It surely is better to be a man

[Woggle]

Men who marry women young enough to be their daughters are not thinking too clearly. At least Leonardo Dicaprio is smart in the sense that he has his fun with them and then moves on.

[chillii]

Chillii, where were these dudes each time I had to change a tire?!

 

 

haaaaa, dunno bas. for you l'll stop next time

[basil67]

haha, thanks. As a teenager I once had a boyfriend stand and watch me change a tire. He told me later that he felt redundant.

[Els]

l always chuckle when l see a chick broken down somewhere . l just drive straight past them, ok l'm a mthrfckerm , well we know that already

l've even had em stare at me as l go past like wtf , your not even gonna stop, l always chuckle to myself and think nope, sorry lady. But don't you worry, just give it 5 min's and there'll be 10 suckers lining up to do anything for you.

 

 

Do you also let the door slam in the face of the person behind you who's carrying a bunch of stuff in their hands, and then "chuckle" at them?

 

I think it's a hallmark of a decent person to try and help their fellow humans, regardless of gender. I've helped men and felt good about it. If you go through life letting other people get screwed over just to fulfill some petty vengeful agenda of yours, don't be surprised when people do the same to you.

[chillii]

Do you also let the door slam in the face of the person behind you who's carrying a bunch of stuff in their hands, and then "chuckle" at them?

 

I think it's a hallmark of a decent person to try and help their fellow humans, regardless of gender. I've helped men and felt good about it. If you go through life letting other people get screwed over just to fulfill some petty vengeful agenda of yours, don't be surprised when people do the same to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Elswyth, of course l do . Sheeez.

And who said l was a decent person ,,,

 

sorry, couldn't resist.

 

 

Noooo, l'll help out in most situations, no problemo.

But the analyses at the bottom there ahhh, ok. Whatever you say.

[elaine567]

I have always tried to help people in trouble so the concept of "chuckling" over the thought of leaving someone alone with a flat tyre or broken down without offering some sort of help is alien to me.

 

Not far from where I live a young woman's car broke down in the middle of nowhere and the guy who stopped and offered to help murdered her, so well done chilli, one day that "chick" needing help may be your daughter...

[chillii]

Oh jezuz. if you read things properly , so l won't bother pointing it out.

[Woggle]

I fully agree. If men just gained some self respect the dating world would be much different. The only women who should get that kind of effort are women you married to or in a long relationship with.

Edited December 3, 2019 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[Prudence V]

Coming nack past 5mins later , sure as day , here's 3 separate suckers all over that damn car and wiping her pretty little brow for her .

 

I’ve always driven older cars, and had my share of breakdowns. But I also know better than most guys who stop how to fix the kind of thing that you can fix by the roadside, and I’m very aware of how many guys stop to “help” and use the opportunity to attack, so any dude who stops to help gets sent packing. Nicely, but still no thanks. If I can’t fix it, my breakdown support people can give me a tow.

 

But the sexism of the average guy who stops is mind blowing. They assume that their Y chromosome means that they know my car better than I do, and that my lack of a Y chromosome means I don’t know a spanner from a screwdriver. Even when I tell them I’ve diagnosed the problem, and am sorting it, they still want to stick their heads under the bonnet to provide a second (“guy’s”, so worth more ) opinion. Sorry dude, I’ve got a car to fix, I don’t have time to nurse your fragile ego too.

[hotpotato]

On 11/30/2019 at 6:32 AM, Mr. Lucky said:

 

Just as women seem to love good-looking, well-off men?

 

 

 

Mr. Lucky

And what's your point?I have dated men in a wide variety of looks and money. 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

The biggest point of contention between men and women is the reproduction aspect. Men can reproduce naturally at very old ages: An Indian man once impregnated a woman when he was 94 years old... For most women, past 40, you are taking on some very serious risks when having a child. Plain and simple, people without the ability to reproduce are either more or less attractive, depending on the eyes of the beholder, but there is always a difference.

 

So I mean, sure, old men can date young women, but can old women date young men? Yes, but women are more aware of what that actually is... Like, I love how so many people think marriage and prostitution are such different concepts... Conceptually, the two are not very far apart. In most relationships, finance is the BIGGEST factor by far out of anything. Online dating studies have shown that finance is the #1 indicator of your success online. Women are more aware of what this s*** really is... Even when I was dating an older woman who had a lot of money, I would tell her "You know, I love you, but... I love the money more." and she appreciated that, because she knew I was not lying to her. Knew I was not trying to game her... It was what it was.

 

I mean, seriously, come on, if your a hot 26 year old woman, you really think you couldn't fool some old fart into thinking you love him? 

 

They talk about love and all this other nonsense.. Its all about Money and by an extension of Money, habit and convenience. That is what we all want. Something habitually convenient.

[mark clemson]

1 hour ago, CAPSLOCK BANDIT said:

They talk about love and all this other nonsense.. Its all about Money and by an extension of Money, habit and convenience. That is what we all want. Something habitually convenient.

