Woman offers a man $1.5 millon to father a child

[irregular guy]

Recently a friend of mind who is married with 2 kids, was offered $1.5 million to father a child. He turned it down, and threw away the information, and didn't mention it to me until 3 years later. I probably also would have turned it down initially, but later on, I got to thinking about it.

Children are very precious. Sure, she could go to a sperm bank, but they would have information only on what physical traits a guy has, not whether or not he has a good soul or is a kind and loving and intelligent person. They would have info on if he is "intelligent" as in, Big Bang (show) intelligence. That show, where the guys have super high IQ, but are barely smart enough to screw in a light bulb! Anyway, I would imagine she probably wants more than that he just fathers a child, but even so... She probably wants a husband or some modern version of it.

I've been happily married for 20 years, with 2 good kids, and now that I've thought about it, I'd take the offer. Risky, yes, but... I have a plan to end poverty and save mankind from certain destruction. I am very confident it will work, if I can just get a little money and time. With that much money, I'd probably be able to do just that. Currently, I work full time, leaving almost zero time to work on this goal, so in twenty years I've accomplished next to nothing on this goal. With that much money, I'd reserve 5 to 10 years income at my current salary, use a third to try to start several income producing businesses (which would also be used to end poverty and save mankind), and the other third on other ending poverty stuff.

For most people, that would not be much money, but when combined with my knowledge of automation and robotics, I could accomplish unbelievable things. For example, I could make autonomous solar cargo ships, to transport high value "trash" from wealthy nations to poor nations, where it would be used to end poverty. For example, old computers, cell phones, monitors, and other electronics with useful things such as solar panels and certain microchips. This would cost a lot of money to get started, but once started it could provide computers to the poor at extremely low costs. Shipping would cost nothing (autonomous solar cargo ships), so it would just be labor, most of which would be done by the extremely poor people who would be benefiting from it.

So for me, what I can accomplish with the money, would make it something I'd feel required to do. The choices are, my family or saving mankind. Which is more important?  If you really believe that mankind is on the verge of extinction and needs to be saved, as I do, than mankind becomes more important, right? Would you choose your family over saving mankind? 

I would divorce my wife, if necessary (if the woman wanted to marry me). I would keep supporting her and the kids though. I even asked my friend for her information, told him that I would gladly take the offer. I would like to find a woman like that!

My friend thinks it would be a sin, but I don't think it is. I think what is important to God, is that we have our priorities straight. I believe that love is a matter of priorities. When you put yourself as your priority, than you love yourself. When you put your mate as your priority, than you love your mate. When you put God as your priority, than you love God.

There are certain things, that must come before your mate, and before your family and yourself. That is what being a good person is all about. Knowing what to have as first priority, and what comes second and third, etc.

I know most people, probably just about everyone, would be afraid to take such an offer, if it meant a lifetime commitment. Not me though. Maybe just a little, but not much. The secret to a lasting relationship, is all in the assumed value of it. If you think a relationship is worth $1.5 million, than you will work at it, and that will make it last. Just as my friend was unwilling to take the offer, because he might loose his wife and kids... He valued the relationship he had at more than $1.5 million, so he has lasting marriage. I also value my marriage at more than $1.5 million, however, I value saving mankind much much more than that! Seriously, if I had a billion dollars, I'd spend it on saving mankind. I don't think I could put that much value on my family though.

I know that seems strange. I would have to think though, how many people can be helped with that kind of money, and... I just don't think it would be right to put my family that far beyond the needs of others.

[schlumpy]

All the trillions of dollars that have gone down the rat hole of eliminating poverty since the Johnson Administration but you are going to save mankind with just a million and half minus taxes?

Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Tell me more.

 

[Els]

LOL,

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For most people, that would not be much money, but when combined with my knowledge of automation and robotics, I could accomplish unbelievable things. For example, I could make autonomous solar cargo ships

For the price of a decent house in an expensive city? Eureka! Why aren't you pitching this idea to Elon Musk already? 🤣

More to the point, who the f*** pays $1.5m for a sperm donation? Sperm is far cheaper than eggs, and I'm willing to bet you $1000 that a "donation" of that very amount would more than suffice to motivate the majority of single men to cum in a cup. For a bit more than that, she could even hold a competition and pick her favourite man from hundreds.

