basil67 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Unless he is of the culture that eats animals they considered undomesticated then the guy is a nut job. What about hens? They are domesticated and make lovely little pets, yet humans in the west have a long history of eating them. It's only become rare these days because of the amount of poultry in the supermarket/butcher. Link to post Share on other sites
major_merrick Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I'll eat almost anything that can be served on rice or next to mashed potatoes. I've eaten dog - it tastes ok. I've eaten cat as well, along with rats, possums, raccoons, squirrels, rabbits, etc... I've had both dogs and cats for pets, and a possum that thought it was a pet. There is a difference between a creature that you don't know and a creature that you know, that has a personality, and that you have an emotional attachment to. My husband's cats are perfectly safe. I think consistency in eating stuff is a good philosophy. If it tastes good and I don't have some kind of an emotional bond with the creature, I'll eat it. I'll even kill it and prepare it, although that's not my favorite chore. And if the apocalypse happens and I find out that people are tasty.... I'm the very tippy-top of the top of the food chain, you can take that to the bank. Tigers, bears, trespassers, and gray aliens beware. BBQ sauce makes anything tasty. Link to post Share on other sites
Springsummer Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 It's really refreshing to see some of the posts here. People I encountered in real life judging Asians harshly because they eat dog and somehow it makes them more superior than Asians as human. One time I debated someone by saying what's the difference between dogs and other animals he eats. He said a dog is a pet, other animal aren't. but pet is a human concept. you can make any animal a pet. and I am delighted to see someone here actually noticed there are different kind of dogs. That being said, I don't remember I have eaten dog meat. and I don't plan on trying. I have a cat and I love him dearly. and I love dogs too. so can't imagine eating them. I eat other meat only because I don't have to kill them or see them kill. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I'm the very tippy-top of the top of the food chain, you can take that to the bank. Tigers, bears, trespassers, and gray aliens beware. BBQ sauce makes anything tasty. Go wrestle that tiger or bear then and see how top of that chain you really are. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Go wrestle that tiger or bear then and see how top of that chain you really are. Based on MM’s previous posts, I’d say it’s more likely she’d be coming from the armory than the wrestling mat... Mr. Lucky Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Based on MM’s previous posts, I’d say it’s more likely she’d be coming from the armory than the wrestling mat... Then it’s pretty arrogant of her to claim she’s at the top of the food chain if she isn’t naturally so. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kitty Tantrum Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Human ingenuity has placed us there pretty squarely. Tools and weapons aren't off limits to anybody with opposable thumbs! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Yep, take by force. Because that’s not arrogant at all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kitty Tantrum Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Well perhaps, but it's certainly not the arrogance of false presumption, which was your original goalpost. We ARE at the top of the food chain, by force. As is every animal in relation to its food supply. I don't understand why you're trying to make this a value judgment. It's not ARROGANT to assert that you as a human will not starve while there are tasty (or at least palatable) animals in the vicinity just because you're not willing to give the beast the honor of strictly manual combat. I mean, come on. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Normm Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 We ARE at the top of the food chain, by force. Really? I'm going to tell that to the next shark that comes nibbling at my legs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 You know, kitty, if I didn’t know better I’d say you’ve been eating too much pig. LOL It’s all good. I just don’t see how anybody can brag about being at the top of the food chain when it’s a well known fact that both bears and tigers will eat man one on one. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I'm going to tell that to the next shark that comes nibbling at my legs. Right? It’s silly really. Best to stick with chickens, cows and pigs and apparently now dogs too. “but we’re the top dog” 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Veronica73 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) I’d have to agree, that in general, humans are at the top of the food chain. (Although, this direction in conversation seems like a major tangent.) Having weapons is part of being human. Because we have our brains and opposable thumbs. Bears are more in danger of humans in general, than humans are in danger of bears. Do bears and lions and tigers keep us in zoos? No. Because we dominate them for the most part. I wouldn’t be surprised if we could be taken out by a bacteria or virus though. (Edit) You can eat shark in restaurants. While reports of humans being eaten by sharks aren’t terribly common. If it was, no one would ever surf or swim in the ocean. Humans are “natural” too. Edited August 1, 2019 by Veronica73 Link to post Share on other sites
Poutrew Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) And if the apocalypse happens and I find out that people are tasty.... I'm the very tippy-top of the top of the food chain, you can take that to the bank. Tigers, bears, trespassers, and gray aliens beware. BBQ sauce makes anything tasty. Well, not that I have any personal experience mind you, but cannibal tribes used to call the people they ate 'long pork'... so that would make humans taste like … BACON! Kinda puts a whole new meaning to the term 'pork butt'...it also puts another spin on why some religions label pig an 'unclean' animal and forbid their practitioners from eating it. Edited August 2, 2019 by Poutrew Link to post Share on other sites