 

I don't think that's actually true. Probably for some folks, maybe a majority (although I have my doubts) and it may become more true as we get older and more wise to "the ways of the world". But I have little doubt there are plenty of folks of both sexes who don't make it a priority. Certainly the small but significant portion of men who insist on homemaker wives (and take the financial risks of divorce) aren't in it for the money. I have little doubt there are women who, depending on where they are in their life and views, don't really worry about the money aspect either.

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

50 minutes ago, mark clemson said:

 

I don't think that's actually true. Probably for some folks, maybe a majority (although I have my doubts) and it may become more true as we get older and more wise to "the ways of the world". But I have little doubt there are plenty of folks of both sexes who don't make it a priority. Certainly the small but significant portion of men who insist on homemaker wives (and take the financial risks of divorce) aren't in it for the money. I have little doubt there are women who, depending on where they are in their life and views, don't really worry about the money aspect either.

 

Financial well-being is the most important part of relationships. This is an established finding, throughout hundreds of professionally conducted studies, whether it be offline or online, marriage or relationship, man or woman, financial well being is the biggest part of any persons life.

 

In addition, there is no findings to even remotely suggest that a woman would find a man an attractive life partner who possess an unfavorable financial situation. Sure, other factors may weigh into that equation and per perspective, those factors might be worth more or less, but history and social sciences have pretty much proven without a doubt that the biggest factor in relationships between men and women is social status. Social status comes from a multitude of things, but predominately today, it comes from having lots of money.

Edited December 11, 2019 by CAPSLOCK BANDIT
In addition...

[mark clemson]

Well, I'm not up on many sociological studies, but I will take your word for it. As you point out, social status comes from a multitude of things. If your point is there's a general (even strong) trend among women to prefer economically well-situated men, I wouldn't argue against that as I believe it too. Not at all so sure about men, particularly men in their prime, but I'm not about to spend hours doing internet research to prove a point.

 

In your earlier post, specifically the quote, you seemed to be implying a blanket statement that every man and woman on the planet, without exception, only care about money romantically and make that the focus of their relationships. That I don't agree with.

 

12 hours ago, CAPSLOCK BANDIT said:

They talk about love and all this other nonsense.. Its all about Money and by an extension of Money, habit and convenience. That is what we all want. Something habitually convenient.

[Els]

19 hours ago, CAPSLOCK BANDIT said:

Men can reproduce naturally at very old ages: An Indian man once impregnated a woman when he was 94 years old.

 

This actually comes with a ton of risks, even if you're technically able to do it. Frankly I don't know how anyone can in good conscience reproduce when you KNOW that you are going to die before your child hits puberty, and that you have a good chance of causing genetic disorders. Incredibly irresponsible.

 

But, yes, the viable reproductive ages of men and women are different, especially when we talk about slightly more reasonable ages like 50 instead of 94. As you said, this can be a good or bad thing. If you don't actually want to reproduce, a shorter viable period is preferable - a 50 yo woman can pretty much rely on her own natural body for contraception, but a 50 yo man would need a vasectomy or condoms if he wants to be sure of the same outcome.

 

As for money being the most important part of relationships? Haha, speak for yourself. It's important, but hardly THE most important. I've never understood how anyone can feel happy about a relationship where the other person is solely with them for money, but different strokes for different folks I suppose.

[elaine567]

There is more and more research showing that older men fathering children is not the risk free situation that was thought previously.
Risk both for the mother of the child and the child itself.
The optimal age for fatherhood is before 35, after that the risks increase.

 

Edited December 11, 2019 by elaine567

[Pleasant-Sage]

I'm a little late to the party but I don't know why anyone older would want to hook up with someone super young unless it's just for a little short lived fun and excitement. 

 

When I was 18, I had a very short fling with a 40 yr old. The sex was a lot of fun for both of us. I ended up moving away which is what brought it to an end.  Looking back, I wasn't mature enough for her in more ways than one. 

 

So, I couldn't see why she would of wanted a relationship with me if it had ever got to that point. 

 

As an adult, there's no way you could convince me that hooking up with someone under the age of 21 would be a good idea. 

 

If I was single (I'm in my 30s) and looking for a relationship, I'd probably go after an older woman because they are more likely to have all or at least more of the characteristics I would be looking for in a companion.

 

 

Edited December 12, 2019 by Pleasant-Sage

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

2 hours ago, Elswyth said:

 

As for money being the most important part of relationships? Haha, speak for yourself. It's important, but hardly THE most important. I've never understood how anyone can feel happy about a relationship where the other person is solely with them for money, but different strokes for different folks I suppose.

 

Actually, most people want to be with somebody that has a similar income to them, which is understandable. Sure, some people like having lots of money available, I mean, why wouldn't you, but being able to share the same life style choices is important: If your partner is flying out to a different country to vacation every 6 months and you are not able to do so, it creates friction in the relationship over time.

 

Getting into a relationship is easy, anybody can do that, but keeping the relationship going is where the money takes precedence over everything else. Financial viability and health, unless you live on the woods and don't use the internet, is necessary for survival today. Money buys us all of the basic essentials, without those, there is no relationship.

 

 

[mark clemson]

9 minutes ago, CAPSLOCK BANDIT said:

 

Actually, most people want to be with somebody that has a similar income to them, which is understandable.