Edited January 13, 2020 by Elswyth

[Super Phantom]

I would ask how does she prefer the semen delivered

[Woggle]

I would never father a kid that I would have no role in raising. If I am going to reproduce I will have be a full time parent.

[Miss Spider]

#whatdidijustread

[The Outlaw]

$1.5 million to father a child? That takes it to a WHOLE new level. 

[mark clemson]

Your bud was married and his family was more important to him than the money. Makes sense to me.

I am NOT recommending this, but if you want to divorce your wife and marry some other woman, for whatever reasons, that's generally your business unless you live in a state with a lot of conditions set around divorcing. IF you were serious (and the offer were made to you) you could discuss with an attorney. Your kids, however, would probably not be very understanding of the motivations for your sudden 50%+ absence in their lives, so I suggest you factor that in.

Again I'm NOT recommending you do anything to change your current situation. Being content and having the love of your family can be worth more than money sometimes.

[central]

Be a sperm donor, OR be a sperm donor AND a father? If the former, perhaps, with some caveats. If the latter, not something I'd want to do (again). However, if I did it, I'd retain a lawyer to ensure there were no unintended consequences (e.g., in some places, artificial insemination via a licensed clinic carries no future responsibility from the donor, but if done "naturally" the man could be liable for child support). If married, I'd discuss it with my wife before deciding (I think she'd be fine with the sperm donor scenario only).

[Poutrew]

1.5 million? Bah! Mere chicken scratchings, I tell you.  It would not be unreasonable for aggressive women to get into a bidding war for my sperm... and all because they think I look like my profile pic... 🤪

[Els]

9 hours ago, Poutrew said:

1.5 million? Bah! Mere chicken scratchings, I tell you.  It would not be unreasonable for aggressive women to get into a bidding war for my sperm... and all because they think I look like my profile pic... 🤪

For that hunk, I'd go 2 million...

[irregular guy]

On 1/13/2020 at 7:46 PM, schlumpy said:

All the trillions of dollars that have gone down the rat hole of eliminating poverty since the Johnson Administration but you are going to save mankind with just a million and half minus taxes?

Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Tell me more.

Solving any problem, without knowing exactly what is wrong, also takes huge amounts of money, time or resources and accomplishes nothing. So the fact that the government failed, is meaningless. Governments never do anything right, nor do they do anything cheap. All the problems of the world are solved by regular people. Governments only make problems, they don't solve them.

[irregular guy]

On 1/13/2020 at 7:54 PM, Elswyth said:

LOL,

For the price of a decent house in an expensive city? Eureka! Why aren't you pitching this idea to Elon Musk already? 🤣

More to the point, who the f*** pays $1.5m for a sperm donation? Sperm is far cheaper than eggs, and I'm willing to bet you $1000 that a "donation" of that very amount would more than suffice to motivate the majority of single men to cum in a cup. For a bit more than that, she could even hold a competition and pick her favourite man from hundreds.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to contact Elon Musk, and actually get him to take the time to listen? Also, no one ever likes a new idea. Every real inventor knows this. When an idea is new, less than 1% of the people like the idea. It takes a lot of promotion to get people to start to accept it. Even with a working gadget, it takes a lot of promotion to get people to start to take interest in it.
 

As for sperm, she obviously doesn't want just sperm. She wants a decent man to father her child, so that her child will be a decent human being. I don't know how much it matters, I don't know if anyone really knows, but she thinks it is important. It is more important to place value in the child. The money is nothing but paper, in reality money has zero actual value. So to want to use that worthless paper to try to create a better human being, is not stupid.

[irregular guy]

17 hours ago, mark clemson said:

Your bud was married and his family was more important to him than the money. Makes sense to me.

I am NOT recommending this, but if you want to divorce your wife and marry some other woman, for whatever reasons, that's generally your business unless you live in a state with a lot of conditions set around divorcing. IF you were serious (and the offer were made to you) you could discuss with an attorney. Your kids, however, would probably not be very understanding of the motivations for your sudden 50%+ absence in their lives, so I suggest you factor that in.

