samsungxoxo Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Don't mean to sound ignorant but there are times I've wondered what it was like to be them. The types of psychopaths that impressed me for the longest are the high functioning, non-criminal types such as CEO's, surgeons, salesperson, lawyers, etc. Those are very unique and interesting people. So yeah I wonder what's it like being a non-criminal psychopath. At times I find myself wishing I was one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Redhead14 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 high functioning, non-criminal types such as CEO's, surgeons, salesperson, lawyers, etc. Those are very unique and interesting people. So yeah I wonder what's it like being a non-criminal psychopath. At times I find myself wishing I was one. These types of people are sometimes sociopaths. That's different than a psychopath. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Me Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 You can't miss what you don't know..... Link to post Share on other sites
chillii Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Of course you can , anything can happen. But op , dunno , give it a try :bunny: you might've missed your true call. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Don't mean to sound ignorant but there are times I've wondered what it was like to be them. The types of psychopaths that impressed me for the longest are the high functioning, non-criminal types such as CEO's, surgeons, salesperson, lawyers, etc. Well, having managed a home appliance and electronics store at one point in my life, I'm trying to understand why you think salespeople (and these other professions) are psychopaths? I just wanted to sell you a new TV, my motives didn't really run much deeper than that... Mr. Lucky 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author samsungxoxo Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Well, having managed a home appliance and electronics store at one point in my life, I'm trying to understand why you think salespeople (and these other professions) are psychopaths? I just wanted to sell you a new TV, my motives didn't really run much deeper than that... Mr. LuckyNot all of them though. Most are normal non-path people like the rest of us. I'm referring to where psychopaths that don't commit crimes can be found out and some of the professions they get into. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_in_the_workplace From wikipedia: successful psychopaths – corporate climbers involved in irregular crime who tend to have had more privileged background, high IQ, and little risk of legal penalties. unsuccessful psychopaths – involved in regular crime who tend to have had less privileged backgrounds, low IQ, and much higher risk of legal penalties. According to Dutton, the ten careers that have the highest proportion of psychopaths are:[17] CEO Lawyer Media (TV/radio) Salesperson Surgeon Journalist Police officer Clergy Chef Civil servant Edited October 15, 2019 by samsungxoxo Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Why do you want mental illness? You don’t even get good drugs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 According to Dutton, the ten careers that have the highest proportion of psychopaths I think your phrasing is still misleading. If 1% of people in those careers are true psychopaths vs .1% in the general population, is that statistically significant? Is your interest in being a psychopath or in being successful in a career? There's not much overlap... Mr. Lucky Link to post Share on other sites
Author samsungxoxo Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Why do you want mental illness? You don’t even get good drugs.What I find most impressing about them is that due to their condition, they won't ever have to undergo heartbreaks, guilt, emotional distress if there is a loss in the family, etc. They have it so easy in life and can be successful if they are law abiding citizens. Isn't it impressing knowing how to con people and having no remorse at all? Their level of shallowness and lack of empathy is too far that it exceeds my threshold. This is what I would imagine saying to a confirmed psychopath if I knew one: ''Wow you're such a rare breed. You're so unique. You must be having a wonderful, happy life''. Link to post Share on other sites
Author samsungxoxo Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 I think your phrasing is still misleading. If 1% of people in those careers are true psychopaths vs .1% in the general population, is that statistically significant? Is your interest in being a psychopath or in being successful in a career? There's not much overlap... Mr. LuckyI would like to be a successful business owner one day but don't see it happening soon. I already have a BA in tourism and hospitality but not working in my field yet. I'm just impressed with those rare breeds though. I give them kudos for stepping on everyone's toes, not caring about hurting people's feeling and going on with life as if nothing happened. Wow Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Isn't it impressing knowing how to con people and having no remorse at all? Their level of shallowness and lack of empathy is too far that it exceeds my threshold. This is what I would imagine saying to a confirmed psychopath if I knew one: ''Wow you're such a rare breed. You're