 

This sounds plausible, but is it an opinion or a fact? Has someone surveyed "most" people (or done a statistically valid extrapolation) or how do you know this? Does it apply to countries like Afghanistan, Kenya, Indonesia, Japan?

Edited December 12, 2019 by mark clemson

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

17 minutes ago, mark clemson said:

 

This sounds plausible, but is it an opinion or a fact? Has someone surveyed "most" people (or done a statistically valid extrapolation) or how do you know this? Does it apply to countries like Afghanistan, Kenya, Indonesia, Japan?

 

Look up Vulnerability-Stress-Adaptation on google if you are interested in learning how income affects relationships and why households with higher incomes on average perform exceedingly better than households without.

[K.K.]

I’ve been skipping this post because I really couldn’t decide which one would be better. 

 

At first I thought that it would be better to be a man simply and mainly because of the childbirth thing. That seems like a horrendous thing to go through and men don’t have to do it. 

 

But men, wow they have a lot on their plates. They’re supposed to be strong and provide and keep women safe. That has to be a lot of pressure. Plus they’re expected to be manly and hide their soft side. That doesn’t sound fun. They have sexual needs that are far more of a ‘need’ than women. Yes, women can love sex and say they need sex and all. But without sounding too uhh, men need to ejaculate. It’s like they’re controlled by their penis whether they want to be or not and that doesn’t sound cool at all!! 

 

Men are always expected to make the moves and be the leader. Men have to be ready to fight and protect at all times. 

 

Women can cry outright. Women can be delicate. Women can lean on man when she needs protection. Women can get away with a whole lot more crap than a man can. 

 

Men don’t get to get off the sinking ship. Women and children first! 

 

Just sounds like a lot of pressure. 

 

I know in today’s world that gender roles are sometimes blurred. But all in all, men are expected to be the ‘man’. And that makes me glad to be a woman. Not that we don’t have our own strengths but it’s bound to be harder to be a man. 

 

The end. 

[BC1980]

There are advantages and disadvantages to being a man or a woman, and age is rarely kind to any of us. In general, I do think that women have a faster expiration date than men, but it's certainly not normal for a 20 something woman to date a 60 something man. That's an outlier for sure. 

Edited December 12, 2019 by BC1980

[mark clemson]

2 hours ago, CAPSLOCK BANDIT said:

 

Look up Vulnerability-Stress-Adaptation on google if you are interested in learning how income affects relationships and why households with higher incomes on average perform exceedingly better than households without.

 

Hmm. I could do that, but it seems tangential to the question of whether your assertion that:  "Actually, most people want to be with somebody that has a similar income to them, which is understandable. " is actually true or just a view and how you know it's actually a fact (or not) or whether if it is a fact it applies across all cultures.  Not to be mean, but you don't seem to be actually addressing my question?  

 

It's certainly not a shock to me that higher income households do better on a variety of metrics (I assume) than lower income households.

 

But does this mean that, e.g. men in the 20's are looking for women with a similar income to themselves? Maybe - I've always been ok if my wife made less than me, but that's me. I believe that many men feel similarly, but I certainly wouldn't assume that's all men, just some reasonable segment of them, projecting from my own views and what I know of my friends and neighbors' choices.

 

If you don't have an answer or aren't sure, that's certainly forgivable, I was just wondering. You'll have to forgive me, but I have a tendency to challenge blanket statements. That doesn't mean you're wrong - I don't actually know the answer.

[Els]

5 hours ago, K.K. said:

They have sexual needs that are far more of a ‘need’ than women. Yes, women can love sex and say they need sex and all. But without sounding too uhh, men need to ejaculate. It’s like they’re controlled by their penis whether they want to be or not and that doesn’t sound cool at all!!

 

I agree with the rest of your post, but I assure you that orgasm is a NEED for some of us women as well. Same thing with men, the orgasm is the need, ejaculation is just something that accompanies it.

[Els]

On 12/12/2019 at 1:58 PM, mark clemson said:

 

Hmm. I could do that, but it seems tangential to the question of whether your assertion that:  "Actually, most people want to be with somebody that has a similar income to them, which is understandable. "

 

 

My experience has been that their spouse's income tends to matter less to hetero men than to hetero women. Many men do still want a wife who works and/or who is similarly educated, sure, but IMO many of them (not all, of course) don't care if she earns substantially less than them. H is one of those - it matters to him that I have the capability to work so we can still have my income if everything goes to s***, but aside from that, it doesn't matter to him how much I earn. Whereas most of the women I've known absolutely did care about their husband's income - and even the income of other people's husbands (it's just bizarre to me how many people ask me that). It's one of the aspects of life that is more difficult for hetero men, in my opinion (not sure how it works out in homosexual Rs).

 

In general, I personally think that while men have some things "easier" and vice versa for women, it's pretty sweet to be a woman in a Western country, especially if you don't want to reproduce. I, for one, love it! If you DO want to reproduce, or if you live in a non-Western country, there will be additional difficulties as a woman, but in 100 years' time I strongly believe that even those will disappear.

 

Edited December 13, 2019 by Elswyth