she asked me to please go see him), I never would have seen this Shaman beautiful lady, this experience I think has not changed anything physical for me but the way I think especially about my troubles and worries has changed. I feel like there is something meaningful I must do, that is why I pray for revelation, maybe I must buy some cattle again-but whatever for now. This is one of the reasons apart from a bit of weed that I may sound not put together some times.

 

 

Although I resist and want to defend against some of the replies, I want to thank everyone because it truly influenced my perspective.

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So now you're convinced she's some superior being put in front of you to your benefit. You need to see a psychologist because this may only get worse and worse. And you probably need to lay off the weed if you feel that's contributing to your delusions.

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There is no harm done, if indeed there were problems I would have known by now

 

So...if you totally freaked her out, would you consider that no harm done?

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There is no harm done, if indeed there were problems I would have known by now- through Police

 

You actually have no idea if there was harm done as most women don't report creepers to the police. She may now be extra wary of leaving work on her own. This is the whole reason to not approach women in their workplace...."I know where you work" is nearly as bad as "I know where you live"

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Ok, how do I undo the ladies anxious situation, I cannot go and apologize, it would exacerbate the situation would it not. I am now sure this whole thing has totally been misunderstood, please read my post.

 

 

But if she should feel under threat, that is very very bad, I don't hate her, I also don't want to harm her. If you are male, just imagine the situation.

 

 

You go to store, see very attractive woman there, but because of the situation you cant go talk to her, you have no way of contacting her, what would you do-you go back there hoping to get a chance to talk, she is not there so you go back again and when you see her next you start some form of communication but you still don't have contacts and only place you can see her is at work. Is it still stalking if the person is not in the same space.

 

 

Anyhow for everything that seems wrong I apologize for her sake and for your worry that I have destroyed her life.

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It is my humble opinion that meeting this person has perhaps changed some aspects of my life, then she my be a Shaman with special gifts like intermediary with ancestors.

 

 

The fact that I actually communicated my wish to her in at least as personal as I could get, even with a proper introduction with my name, and that she refused it, and that after that I am not in her space assures me that she consciously knows what happened. She may look over her shoulder, if she is unsure, but she will not see me.

 

 

My intention was not to stalk her and maybe go masturbate after, but I went there to see if I can find her and also if I could get a chance to talk, I finally did manage to get her and communicate and it was not mutual-that's it. Even though I think of her now, I don't think my mind energy is strong enough to put her under some kind of bondage.

 

 

As I have now said several times I am not trying to invade her life now, I am aware now that every time I see someone that looks attractive, and I look at her twice and get infatuated, then I must see a psychologist.

 

 

I am sorry for the sarcasm I used that really led to this big mess. I am sure she is safe, maybe I must go make sure tomorrow-in case.

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