so unique. You must be having a wonderful, happy life''. Yea that’s a bunch of crap. My exH has no empathy, I’d call him a narcissist and not a psychopath but he very well may be. He’s hurt animals for fun. But anyway, when he use to cum almost as soon as he got on top of me he use to say, “I ***ken hate myself.” So I guess being that way isn’t as great as it seems because who says that? Only someone that’s so unhappy with themselves would ever say that. It must be a constant internal struggle. He’s easily bored too. He has to keep accumulating things I guess just so that he feels alive. He can never just be. He can never have a quiet mind and the peace that comes with it. It’s pretty sad actually and you know what? I’m happy he’s sad. Does that make me sadistic? Idgaf. Link to post Share on other sites
major_merrick Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 One of the prime components of psychopathy is a lack of empathy. Basically, if you are a psychopath, you don't really get attached to other people for their own sake. You don't value people or feel love, except for whatever ego stroking they might give you. You don't develop deep, meaningful relationships. A non-criminal psychopath won't go down the path of violence, but WILL use people. This can lead to success in business, law, or other fields because they are willing to dispose of people who are not useful to them, and pander to people who are. A non-criminal psychopath will be perfectly fine with causing social and emotional suffering to others, sometimes for gain or sometimes just for fun. Psychopaths are often bold and uninhibited. When combined with poor judgement, that leads to failure and crime. But when combined with shrewdness and skill? Definitely leads to success, and that boldness is valued in society, in government, and in various professions. So if you were a psychopath, how would it feel? If you were successful and non-criminal, it would probably feel pretty damn good!!! You wouldn't be bothered with pesky stuff like love or breakups or choosing work vs. family. Your world is about YOU, and you get to practically be your own god. Of course, at the end of your life when you end up alone and facing the afterlife with a bunch of past sins, probably no saving faith, and no good deeds...then you would experience extreme pain and loss. Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) What I find most impressing about them is that due to their condition, they won't ever have to undergo heartbreaks, guilt, emotional distress if there is a loss in the family, etc. They have it so easy in life and can be successful if they are law abiding citizens. Isn't it impressing knowing how to con people and having no remorse at all? Their level of shallowness and lack of empathy is too far that it exceeds my threshold. This is what I would imagine saying to a confirmed psychopath if I knew one: ''Wow you're such a rare breed. You're so unique. You must be having a wonderful, happy life''. My sister's ex is a sociopath and he's miserable. He doesn't experience heartbreak, but he certainly experiences anger and distress when things don't go his way or he can't control a situation. I saw a judge award against him in court and he collapsed outside the court afterwards. He can work but chooses to live on unemployment benefits so that he didn't have to pay support to his children. He firebombed my parents house while they were inside because they supported my sister in the divorce. He's have to be seriously upset to do such a thing. So yeah, he's certainly unique. But he's also jobless, friendless, an alleged attempted murderer and his kids hate him. Naturally there's no remorse for any of his actions. I can't understand why you'd look up to someone like this. Edited October 16, 2019 by basil67 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SumGuy Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 What I find most impressing about them is that due to their condition, they won't ever have to undergo heartbreaks, guilt, emotional distress if there is a loss in the family, etc. ... In this day and age it’s just amazing you have zero information on this. There are plenty of books you can read to elucidate yourself. Yes sociopaths don’t suffer guilt from hurting others feelings, they also don’t feel joy or much of anything as non-sociopaths experience life. They get off on control and that’s about it, and even the apparently law abiding ones have impulse control issues when it comes to needing to mess with someone. None abide by the law, they do whatever they think they can get away with, and breaking the law and not getting caught is a rush of control. It’s not just the absence of guilt but most all emotions. But go on and glorify it if you like, I’m sure one would love to take you under their wing to use you and one day ruin you, just because they can. I hear though North Korea is looking for gulag guards, maybe you could apply, get some real life training. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I would like to be a successful business owner one day but don't see it happening soon. I give them kudos for stepping on everyone's toes, not caring about hurting people's feeling and going on with life as if nothing happened. Anyone who thinks there's a link between being a psychopath and a successful business owner has never been a successful business owner... Mr. Lucky 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author samsungxoxo Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 Anyone who thinks there's a link between being a psychopath and a successful business owner has never been a successful business owner... Mr. LuckyI didn't said there was a link between them. Those were two separate statements I made. This thread was initially about those psychopaths within the 1% of the population. I'm aware many normal, non-paths people work in their field or are business owners. Social skill is the area I'm lacking to be a successful business owner. Link to post Share on other sites
