Mr. Lucky Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 You're asking untrained strangers on the Internet to diagnose the symptoms and cause for someone they've never seen or met, not a recipe for success. These are all better in-person questions for a medical professional... Mr. Lucky 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 I need to get back into exercising, cause I feel out of shape, since I've had a knee injury I was recovering from. However, I've been avoiding doing it cause with a newer job now, the only free time I have to go to the gym is in the evenings, and I can't sleep after, cause I get too adrenaline pumped. Is there anything I can do to get the adrenaline to go down after? Link to post Share on other sites
Mrin Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Try meditation. Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 In working out, you are always supposed to do stretching before and after. Before to warm up muscles first before the workout and after to relax the muscles and yourself. So don't skip those steps. I think most people feel relaxed after a complete workout followed by wind-down stretching. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I have been training for decades, mostly in the evening...I usually go around 7-7:30 and finish about an hour later....Even with a very strong dose of pre workout supplement(big dose of caffeine), the feeling of exhaustion wins out over the rush, about an hour after my last set, so by 9:30/10 I am ready to sleep even though I usually stay up about an hour later than that... Not sure why it would be keeping you from sleeping, unless trying to sleep right after...You may have something else causing insomnia, I dunno… TFY Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Yeah it's just that I feel my brain is deteriorating, and wondered if the doctor missed something since he says counseling is the only answer. Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 If you're having memory issues, I honestly feel like the doctor you need to see the most is a neurologist. Get brain scans, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Okay thanks, but I need a referral from my general practitioner, right? He says I need a counselor and gave me a referral to that instead. But is there a way to get in to see a neurologist some other way? Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I guess it depends on what healthcare plan you have. If you have insurance, call the insurance and ask them or call the referring doctor and tell them you're worried about memory and ask if you should see a neurologist. I can see it being expensive, so you'd need insurance. You may well need a counselor too, but the memory problems sound like something physical to me. I could certainly be wrong, though, if you were under high stress or something like that and overwhelmed. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 I have insurance for the neurologist I think, but I have to referred by the doctor in order for the insurance to work I think. I do not have insurance for the counseling. The doc says it's because of stress, and it's psychological, based on what I told him, that I feel it's because of stress going on in my personal life for the past few months, that has also been causing me insomnia as well. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 i'm so glad you went to see the Doctor ironpony, do what he/she says Link to post Share on other sites
LivingWaterPlease Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 ironpony, if you're having sleeping problems then it's not surprising you're also having memory problems. Not that sleep deprivation is the only thing than can cause memory problems but it definitely can. It can also increase your stress, vicious cycle! I notice you're already taking melatonin but there are some other things you can take that will help you and will also be non addictive. One such thing is herbs. You can take valerian root powder (this is the stuff that valium is made from) which is non addictive. And you can also take passion fruit powder. Both of these herbs will relax you to where you can fall asleep. Neither are addictive or will have side effects. Just don't take them during the daytime if you need to drive or to stay awake! Another thing that it sounds as if would help you very much is to take vitamin b12 and vitamin b6. I take a methylated form of them (Methylation Pro), combined with folate, D3 and K, that I buy online. When you're under a lot of stress your body uses extra vitamin Bs so you need to be sure you're replacing them as they help you deal with stress and your body doesn't store Vit B. So you need to be sure you're getting plenty now. It'll make a difference for you. About 40% of people aren't able to utilize Vit B they get through food or orally so it would be great for you to get the methylated B as you apply that topically. Also, if you drink coffee you need to supplement with Vitamin B because your body uses it up faster when you're drinking coffee. Also, supplementing with magnesium will probably help you to sleep. Research the benefits of it. Most people are magnesium deficient. Use caution when taking any form of medication (pharmaceutical or OTCs) for sleep. There are many reasons to do so which you can find on the internet if you do a little research. I notice you can't take benadryl which is great because studies are now showing it (along with some other mood altering drugs and OTCs plus many allergy meds which are OTC and pharmaceuticals) can contribute to early dementia. This was in the news very recently. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Oh okay thanks for the advice I will try those. Thanks. I didn't know that melatonin was addictive. I don't drink coffee cause I wanted to stay away from stimulants, but some say if I would drink coffee and maybe more sugar in the diet, perhaps my brain will wake up more and my memory will therefore, if that's true? Everything I have tried for insomnia though has only worked for about 5-6 hours of the night though. It wears off after that much time, and trying to find something that could work for the full 8 hours of sleep on average. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Melatonin isn't addictive but it isn't particularly useful unless you're wanting to switch your sleep cycle timing. I notice you can't take benadryl which is great because studies are now showing it (along with some other mood altering drugs and OTCs plus many allergy meds which are OTC and pharmaceuticals) can contribute to early dementia. This was in the news very recently. Care to cite the studies? I'd be very surprised if this was true, since antihistamines have a completely different mechanism of action from "mood altering drugs" (by which I assume you mean the benzodiazepines). It would be one hell of a fluke shot for BOTH to be able to cause early dementia - that's like finding out that apples and horse riding give you appendicitis. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 Well the doctor recommended counseling so I guess a counselor is best. Any advice on how to pick a counselor? I was referred to a clinic but not a specific one. Or I guess I could pick ones who will be the quickest available? I've also been putting it off cause I don't like talking about my personal problems though. Is there any other way I can get help this issue without doing that? My gf says maybe I should be on ant-anxiety medication, but would that be the right course for this problem, do you think? Link to post Share on other sites
S2B Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 okay but what can i do abou the memory and insomnia problems until the therapy gets going? Are you currently taking ANY medications or drugs? Or recently stopped taking any pills that were altering your mind? Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) No, aside from some herbal remedies from the health store that people recommended, I am not any medications. So far the thing that worked the most to put me to sleep is alcohol which I have finally caved on and have done every night that for the last week to go to sleep. I think the reason why alcohol works the best is because it numbs the emotions where as these other things, such as melatonin, tryptophan, passion fruit powder, etc, do not actually numb the emotions. Is there anything herbal that is non-alcoholic that can numb emotions really well, that I could try? Another thing is, is that even if I do fall asleep, I keep waking up from nightmares. Where as with alcohol you don't have any many nightmares in comparison to other remedies. Is there any remedies other than alcohol that can reduce nightmares as well? Edited November 5, 2019 by ironpony Link to post Share on other sites
S2B Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 You need a counselor to deal with those emotions you wish to avoid by getting numb. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
clia Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 What is your sleep schedule? What time do you get up in the morning and what time do you (try to) go to sleep? Do you exercise? I find that on days when I get up early and do an intense workout, I fall asleep quite easily in the evening. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 I go to bed at 10:30 and my alarm is usually set for 6:30, but often cannot sleep, and when I can, it's almost never for the whole night. I was exercising before, but I found that exercising actually got my blood pumping more and it made me more awake. But I find it difficult to do in the morning cause I live with people and do not want to wake them up, exercise machine wise. Or I could forget using the exercise bike and just do push ups and crunches if that's best? Link to post Share on other sites
jah526 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Ironpony, I get your frustration. I have had terrible insomnia for around 25 years now. This past week was particularly bad. I’ve been ranging between 2-4 hours a night, with medication, and then driving to and from work, an hour each way. I almost ran over some people in a crosswalk one day. I don’t know what to do either. One counselor suggested I take a month of FMLA and get myself adjusted to antidepressants. Might be a good idea. I feel like my brain is broken. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 I've had to do some highway trips lately, driving for quite a few hours of a day with my friend. However, since I have insomnia, I figure I might as well just keep driving at night and my friend can just sleep in the car, since he is able to do that so well. But he keeps insisting we drive during the day cause it's better, even if it means staying up all night, not being able to sleep for me. I figure I might as well put that time to good use if I can't sleep. But I asked my gf's opinion at home, and she says the same thing, it's better to stay up all the nights in hotels, rather than drive at night, with less visibility, even if it means driving more tired later, cause I have to wait. What do you think? Is daytime driving still better? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Libby1 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I suppose a lot depends on where you live, how good the roads are and whether there's a risk of being a crime victim or running into a drunk driver if you're driving on quiet roads. If I have a long journey to make and it's mainly motorways, then I much prefer to drive at night due to the roads being quiet and getting to my destination a lot quicker. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 driving during the day is always better than driving at night Link to post Share on other sites
The Outlaw Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I've always preferred to drive during the day instead of at night. Should you absolutely have to drive at night, do so when you must but no more. Link to post Share on other sites
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