Again I'm NOT recommending you do anything to change your current situation. Being content and having the love of your family can be worth more than money sometimes.

I understand what you are saying, but you are thinking from a standpoint of not believing that my plan will save mankind. Consider this: If there was a war, and the enemy was approaching your home, and your family was trapped and could not escape... You have to protect your home. Would you not leave your family, and risk your life to save your family? Your family may not understand that decision either, but would that change your decision? This is basically the same situation. It is life or death.

It all comes down to whether or not you believe that the plan will save mankind. From my point of view, I believe in my plan. I am sure of my thinking.

I don't want to divorce my wife, but for the sake of saving mankind, that is a very easy decision to make. I choose to save mankind, at all costs!

[Els]

5 minutes ago, irregular guy said:

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to contact Elon Musk, and actually get him to take the time to listen? Also, no one ever likes a new idea. Every real inventor knows this. When an idea is new, less than 1% of the people like the idea. It takes a lot of promotion to get people to start to accept it. Even with a working gadget, it takes a lot of promotion to get people to start to take interest in it.

If your idea was that great and you felt that strongly about it, you would be trying anyway. If you haven't, clearly it's just a pipe dream.

Not to mention that anyone who does value money and is actually competent at robotics/automation (hardware? software?) , would easily be able to earn $1.5m in less than a decade. So go forth and save mankind...

[irregular guy]

17 hours ago, central said:

Be a sperm donor, OR be a sperm donor AND a father? If the former, perhaps, with some caveats. If the latter, not something I'd want to do (again). However, if I did it, I'd retain a lawyer to ensure there were no unintended consequences (e.g., in some places, artificial insemination via a licensed clinic carries no future responsibility from the donor, but if done "naturally" the man could be liable for child support). If married, I'd discuss it with my wife before deciding (I think she'd be fine with the sperm donor scenario only).

My guess, is she probably wants a father and lover for life, but for the sake of saving mankind, I don't care what she wants. I am committed to saving mankind at all costs! Whatever I have to do, I'm there!

If a woman makes me such an offer, I'll definitely discuss it with my wife and kids, but my mind is already made up. I can not put anything before saving mankind. That is like putting something before God. It is important to have correct priorities in life. Something are more important than others.

[irregular guy]

7 minutes ago, Elswyth said:

If your idea was that great and you felt that strongly about it, you would be trying anyway. If you haven't, clearly it's just a pipe dream.

Not to mention that anyone who does value money and is actually competent at robotics/automation (hardware? software?) , would easily be able to earn $1.5m in less than a decade. So go forth and save mankind...

I have been trying for 20 years. You seem to think that trying, means automatic success. Trying without resources to start with, usually means failure, no matter how hare you try. It takes money to make money.

Yes, I have extreme skills in robotics and automation, however, I very seriously lack the one skill which is most important to making money. That is sales ability. I am an extremely bad salesman. This also means that I have extreme difficulty even getting a job, and usually have to work at something far below my skill level, because I need to have income to feed my family.

There are a whole lot of highly skilled people who are homeless. I prefer not to be one of them.

Everything is "a pipe dream" until one has the money to make it happen.

[RecentChange]

So what are you doing today to save mankind? How do you prove daily it's your top priority?

Personally - I am not at all driven to save mankind. Not in the slightest.

I try to make a positive impact on those around me in feasible ways - but say mankind? Naaaaw, the planet is better off without us. 

So, if someone offers you a huge amount of money to commit a crime - do you do it? Because you will use that money to save mankind?

What if you were asked to hurt a loved one?

What exactly are you willing to do in order to save mankind, and what are you doing today?

Honestly your thoughts on this are completely bizarre to me, but I am curious to see how you rationalize this. 

[Els]

5 minutes ago, irregular guy said:

Yes, I have extreme skills in robotics and automation, however, I very seriously lack the one skill which is most important to making money. That is sales ability. I am an extremely bad salesman. This also means that I have extreme difficulty even getting a job, and usually have to work at something far below my skill level, because I need to have income to feed my family.