Author samsungxoxo Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 In this day and age it’s just amazing you have zero information on this. There are plenty of books you can read to elucidate yourself.I've read enough over the years. Reading and educating yourself about it is different than actually getting into inside their minds yourself and processing everything the way they do along with their emotional deficits and inability to bond. In other words, trades places with them for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Psychoanalysts have been studying them long enough to have a general idea on how they tick. They aren’t very complicated beings. Most of them share similar traits on a different scale but to be termed a psychopath in the first place means that they exhibit enough criteria to be characterized as one. They aren’t unique, they’re very basic to the point of being put into a box. Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaPeach1 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Imagine scanning every situation and every person you encounter to see what benefits you can get. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Social skill is the area I'm lacking to be a successful business owner. Then your thoughts should turn more to developing your empathetic side rather than wondering about psychopaths. Success in business is no different than success in life, largely based on understanding the feelings of others and developing some commonality... Mr. Lucky Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I would like to be a successful business owner one day but don't see it happening soon. I already have a BA in tourism and hospitality but not working in my field yet. I'm just impressed with those rare breeds though. I give them kudos for stepping on everyone's toes, not caring about hurting people's feeling and going on with life as if nothing happened. Wow Some of it is nature (genetics) and some nurture (socialization) later honed by pursuing specific education to fully develop the traits. If you're not naturally that way it's something you can just think. It has to be part of you at an elemental psychological level. The key in most of this stuff is numbers. Billions. There's billions of us and in the big scheme of things our lives really don't matter. Sure, they matter to us. People who know how to tap into the billions and use them to concentrate wealth and power and retain it reap the rewards. We're not important to them other than as batteries to power their world. We saw a graphic example in a movie first shown 20 years ago this year, Matrix. The gift they have is the ability to pull the wool over our eyes to make us think we matter. What is real anyway? I see this all the time with wealthy friends when they go into manipulator mode and run into the brick wall of my hostility. Matrix doesn't work on me, pal. Try it with someone else. Billions of others to sell. 'Touched a nerve?' 'No, just calling you out on your bullshyte'. That's reality. Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 What I find most impressing about them is that due to their condition, they won't ever have to undergo heartbreaks, guilt, emotional distress if there is a loss in the family, etc. They have it so easy in life and can be successful if they are law abiding citizens. Isn't it impressing knowing how to con people and having no remorse at all? Their level of shallowness and lack of empathy is too far that it exceeds my threshold. This is what I would imagine saying to a confirmed psychopath if I knew one: ''Wow you're such a rare breed. You're so unique. You must be having a wonderful, happy life''. Untrue. They get VERY upset when they don't get their way. It isn't heartbreak. It's blind rage at not getting their way. They can feel very sorry but only for themselves. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pepperbird Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I really do believe that so much of what society thinks of psychopathy comes form what we see in mess media. It may not be all that accurate. There is a school of thought that some psychopaths are actually able to engage a limited form of empathy and even love with a very small group, usually a spouse and family. Whether that's real "love" or just possessiveness, I don't know. you might enjoy this documentary. it looks at "corporate psychopaths" and how they operate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author samsungxoxo Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 you might enjoy this documentary. it looks at "corporate psychopaths" and how they operate. It says the video is not available. Will read more about them though. Link to post Share on other sites
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