Springsummer Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just because you could doesn't mean you should. Link to post Share on other sites
mrs rubble Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 My husband just the other day said he would try dog too, if he ever got the opportunity....aggh!! I couldn't and wouldn't. I'm not going to judge him on this as I eat things he hates (oysters, mushrooms, beans, asparagus etc.) so it'd be a bit hypocritical. On a side note, one of my workmates who is from another country told me that their family dog got hit by a car and killed so her father cooked it. Link to post Share on other sites
The Outlaw Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 No. Just no. Link to post Share on other sites
PegNosePete Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I just don’t see how anybody can brag about being at the top of the food chain when it’s a well known fact that both bears and tigers will eat man one on one. Put a shark on dry land and see if it's top of the food chain. Put a polar bear in the desert and see how long it lasts. A lion on a small island is no longer king of the jungle. "If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid"... In other words, fighting unarmed 1 on 1 plays right into the bear's strengths and away from the human's. Our tool use, big brains, and teamwork are what put us at the top of the food chain despite our relatively feeble bodies, and keep us there today. Removing those evolutionary advantages and pitting a man unarmed 1 on 1 against a bear, is the equivalent of putting a shark out of water. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 FWIW, in the majority of countries where "exotic" meats like dog are eaten on a regular basis, it's not really an "exotic" or "adventurous" thing for the majority of the people there. These are countries where a good % of the population is STARVING (i.e. Vietnam, Nigeria). Now, those of you who are judging them can judge all you like from the comfort of your nice house in a developed country with potable water coming out of your taps and your fridge full of food, and never having gone to bed hungry before. But if YOU or your children were starving and there were animals around? I'd like to see you sit on your high horse and let your child die just because you "don't eat dog". Obviously this isn't the case with the OP's bf, but there's a lot of blanket generalization going on about other people, and it sounds to me like all of that comes from people who have never seen true hardship. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) In other words, fighting unarmed 1 on 1 plays right into the bear's strengths and away from the human's. Our tool use, big brains, and teamwork are what put us at the top of the food chain despite our relatively feeble bodies, and keep us there today. Removing those evolutionary advantages and pitting a man unarmed 1 on 1 against a bear, is the equivalent of putting a shark out of water. I don't think that's what she meant... But anyway. yes, because without the capability of tools, which aren't always accessible at a critical moment, each year thousands of people are killed and many are eaten by a variety of animals... Even an anteater can, and has killed humans...Yes, even ones with big brains... I get the argument those are making in defense of eating dogs....I dunno...I guess my feeling is that dogs are quite different than most other animals in how they interact with humans...People, including myself, have kept a variety of animals and dogs are just "different" ...For one, I don't know of many or any other animals that would aggressively defend its owner, even to the point of self sacrifice, like dogs do...That, among other aspects, are why people tend to have a special reverence for dogs... TFY Edited August 2, 2019 by thefooloftheyear 1 Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Even an anteater can, and has killed humans...Yes, even ones with big brains... I’m glad at least one of us understood that analogy. I never knew humans came out of the womb locked and loaded as a natural state like a shark in water would be. Link to post Share on other sites
PegNosePete Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I never knew humans came out of the womb locked and loaded as a natural state like a shark in water would be. Humans come out of the womb with a support network of other humans and their tools to protect them. That's the environment we are born into, and the environment in which we are top of the food chain - just like a shark in water Take us out of our environment, take away our advantages, and we will get eaten by plenty of things. Same applies to any other top predator. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 But we aren’t on top of the food chain Pete. We’re on par with anchovies and pigs. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Take us out of our environment, take away our advantages, and we will get eaten by plenty of things. Same applies to any other top predator. Animals like saltwater crocs, killer whales and Siberian Tigers have no predators...Cant say the same for us humans.... TFY 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mark clemson Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) Animals like saltwater crocs, killer whales and Siberian Tigers have no predators...Cant say the same for us humans.... TFY Respectfully, TFY, if you put a killer whale in a forest, it will quickly get eaten by wolves. If you put a tiger in the middle of the ocean, it will quickly get eaten by sharks. If you take a human outside of their social group, e.g. alone in the jungle instead of in a town surrounded by protective other humans, the human too quickly gets eaten. Our social structure is the environment that makes us an apex predator. (And without it we're easy pickings.) Believe that was the point being made. Edited August 3, 2019 by mark clemson Link to post Share on other sites
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