🤣 Sure, man, whatever you say....

The vast majority of well-paid programmers and engineers are not anywhere near "good salespeople".

[sothereiwas]

8 minutes ago, Elswyth said:

🤣 Sure, man, whatever you say....

The vast majority of well-paid programmers and engineers are not anywhere near "good salespeople".

This is fact.

It takes a Jobs and a Wos to make an Apple most of the time. 

[schlumpy]

1 hour ago, irregular guy said:

Solving any problem, without knowing exactly what is wrong, also takes huge amounts of money, time or resources and accomplishes nothing. So the fact that the government failed, is meaningless. Governments never do anything right, nor do they do anything cheap. All the problems of the world are solved by regular people. Governments only make problems, they don't solve them.

I actually agree with you. In my experience it's been the personal initiative of the individual that has saved the day. 

[basil67]

2 hours ago, irregular guy said:

If a woman makes me such an offer, I'll definitely discuss it with my wife and kids, but my mind is already made up. I can not put anything before saving mankind. That is like putting something before God. It is important to have correct priorities in life. Something are more important than others.

Mate, I think you're highly gullible and you mate is having a lend of you with this story about being offered $1.5mill for his sperm.   I'm pretty gullible too, but even I can see that this is a tall story.

No woman is going to offer you $1.5mill for your sperm.  End of story.   So forget the fantasy and go back to reality.

[Miss Spider]

Yeah. I agree with Basil67. While you do bring forth interesting argument for utilitarianism, I think we should not forget the premise is complete wack. Your friend was never offered that much for his sperm and you won’t be either. Toodles 

Edited January 14, 2020 by Cookiesandough

[irregular guy]

11 hours ago, Elswyth said:

🤣 Sure, man, whatever you say....

The vast majority of well-paid programmers and engineers are not anywhere near "good salespeople".

And the vast majority of them, don't make enough to support a family. That is why most families have both parents working, and still there are a whole lot of people who do not own homes.

[irregular guy]

12 hours ago, RecentChange said:

So what are you doing today to save mankind? How do you prove daily it's your top priority?

Personally - I am not at all driven to save mankind. Not in the slightest.

I try to make a positive impact on those around me in feasible ways - but say mankind? Naaaaw, the planet is better off without us. 

So, if someone offers you a huge amount of money to commit a crime - do you do it? Because you will use that money to save mankind?

What if you were asked to hurt a loved one?

What exactly are you willing to do in order to save mankind, and what are you doing today?

Honestly your thoughts on this are completely bizarre to me, but I am curious to see how you rationalize this. 

I've considered crime, but it is not as easy as you might think. It takes serious preparation, and a team, and usually a bit of investment. Non of which I have. Also, there is a high risk of getting caught. From a moral stand point though, I'd have no problem with it.

True love, is in valuing all people equally. This is what Jesus was saying, when he said to "love your neighbor as yourself". Jesus also said, “if you will not leave your family, you can not be my follower” (Luke 14:26). If God does not come first in your heart, you are not following Jesus. If the needs of mankind and the Earth, are not your absolute first priority, than you are not following Jesus. 

From a genetic standpoint, we are all virtually identical. Our genetic differences are not worth mentioning. So why should I value the life of my own child, 1,000,000,000 times higher than the life of another? Or my own life? If there was a situation where it became necessary for me to kill myself, my family, and everyone I know, to save mankind, I would do it. I can't imagine how such a situation could ever happen, other than maybe if there was an extremely dangerous virus just got released, and in some totally strange coincidence I just happened to have a nuclear bomb in my garage, and everyone I know just happened to be in range. In that situation, my only real fear would be that I might end up destroying the antivirus and mankind's only hope of survival, if the bomb didn't work.

If Heaven exists, and it is full of people who value themselves 1,000,000,000 times higher than you, would you want to go there? My version of Heaven, is a place where everyone values you as high as they value their own life and the lives of their children. Where everyone truly cares about you. To spend even one year in such a place, would be better than an eternity in a place full of people who value themselves 1,000,000,000 times higher than you.

I am going to create my version of Heaven, here on Earth. That is how we will end poverty and bring about World Peace.