Tommorow is the day I find out the truth...

[Mysterio]

The way that life is going at the moment. I am starting to think it may not really be our fault that some of us are single. When I objectivly look at the women around me. I don't feel like they are soft and loving/giving. Very few are.

 

For a man. I think its better if the women comes to you. I rarely see or hear of men really making the effort with the woman and she is gaga for the guy, because of it. I can't imagine me making the first moves and she is so over the moon with me.

 

All my action that I want in a romantic way with a woman has come when they were making the moves on me. I don't know why that is.

[SumGuy]

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For a man. I think its better if the women comes to you. I rarely see or hear of men really making the effort with the woman and she is gaga for the guy, because of it. I can't imagine me making the first moves and she is so over the moon with me.

 

All my action that I want in a romantic way with a woman has come when they were making the moves on me. I don't know why that is.

 

I'm curious about this and think it would make a good thread. Especially what you mean by making the moves on you and making the first move and she is over the moon with you. I could comment in OLD how subsequent meeting and relationships have went when the woman first reached out to me versus me reaching out first to them. Also with regards to that first kiss, etc.

[Envy123]

I wonder if times have changed and more women tend to make the first move in general, or it's just a certain subset of women who prefer neutrality over even the slightest interest?

[NuevoYorko]

To be 100% honest, I will probably get beaten on for saying this, if you become successful and have money, dating becomes easier and won't be a problem. Now, you may not meet the type of woman to have anything serious with but you will have plenty of dates and fun.

 

I will step down and wait for my beating... lol

 

You don't get a beating from me. OTOH, what's wrong with it? A person has to have something we really like in order for someone else to be interested in them. For some people, that thing is success and money. For other people, it's a good body and pretty face, and for others, they need to be intellectually interested. Whatever. There's nothing wrong with any of it.

 

For the socially awkward among us, this is all more difficult. We all have our hurdles.

[NuevoYorko]

For a man. I think its better if the women comes to you. I rarely see or hear of men really making the effort with the woman and she is gaga for the guy, because of it. I can't imagine me making the first moves and she is so over the moon with me.

 

All my action that I want in a romantic way with a woman has come when they were making the moves on me. I don't know why that is.

 

If you prefer the more passive role in dating, nothing wrong with it. From this post though, I get the impression that you are insecure about getting rejected. That's not a good reason to sit around waiting for a woman to come on to you.

 

I have not been in any relationship with a woman who made the first move - at least, not overtly. Nothing against it but it either hasn't worked out that way, or else my personality drives me to try for her attention if I'm interested so there's no chance for her to move first. I don't know but making first moves, for me, has lead to relationships and also to my share of rejection.

[Cersei]

Guitarguy: Did you get any answers from your reaching out yet?

[Envy123]

If you prefer the more passive role in dating, nothing wrong with it. From this post though, I get the impression that you are insecure about getting rejected. That's not a good reason to sit around waiting for a woman to come on to you.

 

I have not been in any relationship with a woman who made the first move - at least, not overtly. Nothing against it but it either hasn't worked out that way, or else my personality drives me to try for her attention if I'm interested so there's no chance for her to move first. I don't know but making first moves, for me, has lead to relationships and also to my share of rejection.

 

I went between actively looking and passively looking.

 

And from my experience, I don't know what things I do wrong but doing the approach never gets anything off the ground. And I ended up alienating some women, despite me only pursuing once and leaving them alone after that.

 

So, I am rather risk averse. I'm not afraid of rejection but I am afraid of another woman not wanting to talk to me anymore because I've shown the cards too early.

 

But passive looking gives me the most success with women either showing interest first or sometimes even making the first move.

[Robert]

We'll close this up till the thread starter comes back, if they would like the thread opened then alert on my post and we will do so, thanks all who gave the thread starter great advice.